Re: Cisco XXXX series router? [7:1433]
i recommend the 16. you will get more money as you grow older and you can buy bigger ticket items then. If you want to do T/R you should think about a used 2500. With 3000$ dollars you could easily buy 3 routers and cables to connect them. You may also look into the 1602 it has a 56k dsu that can be hooked up b-to-b to do dialer commands and you could put a1-port asy/sy serial card into the 1602 and do serial conncections and look at hdlc and above (PPP, Frame) for serial connections These are low cost fully functional routers that will be useful all the way to CCIE Three routers hooked b-to-b for home is the best place to start a routing lab Don - Original Message - From: "Aaron Vose" To: Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 5:48 PM Subject: Cisco XXXX series router? [7:1433] > Hey all, i haven't taken the CCDA test that i mentioned earlier yet, > but i did have a question for all the Gurus about a 1600 - 1700 - 2600 > series router. Here's the thing, from my summer job (i'm 17), i'm going to > have about 3000$, and i really want to get a cisco router both for my own > training, and for use at home. I want to go with somthing that's modular, > and not UNGODLY expensive, so that's why i'm leaning twords a 16/1700 series > router. But i would really like to get a 2600 series router, because i know > one of the 2600 models can connect token ring and ethernet networks. That > would be nice, because i have set up a token ring netwrk at 16Mbps just for > the hell of it, and it would be nice if i could actually use it for somthing > :) Not only that, but it has more WIC slots, and it also has a expandable > network slot. This would also be nice... The 8-analog modem card was > particularly attractive.. i could set my own mini ISP, if not just use it > for myself as a backup line. What would you all suggest? I know i'm buying > whatever i get used, but i still can't quite decide. Heh, not only that, > but the 2600 looks a hell of a lot cooler ;) Does the 16/1700 series > support ISO release 12.x? And what kind of processing speed diffrence is > there? RAM / FLASH limit diffrences? I'm just a tad bit lost about this > one. Thanks guys! > > ~Aaron Vose > CCNA, A+ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1597&t=1433 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco XXXX series router? [7:1433]
Even better idea- save a lot more money on virtually the same devices. 3101 2 Ethernet- I have IOS 12.0(9) IP/Firewall (cable modem router) 3102 1 Fast Serial, 1 Ethernet- I have IOS 12.0(9) Enterprise 3104 2 Fast Serial, 1 Ethernet, 1 S/T BRI - I have IOS 12.0(8) Enterprise 3202 1 Fast Serial, 1 Token Ring- 4 Megs imbedded FLASH- can fit 11.2(18) Enterprise 3204 2 Fast Serial, 1 Token Ring, 1 S/T BRI - I have IOS 12.0(8) Enterprise ~All router can be upgraded to a MAX of 8 FLASH (except for the 3202), 16 Megs RAM, & the latest version 9.X boot ROM's (11.0's are not needed). I have all images compressed with MZMaker. Estimated cost for my 3104, 3204, & (2) 3102's (sold the 3202) "upgraded" is just a little more than the $1000 I paid for my AS2511. Just some ideas from a cheap-skate :o) Have a good weekend everybody !!! Phil - Original Message - From: Daniel Cotts To: Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 10:09 PM Subject: RE: Cisco series router? [7:1433] > I'll take a different tack on desireable routers. Rather than having one > great router let me suggest several good routers. The 2500 series is > reasonably priced in the used market. How about: > > 2523 2 Fast Serial, 8 Sync/Async Serial, 1 TR, 1 ISDN BRI S/T > 2513 2 Fast Serial ,1 Ethernet, 1 Token Ring > 2503 2 Fast Serial, 1 Ethernet, 1 ISDN BRI S/T > 2509 2 Fast Serial, 1 Ethernet, 8 Async Serial > > Check out completed auctions on eBay to see how close this comes to your > budget. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Aaron Vose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 7:48 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Cisco series router? [7:1433] > > > > > > Hey all, i haven't taken the CCDA test that i mentioned earlier yet, > > but i did have a question for all the Gurus about a 1600 - 1700 - 2600 > > series router. Here's the thing, from my summer job (i'm > > 17), i'm going to > > have about 3000$, and i really want to get a cisco router > > both for my own > > training, and for use at home. I want to go with somthing > > that's modular, > > and not UNGODLY expensive, so that's why i'm leaning twords a > > 16/1700 series > > router. But i would really like to get a 2600 series router, > > because i know > > one of the 2600 models can connect token ring and ethernet > > networks. That > > would be nice, because i have set up a token ring netwrk at > > 16Mbps just for > > the hell of it, and it would be nice if i could actually use > > it for somthing > > :) Not only that, but it has more WIC slots, and it also has > > a expandable > > network slot. This would also be nice... The 8-analog modem card was > > particularly attractive.. i could set my own mini ISP, if not > > just use it > > for myself as a backup line. What would you all suggest? I > > know i'm buying > > whatever i get used, but i still can't quite decide. Heh, > > not only that, > > but the 2600 looks a hell of a lot cooler ;) Does the 16/1700 series > > support ISO release 12.x? And what kind of processing speed > > diffrence is > > there? RAM / FLASH limit diffrences? I'm just a tad bit > > lost about this > > one. Thanks guys! > > > > ~Aaron Vose > > CCNA, A+ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct > > and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1490&t=1433 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco XXXX series router? [7:1433]
