RE: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]

2002-03-09 Thread Ismail Al-Shelh

to all who helped me , thanks allot I enabled the portfast and it works , my
customer was very happy from me , I told him about you people but he could
not imagine that I got the solution from a study group , thanks again 



-Original Message-
From: Larry Letterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]


Portfast does not disable spanning tree, it allows the port to
go into forwarding a lot faster than the usual 50-70 seconds. WE run
portfast on all our production switches and it will still disable a
port if a loop is detected.

It should only be used for host on the network, since other switch type
devices have a better chance to cause a broadcast storm with port fast
turned on.



Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Elijah Savage
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]


>From my knowledge if you use this command (spanning-tree portfast) on a
switch port it actually disable spanning tree for that port you should
only do this if pc's are connected. So if you enable portfast you
disable spanning tree for that port, if you disable portfast you enable
spanning tree for that port.

What this does with it enabled and a pc connected to it, it will keep
the port from going through all the spanning tree phases you know like
learning, listening, blocking etc it will take the switch 60 seconds to
figure all this out before it starts passing traffic to that port. If
portfast is enabled then it does not go through those phases and will
only take approximately 3 seconds before traffic is passing according to
Cisco. Someone please correct me if I am wrong here or missed something.
Hope that helps

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-Original Message-
From: Cebuano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]

You don't disable STP on the port to the PC because
STP is only run between Layer2 devices.
I believe you are referring to PortFast.

Elmer

- Original Message -
From: "Brian"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:34 AM
Subject: Re: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]


> If you connect a computer to a switch port, it takes spanning tree a
bit
to
> allow traffic to pass.  If this is an individual host being connected,
you
> could try disabling spanning tree on the port..
>
> Bri
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ismail Al-Shelh"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 10:44 PM
> Subject: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]
>
>
> > Dear all
> > We have Pc with 3Com 3c90x-Tx 10/100 Network Card.  This PC is
installed
> > with Dos 6.22 Operating System.  We used to connect this to our 3com
> > Switch1100 with the dos driver provided by 3Com.  The sequence of
loading
> > the 3com driver to connect to 3com Switch1100 is as follows:
> > LSL.COM
> > 3C90X.EXE
> > IPXODI.COM
> > NETX.EXE
> > F:
> > LOGIN
> > This is in a batch file and when we run the batch file it will
connect
> > immediately.
> > The problem I am facing while connect to CISCO CATALYST 2950-24 port
is
> that
> > If I am
> > running the same batch file it will not connect.
> > I have to load the LSL.COM first and port on switch to which this
computer
> > is connected will be in Green color. But When
> > I will load 3c90x.exe immediately the port on the switch color
becomes
> > amber.
> > I have to wait for 1 to 1.5 minutes for the port color to become
green
> > and after that if load IPXODI.COM and NETX.EXE then it will connect.
> > I can see this because I am sitting in front of the Cisco Switch.
In
> actual
> > the end user will  run the batch file sitting somewhere in his room
and
he
> > will get a message "Novell Netware Server not
> > Found".
> > Why this delay in connecting to Novell Netware through Cisco Switch.
The
> > same
> > delay is not happening while we are connecting to 3Com Switch.
> > We need you help and guidance to sort out this problem.
> > Ismail Al-shelh
> >
> > [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef]




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RE: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]

2002-03-08 Thread Joseph Brunner

Moreover, the 6509 complains (cat-os) if it hears BPDU's on a port
configured for Portfast . That port 
is automatically, immediately disabled. 

Joseph Brunner
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New York, NY 10038
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-Original Message-
From: Mike Mandulak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 9:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]


The portfast command does not turn STP off. The following is from CCO:

Cisco added a feature named "portfast" or "fast-start," which means the STP
for this port will assume that the port is not part of a loop and will
immediately
move to the forwarding state, without going through the blocking, listening,
or learning states. This command does not turn STP off. It just makes STP
skip a few
(unnecessary in this circumstance) steps in the beginning on the selected
port.

Note: The portfast feature should never be used on switch ports that connect
to other switches, hubs, or routers. These connections may cause physical
loops
and it is very important that spanning tree go through the full
initialization procedure in these situations. A spanning tree loop can bring
your network down. If portfast
is turned on for a port that is part of a physical loop, it can cause a
window of time where packets could possibly be continuously forwarded (and
even multiply) in
such a way that the network cannot recover.

