Passing CID [7:33784]
Passing this test #640-025 was the hardest yet. It took a couple of times. Now its on to CCIE and then the lab were the truth comes out. Some tell me that passing this brings you close to being prepared to take the CCIE written. I'll find out soon enough. To any one who cares using boson CCDP #1 & #3 helped . I started using the latest version of the CID exam prep from cisco press but found the earlier version of the book written by birkner a better source. The answers are very close to each other and need to be read carefully, they can be tricky. Watch out for the " which answer doesnt not belong " questions those can be the most difficult. Good luck, Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33784&t=33784 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passing CID [7:33784]
At 07:19 PM 1/30/02, brian hall wrote: >Passing this test #640-025 was the hardest yet. It took a couple of times. >Now its on to CCIE and then the lab were the truth comes out. >Some tell me that passing this brings you close to being prepared to take >the CCIE written. I'll find out soon enough. > >To any one who cares using boson CCDP #1 & #3 helped . > >I started using the latest version of the CID exam prep from cisco press but Exam prep guides are written with the goal of summarizing what you need to know. They are not the course materials, but go beyond in some ways, and may also skip some basic stuff. They can be great for review, but don't work for everyone as the primary source. >found the earlier version of the book written by birkner a better source. This wasn't an earlier version of the same book. It's a different book. This was the course materials ported to book format. The author should be Cisco (course developers) although in this case Birkner didn't exactly follow the script and added his own material and left some out. In general, Cisco Press develops at least two types of books: Certification guides: not written by Cisco, but still often very helpful Course book: training written by Cisco, ported to book format by an editor paid by Cisco Press, usually an excellent resource as the tests are taken from the course. A question came up about the different types of Cisco Press books in a different thread, so I responded here. (My other response never made it?) Anyway, congratulations on passing CID! It's a hard test. Good luck with CCIE. Priscilla >The answers are very close to each other and need to be read carefully, they >can be tricky. Watch out for the " which answer doesnt not belong " >questions those can be the most difficult. > >Good luck, Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33788&t=33784 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passing CID [7:33784]
Hi Priscilla, Questions like "which answer doesnt not belong " means what??? Is Cisco implying that the double negative means positive as we were taught years ago in algebra class or it should be ignored and taken for one negative. Am currently taking my CSS1 track, I wrote Cisco Secure VPN yesterday which happens to be the third exam in the series. I came accross a lot questions which made no sense at all. Looking at the question, it was not a question at all. it was not asking any particular thing, it had no meaning, no bearing, no sense in it, they are just like saying blablablablablablablabla. The more I read them the more I get confused and lost at what Cisco was tring to ask. Have you come accross questions that made you think 'What must be in the mind of the examiner when he was asking this question, which aspect of Network or Security implementation was he thinking of? What I normally do is to completely ignore the questions and eliminate the odd options in the answer, at the end of the day in many questions like these, I come out with NOT THE BEST ANSWER as they use to tell one, but rather a choice that made a different SENSE and MEANING than the other three or four. I sometimes ask whether the current Cisco questions were not originally written in English but were translated from another language and as such the transators did not do a good job or is it a deliberate action on the part of Cisco? If it were the former it is long time they take a closer look at it and if it is the later, what must have informed their actions? Regards. Godswill Oletu CCNP, CCDP. - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 4:57 PM Subject: Re: Passing CID [7:33784] > At 07:19 PM 1/30/02, brian hall wrote: > >Passing this test #640-025 was the hardest yet. It took a couple of times. > >Now its on to CCIE and then the lab were the truth comes out. > >Some tell me that passing this brings you close to being prepared to take > >the CCIE written. I'll find out soon enough. > > > >To any one who cares using boson CCDP #1 & #3 helped . > > > >I started using the latest version of the CID exam prep from cisco press but > > Exam prep guides are written with the goal of summarizing what you need to > know. They are not the course materials, but go beyond in some ways, and > may also skip some basic stuff. They can be great for review, but don't > work for everyone as the primary source. > > >found the earlier version of the book written by birkner a better source. > > This wasn't an earlier version of the same book. It's a different book. > This was the course materials ported to book format. The author should be > Cisco (course developers) although in this case Birkner didn't exactly > follow the script and added his own material and left some out. > > In general, Cisco Press develops at least two types of books: > > Certification guides: not written by Cisco, but still often very helpful > Course book: training written by Cisco, ported to book format by an editor > paid by Cisco Press, usually an excellent resource as the tests are taken > from the course. > > A question came up about the different types of Cisco Press books in a > different thread, so I responded here. (My other response never made it?) > > Anyway, congratulations on passing CID! It's a hard test. Good luck with > CCIE. > > Priscilla > > > >The answers are very close to each other and need to be read carefully, they > >can be tricky. Watch out for the " which answer doesnt not belong " > >questions those can be the most difficult. > > > >Good luck, > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer > http://www.priscilla.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33797&t=33784 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passing CID [7:33784]
