RE: CCIE Written tomorrow. [7:830]
That thing is so full of errors it's not even funny. If you study that paper you will surely fail any token questions. Mike Bambic Lead Mentor Phoenix Branch 602-955-5888 Cisco Regional Business Development Manager TechSkills www.techskills.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tolanid Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 6:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Written tomorrow. [7:830] my recommendation again for the token ring stuff - only one document to understand the RIFs (even though there are other good ones) - Token Ring white paper from Lou Rossi. Here is the link where you can find the white paper http://www.ccprep.com/resources/news/archives/Token_Ring2.pdf. Enjoy Raj "Jason J. Roysdon" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I hear this and other TR questions oddly still comprise a large section of the test, so be prepared. It's what I spent this weekend starting to learn about. Bleh, I hate old/dead technology that no one I know uses. I'm just glad it's off the lab. I think it's time to purchase or find a good Token Ring overview book. I've read a lot of current docs from Cisco's site, but nothing that really goes back to the beginning and gives a good foundation and good examples to make all this stuff stick in my head. I know a lot of it is just going to be re-reading the docs and definitions a few times until it just sinks in, but often I can find books that do a better job of describing a subject and it speeds the process along. Any recommendations? -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ ""Tolanid"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Focus on RIFs - how RSRB treats RIFs versus how DLSW treats it. Raj "Michael Snyder" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Don't worry about LANE, WORRY about Token RIFS, and the difference in modes of bridging it. What is 0xEOEO vs 0x8137? ""Michael Bambic"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Well after teaching CCNA for the last 18 months for the Cisco Networking Academy, then taking the CCNP tests in February and CID in March I am now ready to take the CCIE Written (I HOPE) and plan to take the test tomorrow. I appreciate everyone's help with any questions I had and look forward to the next step in my IT career. I'll let you all know tomorrow what happens, any last minute info would be great. I plan to review ATM LANE components and processes tonight along with basic token ring info. Mike Bambic Lead Mentor Phoenix Branch 602-955-5888 Cisco Regional Business Development Manager TechSkills www.techskills.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=912t=830 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Written tomorrow. [7:830]
Page 1: Token ring is a physical ring and logical bus - it's a physical star and a logical ring. Page 5: A value of "A" for length means 3 bridges. "A" would mean 5 bridge/ring combos. After reading those 2 very basic things I quit reading and went back to my books/Cisco site. Mike Bambic Lead Mentor Phoenix Branch 602-955-5888 Cisco Regional Business Development Manager TechSkills www.techskills.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Tim O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 9:39 AM To: Michael Bambic Subject: Re: CCIE Written tomorrow. [7:830] Are you kiddin? I read that thing twice as my sole source of Token Ring and RIF study and got a 90% on that section of the CCIE Written. What did you find that was in error? Tim - Original Message - From: "Michael Bambic" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 11:14 AM Subject: RE: CCIE Written tomorrow. [7:830] That thing is so full of errors it's not even funny. If you study that paper you will surely fail any token questions. Mike Bambic Lead Mentor Phoenix Branch 602-955-5888 Cisco Regional Business Development Manager TechSkills www.techskills.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tolanid Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 6:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Written tomorrow. [7:830] my recommendation again for the token ring stuff - only one document to understand the RIFs (even though there are other good ones) - Token Ring white paper from Lou Rossi. Here is the link where you can find the white paper http://www.ccprep.com/resources/news/archives/Token_Ring2.pdf. Enjoy Raj "Jason J. Roysdon" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I hear this and other TR questions oddly still comprise a large section of the test, so be prepared. It's what I spent this weekend starting to learn about. Bleh, I hate old/dead technology that no one I know uses. I'm just glad it's off the lab. I think it's time to purchase or find a good Token Ring overview book. I've read a lot of current docs from Cisco's site, but nothing that really goes back to the beginning and gives a good foundation and good examples to make all this stuff stick in my head. I know a lot of it