Re: Cert Totals
The numbers also don't include the CCDP and CCNP SNA/IP specializations or CCNP Network Management specialization.. Niall #6274 Jason Roysdon wrote: > Where are these numbers coming from? I know the CCIE numbers are published, > but I've never spotted the Cisco Career cert numbers anywhere on CCO. Is > this internal Cisco info? > > -- > Jason Roysdon, CCNA, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ > List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ > Cisco resources: http://r2cisco.artoo.net/ > > > ""John Hardman"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > 8sv4be$4ec$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8sv4be$4ec$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > >> Hi >> >> I spotted this on the alt.certification.cisco list this AM and thought I >> would forward it here since the question has been asked s many times. > > In > >> a follow up post asking where he got these figures, his reply was from his >> network academy instructor. >> >> "Lou Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >> news:4svI5.2116$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... >> >>> Thought these numbers would be of interest to some people. >>> >>> >>> BREAKDOWN BY THEATRE- Through July 2000 >>> US/CAN EMEA Asia/Pac Americas Japan Total per Cert >>> CCNA 51509 14209 15166 1040 8153 90077 >>> CCNP 4131 1954 1076 95 249 7505 >>> CCDA 7732 3823 1622 408 445 14030 >>> CCDP 1315 786 363 43 97 2604 >>> CCNA-WAN 387 112 50 29 16 594 >>> CCNP-WAN 36 21 8 9 2 76 >>> CCDP-WAN 10 9 2 2 0 23 >>> Total 65120 20914 18287 1626 8962 114,909 >>> Voice 281 137 97 13 30 558 >>> LAN ATM 118 51 70 5 1 245 >>> Security 156 136 41 5 11 349 >>> Total 555 324 208 23 42 1152 >>> >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> -= >> >>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >>>Cisco Career Certification Monthly Statistics >>> Oct-99 Nov-99 Dec-99 Jan-00 Feb-00 Mar-00 Apr-00 May-00 Jun-00 >>> Jul-00 >>> CCNA 22960 29007 35071 39484 44589 50790 56737 64634 73231 90077 >>> CCNP 1475 1830 2272 2658 3128 3598 4331 5024 5960 7505 >>> CCDA 6152 6765 7464 8120 8905 9764 10539 11609 12724 14030 >>> CCDP 651 784 939 1080 1237 1416 1595 1870 2180 2604 >>> CCNA-WAN 192 216 251 287 328 360 428 528 551 594 >>> CCNP-WAN 13 17 26 29 34 37 49 54 62 76 >>> CCDP-WAN 4 5 5 7 11 14 16 18 20 23 >>> Total 31,447 38,624 46,028 51,665 58,232 65,979 73,695 83,737 >> > 94,728 > >>> 114,909 >>> Specialization >>> CCNP-LAN ATM 61 73 81 91 109 127 144 172 200 246 >>> CCNP-Voice 89 120 138 163 209 264 304 393 458 557 >>> CCNP-Security 66 81 92 102 131 162 184 274 316 383 >>> CCNP-Net. Mgmt 1 3 4 7 7 8 9 10 11 15 >>> Total 217 277 315 363 456 561 641 849 985 1201 >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> John Hardman, CCNP MCSE+I >> >> >> >> >> >> _ >> FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > >> Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- "The destiny of Man is to unite, not to divide. If you keep on dividing you end up as a collection of monkeys throwing nuts at each other out of separate trees." - T.H. White "The Once and Future King" _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exam 350-001, I'm so pissed!