- Original Message -
From: "Elijah Savage" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:56 AM
Subject: RE: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]


> From my knowledge if you use this command (spanning-tree portfast) on a
> switch port it actually disable spanning tree for that port you should
> only do this if pc's are connected. So if you enable portfast you
> disable spanning tree for that port, if you disable portfast you enable
> spanning tree for that port.
>
> What this does with it enabled and a pc connected to it, it will keep
> the port from going through all the spanning tree phases you know like
> learning, listening, blocking etc it will take the switch 60 seconds to
> figure all this out before it starts passing traffic to that port. If
> portfast is enabled then it does not go through those phases and will
> only take approximately 3 seconds before traffic is passing according to
> Cisco. Someone please correct me if I am wrong here or missed something.
> Hope that helps
>
> www.digitalrage.org latest in Technical News and HowTo's
> www.digitalrage.org/phpBB Discussion Forums
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cebuano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:21 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]
>
> You don't disable STP on the port to the PC because
> STP is only run between Layer2 devices.
> I believe you are referring to PortFast.
>
> Elmer
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brian"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:34 AM
> Subject: Re: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]
>
>
> > If you connect a computer to a switch port, it takes spanning tree a
> bit
> to
> > allow traffic to pass.  If this is an individual host being connected,
> you
> > could try disabling spanning tree on the port..
> >
> > Bri
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Ismail Al-Shelh"
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 10:44 PM
> > Subject: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]
> >
> >
> > > Dear all
> > > We have Pc with 3Com 3c90x-Tx 10/100 Network Card.  This PC is
> installed
> > > with Dos 6.22 Operating System.  We used to connect this to our 3com
> > > Switch1100 with the dos driver provided by 3Com.  The sequence of
> loading
> > > the 3com driver to connect to 3com Switch1100 is as follows:
> > > LSL.COM
> > > 3C90X.EXE
> > > IPXODI.COM
> > > NETX.EXE
> > > F:
> > > LOGIN
> > > This is in a batch file and when we run the batch file it will
> connect
> > > immediately.
> > > The problem I am facing while connect to CISCO CATALYST 2950-24 port
> is
> > that
> > > If I am
> > > running the same batch file it will not connect.
> > > I have to load the LSL.COM first and port on switch to which this
> computer
> > > is connected will be in Green color. But When
> > > I will load 3c90x.exe immediately the port on the switch color
> becomes
> > > amber.
> > > I have to wait for 1 to 1.5 minutes for the port color to become
> green
> > > and after that if load IPXODI.COM and NETX.EXE then it will connect.
> > > I can see this because I am sitting in front 

RE: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]

2002-03-06 Thread Larry Letterman

Portfast does not disable spanning tree, it allows the port to
go into forwarding a lot faster than the usual 50-70 seconds. WE run
portfast on all our production switches and it will still disable a
port if a loop is detected.

It should only be used for host on the network, since other switch type
devices have a better chance to cause a broadcast storm with port fast
turned on.



Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Elijah Savage
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]


>From my knowledge if you use this command (spanning-tree portfast) on a
switch port it actually disable spanning tree for that port you should
only do this if pc's are connected. So if you enable portfast you
disable spanning tree for that port, if you disable portfast you enable
spanning tree for that port.

What this does with it enabled and a pc connected to it, it will keep
the port from going through all the spanning tree phases you know like
learning, listening, blocking etc it will take the switch 60 seconds to
figure all this out before it starts passing traffic to that port. If
portfast is enabled then it does not go through those phases and will
only take approximately 3 seconds before traffic is passing according to
Cisco. Someone please correct me if I am wrong here or missed something.
Hope that helps

www.digitalrage.org latest in Technical News and HowTo's
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-Original Message-
From: Cebuano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]

You don't disable STP on the port to the PC because
STP is only run between Layer2 devices.
I believe you are referring to PortFast.

