RE: Extended Ping and data pattern

2000-11-29 Thread Tim Lovelace

http://www.ieng.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/ics7750/tblshoot/tsseri
al.htm

Is a good link on Serial Line Troubleshooting. It also covers extended pings
and several data patterns

--- John lay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Guys,
>
> While studying the CIT. I read that using the
> extended ping you can change
> the data pattern (0xABCD the default) to debug data
> sensitivity problems on
> CSU/DSUs or to detect cable-related problems such as
> crosstalk.
> I don't understand that, did anybody tried it.
>
> Thanks a lot
>
>
>
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Re: Extended Ping and data pattern

2000-11-27 Thread Michael Le

It is used to stress test WAN connections. I don't
remember the details, but I think the theory is
certain telco equipment fail and detect certain data
patterns incoorrectly. WAN lines can work sometimes
for certain data/apps but for some others they don't.
It's weird, but I used to troubleshoot WAN lines and
it happens enough. Run data patterns like 0x or
0x or a variety of others. If any one of them
fail, call the telco and tell them.

--- John lay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Guys,
> 
> While studying the CIT. I read that using the
> extended ping you can change
> the data pattern (0xABCD the default) to debug data
> sensitivity problems on
> CSU/DSUs or to detect cable-related problems such as
> crosstalk.
> I don't understand that, did anybody tried it.
> 
> Thanks a lot
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
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Re: Extended Ping and data pattern

2000-11-26 Thread klittlet

I've used 0x pattern with mtu 1500 to find out if the line cant handle
an all zero's.
If this test fails it usually means a telco line coding mismatch (ami versus
b8zs)

I've also used the 0x4040 pattern ( any pattern with seven consecutive zeros
eg 0x1010, 0x8080 etc) to find marginal telco circuits.  I'm not sure why
this flushes out telco problems, but it has worked for me in the past.

I've used 0x in some of my tests but this doesn't usually have any
failures.  I think that this would show if a telco repeater was failing.

I hope this helps.

I've had some experience troubleshooting digital circuits for a global telco
so that's why I run through these tests.

Ken


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> Guys,
>
> While studying the CIT. I read that using the extended ping you can change
> the data pattern (0xABCD the default) to debug data sensitivity problems
on
> CSU/DSUs or to detect cable-related problems such as crosstalk.
> I don't understand that, did anybody tried it.
>
> Thanks a lot
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Extended Ping and data pattern

2000-11-26 Thread dennis rufolo

You can also use 0x and 0x4040 patterns.
Dennis Rufolo

Guy Tal wrote:

> I've done that before once or twice... the type of thing they are talking
> about is to send a 0x out to test all 1s and the like.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "John lay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 4:33 AM
> Subject: Extended Ping and data pattern
>
> > Guys,
> >
> > While studying the CIT. I read that using the extended ping you can change
> > the data pattern (0xABCD the default) to debug data sensitivity problems
> on
> > CSU/DSUs or to detect cable-related problems such as crosstalk.
> > I don't understand that, did anybody tried it.
> >
> > Thanks a lot
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Extended Ping and data pattern

2000-11-26 Thread Jack Walker

I would like to know whether somebody really found a problem in the CSU/DSU
or the cables by varying the pattern in the extened ping?
What is the relation between the patterns and problems? Say if I got CRCs
when using 0x, what does this mean? CSU/DSU or cable?

Thanks

Jack


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> I've done that before once or twice... the type of thing they are talking
> about is to send a 0x out to test all 1s and the like.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "John lay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 4:33 AM
> Subject: Extended Ping and data pattern
>
>
> > Guys,
> >
> > While studying the CIT. I read that using the extended ping you can
change
> > the data pattern (0xABCD the default) to debug data sensitivity problems
> on
> > CSU/DSUs or to detect cable-related problems such as crosstalk.
> > I don't understand that, did anybody tried it.
> >
> > Thanks a lot
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Extended Ping and data pattern

2000-11-26 Thread Guy Tal

I've done that before once or twice... the type of thing they are talking
about is to send a 0x out to test all 1s and the like.


- Original Message -
From: "John lay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 4:33 AM
Subject: Extended Ping and data pattern


> Guys,
>
> While studying the CIT. I read that using the extended ping you can change
> the data pattern (0xABCD the default) to debug data sensitivity problems
on
> CSU/DSUs or to detect cable-related problems such as crosstalk.
> I don't understand that, did anybody tried it.
>
> Thanks a lot
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Extended Ping and data pattern

2000-11-26 Thread Jason Roysdon

Quick snippit for those that may not have a router handy:
router#ping
Protocol [ip]:
Target IP address: 192.168.45.253
Repeat count [5]: 1000
Datagram size [100]: 1400
Timeout in seconds [2]:
Extended commands [n]: y
Source address or interface: ethernet1
Type of service [0]:
Set DF bit in IP header? [no]: yes
Validate reply data? [no]: yes
Data pattern [0xABCD]: 0x
Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]: verbose
Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[V]:
Sweep range of sizes [n]:
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 1000, 1400-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.45.253, timeout is 2 seconds:
Packet has data pattern 0x
Reply to request 0 (4 ms)
Reply to request 1 (8 ms)
Reply to request 2 (8 ms)

Reply to request 998 (8 ms)
Reply to request 999 (8 ms)
Success rate is 100 percent (1000/1000), round-trip min/avg/max = 4/6/32 ms


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> Hmmm, never knew that... but I always use the extended ping to test our
> connectiveity through a VPN to company remote locations. 5 pings isn't
> enough to determine if the connection is reliable, at least 50 better yet
> 100 if you are separated by a large geographically distance (as we are).
>
> Tim
>
>
> > Guys,
> >
> > While studying the CIT. I read that using the extended ping you can
change
> > the data pattern (0xABCD the default) to debug data sensitivity
> > problems on
> > CSU/DSUs or to detect cable-related problems such as crosstalk.
> > I don't understand that, did anybody tried it.
> >
> > Thanks a lot
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: Extended Ping and data pattern

2000-11-26 Thread Timothy Metz

Hmmm, never knew that... but I always use the extended ping to test our
connectiveity through a VPN to company remote locations. 5 pings isn't
enough to determine if the connection is reliable, at least 50 better yet
100 if you are separated by a large geographically distance (as we are).

Tim


> Guys,
>
> While studying the CIT. I read that using the extended ping you can change
> the data pattern (0xABCD the default) to debug data sensitivity
> problems on
> CSU/DSUs or to detect cable-related problems such as crosstalk.
> I don't understand that, did anybody tried it.
>
> Thanks a lot
>
>
>
>
>
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Extended Ping and data pattern

2000-11-26 Thread John lay

Guys,

While studying the CIT. I read that using the extended ping you can change
the data pattern (0xABCD the default) to debug data sensitivity problems on
CSU/DSUs or to detect cable-related problems such as crosstalk.
I don't understand that, did anybody tried it.

Thanks a lot





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