RE: Network design product selecion question [7:65564]
yes... ebay.com :) -Original Message- From: John Brandis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Network design product selecion question [7:65564] Hi All, once again, I am back designing a network for my company (scary). The budget I have been given from my manager, would not pay for a family visit to McDonalds. However, this is the requirment (my product selection is below) * Provide up to 200 ports on the floor * 2 level building, with multi-mode fibre between level 1 2 * Level 1, has 70 users, 30 servers * Level 2 has 60 users * 2 subnets will be used in this office I suggested, that we use a single 4003 as the core, purchase a Sup III, 1 x 8 port GBIC module, 1 x 48 port 10/100/1000 module. We then use the GBIC's to extend to the 2 x 2950's on the floor above, and 2 x copper GBIC's to the 2950's on the same floor as the core switch. This solution, worked out to be around $100K AUD (australian $$). This was seen as far to expensive. Is there any other model of Cisco catalyst switch that can perform layer 3 routing, GBIC between floors and etc that could do the job of the 4003/4006 ? Or is there a better way of doing it ? John Sydney Australia ** visit http://www.solution6.com UK Customers - http://www.solution6.co.uk ** Level 14, 383 Kent Street, Sydney NSW 2000. General Phone: 61 2 9278 0666 General Fax: 61 2 9278 0555 ** This email message (and attachments) may contain information that is confidential to Solution 6. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or attachments. In such a case, please notify the sender by return email immediately and erase all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of Solution 6 are neither given nor endorsed by it. * Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=65578t=65564 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]
That' right... But for me any reliability value less than 255/255 is a line problem.. check the cables and connectors.. Did you change them?... mustafa -Original Message- From: Spio Wagus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 5:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491] clear the counters on both routers and find out the rate of new error accumulation. check the interface after say 5 mins and see if you get new more errors and we can take it from there. check the controllers for errors too. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Walmsley Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 6:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491] Hi All, I need some help to troubleshoot a problem, I have a 7500 router with a ds3(45Mbps) connected to a 7200 ds3 (45Mbps). The line appears to be very slow and is showing input errors on the 7200 and 7500 serial interfaces. Here's some info below from the serial interfaces on both the 7200 and the 7500 showing the errors. If you need more info please tell me what you need to see and i'll post it. Thanks very much for your help. 7200. Serial4/0 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is M1T-T3 pa Description: -DS3- Internet address is ***.***.***.***/30 MTU 4470 bytes, BW 44210 Kbit, DLY 200 usec, reliability 254/255, txload 21/255, rxload 13/255 Encapsulation HDLC, crc 16, loopback not set Keepalive set (10 sec) Restart-Delay is 0 secs Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never Last clearing of show interface counters never Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 2028 Queueing strategy: fifo Output queue :0/40 (size/max) 5 minute input rate 227 bits/sec, 1660 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 3721000 bits/sec, 1440 packets/sec 5130206 packets input, 675673959 bytes, 0 no buffer Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 0 parity 70621 input errors, 68181 CRC, 0 frame, 601 overrun, 0 ignored, 1839 abort 4675498 packets output, 1691575679 bytes, 0 underruns 0 output errors, 0 applique, 2 interface resets 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out 13 carrier transitions rxLOS inactive, rxLOF inactive, rxAIS inactive txAIS inactive, rxRAI inactive, txRAI inactive 7500 Serial0/0/0 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is cyBus PODS3 Serial Description: -DS3- Internet address is ***.***.***.***/30 MTU 4470 bytes, BW 44210 Kbit, DLY 200 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 8/255, rxload 19/255 Encapsulation HDLC, crc 16, loopback not set Keepalive set (10 sec) Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never Last clearing of show interface counters never Queueing strategy: fifo Output queue 0/40, 215 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops 5 minute input rate 3357000 bits/sec, 1318 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 1502000 bits/sec, 1513 packets/sec 256936267 packets input, 174282583 bytes, 0 no buffer Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 7 giants, 0 throttles 0 parity 159026910 input errors, 159025003 CRC, 0 frame, 1640 overrun, 761 ignored, 267 abort 279300042 packets output, 2839210992 bytes, 0 underruns 0 output errors, 0 applique, 1 interface resets 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out 619 carrier transitions LC=up CA=down TM=down LB=down TA=down LA=down Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=65497t=65491 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: is 10baseT dead? [7:65263]
Oh!.. Priscilla no!...this is a pool problem.. I dont want to go back to primary school days!... :) no thanks (for the book) Mustafa -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 7:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: is 10baseT dead? [7:65263] It's been a long day. Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: DeVoe, Charles (PKI) wrote: What about htis. The server tries to dump data to the client over the 10M pipe. The client cannot accept it as fast as the server can put out. Having a slower line to the client in effect will cause degradation at the server. I have a better answer and question than my previous wisecrack. :-) I also bumped the conversation to the top of the Web site. Answer: The problem won't be the client not keeping up. The problem will occur at a store-and-forward switch between the server and client. (To connect 100-Mbps to 10-Mbps requires a store-and-forward device. Let's say it's a switch.) So, the engineering question becomes, at what point will this mythical store-and-forward switch start dropping packets? Here's a hypothetical scenario: The server has a 100-Mbps NIC. It is connected to the switch. The client has a 10-Mbps NIC. It is also connected to the switch. The switch has 1000 buffers. Each buffer holds a 100-byte packet. The server is sending 100,000 packets per second as fast as it can (i.e. with no significant gap between the packets). Each packet is 100 bytes. The switch is