RE: Doing things backwards - Question for the CCDPs in the list.
If you understand 'Cisco' tests taking the DCN cold should not be too bad. The test is unlike any other, and it will benefit you if you study books like Priscilla's. However, CID is much harder in my opinion regarding actual knowledge of systems, and neither will qualify you to actually design networks. Good luck. --- Dennis Laganiere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I took the test for the CCDA last year I found it to be the most "fun" of any of the tests. Just read the Cisco Press book and take the test; no cramming or learning commands. It's about the easiest test I've ever taken, and I've been doing certs forever (currently MCSE+I, CCNP/CCDP, CCIE candidate; lapsed CNE, XCSS, and an bunch more over the years)... --- Dennis -Original Message- From: Miller, Nathan - BSC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 8:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Doing things backwards - Question for the CCDPs in the list. I know that this is not the list for CCDA questions but I hope that you will humor me. I have recently completed CCNP and studied with another engineer who was already CCDA certified. We studied for the CID (640-025) exam together and I passed this exam today. My question is this: Is the DCN (CCDA) exam sufficiently different from the CID that I will need to study for it separately or will the prep for the CID exam suffice. Thanks in advance for your advice. Nathan Miller, CCNP Enterprise Network Engineer Catholic Healthcare West 602-307-2659 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Doing things backwards - Question for the CCDPs in the list.
I have done a groupstudy archive search. It is well documented that Top-Down Network Design is an excellent design guide and prep tool for CCDA. In addition to this book, and work experience, what is recommended in preparation for the CID exam? Two recommendations from the archive were: Internetwork Design Guide http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/idg4/ and Online Course Material http://www.vstream.com/login/CISCOCID/CISCOCID_login.vhtm Scott T. Wolfe CCNP, MCSE+I, CCDA "Priscilla Oppenheimer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... CID and DCN are quite different, but that doesn't mean you'll have a hard time with DCN necessarily. DCN tests design skills and knowledge about design methodologies, whereas CID tests technology knowledge. DCN has case studies and expects you to glean requirements, info about the existing network, etc. from the case study. DCN is focused on small to medium-sized networks, whereas CID is supposedly for larger networks (despite the zillions of Microsoft networking questions on CID). If you have experience, you might do fine on DCN without studying, but your best bet is to do a bit of studying, especially since Cisco expects you to know their methodology. For example, when would you test your design using a prototype versus a pilot? (A question that I'm sure I missed since I still don't understand how Cisco distinguishes the two. ;-) Priscilla At 09:17 AM 3/2/01, you wrote: I know that this is not the list for CCDA questions but I hope that you will humor me. I have recently completed CCNP and studied with another engineer who was already CCDA certified. We studied for the CID (640-025) exam together and I passed this exam today. My question is this: Is the DCN (CCDA) exam sufficiently different from the CID that I will need to study for it separately or will the prep for the CID exam suffice. Thanks in advance for your advice. Nathan Miller, CCNP Enterprise Network Engineer Catholic Healthcare West 602-307-2659 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Doing things backwards - Question for the CCDPs in the list.
I know that this is not the list for CCDA questions but I hope that you will humor me. I have recently completed CCNP and studied with another engineer who was already CCDA certified. We studied for the CID (640-025) exam together and I passed this exam today. My question is this: Is the DCN (CCDA) exam sufficiently different from the CID that I will need to study for it separately or will the prep for the CID exam suffice. Thanks in advance for your advice. Nathan Miller, CCNP Enterprise Network Engineer Catholic Healthcare West 602-307-2659 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Doing things backwards - Question for the CCDPs in the list.
The CCDA exam has a lot of case study questions and at least 30 of the questions are case study so make sure that you do all the case studies at the end of Cisco's DCN book. the CID exam does not have any case studies. Reza CCNP,CCDP ""Miller, Nathan - BSC"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I know that this is not the list for CCDA questions but I hope that you will humor me. I have recently completed CCNP and studied with another engineer who was already CCDA certified. We studied for the CID (640-025) exam together and I passed this exam today. My question is this: Is the DCN (CCDA) exam sufficiently different from the CID that I will need to study for it separately or will the prep for the CID exam suffice. Thanks in advance for your advice. Nathan Miller, CCNP Enterprise Network Engineer Catholic Healthcare West 602-307-2659 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Doing things backwards - Question for the CCDPs in the list.