Elmer

- Original Message -
From: "Brian"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:34 AM
Subject: Re: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]


> If you connect a computer to a switch port, it takes spanning tree a
bit
to
> allow traffic to pass.  If this is an individual host being connected,
you
> could try disabling spanning tree on the port..
>
> Bri
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ismail Al-Shelh"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 10:44 PM
> Subject: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]
>
>
> > Dear all
> > We have Pc with 3Com 3c90x-Tx 10/100 Network Card.  This PC is
installed
> > with Dos 6.22 Operating System.  We used to connect this to our 3com
> > Switch1100 with the dos driver provided by 3Com.  The sequence of
loading
> > the 3com driver to connect to 3com Switch1100 is as follows:
> > LSL.COM
> > 3C90X.EXE
> > IPXODI.COM
> > NETX.EXE
> > F:
> > LOGIN
> > This is in a batch file and when we run the batch file it will
connect
> > immediately.
> > The problem I am facing while connect to CISCO CATALYST 2950-24 port
is
> that
> > If I am
> > running the same batch file it will not connect.
> > I have to load the LSL.COM first and port on switch to which this
computer
> > is connected will be in Green color. But When
> > I will load 3c90x.exe immediately the port on the switch color
becomes
> > amber.
> > I have to wait for 1 to 1.5 minutes for the port color to become
green
> > and after that if load IPXODI.COM and NETX.EXE then it will connect.
> > I can see this because I am sitting in front of the Cisco Switch.
In
> actual
> > the end user will  run the batch file sitting somewhere in his room
and
he
> > will get a message "Novell Netware Server not
> > Found".
> > Why this delay in connecting to Novell Netware through Cisco Switch.
The
> > same
> > delay is not happening while we are connecting to 3Com Switch.
> > We need you help and guidance to sort out this problem.
> > Ismail Al-shelh
> >
> > [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef]




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RE: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]

2002-03-06 Thread Fears Michael S SSgt 50 CS/SCBBN

It does not actually disable spanning tree. PortFast causes a port to enter
the forwarding state immediately, bypassing the listening and learning
states. Spanning tree is still enabled and able detect loops.

Fears

-Original Message-
From: Elijah Savage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 8:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]


>From my knowledge if you use this command (spanning-tree portfast) on a
switch port it actually disable spanning tree for that port you should
only do this if pc's are connected. So if you enable portfast you
disable spanning tree for that port, if you disable portfast you enable
spanning tree for that port.

What this does with it enabled and a pc connected to it, it will keep
the port from going through all the spanning tree phases you know like
learning, listening, blocking etc it will take the switch 60 seconds to
figure all this out before it starts passing traffic to that port. If
portfast is enabled then it does not go through those phases and will
only take approximately 3 seconds before traffic is passing according to
Cisco. Someone please correct me if I am wrong here or missed something.
Hope that helps 

www.digitalrage.org latest in Technical News and HowTo's 
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-Original Message-
From: Cebuano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]

You don't disable STP on the port to the PC because
STP is only run between Layer2 devices.
I believe you are referring to PortFast.

Elmer

- Original Message -
From: "Brian" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:34 AM
Subject: Re: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]


> If you connect a computer to a switch port, it takes spanning tree a
bit
to
> allow traffic to pass.  If this is an individual host being connected,
you
> could try disabling spanning tree on the port..
>
> Bri
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ismail Al-Shelh"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 10:44 PM
> Subject: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]
>
>
> > Dear all
> > We have Pc with 3Com 3c90x-Tx 10/100 Network Card.  This PC is
installed
> > with Dos 6.22 Operating System.  We used to connect this to our 3com
> > Switch1100 with the dos driver provided by 3Com.  The sequence of
loading
> > the 3com driver to connect to 3com Switch1100 is as follows:
> > LSL.COM
> > 3C90X.EXE
> > IPXODI.COM
> > NETX.EXE
> > F:
> > LOGIN
> > This is in a batch file and when we run the batch file it will
connect
> > immediately.
> > The problem I am facing while connect to CISCO CATALYST 2950-24 port
is
> that
> > If I am
> > running the same batch file it will not connect.
> > I have to load the LSL.COM first and port on switch to which this
computer
> > is connected will be in Green color. But When
> > I will load 3c90x.exe immediately the port on the switch color
becomes
> > amber.
> > I have to wait for 1 to 1.5 minutes for the port color to become
green
> > and after that if load IPXODI.COM and NETX.EXE then it will connect.
> > I can see this because I am sitting in front of the Cisco Switch.
In
> actual
> > the end user will  run the batch file sitting somewhere in his room
and
he
> > will get a message "Novell Netware Server not
> > Found".
> > Why this delay in connecting to Novell Netware through Cisco Switch.
The
> > same
> > delay is not happening while we are connecting to 3Com Switch.
> > We need you help and guidance to sort out this problem.
> > Ismail Al-shelh
> >
> > [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef]




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Re: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]

2002-03-06 Thread Cebuano

Again, just a minor correction.
Portfast DOES NOT disable STP on the port.
It just causes the port to go from disabled to forwarding
as soon as the link is sensed by the port. STP still is
active on the said port. So when a loop is detected after
the port is set to "forwarding", STP will change the port
status to "blocking" state.
Since this "portfast" works ONLY the first time the port
initializes, this also proves that STP is enabled as this port
will transition through the entire blocking to forwarding
states when the loop disappears.