Amen, Daniel. I can't see blowing it all on one (or even two) routers when you can make a really nice lab with that amount of money. I guess it all comes down to what your needs are. If it's to have cool equipment you want to use and be able to upgrade with different parts, the module routers fit that bill. If it's to get a practice lab to get your CCNP and then on to the CCIE, I'd say go with Daniel's suggestion, or something like it based on the 2500 fixed-port line. I know it sucks to have to go with "non-cool" old stuff, but it's the wiser choice for studying and cost, IMHO. Regarding the 1600 vs. 1700, the 1600 line comes as a the original 1601-1604 set line, and the newer 1601-1605R line (run from flash). The Flash is not interchangeable between the non-R and R line (not sure on RAM). The 1700 line is nice, and the processor is noticeably faster. Of course, the 1700 is the lower "VPN" router (you can do it with even a 2500, but for performance reasons the 1700 is the lowest recommended), and even has a hardware accelerator VPN module. Plus you get on VoIP slot on the 1750. Note that Scott Dees is incorrect stating the 1750 has 3 WIC slots. It has 2 WIC slots and one VWIC-only slot. That said, I like having my own 1605R that my company paid for, and have been trying to convince my boss I need a 1750 + ADSL WIC + ENET WIC + VWIC 2-FX0 so that I can be fully redundant with internet access at home (ENET would go to a cable modem, hmm, and maybe even use the AUX as a backup interface for my ADSL to SBC/PBI as I get a free dial-up account with ADSL). FX0 would be so I could hook my home phone line into my own little AVVID network at home (CallManager + Unity Voicemail + Unity ActiveFax, woohoo!). Talk about the ultimate home office setup for telecommuting (and of course I'd be VPNing into the company network to do least-cost-routing off their PSTN and have access to VoIP internal phones). Techno-lust, gotta love it. -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ ""Daniel Cotts"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I'll take a different tack on desireable routers. Rather than having one > great router let me suggest several good routers. The 2500 series is > reasonably priced in the used market. How about: > > 2523 2 Fast Serial, 8 Sync/Async Serial, 1 TR, 1 ISDN BRI S/T > 2513 2 Fast Serial ,1 Ethernet, 1 Token Ring > 2503 2 Fast Serial, 1 Ethernet, 1 ISDN BRI S/T > 2509 2 Fast Serial, 1 Ethernet, 8 Async Serial > > Check out completed auctions on eBay to see how close this comes to your > budget. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Aaron Vose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 7:48 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Cisco series router? [7:1433] > > > > > > Hey all, i haven't taken the CCDA test that i mentioned earlier yet, > > but i did have a question for all the Gurus about a 1600 - 1700 - 2600 > > series router. Here's the thing, from my summer job (i'm > > 17), i'm going to > > have about 3000$, and i really want to get a cisco router > > both for my own > > training, and for use at home. I want to go with somthing > > that's modular, > > and not UNGODLY expensive, so that's why i'm leaning twords a > > 16/1700 series > > router. But i would really like to get a 2600 series router, > > because i know > > one of the 2600 models can connect token ring and ethernet > > networks. That > > would be nice, because i have set up a token ring netwrk at > > 16Mbps just for > > the hell of it, and it would be nice if i could actually use > > it for somthing > > :) Not only that, but it has more WIC slots, and it also has > > a expandable > > network slot. This would also be nice... The 8-analog modem card was > > particularly attractive.. i could set my own mini ISP, if not > > just use it > > for myself as a backup line. What would you all suggest? I > > know i'm buying > > whatever i get used, but i still can't quite decide. Heh, > > not only that, > > but the 2600 looks a hell of a lot cooler ;) Does the 16/1700 series > > support ISO release 12.x? And what kind of processing speed > > diffrence is > > there? RAM / FLASH limit diffrences? I'm just a tad bit > > lost about this > > one. Thanks guys! > > > > ~Aaron Vose > > CCNA, A+ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct > > and Nondisclosure violat
RE: Cisco XXXX series router? [7:1433]
