RE: Wireless LANS
Three words... SECURITY - SECURITY - SECURITY Brad Stanfield Network/Integration Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Government Micro Resources Network Operations Control Center Norfolk Naval Shipyard Bldg 33 NAVSEA NCOE 757-393-9526 1-800-626-6622 -Original Message- From: Michael Linehan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 10:32 AM To: CiscoStudyGroup Subject: OT: Wireless LANS As a member of the local chapter of the NPA (Network Professional Association) I have been tasked with an interesting assignment. I need to make the following argument: Anyone who uses a wired network today is stupid! or Anyone who doesn't use a wireless LAN is stupid! (take your pick) This is of course all in fun. I of course want to do as good a job as possible so my question is this. If you had to make the argument that wireless is the only way to go for local area networking what would you say?? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Wireless LANS
11Mb is only available within close proximity to the Access Point. As you move away from it your speed drops off at specified levels - 11Mb -> 4Mb -> 2Mb -> 1Mb. High density placement of Access Points are required to maintain 11Mb. throughout a given area. There's this company that bought a really nice wireless company with an excellent product line called Aironet? (Now, Cisco Aironet), and they have lots of literature on wireless and the 802.11 Standard. Most of the systems have on board encryption per the 802.11 Standard called WEP, Wireless Equivalent Privacy (56 bit DES), and they are working on an upgrade to triple DES. Also, there are products that provide a software piece for your remote device and a hardware component for the wired portion of the LAN that provide FIPS certified encryption for the airwave link. (TimeStep VPNS offer the best FIPS certified one so far.) The biggest thing to remember is that every time you add an Access Point to your LAN, you've added an open air antenna that is accessible by anyone. Not necessarily able to enter the network automatically, but a potential point for exploitation. That's why my answer was Security. You have to know what your vulnerabilities are, the type of data you deal with, and the level of risk you are willing to assume. All of the answers so far have some validity. There are places that wireless is the proper solution and other places that it isn't. Also, All wireless LANs of any size will have a wired infrastructure, so the only completely wireless network is going to be small. Brad Stanfield Network/Integration Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Government Micro Resources Network Operations Control Center Norfolk Naval Shipyard Bldg 33 NAVSEA NCOE 757-393-9526 1-800-626-6622 -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 7:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Wireless LANS Actually, the application I have in mind involves filming a life-threatening operation and sending the streaming video to the MD expert who couldn't be there in person. Seriously, high-bandwidth wireless applications will become more popular. Bandwidth is like closet space. There's never enough of it. Priscilla At 02:45 PM 10/30/00, Chuck Larrieu wrote: >To clarify further, at this point in time what you have is really a return >to the old 10baseT hub, if you will, with all the bad things that may >entail. On the other hand, it might be argued that those most likely to want >this mobility are management types who want nothing more than to read their >e-mail during boring meetings ;-> > >This discussion can go in a number of directions from here. But in general, >high bandwidth users are probably not real good candidates for this kind of >mobility anyway. Most places I know of have their conference rooms wired for >high speed LAN connections to accommodate those who need high speed >connectivity during meetings and presentations. > >Also, I have this theory that for a good percentage of mobile users, >wireless connectivity to e-mal and customer name and address databases is >really al that is necessary. Palm or some similar wireless device would be >more than enough for these folks, assuming the back ends are in place. > >Chuck > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of >Irwin Lazar >Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 2:11 PM >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' >Subject:RE: Wireless LANS > > << File: Irwin Lazar.vcf >> >Something to note, the 11MB is shared by all users of the base station, they >don't each get 11MB. > >Irwin > > > Slow? How many end-users (not servers or datacenters) > > really need more > > than 10 megabit of bandwidth? Unless you are an engineer or architect > > pushing around 100 meg Autocad files or an IT department > > deploying software > > packages and updates, the average desktop user, who is opening Word > > Documents, surfing the Internet, and viewing email do not really need > > anything more than 10 megabit for day-to-day needs. > > Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't deploy anything under a > > 100 mbit today, with > > the exception of wireless, but do the _majority_ of end-users > > really need > > the bandwidth that they have available to them? > > > > Perry J. Lucas > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Priscilla Oppenheimer > > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 3:34 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Wireless LANS > > > > 1. It's pretty slow (< 11 Mbps shared bandwidth) > > 2. Mobile wireless is fraught with issues. How do you get a > > new IP address > > when you move from subnet to subnet? (Of course, that's not too > > straightforward on wired either, come to think of it.) > > > > Priscilla > > > > > > > > _ > > FAQ, list
