RE: CCNP and future CCIE lab setup [7:73696]

2003-08-14 Thread Natchaya Radhikulkaralak
I honestly do not know what you are referring to.  A plug on one side and a
jack on the other?  I am probably missing something simple but nothing rings
a bell!!!  Of course, I am a girl from Thailand and maybe my "slang" English
is not up to par.  Hee hee

Can you please explain what that is about?


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RE: CCNP and future CCIE lab setup [7:73696]

2003-08-14 Thread Reimer, Fred
I think he is referring to a RJ45 jack on one end, and a RJ45 connector on
the other, so that you can turn a normal patch cable into a cross-over
cable.

I'd actually suggest plugging all of the router Ethernet ports into a switch
so that you can create VLANs and match two routers up in an ad-hoc kind of
way remotely...

Fred Reimer - CCNA


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From: Natchaya Radhikulkaralak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 6:10 PM
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Subject: RE: CCNP and future CCIE lab setup [7:73696]

I honestly do not know what you are referring to.  A plug on one side and a
jack on the other?  I am probably missing something simple but nothing rings
a bell!!!  Of course, I am a girl from Thailand and maybe my "slang" English
is not up to par.  Hee hee

Can you please explain what that is about?
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RE: CCNP and future CCIE lab setup [7:73696]

2003-08-14 Thread Daniel Cotts
You have a great start. Let's consider what you have. The 2500s are great.
In time, you will want to load an Enterprise version of IOS. That requires
16 MB Flash and 16 MB DRAM. There are many sources of third party DRAM and
Flash - check the archives.
You didn't say if the 2600s had any WIC cards. Two WIC-1Ts in each would be
great. I recently bought several at an average price of $50 each. Just be
patient.
Again, verify how much Flash and DRAM you need for all your routers to run
the images you want.
Back-to-back serial cables. Again several sources. I have purchased from Bob
Lowery, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good prices and great service. Length depends on
how you group your routers. Three foot (one meter) is handy if the routers
are close together. Six foot or ten foot might also be useful.
Ethernet cables. You'll want some crossover cables. May I suggest making
some very short ones with a plug on one end and a jack on the other. Then
add a regular patch cord of the desired length to meet your needs.
Consider racking your equipment. Besides the full height racks you may have
at work, there are short portable racks made for musicians. The rack is part
of a shipping container. The discussions about these on groupstudy indicated
they were quite reasonably priced.
If you start with Routing, I would think that you have everything you need.
I'll assume, without checking, that the 8 A/S module has DB-60 interfaces.
Later when you do Remote Access an ISDN simulator would be a great addition.
CCO has many resources. There are many great books. Consider some of those
mentioned often on the list. Doyle "Routing TCP/IP" Vols I and II, "Cisco
LAN Switching" by Clark and Hamilton, the Cisco Press books for the
Networking Academy courses, etc.
Good luck and have fun. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Natchaya Radhikulkaralak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 6:46 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: CCNP and future CCIE lab setup [7:73696]
> 
> 
> Like the other person previously... I am trying to build a lab.
> 
> I am personally starting my Cisco track but I have recieved 
> some routers
> from my work.
> 
> I personally have 2-2501, 3-2503, 1-2504, 1-as2511-rj(which I 
> dont know how
> to use), 1-2611, 1-2612, 1-3640 w/ 8 a/s module: 2ME-2W 
> module: 4-port ISDN
> Bri module (dont know module name), 2-2912, 1-2950.
> 
> Can you also give me any suggestions?  Larus has mentioned a 
> backbone router
> but isnt the 3640 sufficient?  Overall... is there anything 
> else that i need
> to improve this other than 3550 switches which are way out of 
> my budget!!!?




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RE: CCNP and future CCIE lab setup [7:73696]

2003-08-14 Thread Reimer, Fred
"May I suggest making some very short ones with a plug on one end and a jack
on the other."

Make it at least 1 meter if you want to be in spec...