Hope this clears up the topic.
Elmer

- Original Message -
From: "Elijah Savage" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:56 AM
Subject: RE: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]


> From my knowledge if you use this command (spanning-tree portfast) on a
> switch port it actually disable spanning tree for that port you should
> only do this if pc's are connected. So if you enable portfast you
> disable spanning tree for that port, if you disable portfast you enable
> spanning tree for that port.
>
> What this does with it enabled and a pc connected to it, it will keep
> the port from going through all the spanning tree phases you know like
> learning, listening, blocking etc it will take the switch 60 seconds to
> figure all this out before it starts passing traffic to that port. If
> portfast is enabled then it does not go through those phases and will
> only take approximately 3 seconds before traffic is passing according to
> Cisco. Someone please correct me if I am wrong here or missed something.
> Hope that helps
>
> www.digitalrage.org latest in Technical News and HowTo's
> www.digitalrage.org/phpBB Discussion Forums
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cebuano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:21 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]
>
> You don't disable STP on the port to the PC because
> STP is only run between Layer2 devices.
> I believe you are referring to PortFast.
>
> Elmer
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brian"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:34 AM
> Subject: Re: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]
>
>
> > If you connect a computer to a switch port, it takes spanning tree a
> bit
> to
> > allow traffic to pass.  If this is an individual host being connected,
> you
> > could try disabling spanning tree on the port..
> >
> > Bri
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Ismail Al-Shelh"
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 10:44 PM
> > Subject: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]
> >
> >
> > > Dear all
> > > We have Pc with 3Com 3c90x-Tx 10/100 Network Card.  This PC is
> installed
> > > with Dos 6.22 Operating System.  We used to connect this to our 3com
> > > Switch1100 with the dos driver provided by 3Com.  The sequence of
> loading
> > > the 3com driver to connect to 3com Switch1100 is as follows:
> > > LSL.COM
> > > 3C90X.EXE
> > > IPXODI.COM
> > > NETX.EXE
> > > F:
> > > LOGIN
> > > This is in a batch file and when we run the batch file it will
> connect
> > > immediately.
> > > The problem I am facing while connect to CISCO CATALYST 2950-24 port
> is
> > that
> > > If I am
> > > running the same batch file it will not connect.
> > > I have to load the LSL.COM first and port on switch to which this
> computer
> > > is connected will be in Green color. But When
> > > I will load 3c90x.exe immediately the port on the switch color
> becomes
> > > amber.
> > > I have to wait for 1 to 1.5 minutes for the port color to become
> green
> > > and after that if load IPXODI.COM and NETX.EXE then it will connect.
> > > I can see this because I am sitting in front of the Cisco Switch.
> In
> > actual
> > > the end user will  run the batch file sitting somewhere in his room
> and
> he
> > > will get a message "Novell Netware Server not
> > > Found".
> > > Why this delay in connecting to Novell Netware through Cisco Switch.
> The
> > > same
> > > delay is not happening while we are connecting to 3Com Switch.
> > > We need you help and guidance to sort out this problem.
> > > Ismail Al-shelh
> > >
> > > [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef]




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Re: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]

2002-03-06 Thread Mike Mandulak

The portfast command does not turn STP off. The following is from CCO:

Cisco added a feature named "portfast" or "fast-start," which means the STP
for this port will assume that the port is not part of a loop and will
immediately
move to the forwarding state, without going through the blocking, listening,
or learning states. This command does not turn STP off. It just makes STP
skip a few
(unnecessary in this circumstance) steps in the beginning on the selected
port.

Note: The portfast feature should never be used on switch ports that connect
to other switches, hubs, or routers. These connections may cause physical
loops
and it is very important that spanning tree go through the full
initialization procedure in these situations. A spanning tree loop can bring
your network down. If portfast
is turned on for a port that is part of a physical loop, it can cause a
window of time where packets could possibly be continuously forwarded (and
even multiply) in
such a way that the network cannot recover.

