RE: policy route [7:21044]

2001-09-25 Thread Liang Mark J Civ AFRL/PROI

Standby is stanby, it doesn't do any routing until the active router goes
down.

Regards,

Mark,

-Original Message-
From: Jim Bond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: policy route [7:21044]


Hello,

I have 2 routers running HSRP in a small office. I
want SMTP traffic go through standby router so I
configured policy route on active router that all SMTP
traffic, send to standby router. But it doesn't work.
I'm wondering if policy route will work this way?

At active router:
interface e0
 ip address 10.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
 ip policy route-map SMTP
 standby ip 10.1.1.1
 ...
route-map SMTP permit 10
 match ip address 102
 set ip next-hop 10.1.1.3 !standby router ethernet
...
access-list 102 permit tcp any any eq 25

Thanks in advance.

Jim

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RE: cat5500 [7:18498]

2001-09-04 Thread Liang Mark J Civ AFRL/PROI

I hope you know where your switch is!!!



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Does anyone have about 7 slot covers for a catalyst 5500 that you don't
need?  This may be off topic, but I can't find them anywhere.  Thank you


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RE: VLAN routing [7:13465]

2001-07-26 Thread Liang Mark J Civ AFRL/PROI

Or Connect your switch to an ATM network, map your vlans to elans then MPOA
to router between your elans, that will solve your routing problems. 
BUT MPOA is a virtual router! You need a router!!!

Mark,

-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 1:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: VLAN routing [7:13465]


 Telling people they need a router between them makes people think that
 VLANs have some magical layer three capabilities which leads to the
 above question.  Do people ever ask if you need a router between your
 layer 2 broadcast domains?  No.  Because it used to be obvious.  If you
 want to route, you need a router.  VLANs and the similarly misunderstood
 Layer 3 switch haven't changed that caveat.
 



And the question often is, what problem are you trying to solve by
routing between VLANs?  There certainly are reasons, in a campus
environment, to bridge between VLANs with a L2 switch, such as the
VLAN users in one or more buildings and the servers for that VLAN in
a separate central computer room.

What are you guys talking about with this bridging between VLANs? Are you 
talking about, for example, a Cisco router configured to do bridging? Or 
are you talking about doing this, for example, on Cisco switches? If you 
have implemented VLANs how do you bridge between them on a switch? Why 
don't you just combine them into one VLAN?

Sorry, if I'm being dense. I'm just trying to learn.

Priscilla


 
Can I have multiple subnets on the same VLAN?
 
 Yes, but they won't communicate without a router. A station trying to
 communicate with a station in a different subnet ARPs for its default
 gateway. Sure there are exceptions with strangely behaving IP stacks
 and
 errors with subnet mask configurations, etc., but let's consider the
 typical case.
 
 This is my point.  To route, you need a router.  VLANs haven't changed
 this whatsoever.
 
 I simply find that too  many people misunderstand the VLAN concept
 simply because vendor marketing has confused the issue and numerous
 pieces of literature make the layer 3 to VLAN binding without properly
 developing the difference.
 
 Nit picky I know, but its a pet peeve.
 
 Pete

I personally regard VLANs, first and foremost, as a means of
multiplexing a LAN.


Priscilla Oppenheimer
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RE: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805]

2001-07-23 Thread Liang Mark J Civ AFRL/PROI

You sounded like an engineer want a be and don't have an engineering
degree! What you say is true, engineering degree is just a piece of paper
with out experience, but it is a good start a very good start for someone
without experience. It takes hard work and dedication to get an engineer not
just a few weeks of reading a book from Cisco Press. Don't get me wrong, to
get to the CCIE level also takes a great deal of hard work and dedication
too, but it is minimal compare to getting an engineer degree. 

Just my 2 cents,

mark,

-Original Message-
From: Baker, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 4:49 PM
To: Liang Mark J Civ AFRL/PROI; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805]


A true engineer is a person who knows what to do, and complete it
successfully.

not someone who can tell people they need to complete this or that. I have
seen plenty of so called engineers design software that is utter $%^^% and
too slow
and when given the project to a so called  plain coder he has completed
the project
come out with software that is quick, efficient and how the software should
have been 
designed in the first place.