Fred Reimer - CCNA


Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA 30338
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-Original Message-
From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 11:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CCNP and future CCIE lab setup [7:73696]

You have a great start. Let's consider what you have. The 2500s are great.
In time, you will want to load an Enterprise version of IOS. That requires
16 MB Flash and 16 MB DRAM. There are many sources of third party DRAM and
Flash - check the archives.
You didn't say if the 2600s had any WIC cards. Two WIC-1Ts in each would be
great. I recently bought several at an average price of $50 each. Just be
patient.
Again, verify how much Flash and DRAM you need for all your routers to run
the images you want.
Back-to-back serial cables. Again several sources. I have purchased from Bob
Lowery, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good prices and great service. Length depends on
how you group your routers. Three foot (one meter) is handy if the routers
are close together. Six foot or ten foot might also be useful.
Ethernet cables. You'll want some crossover cables. May I suggest making
some very short ones with a plug on one end and a jack on the other. Then
add a regular patch cord of the desired length to meet your needs.
Consider racking your equipment. Besides the full height racks you may have
at work, there are short portable racks made for musicians. The rack is part
of a shipping container. The discussions about these on groupstudy indicated
they were quite reasonably priced.
If you start with Routing, I would think that you have everything you need.
I'll assume, without checking, that the 8 A/S module has DB-60 interfaces.
Later when you do Remote Access an ISDN simulator would be a great addition.
CCO has many resources. There are many great books. Consider some of those
mentioned often on the list. Doyle "Routing TCP/IP" Vols I and II, "Cisco
LAN Switching" by Clark and Hamilton, the Cisco Press books for the
Networking Academy courses, etc.
Good luck and have fun. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Natchaya Radhikulkaralak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 6:46 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: CCNP and future CCIE lab setup [7:73696]
> 
> 
> Like the other person previously... I am trying to build a lab.
> 
> I am personally starting my Cisco track but I have recieved 
> some routers
> from my work.
> 
> I personally have 2-2501, 3-2503, 1-2504, 1-as2511-rj(which I 
> dont know how
> to use), 1-2611, 1-2612, 1-3640 w/ 8 a/s module: 2ME-2W 
> module: 4-port ISDN
> Bri module (dont know module name), 2-2912, 1-2950.
> 
> Can you also give me any suggestions?  Larus has mentioned a 
> backbone router
> but isnt the 3640 sufficient?  Overall... is there anything 
> else that i need
> to improve this other than 3550 switches which are way out of 
> my budget!!!?
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RE: CCNP and future CCIE lab setup [7:73696]

2003-08-14 Thread R. Benjamin Kessler
I think they're suggesting that you make a short cross-over male to female
cable (instead of the standard male to male patch cable).

The idea being that you could still use your standard patch cables and where
a cross-over cable was required and simply connect the short cross-over to
one end.

Does this clear it up for you or are you more confused?

~~
R. Benjamin Kessler
Network Engineer
CCIE #8762, CISSP, CCSE
Kessler Consulting
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.kesslerconsulting.com
Phone: 260-625-3273
 

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Subject: RE: CCNP and future CCIE lab setup [7:73696]

I honestly do not know what you are referring to.  A plug on one side and a
jack on the other?  I am probably missing something simple but nothing rings
a bell!!!  Of course, I am a girl from Thailand and maybe my "slang" English
is not up to par.  Hee hee

Can you please explain what that is about?
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CCNP and future CCIE lab setup [7:73696]

2003-08-07 Thread Natchaya Radhikulkaralak
Like the other person previously... I am trying to build a lab.

I am personally starting my Cisco track but I have recieved some routers
from my work.

I personally have 2-2501, 3-2503, 1-2504, 1-as2511-rj(which I dont know how
to use), 1-2611, 1-2612, 1-3640 w/ 8 a/s module: 2ME-2W module: 4-port ISDN
Bri module (dont know module name), 2-2912, 1-2950.

Can you also give me any suggestions?  Larus has mentioned a backbone router
but isnt the 3640 sufficient?  Overall... is there anything else that i need
to improve this other than 3550 switches which are way out of my budget!!!?


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