Re: Little OT: Variation on SRM vs. Config Sync [7:58317]

2002-11-30 Thread Reinhold Fischer
AFAIK there is no special interaction between SRM and HSRP.
You might want to use the 'standby preempt delay ' feature 
to be sure that routing protocols have converged before the router
is taking over hsrp active router functionality.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/619/hsrpguide4.shtmlT

hth

Reinhold


On Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 12:39:15AM +, s vermill wrote:
 This is very closely related to another active thread but thought I should
 probably start another.  I know better than to post on a Friday and expect
 much of an answer, but I could really use some insight on this one...
 
 I recently was looking at a network about to roll into production.  It's a
 classic collapsed core design with redundant dist/core 6509s.  I noticed
 that SRM was configured on each 6509.  I also noticed that there was an
HSRP
 instance per VLAN configured between the two chassis.  So, in the event of
 an MSFC failure, assuming the failed MSFC was the active HSRP router for a
 given VLAN or group of VLANs, I guess the other chassis' designated MSFC
 would start picking up outbound traffic (normal HSRP stuff).  In the mean
 time, the SRM process would be taking place on the chassis where the
 designated MSFC had failed.  At what point, if at all, would the outbound
 traffic shift back to the chassis with the failed MSFC (assuming of course
 that the non-designated MSFC had successfully come online)?  Is it a simple
 matter of whether or not preemt is configured?  Or, would the switch to the
 other chassis ever even take place?  Could it be that the non-designated
 MSFC would come online and immediately take over as the active HSRP
router?
 That seems possible too.  Maybe it comes down to how you set all the
 relevant timers?
 
 I couldn't find any example on CCO where SRM and HSRP were used together. 
 In every case, SRM was used or HSRP was used with config sync.  Never both
 together.
 
 Any thoughts?  Any experience?  It isn't an option at the moment to do too
 much experimenting.  Besides, I'm not sure exactly how I would simulate a
 true MSFC failure to see what happens.  Any thoughts there would also be
 appreciated.
 
 Thanks all...
 
 Scott




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Re: Little OT: Variation on SRM vs. Config Sync [7:58317]

2002-11-30 Thread s vermill
Eric, Reinhold,

Thank you.  It makes sense that if the non-DR MSFC doesn't maintain a
routing table (which it apparently doesn't), the standby HSRP router would
need to handle traffic for at least a brief while.  Delaying the preempt on
the non-DR sounds like a wise move.  Or maybe not using preempt at all.

Thanks again,

Scott 

Erick B. wrote:
 
 Scott,
 
 Normal HSRP rules would be in effect in this scenario
 I would say (haven't done this yet). If the failed
 unit had a higher HSRP priority and was configured to
 preempt then when it came back online it would become
 active HSRP router.
 

Reinhold Fischer wrote:
 
 AFAIK there is no special interaction between SRM and HSRP.
 You might want to use the 'standby preempt delay '
 feature
 to be sure that routing protocols have converged before the
 router
 is taking over hsrp active router functionality.
 
 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/619/hsrpguide4.shtmlT
 
 hth
 
 Reinhold
 



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Little OT: Variation on SRM vs. Config Sync [7:58317]

2002-11-29 Thread s vermill
This is very closely related to another active thread but thought I should
probably start another.  I know better than to post on a Friday and expect
much of an answer, but I could really use some insight on this one...

I recently was looking at a network about to roll into production.  It's a
classic collapsed core design with redundant dist/core 6509s.  I noticed
that SRM was configured on each 6509.  I also noticed that there was an HSRP
instance per VLAN configured between the two chassis.  So, in the event of
an MSFC failure, assuming the failed MSFC was the active HSRP router for a
given VLAN or group of VLANs, I guess the other chassis' designated MSFC
would start picking up outbound traffic (normal HSRP stuff).  In the mean
time, the SRM process would be taking place on the chassis where the
designated MSFC had failed.  At what point, if at all, would the outbound
traffic shift back to the chassis with the failed MSFC (assuming of course
that the non-designated MSFC had successfully come online)?  Is it a simple
matter of whether or not preemt is configured?  Or, would the switch to the
other chassis ever even take place?  Could it be that the non-designated
MSFC would come online and immediately take over as the active HSRP router? 
That seems possible too.  Maybe it comes down to how you set all the
relevant timers?

I couldn't find any example on CCO where SRM and HSRP were used together. 
In every case, SRM was used or HSRP was used with config sync.  Never both
together.

Any thoughts?  Any experience?  It isn't an option at the moment to do too
much experimenting.  Besides, I'm not sure exactly how I would simulate a
true MSFC failure to see what happens.  Any thoughts there would also be
appreciated.

Thanks all...

Scott



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Re: Little OT: Variation on SRM vs. Config Sync [7:58317]

2002-11-29 Thread Erick B.
Scott,

Normal HSRP rules would be in effect in this scenario
I would say (haven't done this yet). If the failed
unit had a higher HSRP priority and was configured to
preempt then when it came back online it would become
active HSRP router.

--- s vermill  wrote:
 This is very closely related to another active
 thread but thought I should
 probably start another.  I know better than to post
 on a Friday and expect
 much of an answer, but I could really use some
 insight on this one...
 
 I recently was looking at a network about to roll
 into production.  It's a
 classic collapsed core design with redundant
 dist/core 6509s.  I noticed
 that SRM was configured on each 6509.  I also
 noticed that there was an HSRP
 instance per VLAN configured between the two
 chassis.  So, in the event of
 an MSFC failure, assuming the failed MSFC was the
 active HSRP router for a
 given VLAN or group of VLANs, I guess the other
 chassis' designated MSFC
 would start picking up outbound traffic (normal HSRP
 stuff).  In the mean
 time, the SRM process would be taking place on the
 chassis where the
 designated MSFC had failed.  At what point, if at
 all, would the outbound
 traffic shift back to the chassis with the failed
 MSFC (assuming of course
 that the non-designated MSFC had successfully come
 online)?  Is it a simple
 matter of whether or not preemt is configured?  Or,
 would the switch to the
 other chassis ever even take place?  Could it be
 that the non-designated
 MSFC would come online and immediately take over as
 the active HSRP router? 
 That seems possible too.  Maybe it comes down to how
 you set all the
 relevant timers?
 
 I couldn't find any example on CCO where SRM and
 HSRP were used together. 
 In every case, SRM was used or HSRP was used with
 config sync.  Never both
 together.
 
 Any thoughts?  Any experience?  It isn't an option
 at the moment to do too
 much experimenting.  Besides, I'm not sure exactly
 how I would simulate a
 true MSFC failure to see what happens.  Any thoughts
 there would also be
 appreciated.
 
 Thanks all...
 
 Scott


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