It adds fuel to the fire. what is valued more a piece of paper from
uni or a person
with real world experience ???  

Why should someone who has a uni paper be called engineer and not someone
who has real world experience
and knows true engineering ?


 -Original Message-
 From: Liang Mark J Civ AFRL/PROI [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, 20 July 2001 9:45 am
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805]
 
 My definition of Software Engineer is someone with an engineering degree
 and
 also does software engineering. A Developer/Coder just write code base on
 the engineering requirements and doesn't require a degree.
 
 my two cents,
 
 mark,
 -Original Message-
 From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 1:17 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805]
 
 
 That's a scary thought: CCIEs who develop protocols. ;-]
 
 I know very few respected protocol or platform designers that ever 
 mentioned having a CCIE.  On the other hand, it only occasionally 
 comes up that one has a PhD, which isn't always in a relevant 
 discipline.  I'm amused by the degree requirement--I could see an 
 argument for a master's or doctorate, but the undergraduate computer 
 science program gets into relatively little you need to know to 
 design and implement protocols, other than as a coder.
 
 Personally, I'm a much better developer than I am a support person. 
 There's overlap between the skills of product/protocol design and 
 large network design, but much less with troubleshooting.
 
 Even quality testing is a somewhat different skill set than 
 troubleshooting.  For example, has anyone seen a Cisco exam that 
 explored the differences among conformance, interoperability, and 
 performance testing?  The difference between a correct but boundary 
 condition event, a syntactically incorrect event, and an inopportune 
 event?
 
 
 They are looking for software engineers. They aren't going to find many
 that have a CCIE? It's a different skill set and requires a different
 type
 of personality.
 
 Priscilla
 
 At 09:41 AM 7/18/01, Ole Drews Jensen wrote:
 Forgive me for sending this here, I know there's a place for job
 discussions, but I noticed that there have been several e-mails about
 how
 CCIE's now have a harder time getting jobs.
 
 I received this e-mail (look at the message included after my signature)
 on
 another Cisco list I'm a member of:
 
 Hth,
 
 Ole
 
 ~~~
Ole Drews Jensen
Systems Network Manager
CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
RWR Enterprises, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ~~~
http://www.OleDrews.com/CCNP
 ~~~
NEED A JOB ???
http://www.oledrews.com/job
 ~~~
 
 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 15:11:26 -
 From: JDO 
 Subject: Looking for a Special Kind of CCIE
 
 Hello,
 
 My name is Johnna Smith and I work for a placement firm in Dallas,
 Texas. I am in desperate need of a CCIE that DEVELOPS routing
 protocols. I need them to have BGP, DSPF, IS-IS, and MPLS. The must
 be a software engineer and they must be degreed.
 
 If any of you could help me, please give me a call or shoot me an
 email at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  or at
 972-991-7569.
 
 Just to take a look at someof our other positions please go to
 
 
 We also work with another agency that focuese more on IT, you can
 find their site at
 
 Thanks
 
   Johnna




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RE: tftp server! [7:13203]

2001-07-23 Thread Liang Mark J Civ AFRL/PROI

WHY?

Mark,

-Original Message-
From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 3:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: tftp server! [7:13203]


The 3Com one is goot... BEWARE OF FILES OVER 16MB with TFTP!!!

Mike W.

Jason Roysdon  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 You just need a tftp server/daemon to run on your PC.  I like 3Com's
 3CDaemon which supports tftp client and server, as well as ftp and syslog,
 but Cisco has there own, and Pumpkin is another popular one.

 http://support.3com.com/software/utilities_for_windows_32_bit.htm

 Their IPCalc is pretty useful as well.

 --
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  hi,
  i'm setting up my lab and want to install the tftp
  server on one PC.I would also want to upgrade my IOS
  image and install the IP feature pack.I reckon,that
  the tftp can be installed on any PC on any OS say
  windows,and that the tftp server would acquire the ip
  address of the PC.Can anyone please give a detailed
  process of the installation and integration in a
  network, plus how to install the ip fearure pack.
  I'ld appreciate any input.
  thanx
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RE: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805]

2001-07-19 Thread Liang Mark J Civ AFRL/PROI

My definition of Software Engineer is someone with an engineering degree and
also does software engineering. A Developer/Coder just write code base on
the engineering requirements and doesn't require a degree.

my two cents,

mark,
-Original Message-
From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 1:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805]


That's a scary thought: CCIEs who develop protocols. ;-]

I know very few respected protocol or platform designers that ever 
mentioned having a CCIE.  On the other hand, it only occasionally 
comes up that one has a PhD, which isn't always in a relevant 
discipline.  I'm amused by the degree requirement--I could see an 
argument for a master's or doctorate, but the undergraduate computer 
science program gets into relatively little you need to know to 
design and implement protocols, other than as a coder.

Personally, I'm a much better developer than I am a support person. 
There's overlap between the skills of product/protocol design and 
large network design, but much less with troubleshooting.

Even quality testing is a somewhat different skill set than 
troubleshooting.  For example, has anyone seen a Cisco exam that 
explored the differences among conformance, interoperability, and 
performance testing?  The difference between a correct but boundary 
condition event, a syntactically incorrect event, and an inopportune 
event?


They are looking for software engineers. They aren't going to find many
that have a CCIE? It's a different skill set and requires a different type
of personality.

Priscilla

At 09:41 AM 7/18/01, Ole Drews Jensen wrote:
Forgive me for sending this here, I know there's a place for job
discussions, but I noticed that there have been several e-mails about how
CCIE's now have a harder time getting jobs.

I received this e-mail (look at the message included after my signature)
on
another Cisco list I'm a member of:

Hth,

Ole

