RE:UNIX NT BEATING A DEAD OS [7:7063]
I wish I had thought of it... :-) Anyway, can we PLEASE end this now? We ALL have our own opinions, and as is was stated several times, there is no one OS that can do it all Just like anything else. I think what we should be more concerned with is how we can all unite and keep this exceptional industry going, so we can continue to earn a decent living and be able to afford to have groups like this (THANKS PAUL). Otherwise instead of asking UNIX or NT, we will be asking PAPER or PLASTIC ?!?!?! Carl. -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:37 AM To: MIRSKY Carl; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6820] that was awesome Thank You, Don Johnson - Original Message - From: MIRSKY Carl To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:12 PM Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6820] Soapbox on: I think this says it all and that's all's I know. (Courtesy of your friends at Brainbuzz.com) http://cramsession.brainbuzz.com/video/everyossucks/default.asp?OSsucks=Open Soapbox Off: Put yer seat belt on, I wanna try somethin'. I saw it in a cartoon once and I'm pretty sure it'll work ! , /'^ ^'\ ((o)-(o)) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo- Carl Mirsky CCNP,CCDP,MCSE,SCSA, Technical Solutions Architect Covansys ( www.covansys.com ) 1750 E. Golf Rd. #1100 Schaumburg, IL 60173 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 847-969-3054 .oooO ( ) Oooo. -\ (---( )--- \_) ) / (_/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=7063t=7063 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: It group study worth it or not!!!??? [7:6837]
Q. What is your favorite color? A. Blue... NO RED. AG! (Courtesy of Monty Python and the Holy Grail) -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 8:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: It group study worth it or not!!!??? [7:6837] what is the question - Original Message - From: Mike Peterson To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 3:50 PM Subject: It group study worth it or not!!!??? [7:6837] Hi All, A while back I posted some questions but I haven't got any answers back from no one whomake me think that ether nobody have an answer or the oposite ...no one wants to share the knowledge between us.I would like to find out what do you guys think about this total silence.Thanks a lot for your thoughts. Mike Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=7065t=6837 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RE:UNIX NT BEATING A DEAD OS [7:7063]
You want Fries with that? -Original Message- From: Me [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE:UNIX NT BEATING A DEAD OS [7:7063] Actually it's for here or to go, Sir ;-) MIRSKY Carl wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I wish I had thought of it... :-) Anyway, can we PLEASE end this now? We ALL have our own opinions, and as is was stated several times, there is no one OS that can do it all Just like anything else. I think what we should be more concerned with is how we can all unite and keep this exceptional industry going, so we can continue to earn a decent living and be able to afford to have groups like this (THANKS PAUL). Otherwise instead of asking UNIX or NT, we will be asking PAPER or PLASTIC ?!?!?! Carl. -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:37 AM To: MIRSKY Carl; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6820] that was awesome Thank You, Don Johnson - Original Message - From: MIRSKY Carl To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:12 PM Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6820] Soapbox on: I think this says it all and that's all's I know. (Courtesy of your friends at Brainbuzz.com) http://cramsession.brainbuzz.com/video/everyossucks/default.asp?OSsucks=Open Soapbox Off: Put yer seat belt on, I wanna try somethin'. I saw it in a cartoon once and I'm pretty sure it'll work ! , /'^ ^'\ ((o)-(o)) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo- Carl Mirsky CCNP,CCDP,MCSE,SCSA, Technical Solutions Architect Covansys ( www.covansys.com ) 1750 E. Golf Rd. #1100 Schaumburg, IL 60173 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 847-969-3054 .oooO ( ) Oooo. -\ (---( )--- \_) ) / (_/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=7066t=7063 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Book club [7:6811]
A while back there was information posed on a book club where you could get several CCIE books for like $10 and then only have to buy X books afterwards. Does anyone have the name or URL for this? Thanks Put yer seat belt on, I wanna try somethin'. I saw it in a cartoon once and I'm pretty sure it'll work ! , /'^ ^'\ ((o)-(o)) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo- Carl Mirsky CCNP, CCDP, SCSA, MCSE Technical Solutions Architect Covansys ( www.covansys.com ) 1750 E. Golf Rd. #1100 Schaumburg, IL 60173 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 847-969-3054 .oooO ( ) Oooo. -\ (---( )--- \_) ) / (_/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6811t=6811 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6820]
Soapbox on: I think this says it all and that's all's I know. (Courtesy of your friends at Brainbuzz.com) http://cramsession.brainbuzz.com/video/everyossucks/default.asp?OSsucks=Open Soapbox Off: Put yer seat belt on, I wanna try somethin'. I saw it in a cartoon once and I'm pretty sure it'll work ! , /'^ ^'\ ((o)-(o)) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo- Carl Mirsky CCNP,CCDP,MCSE,SCSA, Technical Solutions Architect Covansys ( www.covansys.com ) 1750 E. Golf Rd. #1100 Schaumburg, IL 60173 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 847-969-3054 .oooO ( ) Oooo. -\ (---( )--- \_) ) / (_/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6820t=6820 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6419]
You mean you have to STUDY for MCSE :-) Put yer seat belt on, I wanna try somethin'. I saw it in a cartoon once and I'm pretty sure it'll work ! , /'^ ^'\ ((o)-(o)) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo- Carl Mirsky CCNP, CCDP, MCSE, SCSA Technical Solutions Architect Covansys ( www.covansys.com ) 1750 E. Golf Rd. #1100 Schaumburg, IL 60173 .oooO ( ) Oooo. -\ (---( )--- \_) ) / (_/ -Original Message- From: Christopher Kolp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 10:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6353] Hey NT LOOSER, Go away. This a cisco mailing list. Why don't you go study for the MCSE or something... =] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Bond Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 8:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6323] UNIX guys, I make $240K per year, how much you make? Why you guys look down on us??? I don't get it... Jim NT guy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6419t=6419 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6420]