I have to agree with Chuck on this matter. The survey IS NOT / CAN'T BE an influence on your score. The cisco exams are not even "adaptive" like the Novell exams. The questions are pulled from a pool established by evaluating the beta exam results and a certain number of questions are pulled for each subsection of the exam. There really would be no point to making the exam difficulty relative to survey responses. If Cisco did that, the exams would be WORTHLESS, allowing you to sandbag them by answering that you are a complete novice. What is the CCIE written supposed to do ? Fill out the survey that you have 2 weeks experience and it'll give you CCNA-level questions instead of asking about obscure details of token ring? The difficulty level of the exam is a constant, not a variable. Niall Brian wrote: > I agree that hard work and studying is the only way to truley accomplish > certification and be worth your weight. I do want to re-iterate though > that the questionairre does in fact play a part in scoring your test, and > if nothing else, you should answer it honestly (in other words, don't get > saying you have advanced experience in every single subject, and are a > jedi knight of the internet then expect an easy scoring). > > some people may not pay attention to the questionairre and pencil wip it, > which may prove to be a bad idea. > > I feel "exam crams" should only be used for those who already have a solid > foundation of the subject at hand, and just need to be refreshed as to > what topics and key items may be on the test. > > Personally i think ciscopress books are among the best for any of these > tests, but they are avoided often because they go very much in depth and > can be quite long (usually 600-800 pages). People get turned off, and > they go an easier route. Don't get me wrong, alot of other companies make > great booksall I am saying is reading a "routing exam > cram" that is 150-200 pages, vs. Routing TCP/IP which is 800 > pages..something gets lost there, and it may prove to be > essential information down the road. > > Brian > > On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, Nigel Taylor wrote: > > > Hey, > > I don't suppose anyone is planning on going to take the > > lab anticipating that they > > become a *CCIE* by merely how well they complete the survey... > > > > OOPS..!! No, survey.. When taking the lab.. Does any of our > > resident(studygroup) CCIE's > > care to comment. > > > > Enough already.. > > Nigel > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; shanseverijn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 6:40 AM > > Subject: RE: Exam 350-001, I'm so pissed! > > > > > > > Let's see I answered the quiz at the beginning of the CID exam, and > > > failed. I went home, studied those parts where my scores were very low, > > came > > > back a week later, answered the survey the same way, and passed with miles > > > to spare. Yeah, I guess Cisco was gunning for me the first time, and > > somehow > > > they failed to notice second time. > > > > > > Hey gang, it ain't the survey. > > > > > > Chuck > > > Snapping my fingers to keep the elephants away. It must work because there > > > aren't any elephant around these parts. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > > > Brian > > > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 8:43 PM > > > To: shanseverijn > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: Exam 350-001, I'm so pissed! > > > > > > > > > shannon, > > > > > > you bring up a good point. All the cisco tests make you take the > > > questionairre in the beginning (as you of course know), and a disclaimer > > > says that your final score will depend on how you answer that > > > questionaire. I am curious to as to what effect the questionaire has on > > > the actual score and how it is calculated. > > > > > > On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, shanseverijn wrote: > > > > > > > I just want to say for the record that this exam is a bunch of B.S. > > All > > > > you tell you why. I took this test like a cuople weeks after I finished > > > my > > > > CCNP/CCDP just to see where I stand and what I need to hit for this > > thing. > > > > Let me say that the CCIE exam 350-001 is highly overraded. So I scored > > a > > > > modest 60% the first time. Not bad for not really studying and just > > going > > > > off of experience and Theory. The problem I have is after studying for > > > what > > > > I needed and knowing that I was going to tear this test a new A-hole I > > > went > > > > in took the test and did everything the same except in the questionaire > > > > that I filled out I marked that I was proficient in alot more areas than > > I > > > > did the first time. The result well after blazing through the test in > > an > > > > hour and feeling DAMN confident that I got at least a 90% on
Re: IP Telephony Specialization
