Re: Douglas Comer
The Stevens series is outstanding as well, but in a different way. If you are looking for a hands-on, UNIX-centric, in depth analysis of the TCP/IP suite, then the Stevens series is for you. If you want a full treatment of the protocols from a purely theoretical perspective, then you want Comer's Volume 1. If you want to understand how to implement these protocols in code (and perhaps get a perspective on how vendors do this), then you want Comer's Volumes 2 and 3. I say, get all 6! I did, and it was the loneliest year of my life, but damn did I learn something! [=`) Dale [=`) From: mamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: mamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Douglas Comer Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 20:01:04 +0200 They are good book, but I prefer Stevens TCP/IP illustrated series. They are the best technical book I have. Mamo DS I'm sure there was some discussion before in group about Douglas Comer, DS however I was unable to relocate it. DS Question: DS Has anyone an opinion on his three volume series: DS TCP/IP Vol. I DS Internetworking With TCP/IPVol II DS Internetworking With TCP/IPVol III DS Any knowledgeable feedback appreciated. Thanks. DS [EMAIL PROTECTED] DS **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to DS http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html DS _ DS UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html DS FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com DS Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, mamomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Douglas Comer
I have both books and I find the Stevens book to be very readable and informative. The Stevens book is by far superior. Stevens had a rare gift for explaining complex and obscure details in a very enjoyable style. One caveat though, the book uses the UNIX freeware command "tcpdump", so the book is best used in conjunction with a UNIX system on a live network. By using "tcpdump" the reader can view live network traffic and understand at a deeper level what the Author is trying to explain. The book explains how to get tcpdump. Better yet, if you have Linux or BSD it comes already installed! As for obtaining volume II(Comer or Stevens), get it only if you are willing to invest a lot of time on TCP/IP internals(i.e. you better know how to read C syntax). Volume II is not pertinent to the pursuit of the CC[IE/NP/NA] Certs. But if you want to know TCP/IP inside and out, this is where you go. Scott Donoho [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of mamo Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 11:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Douglas Comer They are good book, but I prefer Stevens TCP/IP illustrated series. They are the best technical book I have. Mamo DS I'm sure there was some discussion before in group about Douglas Comer, DS however I was unable to relocate it. DS Question: DS Has anyone an opinion on his three volume series: DS TCP/IP Vol. I DS Internetworking With TCP/IPVol II DS Internetworking With TCP/IPVol III DS Any knowledgeable feedback appreciated. Thanks. DS [EMAIL PROTECTED] DS **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to DS http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html DS _ DS UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html DS FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com DS Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, mamomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Douglas Comer
Dr. Comer usually does a 1 day tutorial on the basics of TCP/IP at each Networld+Interop event. I haven't sat in on one, but I've heard great things about his class. Irwin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 10:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Douglas Comer Bible! **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Douglas Comer
/ I'm sure there was some discussion before in group about Douglas Comer, however I was unable to relocate it. Question: Has anyone an opinion on his three volume series: TCP/IP Vol. I Internetworking With TCP/IPVol II Internetworking With TCP/IPVol III Any knowledgeable feedback appreciated. Thanks. [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Douglas Comer
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Re: Douglas Comer
Hi I read his vol. 1 during my first year University degree years back, and it was very good - my first taste of TCP/IP, and i am still at it Kerry michael wrote: Bible! **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TCP/IP book...Douglas Comer/Stevens/Radia?
Hello group, I want to get a very good book on this particular subject..TCP/IP. I checked reviews on amazon.com for different books, can't decide which one I should get. They all seem very good. Douglas Comer book is..Internetworking with TCP/IP Stevesnts.TCP/IP Illustrated Vol 1 Radia..Interconnections with ... and there is another one...Jeff Doyle...Routing with TCP/IP (I am waiting for the new edition of this book, not out yet) I have taken MCSE TCP/IP exam a year back but that was for Windows NT 4.0. I want to learn it at advance level now, for Internetworking. I am finishing up my CCNP and will be going for CCIE soon. Any comments will be helpful. Thanks! ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TCP/IP book...Douglas Comer/Stevens/Radia?
Hello, If you are looking for books that focus strictly on the IP protocol suite (IP, TCP/UDP, ARP, ICMP, etc), I would not suggest Radia Perlman's "Interconnections" or Jeff Doyle's "Routing TCP/IP Volume 1". While "Interconnections" is an excellent text that addresses a lot of topics quite well, its coverage of TCP/IP is limited in comparison to the other books. And Doyle's book, while great in its own right, has as its primary focus IP routing protocols. Therefore, while there is some good information on IP itself (and associated protocols like ARP), I believe the title of the book, "Routing TCP/IP", states its focus quite well. That leaves the books by Stevens and Comer. Honestly, they are both excellent books that cover the IP protocol suite very well. I think it's really a toss up between the two books. My personal belief is that while the Comer book is great, the Steven's book covers the IP suite in a bit more detail . That said, if I were purchasing a TCP/IP book today, I might go with the Comer text strictly because it has been updated recently. Again, either way you go, I don't think you will be disappointed. Just my $0.02 (US) -Marcus At 06:05 PM 07/18/2000 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello group, I want to get a very good book on this particular subject..TCP/IP. I checked reviews on amazon.com for different books, can't decide which one I should get. They all seem very good. Douglas Comer book is..Internetworking with TCP/IP Stevesnts.TCP/IP Illustrated Vol 1 Radia..Interconnections with ... and there is another one...Jeff Doyle...Routing with TCP/IP (I am waiting for the new edition of this book, not out yet) I have taken MCSE TCP/IP exam a year back but that was for Windows NT 4.0. I want to learn it at advance level now, for Internetworking. I am finishing up my CCNP and will be going for CCIE soon. Any comments will be helpful. Thanks! ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Marcus A. Walton Lucent Technologies, Inc. NetworkCare Professional Services "The Knowledge Behind the Network" ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