- Original Message -
From: "Elijah Savage" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:56 AM
Subject: RE: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]


> From my knowledge if you use this command (spanning-tree portfast) on a
> switch port it actually disable spanning tree for that port you should
> only do this if pc's are connected. So if you enable portfast you
> disable spanning tree for that port, if you disable portfast you enable
> spanning tree for that port.
>
> What this does with it enabled and a pc connected to it, it will keep
> the port from going through all the spanning tree phases you know like
> learning, listening, blocking etc it will take the switch 60 seconds to
> figure all this out before it starts passing traffic to that port. If
> portfast is enabled then it does not go through those phases and will
> only take approximately 3 seconds before traffic is passing according to
> Cisco. Someone please correct me if I am wrong here or missed something.
> Hope that helps
>
> www.digitalrage.org latest in Technical News and HowTo's
> www.digitalrage.org/phpBB Discussion Forums
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cebuano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:21 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]
>
> You don't disable STP on the port to the PC because
> STP is only run between Layer2 devices.
> I believe you are referring to PortFast.
>
> Elmer
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brian"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:34 AM
> Subject: Re: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]
>
>
> > If you connect a computer to a switch port, it takes spanning tree a
> bit
> to
> > allow traffic to pass.  If this is an individual host being connected,
> you
> > could try disabling spanning tree on the port..
> >
> > Bri
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Ismail Al-Shelh"
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 10:44 PM
> > Subject: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]
> >
> >
> > > Dear all
> > > We have Pc with 3Com 3c90x-Tx 10/100 Network Card.  This PC is
> installed
> > > with Dos 6.22 Operating System.  We used to connect this to our 3com
> > > Switch1100 with the dos driver provided by 3Com.  The sequence of
> loading
> > > the 3com driver to connect to 3com Switch1100 is as follows:
> > > LSL.COM
> > > 3C90X.EXE
> > > IPXODI.COM
> > > NETX.EXE
> > > F:
> > > LOGIN
> > > This is in a batch file and when we run the batch file it will
> connect
> > > immediately.
> > > The problem I am facing while connect to CISCO CATALYST 2950-24 port
> is
> > that
> > > If I am
> > > running the same batch file it will not connect.
> > > I have to load the LSL.COM first and port on switch to which this
> computer
> > > is connected will be in Green color. But When
> > > I will load 3c90x.exe immediately the port on the switch color
> becomes
> > > amber.
> > > I have to wait for 1 to 1.5 minutes for the port color to become
> green
> > > and after that if load IPXODI.COM and NETX.EXE then it will connect.
> > > I can see this because I am sitting in front of the Cisco Switch.
> In
> > actual
> > > the end user will  run the batch file sitting somewhere in his room
> and
> he
> > > will get a message "Novell Netware Server not
> > > Found".
> > > Why this delay in connecting to Novell Netware through Cisco Switch.
> The
> > > same
> > > delay is not happening while we are connecting to 3Com Switch.
> > > We need you help and guidance to sort out this problem.
> > > Ismail Al-shelh
> > >
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OT:RE: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]

2002-03-06 Thread Roberts, Larry

Reminds me of a funny story about this..
I was new to Cisco eq, and switches in general. I searched and searched to
find out why this was
Happening to me. Finally found the answer of port fast. Was I happy ...until
the next morning when
The config was blank and problem was back. I put the port fast back in and
all was well until the next morning.
Same thing kept happening for 2 weeks. I was going nuts trying to figure out
what was going on until someone
Was kind enough to tell me about the mysterious command " write memory ".
That fixed the problem for a week or
So until one morning I get a call that nobody can log in again. I go to
telnet into the switch and I cant reach it. Hm.
Quick walk to the maintenance cage revealed the answer. You see this was a
new enclosure that didn't have power directly to it yet,
So an extension cord was run to power the 2924's. Turns out that were we
plugged into was the location that the night maintenance man
Also happened to plug he coffee maker into. Seems he forgot to plug it back
in when he left for the night and the cabinet was dead.
Since the Building Manager AND the Maintenance Manager all happened to be
connected to those switches power was ran that afternoon 
Like I had originally requested. I bought the night guy a thing of coffee
for the assistance!