~~~
   Ole Drews Jensen
   Systems Network Manager
   CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
   RWR Enterprises, Inc.
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
~~~
   http://www.OleDrews.com/CCNP
~~~
   NEED A JOB ???
   http://www.oledrews.com/job
~~~

Message: 1
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 15:11:26 -
From: JDO 
Subject: Looking for a Special Kind of CCIE

Hello,

My name is Johnna Smith and I work for a placement firm in Dallas,
Texas. I am in desperate need of a CCIE that DEVELOPS routing
protocols. I need them to have BGP, DSPF, IS-IS, and MPLS. The must
be a software engineer and they must be degreed.

If any of you could help me, please give me a call or shoot me an
email at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  or at
972-991-7569.

Just to take a look at someof our other positions please go to


We also work with another agency that focuese more on IT, you can
find their site at

Thanks

  Johnna




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RE: Alert: HTTP bug makes nearly all Cisco routers vulnerable [7:12489]

2001-07-16 Thread Liang Mark J Civ AFRL/PROI

You could always disable HTTP service on you routers.

mark

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Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 8:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Alert: HTTP bug makes nearly all Cisco routers vulnerable
[7:12487]


This Cisco bug will BITE only if you use local account.  If you use
TACACS for Authentication, Authorization and Accounting (AAA), then you
do NOT to have to worry about this bug.  I've been trying to test it in
the lab without success because I use TACACS.  If anyone think I am
wrong, please contact me and straight me out. 

Sean

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[7:12478] Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:37:54 -0400  Check your MSFC's!!!
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This was a released from TechRepublic on Cisco routers vulnerablity early
  this morning, please do check it out and take necessary precaution.
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RE: ATM interface troubleshooting question. [7:2249]

2001-04-30 Thread Liang Mark J Civ AFRL/PROI

What is the vpi and vci number for the that vc? 0,5 or 0,16 ?If would be
helpful if you could post the config file. 

Mark,


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Katson Yeung) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 6:54 AM
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Subject: ATM interface troubleshooting question. [7:2249]


Dear all,

My old 7507 is having a minor problem it is 12.0.16GD, RSP2 with
64M ram and the ATM card is an AIP. I have only one VC associate with
this ATM port.

I found quite a number of input errors (CRC and Frames)... how can I
know the source of that problem?? Is it the cell level, or the frame
level problem?


See below show interface output:


ATM0/0 is up, line protocol is up 
  Hardware is cxBus ATM
  MTU 4470 bytes, sub MTU 4470, BW 155520 Kbit, DLY 80 usec, rely
255/255, load 8/255
  Encapsulation ATM, loopback not set, keepalive not supported 
  Encapsulation(s): AAL5, PVC mode
  256 TX buffers, 256 RX buffers,
  2048 maximum active VCs, 1024 VCs per VP, 1 current VCCs
  VC idle disconnect time: 300 seconds
  Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never
  Last clearing of show interface counters 3d10h
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 1/75, 40 drops
  5 minute input rate 34782000 bits/sec, 4564 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 5307000 bits/sec, 3372 packets/sec
 1174284787 packets input, 1013959162 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 11 throttles
 13076769 input errors, 13054514 CRC, 22255 frame, 0 overrun, 0
ignored, 0 abort
 893230791 packets output, 346650156 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
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RE: ATM Bit rate [7:2256]

2001-04-30 Thread Liang Mark J Civ AFRL/PROI

UBR,VBR,CBR,AND ABR are atm service categories for QOS. 

regards,

Mark,

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 7:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ATM Bit rate [7:2256]


Guys,