is just going to be re-reading the docs and definitions a few times until it just sinks in, but often I can find books that do a better job of describing a subject and it speeds the process along. Any recommendations? -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ ""Tolanid"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Focus on RIFs - how RSRB treats RIFs versus how DLSW treats it. Raj "Michael Snyder" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Don't worry about LANE, WORRY about Token RIFS, and the difference in modes of bridging it. What is 0xEOEO vs 0x8137? ""Michael Bambic"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Well after teaching CCNA for the last 18 months for the Cisco Networking Academy, then taking the CCNP tests in February and CID in March I am now ready to take the CCIE Written (I HOPE) and plan to take the test tomorrow. I appreciate everyone's help with any questions I had and look forward to the next step in my IT career. I'll let you all know tomorrow what happens, any last minute info would be great. I plan to review ATM LANE components and processes tonight along with basic token ring info. Mike Bambic Lead Mentor Phoenix Branch 602-955-5888 Cisco Regional Business Development Manager TechSkills www.techskills.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report mis
CCIE Written tomorrow. [7:830]
Well after teaching CCNA for the last 18 months for the Cisco Networking Academy, then taking the CCNP tests in February and CID in March I am now ready to take the CCIE Written (I HOPE) and plan to take the test tomorrow. I appreciate everyone's help with any questions I had and look forward to the next step in my IT career. I'll let you all know tomorrow what happens, any last minute info would be great. I plan to review ATM LANE components and processes tonight along with basic token ring info. Mike Bambic Lead Mentor Phoenix Branch 602-955-5888 Cisco Regional Business Development Manager TechSkills www.techskills.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=830t=830 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Written tomorrow. [7:830]
Don't worry about LANE, WORRY about Token RIFS, and the difference in modes of bridging it. What is 0xEOEO vs 0x8137? ""Michael Bambic"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Well after teaching CCNA for the last 18 months for the Cisco Networking Academy, then taking the CCNP tests in February and CID in March I am now ready to take the CCIE Written (I HOPE) and plan to take the test tomorrow. I appreciate everyone's help with any questions I had and look forward to the next step in my IT career. I'll let you all know tomorrow what happens, any last minute info would be great. I plan to review ATM LANE components and processes tonight along with basic token ring info. Mike Bambic Lead Mentor Phoenix Branch 602-955-5888 Cisco Regional Business Development Manager TechSkills www.techskills.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=832t=830 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Written tomorrow. [7:830]
Focus on RIFs - how RSRB treats RIFs versus how DLSW treats it. Raj "Michael Snyder" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Don't worry about LANE, WORRY about Token RIFS, and the difference in modes of bridging it. What is 0xEOEO vs 0x8137? ""Michael Bambic"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Well after teaching CCNA for the last 18 months for the Cisco Networking Academy, then taking the CCNP tests in February and CID in March I am now ready to take the CCIE Written (I HOPE) and plan to take the test tomorrow. I appreciate everyone's help with any questions I had and look forward to the next step in my IT career. I'll let you all know tomorrow what happens, any last minute info would be great. I plan to review ATM LANE components and processes tonight along with basic token ring info. Mike Bambic Lead Mentor Phoenix Branch 602-955-5888 Cisco Regional Business Development Manager TechSkills www.techskills.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=838t=830 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Written tomorrow. [7:830]
What the two numbers have in common is Novell IPX. 0x8137 is the Ethernet protocol TYPE number for Novell IPX, from RFC 1700 (some sources indicate 0x8137 is obsolete and 0x8138 should be used). It appears somewhat regularly in Cisco training material. IEEE 802.3 has a LENGTH field instead of TYPE, but this number could also appear in the IEEE 802.3 TYPE field in a 802.2 SNAP header. 