NT domain access after connecting through VPN [7:66618]

2003-04-01 Thread Doug Korell
I am using a PIX and VPN client 3.6 and getting in works just fine. Problem
is I want to connect to NT domain resources across the board after logging
into VPN. I know you can connect to network shares using alternate username
and password but for things like remote event logs on the domain, you don't
get prompted and will be denied.

I am aware that you can have VPN connect before logging into Windows and
then log into the domain after VPN is connected but I don't want to alter
people's computers that are logging in locally. I would rather get access to
the domain after logging in locally and then the VPN.


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Re: NT domain access after connecting through VPN [7:66618]

2003-04-01 Thread Adam
>From my experiences in deploying both pix and the 3000 series concentrators,
the question of 'seamless' authentication or access to network resources
once connected to the vpn is always an issue.
To get around this I have seen various methods utilized, each of which has
catches and possibly user's computers altered which throws a wrench into
things if we're talking home users PC's etc.  Argh.
The first method, is what you have already mentioned which is to have the
cisco client load before the windows login prompt and establish the vpn, and
then use the regular domain username and password, which will provide full
resource authentication based on the NT account rights.
I have been successful with this method and have found it to work quite
reliably.  The other methods I have used is kind of clunky in my own opinion
which is a) have the users authenticate to the vpn, then distribute a batch
file login script with the 'user' switch in it, which when executed will
prompt the user for a password once, and then cache the authenticaiton
credentials for future resource requests or b) Create a matching profile on
the local machine that matches the username/password created in the NT
database which will allow the seamleass authentication affect.
As you can see, a & b are not scalable and require more configuration of the
user's machine and ability on the user's part.
I apologize for the long winded reply, and I hope this sheds some light on
the topic.  I am interested to hear of anyone else's solutions to this
problem.  Utltimately I think with your specific case, seamless
authentication is your only route (ie. using the client boot before startup
method) as the domain event logs will not prompt you to authenticate, in
which case cached credentials have to be used.

Cheers.

Adam

> I am using a PIX and VPN client 3.6 and getting in works just fine. Problem
> is I want to connect to NT domain resources across the board after logging
> into VPN. I know you can connect to network shares using alternate username
> and password but for things like remote event logs on the domain, you don't
> get prompted and will be denied.
> 
> I am aware that you can have VPN connect before logging into Windows and
> then log into the domain after VPN is connected but I don't want to alter
> people's computers that are logging in locally. I would rather get access
to
> the domain after logging in locally and then the VPN.




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Re: NT domain access after connecting through VPN [7:66618]

2003-04-02 Thread Doug Korell
Thanks for your input. I'm looking around at other vendors to see what they
offer with this. One thing I don't like with the PIX vpn is the lack of
logging capabilites. I want to know when someone logged in, when the logged
out, where they went, etc. I'm looking at the concentrators but don't
remember seeing this. As far as I can see, AAA can do some of this but you
have to use http, ftp, or telnet.


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RE: NT domain access after connecting through VPN [7:66618]

2003-04-03 Thread Symon Thurlow
The Shiva client is pretty good, kicks off domain authentication after
the tunnel is up.

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Thanks for your input. I'm looking around at other vendors to see what
they offer with this. One thing I don't like with the PIX vpn is the
lack of logging capabilites. I want to know when someone logged in, when
the logged out, where they went, etc. I'm looking at the concentrators
but don't remember seeing this. As far as I can see, AAA can do some of
this but you have to use http, ftp, or telnet.
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