Re: CCBOOTCAMP Labs [7:12526] [7:12711]

2001-07-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have purchased Marc's lab package and Written prep.  I have not taken
the CCIE Written or the Lab yet, but recognize the value of the materials.
 I will probably take the class that Marc offers when the time is right.
 I will also make use of Marc's labs when I need to study ATM and voice
technologies as these are a bit too costly to add to my home lab.  

Thank-you for providing such good material

-- Kevin


-- Original Message --

>Not sure why you have to refer to me as a clown. I think our reviews speak
>for themselves. See http://www.ccbootcamp.com/customer_reviews.htm
>
>My 2nd and last attempt was over three years ago just as I started this
>company and the labs didn't even exist yet. Not everyone passes on their
>1st
>or 2nd attempt. Since then I have focused my efforts in a much less
>technical role. My company now has several products, CCIE Written prep,
CCIE
>Lab Exam Study Guide, Practice lab Subscription, (5) remote racks, Vue
>testing center, and a 5-day CCIE Instructor led CCIE class with (6)
>dedicated PODs (Not the same PODs as the remote racks. Did I do this all
>myself. No, I hired the talent I needed and got the job done.
>
>Maybe you should fly out to Detroit and see our facility before you make
>judgments about us.
>
>We are also working on a CCIE security written, CCIE Security lab
>subscription, and CCIE Security remote rack.
>
>Our company is also a Premier Cisco reseller with IP/Telephony and
>VPN/Security specializations.
>
>I have a CCIE on staff and several others on contract. I have plans to
pull
>some of these contract CCIEs to our staff so we can get Cisco Gold reseller
>status.
>
>I have been too busy building a company to worry about CCIE certification
>for myself. That's what employees are for. My current role is now sales,
>product development, and corporate management.
>
>I guess I have just been clowning around the last 2 years and should just
>give all this up and get my CCIE instead  :-)   I just had to through that
>in. Joking aside, this is a professional list and you could of asked your
>question without being immature and calling me a clown.
>
>If you have questions about us please call us at 248-299-8114. I'm sure
some
>of our previous customers will respond here and give you their input.
>
>
>
>Marc Russell
>President
>Network Learning, Inc.
>www.ccbootcamp.com
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>""Yhladi Ghfaskovich""  wrote in message
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> I am looking to start my CCIE study and have done some research on
>practice
>> labs.
>> It seems that the CCBOOTCAMP labs are the best known to this list.  Why
>> would
>> you buy this lab kit from someone who hasn't passed the CCIE lab?  I
have
>> heard
>> that Marc Russell has failed the lab several times.  Doesn't this defeat
>the
>> purpose?
>> If this clown didn't pass the labs why would you go to him for study
>tools?.
>> His
>> product is also much more expensive than the other options out there.
Does
>> anyone
>> have any experience with some of the other products out there?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Yhladi Ghfaskovich
>> CCNA




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Re: CCBOOTCAMP Labs [7:12526]

2001-07-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yhladi Ghfaskovich,
at least marc has passed his written exam in order to appear for his lab.
what about u Mr.CCNA ?
Niloufer Tamboly
CCNA, CCNP

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Here here, marc
Thank You,

Donald B  Johnson Jr




- Original Message -
From: "Marc Russell" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: CCBOOTCAMP Labs [7:12526]