By necessary I meant I'm not an MCSE and I've successfully installed Call Manager. MCSE Required by Cisco yes, necessary to do the work no. Niall Kevin Wigle wrote: > It is necessary as the matrix clearly states "At least one CCNA must be a > Microsoft Certified System Engineer on Win 2000". This is for a Partner > specialization in IP Telephony - not the individual spec (CCNP - Voice) > > Thanks to you and other posters. I wasn't aware that CCM was running on > NT - explains it I guess. > > I open my handy dandy Product Quick Ref and sure enough - pre-installed on > Windows NT servers. I'm not sure that a MCSE is required for this task, > probably just Win 2000 server would suffice but what the hey! I guess I'm > not through with my M$ certs after all. > > This subject came up while I was enquiring to details on becoming a Premier > Partner (currently just a plain ol' reseller). Cisco phones me up with some > details and asks me if I had given IP Tel any thought - they would be > "thrilled" if I would consider qualifying as an IP Tel Partner, it seems > that there are only 2 in Canada and those names aren't recognizable. > > Thanks again to the group for the quick info. > > Kevin Wigle > CCDP/CCNP.. > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Kevin Wigle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cisco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, 23 August, 2000 19:08 > Subject: Re: IP Telephony Specialization > > > Installation of Call Manager which runs on NT/2000. I really don't think > it is > > "necessary" except that cisco wants to ensure at least a basic level of > > NT/2000 skills. > > > > Niall > > > > Kevin Wigle wrote: > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > At http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/767/spcl/iptel/req.html > > > > > > one of the CCNAs has to be MCSE 2000. > > > > > > Can anyone say how the Microsoft cert fits into IP Telephony? > > > > > > I might have thought for IPSec and maybe VPN but I'm not up on how > Win2000 > > > relates to IP Tel. > > > > > > I'm a MCSE 3.51/4.0 so I'll probably do the 2000 thing but I was hoping > to > > > forego further M$ certs and carry on with more Cisco stuff. > > > > > > Any ideas on why Cisco wants you to have a M$ cert?? > > > > > > Kevin Wigle > > > CCDP/CCNP/CSE/MCSE/CBE/CBI <- just too many to keep.. > > > > > > ___ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > > Some of my best information on tuning EIGRP came from colleagues, > > both native and US military, in the former Yugoslavia. They pointed > > out how to tune around error rates caused by gunfire hitting the > > telephone lines. > > > > - Howard Berkowitz on Groupstudy 3/13/2000 -- Some of my best information on tuning EIGRP came from colleagues, both native and US military, in the former Yugoslavia. They pointed out how to tune around error rates caused by gunfire hitting the telephone lines. - Howard Berkowitz on Groupstudy 3/13/2000 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IP Telephony Specialization
Installation of Call Manager which runs on NT/2000. I really don't think it is "necessary" except that cisco wants to ensure at least a basic level of NT/2000 skills. Niall Kevin Wigle wrote: > Dear Group, > > At http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/767/spcl/iptel/req.html > > one of the CCNAs has to be MCSE 2000. > > Can anyone say how the Microsoft cert fits into IP Telephony? > > I might have thought for IPSec and maybe VPN but I'm not up on how Win2000 > relates to IP Tel. > > I'm a MCSE 3.51/4.0 so I'll probably do the 2000 thing but I was hoping to > forego further M$ certs and carry on with more Cisco stuff. > > Any ideas on why Cisco wants you to have a M$ cert?? > > Kevin Wigle > CCDP/CCNP/CSE/MCSE/CBE/CBI <- just too many to keep.. > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Some of my best information on tuning EIGRP came from colleagues, both native and US military, in the former Yugoslavia. They pointed out how to tune around error rates caused by gunfire hitting the telephone lines. - Howard Berkowitz on Groupstudy 3/13/2000 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SNA & CISCO Certification
Yup. Took'em, passed'em. Relied upon George Sackett's Internetworking SNA book and the documentation CD as well as some AS/400 network administration that I did at a previous employer. Not incredibly tough exams, and where objectives are available they are fairly accurate. Consider using the blueprint for the CCIE SNA/IP as your guide and you will be more than prepared if you know that material. Niall Sultan of Ebla wrote: > Hello, > > Has anyone in this newsgroup went as far as getting CISCO and SNA > certification such as? > > - SNA Foundation SNAIPF EXAM 640-456 > - SNA Configuration fir Multiprotocol Administrators SNAM 12.0 EXAM 640-445 > - SNA to IP Migration SNAMI Exam 640-457 > > Please share with me your UNIQUE experience, hurdles ... > > Thank you. > > Ayman > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Some of my best information on tuning EIGRP came from colleagues, both native and US military, in the former Yugoslavia. They pointed out how to tune around error rates caused by gunfire hitting the telephone lines. - Howard Berkowitz on Groupstudy 3/13/2000 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Study Habits Part 2
No mere squid... "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wagn'nagl fhtagn." translation: In his house in R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming. That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even this really OT thread might die... "Poyerd, Denis" wrote: Foolish and ignorent are those that believe in themselves only than recognize and praise God. -Original Message- From: JL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 12:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Study Habits Part 2 Lest we become deluged by by prayers to the "Invisible Pink Unicorn" or the "Multi-Tentacled Purple Squid', not to mention many other slightly more mainstream religions, I think such chants and neditations should be left off list. I would like to think that educated, highly technical people would have no need for such mindless superstitions, but alas, I am constantly reminded that while people can be VERY intelligent in one area, they are extremely deficient in others. Can we please keep our respective religious beliefs off line and all focus on our goal of certification?thank you,JLBSOFH