How would you compare the CSS1 tests to the CCNP tests? I am thinking about going after my CSS1 after I pass the Checkpoint CCSA and CCSE tests. -dlb ""Godswill HO"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi Priscilla, > > Questions like "which answer doesnt not belong " means what??? Is Cisco > implying that the double negative means positive as we were taught years ago > in algebra class or it should be ignored and taken for one negative. > > Am currently taking my CSS1 track, I wrote Cisco Secure VPN yesterday which > happens to be the third exam in the series. I came accross a lot questions > which made no sense at all. Looking at the question, it was not a question > at all. it was not asking any particular thing, it had no meaning, no > bearing, no sense in it, they are just like saying blablablablablablablabla. > The more I read them the more I get confused and lost at what Cisco was > tring to ask. Have you come accross questions that made you think 'What must > be in the mind of the examiner when he was asking this question, which > aspect of Network or Security implementation was he thinking of? What I > normally do is to completely ignore the questions and eliminate the odd > options in the answer, at the end of the day in many questions like these, I > come out with NOT THE BEST ANSWER as they use to tell one, but rather a > choice that made a different SENSE and MEANING than the other three or four. > > I sometimes ask whether the current Cisco questions were not originally > written in English but were translated from another language and as such the > transators did not do a good job or is it a deliberate action on the part of > Cisco? If it were the former it is long time they take a closer look at it > and if it is the later, what must have informed their actions? > > Regards. > Godswill Oletu CCNP, CCDP. > > ----- Original Message - > From: Priscilla Oppenheimer > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 4:57 PM > Subject: Re: Passing CID [7:33784] > > > > At 07:19 PM 1/30/02, brian hall wrote: > > >Passing this test #640-025 was the hardest yet. It took a couple of > times. > > >Now its on to CCIE and then the lab were the truth comes out. > > >Some tell me that passing this brings you close to being prepared to take > > >the CCIE written. I'll find out soon enough. > > > > > >To any one who cares using boson CCDP #1 & #3 helped . > > > > > >I started using the latest version of the CID exam prep from cisco press > but > > > > Exam prep guides are written with the goal of summarizing what you need to > > know. They are not the course materials, but go beyond in some ways, and > > may also skip some basic stuff. They can be great for review, but don't > > work for everyone as the primary source. > > > > >found the earlier version of the book written by birkner a better source. > > > > This wasn't an earlier version of the same book. It's a different book. > > This was the course materials ported to book format. The author should be > > Cisco (course developers) although in this case Birkner didn't exactly > > follow the script and added his own material and left some out. > > > > In general, Cisco Press develops at least two types of books: > > > > Certification guides: not written by Cisco, but still often very helpful > > Course book: training written by Cisco, ported to book format by an editor > > paid by Cisco Press, usually an excellent resource as the tests are taken > > from the course. > > > > A question came up about the different types of Cisco Press books in a > > different thread, so I responded here. (My other response never made it?) > > > > Anyway, congratulations on passing CID! It's a hard test. Good luck with > > CCIE. > > > > Priscilla > > > > > > >The answers are very close to each other and need to be read carefully, > they > > >can be tricky. Watch out for the " which answer doesnt not belong " > > >questions those can be the most difficult. > > > > > >Good luck, > > > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer > > http://www.priscilla.com > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33844&t=33784 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passing CID [7:33784]
The "Which answer doesn't not belong?" is that a very trick question that should actually be read "Which answer does belong?", or did you do a typo? If that's the case, you could spend long time understanding questions like "What do you not think would be false to give as an incorrect answer?" Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: brian hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 6:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Passing CID [7:33784] Passing this test #640-025 was the hardest yet. It took a couple of times. Now its on to CCIE and then the lab were the truth comes out. Some tell me that passing this brings you close to being prepared to take the CCIE written. I'll find out soon enough. To any one who cares using boson CCDP #1 & #3 helped . I started using the latest version of the CID exam prep from cisco press but found the earlier version of the book written by birkner a better source. The answers are very close to each other and need to be read carefully, they can be tricky. Watch out for the " which answer doesnt not belong " questions those can be the most difficult. Good luck, Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33848&t=33784 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passing CID [7:33784]