> Not sure why you have to refer to me as a clown. I think our reviews speak
> for themselves. See http://www.ccbootcamp.com/customer_reviews.htm
>
> My 2nd and last attempt was over three years ago just as I started this
> company and the labs didn't even exist yet. Not everyone passes on their
1st
> or 2nd attempt. Since then I have focused my efforts in a much less
> technical role. My company now has several products, CCIE Written prep,
CCIE
> Lab Exam Study Guide, Practice lab Subscription, (5) remote racks, Vue
> testing center, and a 5-day CCIE Instructor led CCIE class with (6)
> dedicated PODs (Not the same PODs as the remote racks. Did I do this all
> myself. No, I hired the talent I needed and got the job done.
>
> Maybe you should fly out to Detroit and see our facility before you make
> judgments about us.
>
> We are also working on a CCIE security written, CCIE Security lab
> subscription, and CCIE Security remote rack.
>
> Our company is also a Premier Cisco reseller with IP/Telephony and
> VPN/Security specializations.
>
> I have a CCIE on staff and several others on contract. I have plans to
pull
> some of these contract CCIEs to our staff so we can get Cisco Gold
reseller
> status.
>
> I have been too busy building a company to worry about CCIE certification
> for myself. That's what employees are for. My current role is now sales,
> product development, and corporate management.
>
> I guess I have just been clowning around the last 2 years and should just
> give all this up and get my CCIE instead  :-)   I just had to through that
> in. Joking aside, this is a professional list and you could of asked your
> question without being immature and calling me a clown.
>
> If you have questions about us please call us at 248-299-8114. I'm sure
some
> of our previous customers will respond here and give you their input.
>
>
>
> Marc Russell
> President
> Network Learning, Inc.
> www.ccbootcamp.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> ""Yhladi Ghfaskovich""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I am looking to start my CCIE study and have done some research on
> practice
> > labs.
> > It seems that the CCBOOTCAMP labs are the best known to this list.  Why
> > would
> > you buy this lab kit from someone who hasn't passed the CCIE lab?  I
have
> > heard
> > that Marc Russell has failed the lab several times.  Doesn't this defeat
> the
> > purpose?
> > If this clown didn't pass the labs why would you go to him for study
> tools?.
> > His
> > product is also much more expensive than the other options out there.
Does
> > anyone
> > have any experience with some of the other products out there?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Yhladi Ghfaskovich
> > CCNA




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Re: CCBOOTCAMP Labs [7:12526]

2001-07-17 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

Here here, marc
Thank You,

Donald B  Johnson Jr




- Original Message -
From: "Marc Russell" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: CCBOOTCAMP Labs [7:12526]


> Not sure why you have to refer to me as a clown. I think our reviews speak
> for themselves. See http://www.ccbootcamp.com/customer_reviews.htm
>
> My 2nd and last attempt was over three years ago just as I started this
> company and the labs didn't even exist yet. Not everyone passes on their
1st
> or 2nd attempt. Since then I have focused my efforts in a much less
> technical role. My company now has several products, CCIE Written prep,
CCIE
> Lab Exam Study Guide, Practice lab Subscription, (5) remote racks, Vue
> testing center, and a 5-day CCIE Instructor led CCIE class with (6)
> dedicated PODs (Not the same PODs as the remote racks. Did I do this all
> myself. No, I hired the talent I needed and got the job done.
>
> Maybe you should fly out to Detroit and see our facility before you make
> judgments about us.
>
> We are also working on a CCIE security written, CCIE Security lab
> subscription, and CCIE Security remote rack.
>
> Our company is also a Premier Cisco reseller with IP/Telephony and
> VPN/Security specializations.
>
> I have a CCIE on staff and several others on contract. I have plans to
pull
> some of these contract CCIEs to our staff so we can get Cisco Gold
reseller
> status.
>
> I have been too busy building a company to worry about CCIE certification
> for myself. That's what employees are for. My current role is now sales,
> product development, and corporate management.
>
> I guess I have just been clowning around the last 2 years and should just
> give all this up and get my CCIE instead  :-)   I just had to through that
> in. Joking aside, this is a professional list and you could of asked your
> question without being immature and calling me a clown.
>
> If you have questions about us please call us at 248-299-8114. I'm sure
some
> of our previous customers will respond here and give you their input.
>
>
>
> Marc Russell
> President
> Network Learning, Inc.
> www.ccbootcamp.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> ""Yhladi Ghfaskovich""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I am looking to start my CCIE study and have done some research on
> practice
> > labs.
> > It seems that the CCBOOTCAMP labs are the best known to this list.  Why
> > would
> > you buy this lab kit from someone who hasn't passed the CCIE lab?  I
have
> > heard
> > that Marc Russell has failed the lab several times.  Doesn't this defeat
> the
> > purpose?
> > If this clown didn't pass the labs why would you go to him for study
> tools?.
> > His
> > product is also much more expensive than the other options out there.
Does
> > anyone
> > have any experience with some of the other products out there?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Yhladi Ghfaskovich
> > CCNA




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RE: CCBOOTCAMP Labs [7:12526]

2001-07-16 Thread Chuck Larrieu

it's that frizzy multicolored hair and the seltzer bottle that's the dead
giveaway. wait - you guys are in Detroit? Well, it's the seltzer bottle,
anyway. :->

Chuck
who hates to think how badly he would have been humiliated if he had not
looked at a bootcamp lab or two

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Brad Ellis
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 8:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCBOOTCAMP Labs [7:12526]


Yhladi,

Hi!  Marc's labs are awesome!  In fact I thought they were so good, I
worked my way into the company with him (and now Im one of the owners).  The
labs were the PRIMARY tool which I used to get my CCIE certification.

