Zero for a host address

2001-01-31 Thread Randy Witt

Have an issue, hope many of you don't feel this is too off topic.  Many of =
you have helped me in the past with certification questions, perhaps you =
can assist with this one as well.

I am trying to establish a connection to the City of Greenville's network. =
 What should be a simple connection is giving me fits.

I'm currently using 2 Cisco 1601 routers, routing RIPv2.  From my network =
to the city's, I pass through a total of 5 routers (2 our mine, 3 belong =
to the city).  Currently I can communicate with each router and vice versa =
via Telnet or ping.  However, the city of Greenville's network has the =
following IP address 10.128.0.0/12 (or 255.240.0.0).  The interface =
attached to the city of Greenville's network is 10.130.0.1/12.  Everything =
within this network has  3'd octet of zero. =20

Originally, from his network he could not ping us, however I could ping =
him (him being the net admin using a PC with an address of 10.130.0.24/12).=
  I added a default route on one of my Cisco's pointing back to his =
network and that problem went away.  Now I'm trying to add an ACL on our =
router blocking all but Telnet traffic coming from a host on his network =
to a host within our network.  In testing I can get the ACL's to work for =
every system except one on the 10.128.0.0 subnet.  By work I mean on the =
networks in between my network and the city's I can setup ICMP or Telnet =
ACL's permitting traffic and they can get in.  This was done for testing =
purposes only.  My goal is to lock everyone out but the host w/ an IP =
address of 10.130.0.24/12.

I believe that the problem lies with the zero being used as a third octet =
.  However I've seen Cisco documentation using zero's as host addresses.  =
I'm a bit confused for I've found plenty of documentation stating that =
zero's in the network/subnet address aren't recommended, however I can =
find nothing stating zero's in the "host" portion aren't recommended.

Any ideas?  Has anyone come across a problem like this before?

Simple answer would be to tell the city of Greenville to remove the zero =
in the third octet and replace it with a one or higher.  The answer from =
them is that it would be too much trouble.  This is their default gateway =
for over 450 machines.  So I'm looking for help to see if there's anything =
else I can try.

Thanks for any and all advice,
rtw

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DIVFONT size=1Have an issue, hope many of you don't feel this is too off 
topic.nbsp; Many of you have helped me in the past with certification 
questions, perhaps you can assist with this one as well./FONT/DIV
DIVFONT size=1/FONTnbsp;/DIV
DIVFONT size=1I am trying to establish a connection to the City of 
Greenville's network.nbsp; What should be a simple connection is giving me 
fits./FONT/DIV
DIVFONT size=1/FONTnbsp;/DIV
DIVFONT size=1I'm currently using 2 Cisco 1601 routers, routing RIPv2.nbsp; 
From my network to the city's, I pass through a total of 5 routers (2 our mine, 
3 belong to the city).nbsp; Currently I can communicate with each router and 
vice versa via Telnet or ping.nbsp; However, thenbsp;city of 
Greenville'snbsp;network has the following IP address 10.128.0.0/12 (or 
255.240.0.0).nbsp; The interface attached to the city of Greenville's network 
is 10.130.0.1/12.nbsp; Everything within this network hasnbsp; 3'd octet of 
zero.nbsp; /FONT/DIV
DIVFONT size=1/FONTnbsp;/DIV
DIVFONT size=1Originally, fromnbsp;his network he could not ping us, 
however I could ping him (him beingnbsp;the net admin using anbsp;PC with an 
address of 10.130.0.24/12).nbsp; I added a default route on one of my Cisco's 
pointing back to his network and that problem went away.nbsp; Now I'm trying to 
add an ACL on our router blocking all but Telnet traffic coming from a host on 
his network to a host within our network.nbsp; In testing I can get the ACL's 
to work for every system except one on the 10.128.0.0 subnet.nbsp; By work I 
mean on the networks in between my network and the city's I can setup ICMP or 
Telnet ACL's permitting traffic and they can get in.nbsp; This was done for 
testing purposes only.nbsp; My goal is to lock everyone out but the host w/ an 
IP address of 10.130.0.24/12./FONT/DIV
DIVFONT size=1/FONTnbsp;/DIV
DIVFONT size=1I believe that the problem lies with the zero being used as 
anbsp;third octetnbsp;.nbsp; However I've seen Cisco documentation using 
zero's as host addresses.nbsp; I'm a bit confused for I've found plenty of 
documentation stating that zero's in the network/subnet address aren't 
recommended, however I can find nothing stating zero's in the "host" portion 
aren't recommended./FONT/DIV
DIVFONT size=1/FONTnbsp;/DIV
DIVFONT size=1Any ideas?nbsp; Has anyone come across a problem 

CCDA question-512 bit times

2000-07-27 Thread Randy Witt

I have a question regarding the round-trip propagation delay on an Ethernet network.

