Full Duplex Hub?

2001-03-02 Thread Patrick McAllister

I know this isn't a Cisco question per se, and I apologize in advance.=20

Is there such a thing as a full duplex 100BaseTx hub or repeater? I =
thought all hubs/repeaters had to run in half duplex.

Here's the scenario, of sorts. I have a Cogent 1200 100Base TX Class I =
Repeater. I hook two PC's up to them and start transferring files. =
Everything works swimmingly. I look at the config after I'm done and =
both NIC's in the PC's are set to full duplex. There is (of course) no =
setting on the Cogent, and there is (of course) a collision light, but =
it never flashed during the transfer. I know I'm not the sharpest knife =
in the drawer, I accept that. But have I been laboring under a =
misconception all this time?=20



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Re: Full Duplex Hub?

2001-03-03 Thread Patrick McAllister

To all who responded, thank you.=20

Mark - that's one (of my no doubt many) points of confusion. I know a =
switch breaks up collision domains and a hub is shared media, therefore =
one collision domain. I also know that the NIC set to 100 means nothing =
as far as half or full duplex goes, as you can run 100 in either. I've =
searched around - trying Cogent's site though I think they are out of =
business - even reading and rereading Charles Spurgeon's Ethernet - The =
Definitive Guide. Yeah, I know, there's reading and there's the real =
world, I just wanted to check if my logic was correct. No where do I see =
anything about 100 Full Duplex hubs. Switches, sure, that's their reason =
for living for the most part. I have found some writings on the web =
saying that with certain "proprietary" (read - not based on the Ethernet =
Standard) hubs will run at 100 Full Duplex. What I haven't found is WHY =
or HOW they can do this.=20

Gene - yes that makes sense, but how do the NIC's decide to run half =
duplex if I've forced them to full? (I avoid auto-negotiate like the =
plague)?=20

David - Exactly my understanding. Collision detection is turned off at =
full duplex, so how in the hell is this thing working? I suspect the =
answer lies in the hardware specs (clever, aren't I?) but since I can't =
find them I'm bumbling around blindly.

Anyway, thanks for all the responses, it helps to no I wasn't entirely =
crazy...regarding this at least.

Thanks again
Patrick


"Mark Holloway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message =
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> Well, a full duplex hub is typically called a switch.  Just because =
the NICs
> are at 100 Full doesn't mean anything.  Many times devices can be set =
for
> auto negotiate and not configure properly.  You can force a setting on =
a NIC
> and even if it wrong, it will still work, but there may be errors and
> retransmissions will occur.  If you only have two devices in this hub =
and
> they are only talking to each other, there may not be any collisions.
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> Regards,
> Mark
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> > I know this isn't a Cisco question per se, and I apologize in =
advance.=3D20
> >
> > Is there such a thing as a full duplex 100BaseTx hub or repeater? I =
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> > thought all hubs/repeaters had to run in half duplex.
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> > Here's the scenario, of sorts. I have a Cogent 1200 100Base TX Class =
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> > Repeater. I hook two PC's up to them and start transferring files. =
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> > Everything works swimmingly. I look at the config after I'm done and =
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> > both NIC's in the PC's are set to full duplex. There is (of course) =
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> > setting on the Cogent, and there is (of course) a collision light, =
but =3D
> > it never flashed during the transfer. I know I'm not the sharpest =
knife =3D
> > in the drawer, I accept that. But have I been laboring under a =3D
> > misconception all this time?=3D20
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> >
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CCNA...

2001-03-31 Thread Patrick McAllister

Well, took the test (finally) this morning and passed with a 946 (out of =
849 to pass, as almost everyone knows by now). I really want to go back =
to the Cisco Press CCNA study guide, it was much more thorough (and less =
error riddled) than Lammle's Sybex book. Not that the Sybex didn't have =
it's merits, it just simplified things too much. Of course when I =
started this months ago I didn't think so, but I am ever so much smarter =
now! :)=20

Time for a cold beer me thinks - sure it's only 10:13am, but as Lionel =
Hutz would say "yeah, but I've been up for days!"

If anyone is looking for advice, best I can say is that personally I =
didn't think the test was that tough or worded poorly, but that could =
have just be my lot of questions. Can't really tell you what to focus on =
as the test was kind of all over. I didn't get as many Frame Relay =
questions as I had anticipated, which was fortunate for me as my FR =
knowledge sucks. It's an area I definitely need a better handle on. As =
others have said before me, READ the question, if you skim, like I have =
a tendency to do, you'll regret it.=20

Anyway, after my beer I think I'll look into where to go next. Even =
though I know a lot of people say the CCNA test is simple and anyone =
could pass it, I'm still pleased that I managed to do so. I think I have =
enough theoretical knowledge and hands on experience not to cheapen the =
cert. Least ways I hope so :)

Anyway, have a good weekend everyone! And thanks millions for all the =
great posts here, I got a lot of in depth info from this group, I hope =
to be able to start contributing soon


Later
Patrick

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OT - Cisco Humor [7:1431]

2001-04-20 Thread Patrick McAllister

Sorry to interrupt, but I thought this was pretty funny!

http://www.satirewire.com/news/0104/cisco.shtml

Now, back to studying!!




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