Marc is EXTREMELY helpful to people that are going through their CCIE study
process (he answered quite a few of my technical questions that I had while
I was studying for the exam).  Marc did take the lab (twice) and did not
pass (he types really slow!)  :)

How many CCIE's out there did it take more than (2) attempts to pass the
lab?  (Im sure quite a few...not to mention, he didnt have any practice labs
to use!)  Could he pass the exam if he started to study again?  I would
have to say definitely.  Does he NEED to have a CCIE #?  I would answer
definitely NOT.  He is in a sales/managerial role now, while he's got me and
a few others for the "techie" stuff!  (Is John Chambers a CCIE???)

As far as being a "clown", I havent seen him wearing big goofy shoes or a
red ball for a nose...at least not lately!

-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.ccbootcamp.com

""Yhladi Ghfaskovich""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am looking to start my CCIE study and have done some research on
practice
> labs.
> It seems that the CCBOOTCAMP labs are the best known to this list.  Why
> would
> you buy this lab kit from someone who hasn't passed the CCIE lab?  I have
> heard
> that Marc Russell has failed the lab several times.  Doesn't this defeat
the
> purpose?
> If this clown didn't pass the labs why would you go to him for study
tools?.
> His
> product is also much more expensive than the other options out there. Does
> anyone
> have any experience with some of the other products out there?
>
> Thank you,
> Yhladi Ghfaskovich
> CCNA




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Re: CCBOOTCAMP Labs [7:12526]

2001-07-16 Thread Marc Russell

Not sure why you have to refer to me as a clown. I think our reviews speak
for themselves. See http://www.ccbootcamp.com/customer_reviews.htm

My 2nd and last attempt was over three years ago just as I started this
company and the labs didn't even exist yet. Not everyone passes on their 1st
or 2nd attempt. Since then I have focused my efforts in a much less
technical role. My company now has several products, CCIE Written prep, CCIE
Lab Exam Study Guide, Practice lab Subscription, (5) remote racks, Vue
testing center, and a 5-day CCIE Instructor led CCIE class with (6)
dedicated PODs (Not the same PODs as the remote racks. Did I do this all
myself. No, I hired the talent I needed and got the job done.

Maybe you should fly out to Detroit and see our facility before you make
judgments about us.

We are also working on a CCIE security written, CCIE Security lab
subscription, and CCIE Security remote rack.

Our company is also a Premier Cisco reseller with IP/Telephony and
VPN/Security specializations.

I have a CCIE on staff and several others on contract. I have plans to pull
some of these contract CCIEs to our staff so we can get Cisco Gold reseller
status.

I have been too busy building a company to worry about CCIE certification
for myself. That's what employees are for. My current role is now sales,
product development, and corporate management.

I guess I have just been clowning around the last 2 years and should just
give all this up and get my CCIE instead  :-)   I just had to through that
in. Joking aside, this is a professional list and you could of asked your
question without being immature and calling me a clown.

If you have questions about us please call us at 248-299-8114. I'm sure some
of our previous customers will respond here and give you their input.



Marc Russell
President
Network Learning, Inc.
www.ccbootcamp.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



""Yhladi Ghfaskovich""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am looking to start my CCIE study and have done some research on
practice
> labs.
> It seems that the CCBOOTCAMP labs are the best known to this list.  Why
> would
> you buy this lab kit from someone who hasn't passed the CCIE lab?  I have
> heard
> that Marc Russell has failed the lab several times.  Doesn't this defeat
the
> purpose?
> If this clown didn't pass the labs why would you go to him for study
tools?.
> His
> product is also much more expensive than the other options out there. Does
> anyone
> have any experience with some of the other products out there?
>
> Thank you,
> Yhladi Ghfaskovich
> CCNA




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Re: CCBOOTCAMP Labs [7:12526]

2001-07-16 Thread Brad Ellis

Yhladi,

Hi!  Marc's labs are awesome!  In fact I thought they were so good, I
worked my way into the company with him (and now Im one of the owners).  The
labs were the PRIMARY tool which I used to get my CCIE certification.