Thanks

Larry 

-Original Message-
From: Cebuano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]


You don't disable STP on the port to the PC because
STP is only run between Layer2 devices.
I believe you are referring to PortFast.

Elmer

- Original Message -
From: "Brian" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:34 AM
Subject: Re: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]


> If you connect a computer to a switch port, it takes spanning tree a 
> bit
to
> allow traffic to pass.  If this is an individual host being connected, 
> you could try disabling spanning tree on the port..
>
> Bri
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ismail Al-Shelh"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 10:44 PM
> Subject: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]
>
>
> > Dear all
> > We have Pc with 3Com 3c90x-Tx 10/100 Network Card.  This PC is 
> > installed with Dos 6.22 Operating System.  We used to connect this 
> > to our 3com Switch1100 with the dos driver provided by 3Com.  The 
> > sequence of
loading
> > the 3com driver to connect to 3com Switch1100 is as follows: LSL.COM
> > 3C90X.EXE
> > IPXODI.COM
> > NETX.EXE
> > F:
> > LOGIN
> > This is in a batch file and when we run the batch file it will connect
> > immediately.
> > The problem I am facing while connect to CISCO CATALYST 2950-24 port is
> that
> > If I am
> > running the same batch file it will not connect.
> > I have to load the LSL.COM first and port on switch to which this
computer
> > is connected will be in Green color. But When
> > I will load 3c90x.exe immediately the port on the switch color 
> > becomes amber. I have to wait for 1 to 1.5 minutes for the port 
> > color to become green and after that if load IPXODI.COM and NETX.EXE 
> > then it will connect. I can see this because I am sitting in front 
> > of the Cisco Switch.  In
> actual
> > the end user will  run the batch file sitting somewhere in his room 
> > and
he
> > will get a message "Novell Netware Server not
> > Found".
> > Why this delay in connecting to Novell Netware through Cisco Switch.
The
> > same
> > delay is not happening while we are connecting to 3Com Switch. We 
> > need you help and guidance to sort out this problem. Ismail Al-shelh
> >
> > [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef]




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RE: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]

2002-03-06 Thread Elijah Savage

>From my knowledge if you use this command (spanning-tree portfast) on a
switch port it actually disable spanning tree for that port you should
only do this if pc's are connected. So if you enable portfast you
disable spanning tree for that port, if you disable portfast you enable
spanning tree for that port.

What this does with it enabled and a pc connected to it, it will keep
the port from going through all the spanning tree phases you know like
learning, listening, blocking etc it will take the switch 60 seconds to
figure all this out before it starts passing traffic to that port. If
portfast is enabled then it does not go through those phases and will
only take approximately 3 seconds before traffic is passing according to
Cisco. Someone please correct me if I am wrong here or missed something.
Hope that helps 

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-Original Message-
From: Cebuano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]

You don't disable STP on the port to the PC because
STP is only run between Layer2 devices.
I believe you are referring to PortFast.

Elmer

- Original Message -
From: "Brian" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:34 AM
Subject: Re: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]


> If you connect a computer to a switch port, it takes spanning tree a
bit
to
> allow traffic to pass.  If this is an individual host being connected,
you
> could try disabling spanning tree on the port..
>
> Bri
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ismail Al-Shelh"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 10:44 PM
> Subject: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]
>
>
> > Dear all
> > We have Pc with 3Com 3c90x-Tx 10/100 Network Card.  This PC is
installed
> > with Dos 6.22 Operating System.  We used to connect this to our 3com
> > Switch1100 with the dos driver provided by 3Com.  The sequence of
loading
> > the 3com driver to connect to 3com Switch1100 is as follows:
> > LSL.COM
> > 3C90X.EXE
> > IPXODI.COM
> > NETX.EXE
> > F:
> > LOGIN
> > This is in a batch file and when we run the batch file it will
connect
> > immediately.
> > The problem I am facing while connect to CISCO CATALYST 2950-24 port
is
> that
> > If I am
> > running the same batch file it will not connect.
> > I have to load the LSL.COM first and port on switch to which this
computer
> > is connected will be in Green color. But When
> > I will load 3c90x.exe immediately the port on the switch color
becomes
> > amber.
> > I have to wait for 1 to 1.5 minutes for the port color to become
green
> > and after that if load IPXODI.COM and NETX.EXE then it will connect.
> > I can see this because I am sitting in front of the Cisco Switch.
In
> actual
> > the end user will  run the batch file sitting somewhere in his room
and
he
> > will get a message "Novell Netware Server not
> > Found".
> > Why this delay in connecting to Novell Netware through Cisco Switch.
The
> > same
> > delay is not happening while we are connecting to 3Com Switch.
> > We need you help and guidance to sort out this problem.
> > Ismail Al-shelh
> >
> > [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef]




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RE: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]

2002-03-06 Thread Mike Dickson

Try turning spanning tree off for the port being used on the Cisco switch.

