Re: CCIE Written ...really dumb Q`s [7:3161]

2001-05-05 Thread Jason Roysdon

I'm no Novell/IPX wizard, but I was troubleshooting some broadcast storms
Friday.  Both routers and servers were broadcasting Novell SAPs.  Digging
further:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/111/3.html

"Prior to software releases 9.1(13) 9.17(11) 9.14(9) 9.21(5) 10.0(5), a
Cisco router had a default GNS delay of 500 ms. The default GNS delay for
any later release is 0 ms. If you find you need a delay as discussed below,
use the command ipx gns-response-delay to add an apropriate delay. Sh ipx
int will show you the configured GNS delay for a particular interface."

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""Vincent Chong""  wrote in message
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> Hi;
>
> 1) 7500 series for big enterprise
> 3600 is suitable for small enterprise or branch.
> You pick one.
>
> 2) Router will not broadcast SAP table.  Router rather matintain their
> own sap table.
> If the sap client could not find the sever in the local segment,
the
> sap client will forward the request the
> to the router, the router will forward the request to the nearest
> Novell Server maintained in the sap table.
> Read ICRC or ACRC have more detail.
>
> HTH
> Vincent Chong
>
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> >
> > Q1
> > out fo these routers which is best in enterprsie
> > 3600,7500,1 ?..
> >
> > Q2
> > if a routers gets a GNS request what will it do
> >
> > a ignore it
> > b pass to next sever on segment
> > c pass to nearest server
> >
> > Q1 1
> > Q2 c
> >
> > am i right ...i can`t think panic button has been
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> > thanks
> >
> > steve
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Re: CCIE Written ...really dumb Q`s [7:3161]

2001-05-04 Thread JZ

> "If a Netware server is located on the segment, it will respond to the
> client request. The Cisco router will not respond to the GNS request. If
> there are no NetWare servers on the local network, the Cisco router can be
> configured to forward the GNS SAP to an appropriate remote NetWare
server."

Here is a trouble shooting technical information from Novell
http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/13662.htm
"By default, Cisco routers will respond to a GNS packet if they sense that
no file servers are on the same segment as the workstation requesting
GNS", -- not forward.
Router will not forward GNS, it will reply it or igore it. From the three
possible answers, I would still like to pick up (a) as the best answer,
because router will igore the GNS in some cases, but will never forward GNS.

James




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RE: CCIE Written ...really dumb Q`s [7:3161]

2001-05-04 Thread Kim Edward B

Thank you Chuck.

Edward

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Here's the answer from the ICRC coursebook:

"If a Netware server is located on the segment, it will respond to the  
client request. The Cisco router will not respond to the GNS request. If 
there are no NetWare servers on the local network, the Cisco router can be 
configured to forward the GNS SAP to an appropriate remote NetWare server."



[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Kim Edward B") wrote in
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>I think 
>
>Router will look up in his SAP table and if he knows any server, he will
>forward the GNS to the server he knows.
>
>Edward
>
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>[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("JZ") wrote in :
>
>>> Q2
>>> if a routers gets a GNS request what will it do
>>> 
>>> a ignore it
>>> b pass to next sever on segment
>>> c pass to nearest server
>> 
>> To me, the best one would be (a). because the router will do one of
>> the two things when it gets GNS -- ignore it, or reply to it. It will
>> never pass the GNS to anyone else.
>> 
>> James
>
>There should be an answer (D) none of the above.
>The router will not pass a GNS to anyone else, instead, it will send a
>reply 
>
>with information about the nearest server.
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RE: CCIE Written ...really dumb Q`s [7:3161]

2001-05-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chuck Ryan)

Here's the answer from the ICRC coursebook:

"If a Netware server is located on the segment, it will respond to the  
client request. The Cisco router will not respond to the GNS request. If 
there are no NetWare servers on the local network, the Cisco router can be 
configured to forward the GNS SAP to an appropriate remote NetWare server."