Marc is EXTREMELY helpful to people that are going through their CCIE study
process (he answered quite a few of my technical questions that I had while
I was studying for the exam).  Marc did take the lab (twice) and did not
pass (he types really slow!)  :)

How many CCIE's out there did it take more than (2) attempts to pass the
lab?  (Im sure quite a few...not to mention, he didnt have any practice labs
to use!)  Could he pass the exam if he started to study again?  I would
have to say definitely.  Does he NEED to have a CCIE #?  I would answer
definitely NOT.  He is in a sales/managerial role now, while he's got me and
a few others for the "techie" stuff!  (Is John Chambers a CCIE???)

As far as being a "clown", I havent seen him wearing big goofy shoes or a
red ball for a nose...at least not lately!

-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.ccbootcamp.com

""Yhladi Ghfaskovich""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am looking to start my CCIE study and have done some research on
practice
> labs.
> It seems that the CCBOOTCAMP labs are the best known to this list.  Why
> would
> you buy this lab kit from someone who hasn't passed the CCIE lab?  I have
> heard
> that Marc Russell has failed the lab several times.  Doesn't this defeat
the
> purpose?
> If this clown didn't pass the labs why would you go to him for study
tools?.
> His
> product is also much more expensive than the other options out there. Does
> anyone
> have any experience with some of the other products out there?
>
> Thank you,
> Yhladi Ghfaskovich
> CCNA




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Re: CCBOOTCAMP Labs [7:12526]

2001-07-16 Thread Darren S. Crawford

A colleague of mine passed back in March (first try no less) and said that
they are by far the best aid out there.  He says, "If you can get through
their scenarios in a reasonable amount of time you're set!"  

HTH

Darren

At 03:06 PM 7/16/2001 -0400, Yhladi Ghfaskovich wrote:
>I am looking to start my CCIE study and have done some research on practice
>labs.
>It seems that the CCBOOTCAMP labs are the best known to this list.  Why
>would
>you buy this lab kit from someone who hasn't passed the CCIE lab?  I have
>heard
>that Marc Russell has failed the lab several times.  Doesn't this defeat the
>purpose?
>If this clown didn't pass the labs why would you go to him for study tools?.
>His
>product is also much more expensive than the other options out there. Does
>anyone
>have any experience with some of the other products out there?
>
>Thank you,
>Yhladi Ghfaskovich
>CCNA
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Re: CCBOOTCAMP Labs [7:12526]

2001-07-16 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

maybe they don't want to pass.
Then they couldn't go anymore, if you know what I mean.
Do you know what I mean.
how are you doin?
Waas up



- Original Message -
From: "Raul F. Fernandez-IGLOU" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: CCBOOTCAMP Labs [7:12526]


> The labs in my humble opinion are good. I use them. They make you think
and
> are excellent material to help in the pursuit of the CCIE. Like everyhting
> else, these labs are just tools and these tools will only get you so far.
A
> combination of reading, a lot of configuration(hands on) and
> troubleshooting(hands on) and a little luck are keys. If I were you
though,
> I would worry about passing the CCIE written first. Anyway, why call him a
> clown? I dont know the guy personally but you should be a bit more polite.
>
> Raul
> - Original Message -
> From: "Yhladi Ghfaskovich"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 3:06 PM
> Subject: CCBOOTCAMP Labs [7:12526]
>
>
> > I am looking to start my CCIE study and have done some research on
> practice
> > labs.
> > It seems that the CCBOOTCAMP labs are the best known to this list.  Why
> > would
> > you buy this lab kit from someone who hasn't passed the CCIE lab?  I
have
> > heard
> > that Marc Russell has failed the lab several times.  Doesn't this defeat
> the
> > purpose?
> > If this clown didn't pass the labs why would you go to him for study
> tools?.
> > His
> > product is also much more expensive than the other options out there.
Does
> > anyone
> > have any experience with some of the other products out there?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Yhladi Ghfaskovich
> > CCNA




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Re: CCBOOTCAMP Labs [7:12526]

2001-07-16 Thread Kevin Wigle

The labs are a collaborative effort and they do have at least one CCIE on
board.