CC** Specializations
I've done the SNA\IP specializations. My question is whether any other specializations are planned, particularly for CCDP ? Anyone heard any baseless rumors or maybe gossip from well-placed anonymous sources ? Niall -- Some of my best information on tuning EIGRP came from colleagues, both native and US military, in the former Yugoslavia. They pointed out how to tune around error rates caused by gunfire hitting the telephone lines. - Howard Berkowitz on Groupstudy 3/13/2000 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Paper Vs hands on
Getting experience unfortunately takes a while, and usually isn't immediately rewarding financially. I was in a position similar to yours about 5 years ago. What got me out of that was taking a grunt job in a helpdesk. No I didn't get to do anything with routers other than call Sprint and let them know circuits were down. Mostly I diagnosed server problems and talked users through printing problems. It was even a pay cut from my previous crappy job. For six months things sucked, but at the end I had a good start on my resume. I've changed jobs a few times since then, each time moving a little higher on the food chain. It can be done. Leverage your experience with PCs to get a helpdesk\entry level tech position. Don't expect to be playing with routers or even seeing them for a while. By all means keep practicing and taking tests on your own. Take advantage of any training materials that are available through your employer, even stuff that doesn't seem horribly pertinent. It will pay off if you keep at it. Take the opportunity to learn every time you answer a user call. When you place a trouble call with a carrier, make sure you find out what the problem was (even if you don't completely understand the answer) and remember what symptoms you observed so that when it happens again you can use that info to shorten the troubleshooting time. Not a dream job, but it does get you in the door and a good many positions like this should be available to to someone with your skills, even without that hard-to-acquire previous industry experience. Niall SBC Datacomm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Let's talk about this for a minute or two, just to clear something that has > been inside of me for a while, since i joined this group about a year ago I > hear lots of you say > " get experience", like it is somenthing you just go to the grocery store and > buy it, if it was like that, i would gather as much money as i could, to buy > the most i can. > Take me for example, I have been parking cars for 7 years now at $ 7.50 > an hour, > In 1997, because i wanted to improve my way of life, i started buying and > studying books, first I got my A+ cert, Then my MCP, right now i only need 2 > electives to have the MCSE, then i got my Network+, then my CCNA, from the > ccnp i passed the acrc and the cit, I bought all the cisco books for the > ccnp, the ccda,ccdp,ccie, i even took the ccie written , of course i failed, > but it is a good experience, and i think the acrc is a harder exam, but the > ccie is a more broader exam. > going back to the main topic, I started studying because nobody would > hire me because i do not have neither the knowledge nor the experience that i > needed, now I have, not all the knowledge but some, as far as the A+ goes i > feel confident, i have asembled and sold over a few years maybe 100 > computers, as far as my troubleshooting skills i feel more than good, as far > as the rest goes, i have a small network at home, not with routers, because i > cannot afford them, i have 4 workstations and 2 servers, so i practice a lot. > Since i joined this group i hear you people talking about getting > experience, about paper Vs hands on, AT first nobody hires you because you do > not have the knowledge or the experience, then somehow you manage to get some > knowledge, > but then again, this time nobody hires you because you do not have the > experience, and you people talk about it , the so much appreciated experience > , like it is so easy > to get > I have posted my resume all over, willing to start with anything, but > whoever calls, the first question is, Where have you worked before?, how long > have your worked in the industry?, as soon as I tell them my experience is > with a small network i have at home, they think for a minute or two, thet > said i call you back, but they never do. > I have spent Ks of dollars, and i am convinced that it is not worth , to > keep spending more in the sense of trying to get a better life, it is almost > impossible; in the sense of getting knowledge is a good thing to do, but up > to certain limits. > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Some of my best information on tuning EIGRP came from colleagues, both native and US military, in the former Yugoslavia. They pointed out how to tune around error rates caused by gunfire hitting the telephone lines. - Howard Berkowitz on Groupstudy 3/13/2000 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