[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Kim Edward B") wrote in
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>I think 
>
>Router will look up in his SAP table and if he knows any server, he will
>forward the GNS to the server he knows.
>
>Edward
>
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>Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 8:37 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: CCIE Written ...really dumb Q`s [7:3161]
>
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("JZ") wrote in :
>
>>> Q2
>>> if a routers gets a GNS request what will it do
>>> 
>>> a ignore it
>>> b pass to next sever on segment
>>> c pass to nearest server
>> 
>> To me, the best one would be (a). because the router will do one of
>> the two things when it gets GNS -- ignore it, or reply to it. It will
>> never pass the GNS to anyone else.
>> 
>> James
>
>There should be an answer (D) none of the above.
>The router will not pass a GNS to anyone else, instead, it will send a
>reply 
>
>with information about the nearest server.




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RE: CCIE Written ...really dumb Q`s [7:3161]

2001-05-04 Thread Kim Edward B

I think 

Router will look up in his SAP table and if he knows any server, he will
forward the GNS to the server he knows.

Edward

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("JZ") wrote in :

>> Q2
>> if a routers gets a GNS request what will it do
>> 
>> a ignore it
>> b pass to next sever on segment
>> c pass to nearest server
>
>To me, the best one would be (a). because the router will do one of the
>two things when it gets GNS -- ignore it, or reply to it. It will never
>pass the GNS to anyone else.
>
>James

There should be an answer (D) none of the above.
The router will not pass a GNS to anyone else, instead, it will send a reply

with information about the nearest server.
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Re: CCIE Written ...really dumb Q`s [7:3161]

2001-05-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chuck Ryan)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("JZ") wrote in :

>> Q2
>> if a routers gets a GNS request what will it do
>> 
>> a ignore it
>> b pass to next sever on segment
>> c pass to nearest server
>
>To me, the best one would be (a). because the router will do one of the
>two things when it gets GNS -- ignore it, or reply to it. It will never
>pass the GNS to anyone else.
>
>James

There should be an answer (D) none of the above.
The router will not pass a GNS to anyone else, instead, it will send a reply 
with information about the nearest server.




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Re: CCIE Written ...really dumb Q`s [7:3161]

2001-05-04 Thread JZ

> Q2
> if a routers gets a GNS request what will it do
>
> a ignore it
> b pass to next sever on segment
> c pass to nearest server

To me, the best one would be (a). because the router will do one of the two
things when it gets GNS -- ignore it, or reply to it. It will never pass the
GNS to anyone else.

James




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Re: CCIE Written ...really dumb Q`s [7:3161]

2001-05-04 Thread Vincent Chong

Hi;

1) 7500 series for big enterprise
3600 is suitable for small enterprise or branch.
You pick one.

2) Router will not broadcast SAP table.  Router rather matintain their
own sap table.
If the sap client could not find the sever in the local segment, the
sap client will forward the request the
to the router, the router will forward the request to the nearest
Novell Server maintained in the sap table.
Read ICRC or ACRC have more detail.

HTH
Vincent Chong

  Memo from Steve Skinner of PricewaterhouseCoopers
>
>  Start of message text 
>
> sorry ,
>
> my brain has turned to mush...pleae help
>
> Q1
> out fo these routers which is best in enterprsie
> 3600,7500,1 ?..
>
> Q2
> if a routers gets a GNS request what will it do
>
> a ignore it
> b pass to next sever on segment
> c pass to nearest server
>
> Q1 1
> Q2 c
>
> am i right ...i can`t think panic button has been
> pressed...unable to sleep
>
> thanks
>
> steve
>
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CCIE Written ...really dumb Q`s [7:3161]

2001-05-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Memo from Steve Skinner of PricewaterhouseCoopers

 Start of message text 

sorry ,

my brain has turned to mush...pleae help

Q1
out fo these routers which is best in enterprsie
3600,7500,1 ?..

Q2
if a routers gets a GNS request what will it do

a ignore it
b pass to next sever on segment
c pass to nearest server

Q1 1
Q2 c

am i right ...i can`t think panic button has been
pressed...unable to sleep

thanks

steve

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