Mike Dickson
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 12:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]


Dear all
We have Pc with 3Com 3c90x-Tx 10/100 Network Card.  This PC is installed
with Dos 6.22 Operating System.  We used to connect this to our 3com
Switch1100 with the dos driver provided by 3Com.  The sequence of loading
the 3com driver to connect to 3com Switch1100 is as follows:
LSL.COM
3C90X.EXE
IPXODI.COM
NETX.EXE
F:
LOGIN
This is in a batch file and when we run the batch file it will connect
immediately.
The problem I am facing while connect to CISCO CATALYST 2950-24 port is that
If I am
running the same batch file it will not connect.
I have to load the LSL.COM first and port on switch to which this computer
is connected will be in Green color. But When
I will load 3c90x.exe immediately the port on the switch color becomes
amber.
I have to wait for 1 to 1.5 minutes for the port color to become green
and after that if load IPXODI.COM and NETX.EXE then it will connect.
I can see this because I am sitting in front of the Cisco Switch.  In actual
the end user will  run the batch file sitting somewhere in his room and he
will get a message "Novell Netware Server not
Found".
Why this delay in connecting to Novell Netware through Cisco Switch.  The
same
delay is not happening while we are connecting to 3Com Switch.
We need you help and guidance to sort out this problem.
Ismail Al-shelh

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Re: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]

2002-03-06 Thread Cebuano

You don't disable STP on the port to the PC because
STP is only run between Layer2 devices.
I believe you are referring to PortFast.

Elmer

- Original Message -
From: "Brian" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:34 AM
Subject: Re: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]


> If you connect a computer to a switch port, it takes spanning tree a bit
to
> allow traffic to pass.  If this is an individual host being connected, you
> could try disabling spanning tree on the port..
>
> Bri
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ismail Al-Shelh"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 10:44 PM
> Subject: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]
>
>
> > Dear all
> > We have Pc with 3Com 3c90x-Tx 10/100 Network Card.  This PC is installed
> > with Dos 6.22 Operating System.  We used to connect this to our 3com
> > Switch1100 with the dos driver provided by 3Com.  The sequence of
loading
> > the 3com driver to connect to 3com Switch1100 is as follows:
> > LSL.COM
> > 3C90X.EXE
> > IPXODI.COM
> > NETX.EXE
> > F:
> > LOGIN
> > This is in a batch file and when we run the batch file it will connect
> > immediately.
> > The problem I am facing while connect to CISCO CATALYST 2950-24 port is
> that
> > If I am
> > running the same batch file it will not connect.
> > I have to load the LSL.COM first and port on switch to which this
computer
> > is connected will be in Green color. But When
> > I will load 3c90x.exe immediately the port on the switch color becomes
> > amber.
> > I have to wait for 1 to 1.5 minutes for the port color to become green
> > and after that if load IPXODI.COM and NETX.EXE then it will connect.
> > I can see this because I am sitting in front of the Cisco Switch.  In
> actual
> > the end user will  run the batch file sitting somewhere in his room and
he
> > will get a message "Novell Netware Server not
> > Found".
> > Why this delay in connecting to Novell Netware through Cisco Switch.
The
> > same
> > delay is not happening while we are connecting to 3Com Switch.
> > We need you help and guidance to sort out this problem.
> > Ismail Al-shelh
> >
> > [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef]




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RE: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]

2002-03-05 Thread Larry Letterman

you have a delay of 50 seconds or so because cisco
uses the spanning tree protocol on most switches. This
causes the port to not activate your pc for that amount of time.

To resolve this, enable the port fast function on the port you
have the pc connected to.

I am sure someone here will explain it better than this, but this
the issue in a nutshell.


Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 10:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]


Dear all
We have Pc with 3Com 3c90x-Tx 10/100 Network Card.  This PC is installed
with Dos 6.22 Operating System.  We used to connect this to our 3com
Switch1100 with the dos driver provided by 3Com.  The sequence of loading
the 3com driver to connect to 3com Switch1100 is as follows:
LSL.COM
3C90X.EXE
IPXODI.COM
NETX.EXE
F:
LOGIN
This is in a batch file and when we run the batch file it will connect
immediately.
The problem I am facing while connect to CISCO CATALYST 2950-24 port is that
If I am
running the same batch file it will not connect.
I have to load the LSL.COM first and port on switch to which this computer
is connected will be in Green color. But When
I will load 3c90x.exe immediately the port on the switch color becomes
amber.
I have to wait for 1 to 1.5 minutes for the port color to become green
and after that if load IPXODI.COM and NETX.EXE then it will connect.
I can see this because I am sitting in front of the Cisco Switch.  In actual
the end user will  run the batch file sitting somewhere in his room and he
will get a message "Novell Netware Server not
Found".
Why this delay in connecting to Novell Netware through Cisco Switch.  The
same
delay is not happening while we are connecting to 3Com Switch.
We need you help and guidance to sort out this problem.
Ismail Al-shelh

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Re: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]

2002-03-05 Thread Brian

If you connect a computer to a switch port, it takes spanning tree a bit to
allow traffic to pass.  If this is an individual host being connected, you
could try disabling spanning tree on the port..

Bri

- Original Message -
From: "Ismail Al-Shelh" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 10:44 PM
Subject: Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]


> Dear all
> We have Pc with 3Com 3c90x-Tx 10/100 Network Card.  This PC is installed
> with Dos 6.22 Operating System.  We used to connect this to our 3com
> Switch1100 with the dos driver provided by 3Com.  The sequence of loading
> the 3com driver to connect to 3com Switch1100 is as follows:
> LSL.COM
> 3C90X.EXE
> IPXODI.COM
> NETX.EXE
> F:
> LOGIN
> This is in a batch file and when we run the batch file it will connect
> immediately.
> The problem I am facing while connect to CISCO CATALYST 2950-24 port is
that
> If I am
> running the same batch file it will not connect.
> I have to load the LSL.COM first and port on switch to which this computer
> is connected will be in Green color. But When
> I will load 3c90x.exe immediately the port on the switch color becomes
> amber.
> I have to wait for 1 to 1.5 minutes for the port color to become green
> and after that if load IPXODI.COM and NETX.EXE then it will connect.
> I can see this because I am sitting in front of the Cisco Switch.  In
actual
> the end user will  run the batch file sitting somewhere in his room and he
> will get a message "Novell Netware Server not
> Found".
> Why this delay in connecting to Novell Netware through Cisco Switch.  The
> same
> delay is not happening while we are connecting to 3Com Switch.
> We need you help and guidance to sort out this problem.
> Ismail Al-shelh
>
> [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef]




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Cat 2950-24 [7:37374]

2002-03-05 Thread Ismail Al-Shelh

Dear all 
We have Pc with 3Com 3c90x-Tx 10/100 Network Card.  This PC is installed 
with Dos 6.22 Operating System.  We used to connect this to our 3com 
Switch1100 with the dos driver provided by 3Com.  The sequence of loading 
the 3com driver to connect to 3com Switch1100 is as follows: 
LSL.COM 
3C90X.EXE 
IPXODI.COM 
NETX.EXE 
F: 
LOGIN 
This is in a batch file and when we run the batch file it will connect 
immediately. 
The problem I am facing while connect to CISCO CATALYST 2950-24 port is that
If I am 
running the same batch file it will not connect. 
I have to load the LSL.COM first and port on switch to which this computer 
is connected will be in Green color. But When 
I will load 3c90x.exe immediately the port on the switch color becomes 
amber. 
I have to wait for 1 to 1.5 minutes for the port color to become green 
and after that if load IPXODI.COM and NETX.EXE then it will connect. 
I can see this because I am sitting in front of the Cisco Switch.  In actual
the end user will  run the batch file sitting somewhere in his room and he
will get a message "Novell Netware Server not 
Found". 
Why this delay in connecting to Novell Netware through Cisco Switch.  The
same 
delay is not happening while we are connecting to 3Com Switch. 
We need you help and guidance to sort out this problem.
Ismail Al-shelh

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