RE: Deferred Packets
802.3 uses CSMA/CD *BUT* 802.11 (wireless ETHERNET) uses CSMA/CA so, in the truest sense YES, it IS possible for Ethernet media to deploy both. Just not simultaneously. Brad Stanfield Network Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Government Micro Resources Network Operations Control Center Bldg 33 NAVSEA NCOE 757-393-9526 -Original Message- From: Luong, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 5:19 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 'Cisco Group Study' Subject: RE: Deferred Packets Further to your response, a fellow co-worker of mind has mentioned that ethernet used CSMA/CD 802.3 instead of CA? Is it possible for ethernet media to deploy both? I have not come across this beforeany takers out there? Dave. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 12:40 PM To: Luong, David Subject: Re: Deferred Packets Deferred packets are a normal part of an ethernet transmission. If multiple hosts attempt to transmit over the same ethernet media at the same time, a collision occurs. After a specified period of time, both packets involved in the collision are lost and must be retransmitted by the transmitting hosts. Ethernet interfaces employ collision-avoidance methods to detect other traffic on the network and await opportunities for safe transmission,this is also known as ethernet deference. Hope this helps. "Luong, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 07/17/2000 01:37:57 PM Please respond to "Luong, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Cisco Group Study'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: (bcc: LOMBMML Hill Michale/Lincoln/Metromail) Subject: Deferred Packets Hi Folks: On a 10-half ethernet connection between two routers, we are seeing deferred packets happening as well as the normal usual collisions. Are deferred packets just normal as well? Is it expected in ethernet media? Thanks in advance... David Luong CCNP,CCNA,Network+,A+,i-Net+ Telecommunications Analyst Insurance Corporation of B.C. Vancouver, B.C CANADA ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Deferred Packets
quickly extracted from KNOW.COM... CSMA/CA Carrier Sense Multiple Access/Collision Avoidance (C-S-M-A-C-A) Network collision detection and resolution technique. A node wishing to transmit first sends a jamming signal, wait, and then send the data. It stops if another jamming signal is detected. CSMA/CD Carrier Sense Multiple Access/Collision Detection (C-S-M-A-C-D) Network collision detection and resolution technique. A node detecting other traffic on the network stops transmitting, waits a random amount of time, and then tries again Brad Stanfield Network Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Government Micro Resources Network Operations Control Center Bldg 33 NAVSEA NCOE 757-393-9526 -Original Message- From: Kent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 10:50 AM To: Stanfield Hilman B(Brad) CONT NNSY; 'Luong, David'; 'Cisco Group Study' Subject: RE: Deferred Packets Can you guys tell me what is the difference between CD and CA? Detection and Avoidance? Thanks Kent --- "Stanfield Hilman B(Brad) CONT NNSY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 802.3 uses CSMA/CD *BUT* 802.11 (wireless ETHERNET) > uses CSMA/CA so, in the > truest sense YES, it IS possible for Ethernet media > to deploy both. Just not > simultaneously. > > > Brad Stanfield > Network Engineer > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Government Micro Resources > Network Operations Control Center > Bldg 33 NAVSEA NCOE > 757-393-9526 > > > > -Original Message- > From: Luong, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 5:19 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 'Cisco Group Study' > Subject: RE: Deferred Packets > > > Further to your response, a fellow co-worker of mind > has mentioned that > ethernet used CSMA/CD 802.3 instead of CA? Is it > possible for ethernet media > to deploy both? I have not come across this > beforeany takers out there? > > Dave. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 12:40 PM > To: Luong, David > Subject: Re: Deferred Packets > > > > > Deferred packets are a normal part of an ethernet > transmission. > > If multiple hosts attempt to transmit over the same > ethernet media at the > same > time, a collision occurs. After a specified period > of time, both packets > involved in the collision are lost and must be > retransmitted by the > transmitting > hosts. Ethernet interfaces employ > collision-avoidance methods to detect > other > traffic on the network and await opportunities for > safe transmission,this is > also known as ethernet deference. > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > "Luong, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 07/17/2000 > 01:37:57 PM > > Please respond to "Luong, David" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: "'Cisco Group Study'" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > cc: (bcc: LOMBMML Hill > Michale/Lincoln/Metromail) > > > > > > > Subject: Deferred Packets > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Folks: > > On a 10-half ethernet connection between two > routers, we are seeing deferred > packets happening as well as the normal usual > collisions. Are deferred > packets just normal as well? Is it expected in > ethernet media? Thanks in > advance... > > David Luong > CCNP,CCNA,Network+,A+,i-Net+ > Telecommunications Analyst > Insurance Corporation of B.C. > Vancouver, B.C CANADA > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Track
