Re: Bitswapping Tool [7:44385]

2002-05-20 Thread Steven Ridder

Bill Parqhurst told me.


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So no token ring probably means no Source-Route Bridging?  How do you
know there is no Token Ring anymore, I find that surprising.   Is there
something that supplies what is *not* on the test?  I thought anything
was fair game except for that list on the web site that includes LANE,
LAT, AT, DECNet, etc...  Didn't see anything about Token Ring though.

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  Plus, there is no more token ring on lab.
 
 
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   Does anyone know if the CCIE lab gives you access to a bitswapping 
tool
   for converting mac addresses to canonical format?
   
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RE: Bitswapping Tool [7:44385]

2002-05-20 Thread TALBOT, WILLIAM P (SWBT)

If Bill told you that, then Bill is only *partially* correct.  Might there
be scenarios without token-ring present?  Maybe.  Might there be scenarios
with token-ring still present?  Certainly.  It is on the blueprint and as
such, is fair game.  TR has not been officially removed from the lab
requirements by Cisco.

pt

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Bill Parqhurst told me.


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So no token ring probably means no Source-Route Bridging?  How do you
know there is no Token Ring anymore, I find that surprising.   Is there
something that supplies what is *not* on the test?  I thought anything
was fair game except for that list on the web site that includes LANE,
LAT, AT, DECNet, etc...  Didn't see anything about Token Ring though.

On Sat, 2002-05-18 at 07:18, Steven A. Ridder wrote:
  Plus, there is no more token ring on lab.
 
 
  Darren S Crawford  wrote in message
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   You won't have time.  Besides nothing like would be allowed.
  
   D.
  
   At 01:49 PM 5/17/2002 -0400, Jason Greenberg wrote:
   Does anyone know if the CCIE lab gives you access to a bitswapping 
tool
   for converting mac addresses to canonical format?
   
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Re: Bitswapping Tool [7:44385]

2002-05-18 Thread Steven A. Ridder

Plus, there is no more token ring on lab.


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 You won't have time.  Besides nothing like would be allowed.

 D.

 At 01:49 PM 5/17/2002 -0400, Jason Greenberg wrote:
 Does anyone know if the CCIE lab gives you access to a bitswapping tool
 for converting mac addresses to canonical format?
 
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Re: Bitswapping Tool [7:44385]

2002-05-18 Thread Michael L. Williams

The real question is why would you need such a tool. may as well take a
subnet calculator, a Binary-decimal-Hex converter, etc.

IMHO, there should be a basic binary/hex-decimal conversion and bitswapping
quiz that one must pass just to take any Cisco exam..

Bitswapping can be done in a matter of seconds in ones head. I know
because that's how I do it... it's not rocket science

Mike W.

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 The question is why would you need to do that.  I can see that as a
question
 on the written, but I doubt the lab will require something so theoritcial.




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Re: Bitswapping Tool [7:44385]

2002-05-18 Thread Michael L. Williams

I wanted to post a followup  I didn't mean to sound like I have an
attitude, etc with my previous post...

I've just always been a big believer in learning and understanding binary
(and Hex) from the get go, especially for subnetting, bitswapping, etc..
I learned binary to decimal conversions back on the VIC-20 and C-64 when I
was learning to make graphics for games and stuff.  So I guess it comes
more natually to me.

Mike W.

Michael L. Williams  wrote in message
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 The real question is why would you need such a tool. may as well take
a
 subnet calculator, a Binary-decimal-Hex converter, etc.

 IMHO, there should be a basic binary/hex-decimal conversion and
bitswapping
 quiz that one must pass just to take any Cisco exam..

 Bitswapping can be done in a matter of seconds in ones head. I know
 because that's how I do it... it's not rocket science

 Mike W.




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Bitswapping Tool [7:44385]

2002-05-17 Thread Jason Greenberg

Does anyone know if the CCIE lab gives you access to a bitswapping tool
for converting mac addresses to canonical format?

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RE: Bitswapping Tool [7:44385]

2002-05-17 Thread Chris Charlebois

The question is why would you need to do that.  I can see that as a question
on the written, but I doubt the lab will require something so theoritcial.


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Re: Bitswapping Tool [7:44385]

2002-05-17 Thread Darren S Crawford

You won't have time.  Besides nothing like would be allowed.

D.

At 01:49 PM 5/17/2002 -0400, Jason Greenberg wrote:
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