RE: Cascading Switches

2001-01-25 Thread Rik Guyler

Hub-n-spoke is not always practical from a budget perspective.

I think of cascading and stacking as basically the same thing in terms of
physical topology.  Creating a switch cluster (stack as you call it) simply
provides a single management interface for the entire cluster.  A cluster
does not need to be a physical stack of switches, however, as they can be
spread out across the LAN.

Now, when it comes to the maximum number of switches that you can stack,
that depends on the technology involved.  There are distinct limitations to
each.  With Cisco's GigaStack GBICs, you can stack up to 9 switches in
half-duplex mode.  You could also simply use crossover cables between the
10/100 ports, but the stack size limitation is probably different when doing
this.  In comparison, 3Com's matrix module only supports a stack of 4
switches within the shared backplane.

As Gareth suggested, hub-n-spoke is a better way to go, but you should
dedicate a switch just for the hub function and then uplink all of the other
switches to it.  This way, you prevent frames from crossing the entire
backbone and going through every switch, which could happen in a stacked
configuration.  A little more expensive, but better in the long run.

Rik

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Why cascade them rather than using hub/spoke connectivity?

Gareth
""Maness, Drew"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 I've looked through the archives as well as on CCO but could not find a
 definite answer to the limit of "cascading" switches, specifically
catalyst
 2900's.  I saw the discussion earlier this year/last year that talked
about
 the difference between "cascading" and "stacking".  I'm not looking for
 shared management (stacking) but just how many switches can I cascade
 together to get the highest port concentration. Just a simple (or bad
 network design)of one switch to another to another to N... because I ran
out
 of ports and do not want to by a real switch scenario How many can I
 connect?

 My first reaction to this question was that it had to be limited by the
CAM
 of each switch but can't find an answer.  Again it is for the 2900 series
 switch.

 Thanks

 Drew

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Re: Cascading Switches

2001-01-24 Thread Gareth Hinton

Why cascade them rather than using hub/spoke connectivity?

Gareth
""Maness, Drew"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 I've looked through the archives as well as on CCO but could not find a
 definite answer to the limit of "cascading" switches, specifically
catalyst
 2900's.  I saw the discussion earlier this year/last year that talked
about
 the difference between "cascading" and "stacking".  I'm not looking for
 shared management (stacking) but just how many switches can I cascade
 together to get the highest port concentration. Just a simple (or bad
 network design)of one switch to another to another to N... because I ran
out
 of ports and do not want to by a real switch scenario How many can I
 connect?

 My first reaction to this question was that it had to be limited by the
CAM
 of each switch but can't find an answer.  Again it is for the 2900 series
 switch.

 Thanks

 Drew

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Cascading Switches

2001-01-22 Thread Maness, Drew

I've looked through the archives as well as on CCO but could not find a
definite answer to the limit of "cascading" switches, specifically catalyst
2900's.  I saw the discussion earlier this year/last year that talked about
the difference between "cascading" and "stacking".  I'm not looking for
shared management (stacking) but just how many switches can I cascade
together to get the highest port concentration. Just a simple (or bad
network design)of one switch to another to another to N... because I ran out
of ports and do not want to by a real switch scenario How many can I
connect?

My first reaction to this question was that it had to be limited by the CAM
of each switch but can't find an answer.  Again it is for the 2900 series
switch.

Thanks

Drew

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Re: Cascading Switches

2001-01-22 Thread J Roysdon

I've never done it with 2900s, but the product docs seem to talk about it:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/ca2900.htm

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""Maness, Drew"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 I've looked through the archives as well as on CCO but could not find a
 definite answer to the limit of "cascading" switches, specifically
catalyst
 2900's.  I saw the discussion earlier this year/last year that talked
about
 the difference between "cascading" and "stacking".  I'm not looking for
 shared management (stacking) but just how many switches can I cascade
 together to get the highest port concentration. Just a simple (or bad
 network design)of one switch to another to another to N... because I ran
out
 of ports and do not want to by a real switch scenario How many can I
 connect?

 My first reaction to this question was that it had to be limited by the
CAM
 of each switch but can't find an answer.  Again it is for the 2900 series
 switch.

 Thanks

 Drew

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Re: Cascading Switches

2001-01-22 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

I can't find my figures but off memory you can have 5 bridges between 2 devices 
therefore you could have up to 5 switches between two clients or client - server.  
This would probably suggest the to go more than 3 deep in your cascading could present 
a problem but could the links cope.

Running 15 or so switches into another with a couple of servers into it would be ok.  
But running 15 or 20 into one switch then onto another 15 or 20 I guess you would end 
up with a huge bottle neck if not between switches then most likely at a server.

20 X 20 is alreay 400 connections, whew!.


Just some thoughts.

Teunis
Hobart, Tasmania
Austalia


On Monday, January 22, 2001 at 04:49:30 PM, Maness. Drew wrote:

 I've looked through the archives as well as on CCO but could not find a
 definite answer to the limit of "cascading" switches, specifically catalyst
 2900's.  I saw the discussion earlier this year/last year that talked about
 the difference between "cascading" and "stacking".  I'm not looking for
 shared management (stacking) but just how many switches can I cascade
 together to get the highest port concentration. Just a simple (or bad
 network design)of one switch to another to another to N... because I ran out
 of ports and do not want to by a real switch scenario How many can I
 connect?
 
 My first reaction to this question was that it had to be limited by the CAM
 of each switch but can't find an answer.  Again it is for the 2900 series
 switch.
 
 Thanks
 
 Drew
 
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Re: Cascading Switches

2001-01-22 Thread Vincent

Depends on the limitation of the diameter of the spanning tree ?

Thanks
Vincent

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 I've looked through the archives as well as on CCO but could not find a
 definite answer to the limit of "cascading" switches, specifically
catalyst
 2900's.  I saw the discussion earlier this year/last year that talked
about
 the difference between "cascading" and "stacking".  I'm not looking for
 shared management (stacking) but just how many switches can I cascade
 together to get the highest port concentration. Just a simple (or bad
 network design)of one switch to another to another to N... because I ran
out
 of ports and do not want to by a real switch scenario How many can I
 connect?

 My first reaction to this question was that it had to be limited by the
CAM
 of each switch but can't find an answer.  Again it is for the 2900 series
 switch.

 Thanks

 Drew

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