When I took the test for the CCDA last year I found it to be the most "fun" of any of the tests. Just read the Cisco Press book and take the test; no cramming or learning commands. It's about the easiest test I've ever taken, and I've been doing certs forever (currently MCSE+I, CCNP/CCDP, CCIE candidate; lapsed CNE, XCSS, and an bunch more over the years)... --- Dennis -Original Message- From: Miller, Nathan - BSC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 8:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Doing things backwards - Question for the CCDPs in the list. I know that this is not the list for CCDA questions but I hope that you will humor me. I have recently completed CCNP and studied with another engineer who was already CCDA certified. We studied for the CID (640-025) exam together and I passed this exam today. My question is this: Is the DCN (CCDA) exam sufficiently different from the CID that I will need to study for it separately or will the prep for the CID exam suffice. Thanks in advance for your advice. Nathan Miller, CCNP Enterprise Network Engineer Catholic Healthcare West 602-307-2659 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Doing things backwards - Question for the CCDPs in the list.
IMHO as the CCDA exam stands, if you have a basic understanding of networking the "Cisco way" (ie CCNA) and more importantly have good proficiency with English, it'll be a breeze. After the exam I was actually disappointed I got a couple questions wrong! heh I also realized why the pass:fail ratio is as poor as it's rumoured to be. Native English speakers have a huge advantage when taking this exam in English. If you've taken a number of technical exams before and are good at reading into questions you can almost always eliminate some of the distracters and select the key just by reading the question... you don't even really need the case study most of the time. Still, I loved the preparation process for the CCDA exam. Reading the DCN text and Priscilla's Top Down Network Design till I felt I really understood them is professionally one of the best things I've ever done for myself. There's a LOT to mull over and understand there, especially in Top Down Network Design. I guess that's why I thought the exam itself was such a letdown. The steps leading up to it were so fascinating and relevant. I remember discussing it with my fellow techie geek fiancee afterwards and calling the CCDA just "CCNA + reading comprehension". Long story short if you're a CCNP, have prepared for CID, and work in the field it shouldn't be much of a problem at all. That's my rant for the day, Brandon - CCNP+YPK :) based on discussion over the last week, maybe Cisco should make "+YPK" and "+OGC" specializations? :) -Original Message- From: Miller, Nathan - BSC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 11:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Doing things backwards - Question for the CCDPs in the list. I know that this is not the list for CCDA questions but I hope that you will humor me. I have recently completed CCNP and studied with another engineer who was already CCDA certified. We studied for the CID (640-025) exam together and I passed this exam today. My question is this: Is the DCN (CCDA) exam sufficiently different from the CID that I will need to study for it separately or will the prep for the CID exam suffice. Thanks in advance for your advice. Nathan Miller, CCNP Enterprise Network Engineer Catholic Healthcare West 602-307-2659 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Doing things backwards - Question for the CCDPs in the list.
CID and DCN are quite different, but that doesn't mean you'll have a hard time with DCN necessarily. DCN tests design skills and knowledge about design methodologies, whereas CID tests technology knowledge. DCN has case studies and expects you to glean requirements, info about the existing network, etc. from the case study. DCN is focused on small to medium-sized networks, whereas CID is supposedly for larger networks (despite the zillions of Microsoft networking questions on CID). If you have experience, you might do fine on DCN without studying, but your best bet is to do a bit of studying, especially since Cisco expects you to know their methodology. For example, when would you test your design using a prototype versus a pilot? (A question that I'm sure I missed since I still don't understand how Cisco distinguishes the two. ;-) Priscilla At 09:17 AM 3/2/01, you wrote: I know that this is not the list for CCDA questions but I hope that you will humor me. I have recently completed CCNP and studied with another engineer who was already CCDA certified. We studied for the CID (640-025) exam together and I passed this exam today. My question is this: Is the DCN (CCDA) exam sufficiently different from the CID that I will need to study for it separately or will the prep for the CID exam suffice. Thanks in advance for your advice. Nathan Miller, CCNP Enterprise Network Engineer Catholic Healthcare West 602-307-2659 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