i`m looking for a good explanation of what this is...

i looked on the archives and cisco site,but beleive i am bieng thick .

according to cisco the bit rate comes in various flavours

UBR,VBR,CBRbut am i getting this complete leg-before-arm

i thought the bit rate was a messunment of how fast the link was ???

i don`t get it ...some-one put me out of my misery

thanks

steve :-$
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RE: Beware of VINCENT CHONG [7:1631]

2001-04-23 Thread Liang Mark J Civ AFRL/PROI

RamG,

Thanks for the warning.

Please be rational, not all Chinese behave like that. 

Mark,

-Original Message-
From: RamG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 11:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Beware of VINCENT CHONG [7:1631]


Hello Gang

Just want to keep you all informed on the board not to deal in any form of
TRADE {CCIE Material }or BUYING accessories from VINCENT CHONG.  I had a bad
experience today.  We had entered into an agreement to trade CCIE materials.
I sent him soft copy of my materials and requested him to make hard copy of
his material.  The price for hard copy of his material was mutually agreed
at USD.22.  I sincerely sent him the money through pay pal. To my surprise
he has declined accepting the money and is not interested to send the
material.  Like a KID he sent me this reply  Quote I will send back your
material and I do not want to trade anymore. I will removed from my hard
disk. Is this the way CHINESE behave.  Surprised.

This is not a complaint.  Beware of this GUY - VINCENT CHONG.


Thanks  /  RamG
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RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX

2001-04-03 Thread Liang Mark J Civ AFRL/PROI

The CCNA is far harder than any test one will encounter with a major??? What
are you be smoking? You are wrong wrong wrong. A degree is far more valuable
than a vender specific certification. 



-Original Message-
From: B J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 8:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX 


  The CCNA is far harder than any test one will encounter with a major  in  
Education, Anthropology, History, Business Management, etc.  Do you really 
think the dumbest CCNA isn't more knowledgable in many areas, one being 
math, than your daughters first grade teacher?
  Bottom line:  Remember this: As long as HR employees are hired because 
they are great looking babes, they will have no clue on talent.  Certs give 
them something tangible and simple that they can understand. Degrees do the 
same.
  A couple more points:  I hear people say that certifications are expensive

you best study hard before paying.  They are not.  Take them 3 or 4 times 
each, pay your $300 or $400 and enjoy your huge $5000+ raise and job 
security.  Don't postpone it. People a class in Art Appreciation at a 
"quality university" is going to run you $300 to $400 and is worthless by 
their own admission.  You need the whole degree.
  ...and yes.  CCIE's will triple.  There were no books.  Now there are.  
Books make tests easy.  That is what make Juniper's test so hard now.  You 
can't read the 12 to 15 they have listed as easily as you can one Sybex book

that is designed around the exam.
   Finally, if you are very knowledgeable and dislike "paper certs". Please 
put out a book that gets paper people up to par.  Something to read after 
the exam and before your first interview.  I think it would be very helpful 
to many, who have a desire but lack an entire network at home. Plus, if you 
think people are gaining an edge on you because of certs.  You'll be 
"Published".  That puts you in the upper-diety range.  You can live a 
lifetime on that.




- Original Message -
From: "Scott Baron" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 9:40 AM
Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply


Has anyone noticed that people arguing the most that certs dont matter are
the ones that haven't 'bothered' to get them.

I know that isn't true for everyone... so don't flame me but... see where
generalities get you!  How shortsited can you be to simply make a blanket
statement... certs don't prove anything... geez.

Scott M. Baron
CCNP, CCDP, MCP, CNA

-Original Message-