You have "heard" that Marc Russell hasn't passed the labs several times.  If
I tell you to buy Cisco stock right now are you going to do that?

I don't know, your post seems to be just an excuse to start a flame war.

That's not needed here.

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: "Yhladi Ghfaskovich" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, 16 July, 2001 15:06
Subject: CCBOOTCAMP Labs [7:12526]


> I am looking to start my CCIE study and have done some research on
practice
> labs.
> It seems that the CCBOOTCAMP labs are the best known to this list.  Why
> would
> you buy this lab kit from someone who hasn't passed the CCIE lab?  I have
> heard
> that Marc Russell has failed the lab several times.  Doesn't this defeat
the
> purpose?
> If this clown didn't pass the labs why would you go to him for study
tools?.
> His
> product is also much more expensive than the other options out there. Does
> anyone
> have any experience with some of the other products out there?
>
> Thank you,
> Yhladi Ghfaskovich
> CCNA




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Re: CCBOOTCAMP Labs [7:12526]

2001-07-16 Thread John Neiberger

I've have heard that the ccbootcamp labs are the hardest and most
complete labs available, which justifies the high price tag.  Whether
that's absolutely true or not, many people use them and feel that they
are great tools to prepare for the lab.

And you should refrain from calling people clowns on this list.  I
believe that Marc participates on the groupstudy list, or at least reads
it, and at least a few of his friends and associates actively
participate on the list.  Calling him a clown doesn't make you look very
good in this environment.  ;-)

Actually, I am getting the wiff of a trollI'm not sure, my sinuses
are a little stuffed up today, but I'd swear I can smell it

John

>>> "Yhladi Ghfaskovich"  7/16/01
1:06:45 PM >>>
I am looking to start my CCIE study and have done some research on
practice
labs.
It seems that the CCBOOTCAMP labs are the best known to this list. 
Why
would
you buy this lab kit from someone who hasn't passed the CCIE lab?  I
have
heard
that Marc Russell has failed the lab several times.  Doesn't this
defeat the
purpose?
If this clown didn't pass the labs why would you go to him for study
tools?.
His
product is also much more expensive than the other options out there.
Does
anyone
have any experience with some of the other products out there?

Thank you,
Yhladi Ghfaskovich
CCNA




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Re: CCBOOTCAMP Labs [7:12526]

2001-07-16 Thread Raul F. Fernandez-IGLOU

The labs in my humble opinion are good. I use them. They make you think and
are excellent material to help in the pursuit of the CCIE. Like everyhting
else, these labs are just tools and these tools will only get you so far. A
combination of reading, a lot of configuration(hands on) and
troubleshooting(hands on) and a little luck are keys. If I were you though,
I would worry about passing the CCIE written first. Anyway, why call him a
clown? I dont know the guy personally but you should be a bit more polite.

Raul
- Original Message -
From: "Yhladi Ghfaskovich" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 3:06 PM
Subject: CCBOOTCAMP Labs [7:12526]


> I am looking to start my CCIE study and have done some research on
practice
> labs.
> It seems that the CCBOOTCAMP labs are the best known to this list.  Why
> would
> you buy this lab kit from someone who hasn't passed the CCIE lab?  I have
> heard
> that Marc Russell has failed the lab several times.  Doesn't this defeat
the
> purpose?
> If this clown didn't pass the labs why would you go to him for study
tools?.
> His
> product is also much more expensive than the other options out there. Does
> anyone
> have any experience with some of the other products out there?
>
> Thank you,
> Yhladi Ghfaskovich
> CCNA




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CCBOOTCAMP Labs [7:12526]

2001-07-16 Thread Yhladi Ghfaskovich

I am looking to start my CCIE study and have done some research on practice
labs.
It seems that the CCBOOTCAMP labs are the best known to this list.  Why
would
you buy this lab kit from someone who hasn't passed the CCIE lab?  I have
heard
that Marc Russell has failed the lab several times.  Doesn't this defeat the
purpose?
If this clown didn't pass the labs why would you go to him for study tools?.
His
product is also much more expensive than the other options out there. Does
anyone
have any experience with some of the other products out there?

Thank you,
Yhladi Ghfaskovich
CCNA




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