You CAN certify CCNP 2.0 with CCNA 1.0. As long as ALL of your CCNP tests are 2.0 track. According to Cisco's website, either CCNA 1.0 OR 2.0 is a prerequisite to CCNP 2.0 See http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/lan/programs/ccnp.ht ml Brad Stanfield Network Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Government Micro Resources Network Operations Control Center Bldg 33 NAVSEA NCOE 757-393-9526 -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 2:04 PM To: Wayne Roan; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New Track You can take a mixture oftests but you will only be a CCNP 1.0 until you take all the new tests Duck - Original Message - From: Wayne Roan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 3:58 PM Subject: New Track > Group, > > I am a CCNA 1.0. Do I have to take the CCNA 2.0 before I can take > the CCNP 2.0 tests? I know the CCNP 1.0 retires on July 31, 2000, and I > have not even started on the CCNP. Therefore, I am trying to figure out if > my CCNA 1.0 is valid for taking the CCNP 2.0 tests. > > Thanks, > > Wayne > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Password brk in 1700 series
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/474/index.shtml as provided on a previous post to this list. Brad Stanfield Network Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Government Micro Resources Network Operations Control Center Bldg 33 NAVSEA NCOE 757-393-9526 -Original Message- From: Hitesh Pathak (CSD-BBYRO-RTSG) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 6:37 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Password brk in 1700 series Dear all, Can anyone help me in breaking my enable secret password on 17xx router. Is there any general doc on this available on web. thanks in advance Hitesh ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CBT Training Options - Forefront
Ditto... Except my salesperson was a woman and she is STILL calling. They
don't take no for an answer.
My answering machine has at least two calls a week from this woman, even
after telling them "No thank you, my company paid for my training"
BEWARE SMARTCERTIFY! The most pushy telemarketers in the business.
Brad Stanfield
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-Original Message-
From: Bharat Suneja [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 4:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CBT Training Options - Forefront
Besides, I think ForeFront (now SmartCertify) sales guys are TOO PUSHY AND
PERSISTENT - they kept calling me repeatedly inspite of the fact that I got
really annoyed with them and clearly asked
them never to call me again and that I'm NOT interested at all in their
product any more.
I write this to the group so that everyone thinks twice before leaving their
name/address/phone number/e-mail on their web site before downloading the
demos - earlier today I was woken up by the same over-zealous sales guy from
Forefront and it wasn't the first time grrr ("Oh, I was
wondering if you're still interested in the CCNA CBT NO, I'M NOT -
REPEAT - NOT INTERESTED IN THE DAMN CCNA CBT FROM YOUR COMPANY.. NOW WHAT
PART OF THAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND ???")
The sales tactics used : The list price of the CCNA CBT is $1800, but
they'll give you all kinds of discounts (bring the price down to about $1200
or so), and if you express your inability to buy an expensive CBT product
(which isn't worth the money, imho, going by the demo I downloaded), they
will try to sell you all kinds of installment plans to sell you the CBT,
throw in freebies (buy CCNA 1.0 now and we'll throw in CCNA 2.0/ICND for
free)... anything to make you buy!
CAVEAT EMPTOR
My $0.02 worth... :-)
Bharat Suneja
""Guyler, Rik [EESUS]"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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I have to agree here. My company purchased the ForeFront CCNA CBT last year
for my training. The cost was $1800 (US), which also included ACRC. While
not bad for an overview, there were gaps left open in the end. What I did
find useful was the visualization that the CBT provided. I used the books
to get the complete coverage of the material and then the CBT for
visualization of some of the more complex topics. All in all, however, I
don't think I would waste that much money again for CBTs. I passed my next
3 CCNP tests with only books and resources from the web (well, this group
too, of course!) and found this method, while somewhat lengthier, to be more
complete. If time is critical, take the class and get it over with. You'll
get class materials to continue your studies as well as an instructor to
answer questions all day long (hopefully).
Good luck!
Rik
-Original Message-
From: Marshal Schoener [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 4:44 PM
To: 'Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor'; CiscoGroupstudy
Subject:RE: CBT Training Options (CCNP)
I had the one for the CCNA. I really didn't like it much...