sending the packets out the 10-Mbps port as fast as it can. After how many packets sent by the server will the switch start dropping packets? A free book to anyone who gets the right answer! You must show your work. :-) Priscilla -Original Message- From: Steven Aiello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: is 10baseT dead? [7:65077] Scott, I think you have a great point, it seems that most of the computer technologies we have today are not taken full advantage of. However instead of taking the air out the sale's staff sales as it were ( no pun intended ). Why not suggest upgrade from the Idf's to the server farm. You could suggest Ether Channel to combine some of the runs you have put in ( I'm sure ) when you are upgrading your networks. This way you have more bandwidth to the server farm and fault tolerance. WOW now that's a selling point. Also it can be done with out raising up the costs on hardware to much. You can get duel interface NIC's for your servers that are fairly reasonable now. I am amazed at the push for processor speed now, I can think if very few people that NEED 3Ghz with 2Gb of RAM. However no one NEEDS a Jaguar eigther, some people just want it and if they can afford it so be it. Look at the situation this way at least if your going for over kill the network will perform well, that is better than underselling and then having your clients be upset because they are limited in the future. But hay that's just my 2 cents. Take it with a grain of salt. = ) Steven Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=65274t=65263 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Silly EIGRP question [7:64259]
resending. -Original Message- From: Mustafa Furat Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 7:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Silly EIGRP question [7:64259] hi... INET#sh version Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3640-IS-M), Version 12.0(7)T, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) Copyright (c) 1986-1999 by cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Wed 08-Dec-99 01:53 by phanguye Image text-base: 0x600088F0, data-base: 0x60E02000 . INET(config)#router eigrp 10 INET(config-router)#eigrp ? log-neighbor-changes Enable/Disable IP-EIGRP neighbor logging log-neighbor-warnings Enable/Disable IP-EIGRP neighbor warnings stub Set IP-EIGRP as stubed router I still am not sure if it is for that purpose... but this is how it can be configured... Mustafa -Original Message- From: Amar KHELIFI [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 2:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Silly EIGRP question [7:64259] hi, eigrp log-neighbor-changes eigrp log-neighbor-warnings Regards, Amar. Scott Roberts a icrit dans le message de news: [EMAIL PROTECTED] never heard of that command...doesn't exist to my knowledge (at least on 12.0) scott Shyam, Sharma S (CAP, GECIS) wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Missed the command show ip eigrp timers rgds -- From: Shyam, Sharma S (CAP, GECIS) Reply To: Shyam, Sharma S (CAP, GECIS) Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 6:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Silly EIGRP question [7:64259] Michael I am not much experiencd but can we use for this. Rgds Sky -- From: Michael Williams[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply To: Michael Williams Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 6:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Silly EIGRP question [7:64259] Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: A protocol analyzer? ;-) And one that does a decent job with EIGRP. A lot of them don't. I think EtherPeek does in its latest software. Network Associates does a good job with EIGRP. I'll span a the port connecting out WAN router to the core switch (I'm 99% sure we're getting hit with updates from the WAN). We use NA, but haven't had the need to use it for EIGRP.. You can turn the router into a troubleshooting tool with the various debug commands, of course. There's quite a few for EIGRP and at least one would give you the info that you seek, (probably debug eigrp packet). But, you didn't want to use debugging, for good reason probably. Yeah we don't take debugging on the core routers/switches to easily =) Ever since a new guy decided to debug EIGRP in an EIGRP storm without a no logging console. Thanks! Mike Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=65136t=64259 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Silly EIGRP question [7:64259]
why dont you Create an access-list and log eigrp packets? and use ie., eigrp network 10 log-neighbor-changes log-neighbor-warnings I have never tried but wonder if it works :) if not why? Thanks Mustafa -Original Message- From: Michael Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 5:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Silly EIGRP question [7:64259] I know this question sounds silly, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to do this: Short of debugging, how can I tell the last EIGRP update that was received on a router, from what neighbor that update came, and for what network(s) it updated? I know I can 'sh ip prot' and see when the last update was, but this isn't what I'm looking for. TIA, Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64578t=64259 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: some question about frame-relay configuration! [7:63973]
I think its not about FR config but the physical layer. You need to check the cables. You are not using any modems??? I hope this helps -Original Message- From: tigers zheng [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 3:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: some question about frame-relay configuration! [7:63973] I have a question about frame-relay!Please tell me why it happened? the topolofy :r1(s0)---(s0/0)r2(s0/1)---(s0/0)r3 r1:2511,r2:2620,r3:2621 the configuration: r1: interface s0 ip address 10.10.10.1 255.255.255.0 encapsulation frame-relay frame-relay lmi-type ansi frame-relay intf-type dte frame-relay interface-dlci 100 ! r3: interface s0/0 ip address 10.10.10.2 255.255.255.0 encapsulation frame-relay frame-relay lmi-type ansi frame-relay intf-type dte frame-relay interface-dlci 101 ! r2: frame-relay switching int s0/0 no ip address encapsulation frame-relay clockrate 64000 frame-relay route 100 interface s0/1 101 frame-relay lmi-type ansi frame-relay intf-type dce ! int s0/1 no ip address encapsulation frame-relay clockrate 128000 frame-relay route 101 interface s0/0 100 frame-relay lmi-type ansi frame-relay intf-type dce ! But the serial of all of the router is shutdown,line protocol is also down! I want to know what happen! Thanks very much! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64003t=63973 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]