Hi David, The CSS1 track looks easier to me than the CCNP track. Among others, the major reason reason is that, they are a lot of overlapping areas in all four exams, If you write MCNS, start preparing for the PIX exam, you will discover that, you are familar with almost 75% of the material, same for the VPN exam, all you just have to do is to note the specific applications within the current context. Very unlike the CCNP each four exams deals with a complete different world of knowledge. For you to see clearly what am saying: I wrote all four of my CCNP exams within six(6) weeks, but I have written three of the CSS1 exams in just one(1) week ! (MCNS=22/1/1, PIX=25/1/1 and VPN=29/1/1), left with IDS. However you need to know your stuff, but it is not really a terrior of an exam. Please tell me more about the Checkpoint exam, my next target is either checkpoint or CISSP, though am more likely to give CISSP a look first, however Checkpoint will follow vey soon. Regards. Oletu. - Original Message - From: David L. Blair To: Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 5:26 AM Subject: Re: Passing CID [7:33784] > How would you compare the CSS1 tests to the CCNP tests? I am thinking about > going after my CSS1 after I pass the Checkpoint CCSA and CCSE tests. > > -dlb > > ""Godswill HO"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Hi Priscilla, > > > > Questions like "which answer doesnt not belong " means what??? Is Cisco > > implying that the double negative means positive as we were taught years > ago > > in algebra class or it should be ignored and taken for one negative. > > > > Am currently taking my CSS1 track, I wrote Cisco Secure VPN yesterday > which > > happens to be the third exam in the series. I came accross a lot questions > > which made no sense at all. Looking at the question, it was not a question > > at all. it was not asking any particular thing, it had no meaning, no > > bearing, no sense in it, they are just like saying > blablablablablablablabla. > > The more I read them the more I get confused and lost at what Cisco was > > tring to ask. Have you come accross questions that made you think 'What > must > > be in the mind of the examiner when he was asking this question, which > > aspect of Network or Security implementation was he thinking of? What I > > normally do is to completely ignore the questions and eliminate the odd > > options in the answer, at the end of the day in many questions like these, > I > > come out with NOT THE BEST ANSWER as they use to tell one, but rather a > > choice that made a different SENSE and MEANING than the other three or > four. > > > > I sometimes ask whether the current Cisco questions were not originally > > written in English but were translated from another language and as such > the > > transators did not do a good job or is it a deliberate action on the part > of > > Cisco? If it were the former it is long time they take a closer look at it > > and if it is the later, what must have informed their actions? > > > > Regards. > > Godswill Oletu CCNP, CCDP. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Priscilla Oppenheimer > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 4:57 PM > > Subject: Re: Passing CID [7:33784] > > > > > > > At 07:19 PM 1/30/02, brian hall wrote: > > > >Passing this test #640-025 was the hardest yet. It took a couple of > > times. > > > >Now its on to CCIE and then the lab were the truth comes out. > > > >Some tell me that passing this brings you close to being prepared to > take > > > >the CCIE written. I'll find out soon enough. > > > > > > > >To any one who cares using boson CCDP #1 & #3 helped . > > > > > > > >I started using the latest version of the CID exam prep from cisco > press > > but > > > > > > Exam prep guides are written with the goal of summarizing what you need > to > > > know. They are not the course materials, but go beyond in some ways, and > > > may also skip some basic stuff. They can be great for review, but don't > > > work for everyone as the primary source. > > > > > > >found the earlier version of the book written by birkner a better > source. > > > > > > This wasn't an earlier version of the same book. It's a different book. > > > This was the course materials ported to book format. The author should > be > > > Cisco (course developers) although in this case Birkner didn't exactly > > > follow the script
RE: Passing CID [7:33784]
Its just a typo. I meant, "which answer does not belong" Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33887&t=33784 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passing CID [7:33784]
Okay, thanks - that makes more sense :-) And congratulations btw - good going! Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: brian hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 11:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passing CID [7:33784] Its just a typo. I meant, "which answer does not belong" Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33894&t=33784 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passing CID [7:33784]
That might be the likely case. But what stops them from correcting these mistakes each time they review their questions? Why do we have such frequent typo errors in other exams like microsoft, checkpoint, etc?...just thinking aloud. Regards. Oletu - Original Message - From: brian hall To: Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:45 AM Subject: RE: Passing CID [7:33784] > Its just a typo. I meant, "which answer does not belong" _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33903&t=33784 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