Page 123 of the Cisco Press "Designing Cisco Networks" book states:

"The most significant design rule for Ethernet is that the round-trip propagation 
delay in one collision domain must not exceed 512 bit times, which is a requirement 
for collision detection to work correctly."

With 100Mbps Ethernet, the maximum round-trip delay would be 5.12 seconds, resulting 
in a distance limitation of 205 meters.

I currently oversee a large flat network covering several miles in diameter.  All of 
the links between buildings are single-mode fiber links.  No routing is involved, 
everything is switched - one large broadcast domain.

How does the 512 bit time rule apply to fiber optic cabling?  I see on page 127 of the 
same book that the Round trip delay in bit times per meter for Cat5 cable is 1.112, 
whereas Fiber-optic cable it's 1.0.

I guess I'm having difficulty understanding how fiber can overcome the 512 bit-time 
rule and can have a much longer distance.

I do realize that this is not exactly a Cisco question, though covered on the DCN/CCDA 
material.  If someone could kindly refer me to any material that covers this topic, 
I'd appreciate it.

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Re: ACRC

2000-07-24 Thread Randy Witt

790 is the passing score for all.

 "Amit Lilani" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/24/00 03:12AM 
just wanted to know the passing marks for ccna ... i just gave it today got
727 out of 1000 --- 790 was passing ... all places told me 70 percent was
passing ... of all my acrc book also told 70 is passing... does it change
from person to person.. or is it 790 ... or was it a mistake done for me...

thanks...


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Catalyst 1900 - upgrade to Enterprise Edition

2000-06-30 Thread Randy Witt

I'd like to add a couple Cisco Catalyst 1900 switches to my home lab.  A couple 
auction sites list good prices for the Catalyst 1900 model WS-C1912C-A.  However, it 
is not the enterprise edition.  

I see that the enterprise edition upgrade kit (WS-C19/28EEUG) for the Catalyst 1900 is 
listed on Cisco's web site.  What exactly is involved to go to the enterprise edition? 
 Is simply a software upgrade, or is the purchase of hardware necessary?

Would it be recommended to purchase a switch w/ the enterprise edition on it already 
and pay 200-300 more instead of dealing with the upgrade kit?

On a similar topic what's Cisco's policy on the following situation:

If I buy a router from an auction site, for my home lab ONLY, and it has the IP 
feature set, but I'd like the enterprise feature set,  can I just download it from 
Cisco, or do I need a paper license stating that I've paid x dollars for this feature 
set?

I hope it's not felt that this topic was off topic.  I know there are many individuals 
out there who are setting up home labs and this may pertain to them.

Thanks in advance for your assistance.
rtw

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Catalyst 1900 - upgrade to Enterprise Edition

2000-06-30 Thread Randy Witt

I'd like to add a couple Cisco Catalyst 1900 switches to my home lab.  A couple 
auction sites list good prices for the Catalyst 1900 model WS-C1912C-A.  However, it 
is not the enterprise edition.  

I see that the enterprise edition upgrade kit (WS-C19/28EEUG) for the Catalyst 1900 is 
listed on Cisco's web site.  What exactly is involved to go to the enterprise edition? 
 Is simply a software upgrade, or is the purchase of hardware necessary?

Would it be recommended to purchase a switch w/ the enterprise edition on it already 
and pay 200-300 more instead of dealing with the upgrade kit?

On a similar topic what's Cisco's policy on the following situation:

If I buy a router from an auction site, for my home lab ONLY, and it has the IP 
feature set, but I'd like the enterprise feature set,  can I just download it from 
Cisco, or do I need a paper license stating that I've paid x dollars for this feature 
set?

I hope it's not felt that this topic was off topic.  I know there are many individuals 
out there who are setting up home labs and this may pertain to them.

Thanks in advance for your assistance.
rtw

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