From: Greg Macaulay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 9:30 AM
To: The.Rock; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply


"certs don't prove anything" ??? I'm not sure that I can agree with that
statement. Certs IMHO represent an interest by the individual in the
subject
matter, and a determined effort to undertake studies necessary to become
more knowledgeable.

Certainly, obtaining a cert. does not make one a guru.  But it usually
(albeit not all the time) indicates a person who has shown some
willingness
to learn.  I view the knowledge I gained by studying for my certs as a
foundation to be built upon over the coming years. Perhaps I have only a
passing or introductory knowledge of some subjects at this juncture -- but
I
assume -- and I certainly hope that as every year passes, I will build
upon
that foundation knowledge and at some point I will undergo a slow, but
steady metamorphosis into a guru of sorts!  But at this juncture with my
certs, I would certainly agree that I have just enough knowledge to be
dangerous! smile

I would compare the cert study to obtaining academic and professional
degrees.  Certainly upon graduation, grads are not experts in any area,
but
they possess the fundamentals upon which to build.  A lawyer, for example,
may indeed represent any survivors of a plane crash is his/her back yard
on
the day he/she is admitted to the Bar, but law school graduation and
passing
a Bar Examination DOES NOT indicate an expertise -- but it does indicate
the
individual has the foundational knowledge and the potential to become an
expert at some point in the future.  I would submit that the same goes for
physicians, accountants, architects, etc.

I think that the real problem is how these certs. have been marketed.
Instead of promising IMMEDIATE big bucks, the certs, should be an entry
ticket into this career.  Individuals who possess these certs should be
respected for the time, effort and interest they have shown in studying
for
and obtaining a cert.  But whether they are PAPER CERTS is truly a
mischaracterization.  As I put forth above, every academic or professional
degree is indeed initially a paper cert -- but with potential.  IT folks
who
obtain these certs by and large have the potential to succeed.  Just as
there are bright, average and incompetent lawyers, doctors and 

RE: banner problem

2001-03-27 Thread Liang Mark J Civ AFRL/PROI

Older version of the IOS only display 265 characters of the banner! Per
Cisco you need to upgrade to a newer version!

Good luck!


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RE: CCNA Pass Mark

2001-03-20 Thread Liang Mark J Civ AFRL/PROI

No anymore! It is 65 questions, 849 to pass.

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65 questions, 822 to pass
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Subject: CCNA Pass Mark


 Hi All,

 I have read 2 conflicting reports on the number of questions and passing =
 mark for CCNA 2.0, one from Examcram while another from Que.

 Could someone tell me the ACTUAL number of questions,time frame given =
 and passing mark?

 TIA

 Tan

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RE: CCNA Pass Mark

2001-03-20 Thread Liang Mark J Civ AFRL/PROI

The time is 75 minutes,

Mark,

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I can verify the same, 849 to pass, 65 questions, I believe the time is 90
minutes. Tough exam, but passed with a 881.

Brad Shifflett
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849 to pass is correct. I took the test a little over a week ago and 849 is
passing according to the Score Report that prints out.

Dan Kline

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 No anymore! It is 65 questions, 849 to pass.

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 65 questions, 822 to pass
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 From: "Tuan Heng" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 12:04 AM
 Subject: CCNA Pass Mark


  Hi All,
 
  I have read 2 conflicting reports on the number of questions and passing
=
  mark for CCNA 2.0, one from Examcram while another from Que.
 
  Could someone tell me the ACTUAL number of questions,time frame given =
  and passing mark?
 
  TIA
 
  Tan
 
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