MM PROZAC!! -Original Message- From: Charlie Hartwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 3:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6386] In closing... so since I am Unix, (Solaris), experienced and certified, AND Microsoft experienced and certified, does this mean I need to run out and get some Prozac right quick I think, maybe, that an overdose of Prozac may have contributed to the start of this whole argument --- Jon Krabbenschmidt wrote: This reminds me of an argument my two boys, 3 and 5, had earlier this week. On swore that their bike was faster. I tried to explain that there is the length of legs, mechanics of the bikes, and age, (experience), that added to the difference. I was making the point that the bikes, though physically different, were in the end basically the same, (different platforms that achieve the same purpose). Well I ended up walking away. Last time I checked this was a group that was focused on network engineering. Hummm this is OS independent. Seems to me our job is taking all the stuff Sys Admins have, and all the stuff that Infrastructure has, and all the stuff internal support has, and make it talk. We don't care whether it is Unix, NT, CPM, Apple, or an old VIC20. Our job is to make the stuff play well together. My hat goes off to Alan and Peter, as well as some others, for their very civilized, and educational discourse on BGP/OSPF. I can only hope to be where these people are some day. In closing... so since I am Unix, (Solaris), experienced and certified, AND Microsoft experienced and certified, does this mean I need to run out and get some Prozac right quick Jon -Original Message- From: Shawn Goodson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 11:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6378] With all that extra money maybe you could get a writing class, or a spell checker ? - Original Message - From: Jim Bond To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 4:14 PM Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6335] Oh yeah?! I'm win2000 roll out project manager for a fortune 500 company. I make $150 per hour. Hope you can figure out, SMART Unix guy. And Chuck, no problem. I just don't like some people (like SMART Russ) knows a little than others then show off that much. --- Russ Kreigh wrote: We look down upon you because you have to brag about how much you make. - Original Message - From: Jim Bond To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 7:40 PM Subject: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6323] UNIX guys, I make $240K per year, how much you make? Why you guys look down on us??? I don't get it... Jim NT guy Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6420t=6420 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco IOS BGP Attribute Corruption [7:4409]
Have any of you seen this or run into it? http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/ios-bgp-attr-corruption-pub.shtml Put yer seat belt on, I wanna try somethin'. I saw it in a cartoon once and I'm pretty sure it'll work ! , /'^ ^'\ ((o)-(o)) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo- Carl Mirsky CCNP,CCDP,MCSE,SCSA Technical Solutions Architect Covansys ( www.covansys.com ) 1750 E. Golf Rd. #1100 Schaumburg, IL 60173 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 847-969-3054 Fax: 847-969-6999 .oooO ( ) Oooo. -\ (---( )--- \_) ) / (_/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=4409t=4409 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT SOLARIS
I am Solaris certified, and I initially learned by hands on. There are some excellent sites, including http://www.stokely.com/unix.sysadm.resources/ being one of them. Also there are Solaris admin books available at your local book store. One of the best UNIX reference books I have found is UNIX in a Nutshell by O'Reilly. I use this book all of the time for reference. For the most part, UNIX is UNIX, except obviously for the specific OS commands. I also concur that http://docs.sun.com is an excellent source, as is contains all of the sun documentation for current, as well as previous versions. If you have any other Q's, please feel free to contact me offline. Thanks. Carl. " Integrity Can Be Communicated" , /'^ ^'\ ((o)-(o)) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo- Carl Mirsky CCNP, CCDP, MCSE, SCSA Technical Solutions Architect Covansys ( www.covansys.com ) (formally CBSI) 1750 E. Golf Rd. #1100 Schaumburg, IL 60173 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 847-969-3054 Fax: 847-969-6999 .oooO ( ) Oooo. -\ (---( )--- \_) ) / (_/ -Original Message- From: Circusnuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 2:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT SOLARIS I have a dilemma... I have decided to divert from Cisco routing for a = stint in security fault Management. I'm need to learn Solaris have = purchased the X86/ Solaris 8 for Intel processors. My question is with = Solaris training. I could hack @ this read-up to become proficient = (not looking to become an administrator). Can you suggest any good = books ??? The local community college offers Unix classes, or I can tap = my annual training $$$ from work to take a $1900 Sun Solaris class. I = really really am treating the Company's money with kid gloves though. = There are a few security classes I'd like to save it for. Please advise away Thanks=20 Phil _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Changes in the Cisco certification structure for CCNA CCNP Specializations
Ahh Marketing.. -Original Message- From: Arthur Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 7:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Changes in the Cisco certification structure for CCNA CCNP Specializations Looks like the three and a half level (CCxA, CCxP, CCxP-Specialization, CCIE) Cisco certification Program is being substantially changed - perhaps a sign of more changes to come. In short, some specializations are no longer add-ons to CCxP, now they're add-ons to CCxA http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/whats_new/#certifications http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/cqs.html Arthur Stewart _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