0xE0 is the Novell IPX LSAP (Link Service Access Point) types which can be used in configuring access lists for source-route bridging. For some reason Cisco morphs it into 0xE0E0 but the reason why surpasses my meager knowledge of Source-Route bridging. Jonathan. Michael Snyder wrote: Don't worry about LANE, WORRY about Token RIFS, and the difference in modes of bridging it. What is 0xEOEO vs 0x8137? ""Michael Bambic"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Well after teaching CCNA for the last 18 months for the Cisco Networking Academy, then taking the CCNP tests in February and CID in March I am now ready to take the CCIE Written (I HOPE) and plan to take the test tomorrow. I appreciate everyone's help with any questions I had and look forward to the next step in my IT career. I'll let you all know tomorrow what happens, any last minute info would be great. I plan to review ATM LANE components and processes tonight along with basic token ring info. Mike Bambic Lead Mentor Phoenix Branch 602-955-5888 Cisco Regional Business Development Manager TechSkills www.techskills.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=843t=830 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Written tomorrow. [7:830]
I hear this and other TR questions oddly still comprise a large section of the test, so be prepared. It's what I spent this weekend starting to learn about. Bleh, I hate old/dead technology that no one I know uses. I'm just glad it's off the lab. I think it's time to purchase or find a good Token Ring overview book. I've read a lot of current docs from Cisco's site, but nothing that really goes back to the beginning and gives a good foundation and good examples to make all this stuff stick in my head. I know a lot of it is just going to be re-reading the docs and definitions a few times until it just sinks in, but often I can find books that do a better job of describing a subject and it speeds the process along. Any recommendations? -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ ""Tolanid"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Focus on RIFs - how RSRB treats RIFs versus how DLSW treats it. Raj "Michael Snyder" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Don't worry about LANE, WORRY about Token RIFS, and the difference in modes of bridging it. What is 0xEOEO vs 0x8137? ""Michael Bambic"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Well after teaching CCNA for the last 18 months for the Cisco Networking Academy, then taking the CCNP tests in February and CID in March I am now ready to take the CCIE Written (I HOPE) and plan to take the test tomorrow. I appreciate everyone's help with any questions I had and look forward to the next step in my IT career. I'll let you all know tomorrow what happens, any last minute info would be great. I plan to review ATM LANE components and processes tonight along with basic token ring info. Mike Bambic Lead Mentor Phoenix Branch 602-955-5888 Cisco Regional Business Development Manager TechSkills www.techskills.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=846t=830 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Written tomorrow. [7:830]
my recommendation again for the token ring stuff - only one document to understand the RIFs (even though there are other good ones) - Token Ring white paper from Lou Rossi. Here is the link where you can find the white paper http://www.ccprep.com/resources/news/archives/Token_Ring2.pdf. Enjoy Raj "Jason J. Roysdon" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I hear this and other TR questions oddly still comprise a large section of the test, so be prepared. It's what I spent this weekend starting to learn about. Bleh, I hate old/dead technology that no one I know uses. I'm just glad it's off the lab. I think it's time to purchase or find a good Token Ring overview book. I've read a lot of current docs from Cisco's site, but nothing that really goes back to the beginning and gives a good foundation and good examples to make all this stuff stick in my head. I know a lot of it is just going to be re-reading the docs and definitions a few times until it just sinks in, but often I can find books that do a better job of describing a subject and it speeds the process along. Any recommendations? -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ ""Tolanid"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Focus on RIFs - how RSRB treats RIFs versus how DLSW treats it. Raj "Michael Snyder" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Don't worry about LANE, WORRY about Token RIFS, and the difference in modes of bridging it. What is 0xEOEO vs 0x8137? ""Michael Bambic"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Well after teaching CCNA for the last 18 months for the Cisco Networking Academy, then taking the CCNP tests in February and CID in March I am now ready to take the CCIE Written (I HOPE) and plan to take the test tomorrow. I appreciate everyone's help with any questions I had and look forward to the next step in my IT career. I'll let you all know tomorrow what happens, any last minute info would be great. I plan to review ATM LANE components and processes tonight along with basic token ring info. Mike Bambic Lead Mentor Phoenix Branch 602-955-5888 Cisco Regional Business Development Manager TechSkills www.techskills.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=863t=830 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