I'll take a different tack on desireable routers. Rather than having one great router let me suggest several good routers. The 2500 series is reasonably priced in the used market. How about: 2523 2 Fast Serial, 8 Sync/Async Serial, 1 TR, 1 ISDN BRI S/T 2513 2 Fast Serial ,1 Ethernet, 1 Token Ring 2503 2 Fast Serial, 1 Ethernet, 1 ISDN BRI S/T 2509 2 Fast Serial, 1 Ethernet, 8 Async Serial Check out completed auctions on eBay to see how close this comes to your budget. > -Original Message- > From: Aaron Vose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 7:48 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Cisco XXXX series router? [7:1433] > > > Hey all, i haven't taken the CCDA test that i mentioned earlier yet, > but i did have a question for all the Gurus about a 1600 - 1700 - 2600 > series router. Here's the thing, from my summer job (i'm > 17), i'm going to > have about 3000$, and i really want to get a cisco router > both for my own > training, and for use at home. I want to go with somthing > that's modular, > and not UNGODLY expensive, so that's why i'm leaning twords a > 16/1700 series > router. But i would really like to get a 2600 series router, > because i know > one of the 2600 models can connect token ring and ethernet > networks. That > would be nice, because i have set up a token ring netwrk at > 16Mbps just for > the hell of it, and it would be nice if i could actually use > it for somthing > :) Not only that, but it has more WIC slots, and it also has > a expandable > network slot. This would also be nice... The 8-analog modem card was > particularly attractive.. i could set my own mini ISP, if not > just use it > for myself as a backup line. What would you all suggest? I > know i'm buying > whatever i get used, but i still can't quite decide. Heh, > not only that, > but the 2600 looks a hell of a lot cooler ;) Does the 16/1700 series > support ISO release 12.x? And what kind of processing speed > diffrence is > there? RAM / FLASH limit diffrences? I'm just a tad bit > lost about this > one. Thanks guys! > > ~Aaron Vose > CCNA, A+ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct > and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1442&t=1433 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco XXXX series router? [7:1433]
First of all the 1600 to 1700 router series are merely remote office routers. The 1700 will support full IOS 12.x and if you get a 1750 you will have three wic card slots and 48mb of ram with 16mb of flash. This is a nice router but limited and not very scalable. The 2600 is considered a Distribution level router and is a lot more scalable. I am getting one and it is a lot cheaper than 3000 dollars. You can get on on EBAY for about 1700 with a T1 wic in it. It's all up to you and how scalable you want to go. 3 grand should get you a nice router. I would go with a 2650. Scott "Aaron Vose" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hey all, i haven't taken the CCDA test that i mentioned earlier yet, > but i did have a question for all the Gurus about a 1600 - 1700 - 2600 > series router. Here's the thing, from my summer job (i'm 17), i'm going to > have about 3000$, and i really want to get a cisco router both for my own > training, and for use at home. I want to go with somthing that's modular, > and not UNGODLY expensive, so that's why i'm leaning twords a 16/1700 series > router. But i would really like to get a 2600 series router, because i know > one of the 2600 models can connect token ring and ethernet networks. That > would be nice, because i have set up a token ring netwrk at 16Mbps just for > the hell of it, and it would be nice if i could actually use it for somthing > :) Not only that, but it has more WIC slots, and it also has a expandable > network slot. This would also be nice... The 8-analog modem card was > particularly attractive.. i could set my own mini ISP, if not just use it > for myself as a backup line. What would you all suggest? I know i'm buying > whatever i get used, but i still can't quite decide. Heh, not only that, > but the 2600 looks a hell of a lot cooler ;) Does the 16/1700 series > support ISO release 12.x? And what kind of processing speed diffrence is > there? RAM / FLASH limit diffrences? I'm just a tad bit lost about this > one. Thanks guys! > > ~Aaron Vose > CCNA, A+ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1441&t=1433 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco XXXX series router? [7:1433]
Hey all, i haven't taken the CCDA test that i mentioned earlier yet, but i did have a question for all the Gurus about a 1600 - 1700 - 2600 series router. Here's the thing, from my summer job (i'm 17), i'm going to have about 3000$, and i really want to get a cisco router both for my own training, and for use at home. I want to go with somthing that's modular, and not UNGODLY expensive, so that's why i'm leaning twords a 16/1700 series router. But i would really like to get a 2600 series router, because i know one of the 2600 models can connect token ring and ethernet networks. That would be nice, because i have set up a token ring netwrk at 16Mbps just for the hell of it, and it would be nice if i could actually use it for somthing :) Not only that, but it has more WIC slots, and it also has a expandable network slot. This would also be nice... The 8-analog modem card was particularly attractive.. i could set my own mini ISP, if not just use it for myself as a backup line. What would you all suggest? I know i'm buying whatever i get used, but i still can't quite decide. Heh, not only that, but the 2600 looks a hell of a lot cooler ;) Does the 16/1700 series support ISO release 12.x? And what kind of processing speed diffrence is there? RAM / FLASH limit diffrences? I'm just a tad bit lost about this one. Thanks guys! ~Aaron Vose CCNA, A+ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1433&t=1433 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