It had some good info, but it's too slow. Too much clicking for the next
screen and stuff :-) I just can't stand the format, I would rather read a
book.
If you can't take the actual class, buy a few good books :-)
-Original Message-
From: Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 1:02 PM
To: CiscoGroupstudy
Subject: CBT Training Options (CCNP)
I've been battling it out with a local company here in San Diego to begin
night classes geared towards CCNP. But thus far they're sticking to their
day only schedule. They've instituted that e-learning program but still, if
you can't get the time off to go to their site, you also can't get the time
to sit at work and do it.
This leads me to ask if anyone knows about good CBT training that covers the
tests for CCNP?
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RE: blocking napster
Through Gauntlet and now through Proxy Servers, we are blocking by name, napster.com, and that seems to work. It has has users screaming anyway. (Always a good sign) Brad Stanfield Network Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Government Micro Resources Network Operations Control Center Bldg 33 NAVSEA NCOE 757-393-9526 -Original Message- From: Perry Lucas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 5:19 PM To: Sam Adams; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: blocking napster Sam, Napster is able to be proxied through port 80 now with the latest revisions. Simply shutting down port 6699, can't be done anymore to block it. You have to block access to their servers. Last I checked, Raptor, Pix, Gauntlet or Checkpoint didn't block napster's IP addresses directly without customization. - Original Message - From: "Sam Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 1:29 PM Subject: RE: blocking napster > Funny that you guys are trying to block napster. Any good firewall takes > care of napster in two seconds. I have a raptor sitting right here to prove > it. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > John Hardman > Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 8:14 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: blocking napster > > > Hi > > As Howard would say, "What is the problem you are trying to solve?" > > Since you are asking I will assume you are a network admin for a company and > that you want to block Napster do to... > > 1) It taking up time your employees should be using to do their work > > and > > 2) It is eating up bandwidth that your company has to pay for. > > Solutions: > > 1) Management problem. There should be a policy in place limiting the > personal use of company equipment and resources. Employees not following the > policy should be disciplined or terminated. > > 2) Allow employees to run wide and spend lots of time monitoring and trying > block activity that the company doesn't want. > > To block Napster... do a little digging with your favorite nslookup tool and > block all access to their IP ranges. > > HTH > -- > John Hardman, MCSE+I, CCNA > ArrisTech/CCS-IS SysAdmin > > > ""Dave Santeramo"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Any suggestions on how to block users of Napster? Since it uses a random > > port number I am not sure how to do this. > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > To get your own FREE ZDNet Onebox - FREE voicemail, email, and fax, > > all in one place - sign up today at http://www.zdnetonebox.com > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CLSC - Replacement Class??
BCMSN - Building Cisco MultiLayer Switched Networks replaced CLSC Brad Stanfield Network Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Government Micro Resources Network Operations Control Center Bldg 33 NAVSEA NCOE 757-393-9526 -Original Message- From: Gaines, Rhonda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 11:49 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: CLSC - Replacement Class?? I see that CLSC is no longer listed as a class. What course replaced it? I've taken ICRC a while back before it included switching. Is the CLSC switching info now included in ICND? What would be a good class to take for switching? -rhonda Rhonda Gaines, perotsystems@Owens & Minor 4800 Cox Road Glen Allen, VA 23060 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 804-965-2949 Pager: 800-PAGE-MCI PIN# 1433356 Pager: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Off Topic, was RE:How to pronounce? router
Forgive my Yankee ignorance, but do the countries listed comprise Britain? I've never figured that one out. (Primarily because I have looked it up) Thanks for allowing the intrusion. Brad Stanfield Network Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Government Micro Resources Network Operations Control Center Bldg 33 NAVSEA NCOE 757-393-9526 -Original Message- From: McCallum, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 9:59 AM To: 'Ajaz Nawaz'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How to pronounce? router Funny that because in Scotland, Ireland & Wales we all say the same as in England. OR are you another person who thinks that these countries are part of England. WRONG. -Original Message- From: Ajaz Nawaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 August 2000 14:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How to pronounce? router How should one pronounce - ROUTER In England most say - rooter I know in the US most say - rau ter Paul Borghese wrote: > In Boston it is: > >Tkaas > > In New York it is: > >"Who wants to know?" > > In New Jersey it is pronounced TACACS but you need to give not just your Username and Password but also what exit. > > In Georgia it is pronounced Tacacs but you need to add a "ya' all" to the end and the password is always peach. > > In San Francisco it is pronounced: > > Tacacs.com > > Paul Borghese > > ""Cthulu, CCIE Candidate"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 8nvemd$p0t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8nvemd$p0t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Here's the way new Texans pronounce it... > > > > > > Tacacs = 'TIE- kax" > > > > RADIUS = "Ray Dee Us" > > > > HTH, > > > > Charles > > > > > > ""Victor Jia"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > 8nvea4$noh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8nvea4$noh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Can anyone tell how to pronounce the words TACACS, RADIUS? Anywhere can I > > > find the pronounciation of all those abbreviations? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --- > > > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Good OSPF study material
Also: Designing OSPF Design Solutions Author: Thomas, Thomas M. Binding: Hardcover Publishing Date: 09/1998 Publisher: Macmillan Technical Publishing Place of Publication: Indianapolis LCCN: 98084225 ISBN: 1578700469 List Price: US$ 55.00 Brad Stanfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Norfolk Naval Shipyard Network Operations Control Center -Original Message- From: Rik Guyler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 9:38 AM To: Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail) Cc: Kevin Welch Subject: RE: Good OSPF study material Here you go (watch the wrap) http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/104/1.html#I00 Rik -Original Message- From: Kevin Welch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 7:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Good OSPF study material I was wondering if anyone could recommend some good study material for OSPF. I am currently studying for my BCSN and do not feel I have a good grasp on OSPF. Is there a book that anyone would consider to be the OSPF Bible? I searched the archives and saw one person recommended OSPF Network Design Solutions and OSPF: Anatomy of an Internet Routing Protocol seemed to get a good review on Amazon. Would anyone care to comment on these books or make other recommendations? -- Kevin ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT: Does Cisco give away training for big $ purchases?
Ditto! My site just spent 3.5 MILLION dollars on switches and 3 years prior spent 6.2 MILLION on Top of the Line routers. Cisco will give you all kinds of neat toys, (Hats, Shirts, mugs etc.) BUT no training. Both times, our purchase was part of a group order that totaled 15 mil, and 24 mil, respectively. Cisco moved away from the training provider business years back. They will highly recommend any of their training partners though. Brad Stanfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Government Micro Resources Network Operations Control Center Bldg 33 NAVSEA NCOE 757-393-9526 -Original Message- From: Lance Hubbard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 9:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Does Cisco give away training for big $ purchases? Mark, About 9 months ago, I bought $400K worth of Catalyst switches for a project. The people I was working for were one of Cisco's OLDEST and most faithful customers.I tried negociating with my Cisco Rep for a class for each member of my team, but because they entrust their customer technical training to the likes of Globalknowledge, CCTI and CCCI, he couldn't hook me up. Cisco does provide internal training classes, but because of the fact that much of the material used in them is company proprietary, they are usually paraniod about letting outsiders attend. Cheers, Lance >From: "Mark Holloway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Mark Holloway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: OT: Does Cisco give away training for big $ purchases? >Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 10:51:48 -0500 > >Has anyone here experienced Cisco giving away free training vouchers to >corporations who purchase large amounts of Cisco product? For example, at >the company I work for I'm in the process of migrating from 3Com LAN/WAN >equipment to Cisco. We spent approximately $600,000 on Cisco gear. 3 >years ago when we purchased the 3Com equipment they supplied us with >"training vouchers" for certified 3Com courses. Has anyone had this happen >with Cisco? If so, could you please list the name of your company (if you >wouldn't mind).. My local Cisco rep. will provide me with some training if >I can let him know who Cisco has done this for in the past. > >Regards, >Mark > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: BCMSN easy!
Henry, Is anything besides the BCMSN course materials required to pass this test? Thanks, Brad Stanfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Government Micro Resources Network Operations Control Center Bldg 33 NAVSEA NCOE 757-393-9526 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 1:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BCMSN easy! I just got finished with BCMSN. 66 questions in 90 minutes. At least 1/3 of the questions were very close to each other. I got an 846 out of 1000 with a 699 needed to pass. My worst section was CGMP, so know that. The sections listed on the scoring part of the test are: CGMP Cisco Fundamentals Multicast Multilayer Switching Spanning Tree Switching Interconnectivity Troubleshooting Trunking VLAN Operations. I really thought that this was an easier test then the CCNA exam. I'll answer questions to the extent that I can without breaking the NDA. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
