Re: Average afterwork time Tech learning commitmen [7:34634]

2002-02-10 Thread xoai

hm...
look like life is hard??
Hartnell, George  wrote in message
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 Here's a little tidbit from the Washington Post about battle:

 [Cy (Zulu, 1964)] Endfield also finds a quality missing from all too many
 battle sequences in millions of movies: that is, the utter physical labor
of
 battle. It's very hard work to fight, which is why the young are so much
 better at it. His troopers emerge like footballers after an overtime --
 exhausted men, drained and emotionally flattened, smeared with dirt and
 blood, beyond the need to do anything but sleep for days.

 Sounds a lot like those 'boot camps' I hear about, and some sustained
 training efforts mentioned here in the group.  Not to mention the day
after
 those CCIE lab tests.

 Best, G.
 VP OGC




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Re: Average afterwork time Tech learning commitmen [7:34634]

2002-02-08 Thread Gaz

Right!

I have to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before
I go to bed, eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down
mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when I get
home, our Dad'll kill us, and dance about on our graves singing
Hallelujah.

You tell that to the young people of today - And they won't believe you!


Gaz


James Robinson  wrote in message
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 i live in northern MD, work in DC.  my train pulls out at 5:05 AM, i get
to
 union station around 7:00 AM.  at night my train leaves at 6:00, i get
home
 around 8:00.  with the extra sleep time i need in order to function, i am
 still able to squeeze off at least 90 min of uninterrupted reading time on
 the train and then go home, deal with wife/kids/bills/life stuff and still
 have a good hour or so to research stuff in my lab before bedtime happens
 and it all starts again.at this rate, i am trying to set a schedule of
 finishing CCNP by early summer.


 jim


 Brad Ellis  wrote in message
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  It's all about focus, drive, and motiviation. It's very difficult to
work
  7-8hrs/day, then come home and study for 5 more.  Then on the weekends,
  study an additional 8-12hrs/day.  (I did that schedule for 1 month prior
 to
  my lab exam, and a similar schedule 2-3 months out from my exam)  It was
  very taxing, and hard to spend time with my significant other (who I
  acutally bought a dog to keep her occupied).  How some people can spend
 the
  amount of time that they do with a family, and other disctractions is
  amazing.
 
  Try and set expectations in your household.  Let people know that this
is
  your quiet time.  Start off spending 2 hours a night, and see if that
 does
  the trick for you. If it's too much, cut back to an hour, if you can
 handle
  more, do 3 hours.  Remeber, an hour a night, every night, really adds
up.
 
  After all is said and done, it's focus, motivation, concentration,
drive,
  and buying someone a dog!  :)
 
  thanks,
  -Brad Ellis
  CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
  Network Learning Inc
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  used Cisco gear:  www.optsys.net
  CCIE Labs, racks, and classes:
http://www.ccbootcamp.com/quicklinks.html
 
  rtc9  wrote in message
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   I have a three hour commute, a full+ part time job, and I'm wondering,
  what
   is the average hours people put in to thier job after hours? Some I
 think
  do
   nothing. Others eat drink sleep and live the stuff. I know work is
   important.but




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RE: Average afterwork time Tech learning commitmen [7:34634]

2002-02-08 Thread Hartnell, George

Here's a little tidbit from the Washington Post about battle:

[Cy (Zulu, 1964)] Endfield also finds a quality missing from all too many
battle sequences in millions of movies: that is, the utter physical labor of
battle. It's very hard work to fight, which is why the young are so much
better at it. His troopers emerge like footballers after an overtime --
exhausted men, drained and emotionally flattened, smeared with dirt and
blood, beyond the need to do anything but sleep for days.

Sounds a lot like those 'boot camps' I hear about, and some sustained
training efforts mentioned here in the group.  Not to mention the day after
those CCIE lab tests.

Best, G.
VP OGC




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RE: Average afterwork time Tech learning commitmen [7:34634]

2002-02-07 Thread Mears, Rob

Here is one for you.

I get up @ 0430, thats in the AM and study until i go to work, study @ lunch
and then study @ night.  I need a life

Thanks
Rob Mears III,  CCNP, MCSE, CNE, NNCDS, NNCSS, NNCPS, MCP+I, A+
Technical Mercenary

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 For me, my optimal study time was during my lunch break at
 work.  I'd scarf a sandwich and spend 45 minutes completely
 distraction free sitting in my car in the parking lot.  That
 45 minutes 5 days a week is more effective than 2 hours a
 day trying to work on the lab with the kid, wife,
 honey-do's, tv and dog all vying for my attention.  Note, do
 not become so engrossed in what you are reading that you sit
 in the car with the windows rolled up and cook yourself like
 a thanksgiving turkey.

I think you're potentially describing an infinite loop, which, 
admittedly, might be a good troubleshooting scenario. If the 
sandwich you are scarfing is leftover Thanksgiving turkey, but the 
weather conditions exist to roast you like a turkey...

Maybe it isn't a loop. It might be an infinite recursion or just the 
formation of a black hole.




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Re: Average afterwork time Tech learning commitmen [7:34634]

2002-02-07 Thread James Robinson

i live in northern MD, work in DC.  my train pulls out at 5:05 AM, i get to
union station around 7:00 AM.  at night my train leaves at 6:00, i get home
around 8:00.  with the extra sleep time i need in order to function, i am
still able to squeeze off at least 90 min of uninterrupted reading time on
the train and then go home, deal with wife/kids/bills/life stuff and still
have a good hour or so to research stuff in my lab before bedtime happens
and it all starts again.at this rate, i am trying to set a schedule of
finishing CCNP by early summer.


jim


Brad Ellis  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 It's all about focus, drive, and motiviation. It's very difficult to work
 7-8hrs/day, then come home and study for 5 more.  Then on the weekends,
 study an additional 8-12hrs/day.  (I did that schedule for 1 month prior
to
 my lab exam, and a similar schedule 2-3 months out from my exam)  It was
 very taxing, and hard to spend time with my significant other (who I
 acutally bought a dog to keep her occupied).  How some people can spend
the
 amount of time that they do with a family, and other disctractions is
 amazing.

 Try and set expectations in your household.  Let people know that this is
 your quiet time.  Start off spending 2 hours a night, and see if that
does
 the trick for you. If it's too much, cut back to an hour, if you can
handle
 more, do 3 hours.  Remeber, an hour a night, every night, really adds up.

 After all is said and done, it's focus, motivation, concentration, drive,
 and buying someone a dog!  :)

 thanks,
 -Brad Ellis
 CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
 Network Learning Inc
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 used Cisco gear:  www.optsys.net
 CCIE Labs, racks, and classes:  http://www.ccbootcamp.com/quicklinks.html

 rtc9  wrote in message
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  I have a three hour commute, a full+ part time job, and I'm wondering,
 what
  is the average hours people put in to thier job after hours? Some I
think
 do
  nothing. Others eat drink sleep and live the stuff. I know work is
  important.but




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Re: Average afterwork time Tech learning commitmen [7:34634]

2002-02-06 Thread Brad Ellis

It's all about focus, drive, and motiviation. It's very difficult to work
7-8hrs/day, then come home and study for 5 more.  Then on the weekends,
study an additional 8-12hrs/day.  (I did that schedule for 1 month prior to
my lab exam, and a similar schedule 2-3 months out from my exam)  It was
very taxing, and hard to spend time with my significant other (who I
acutally bought a dog to keep her occupied).  How some people can spend the
amount of time that they do with a family, and other disctractions is
amazing.

Try and set expectations in your household.  Let people know that this is
your quiet time.  Start off spending 2 hours a night, and see if that does
the trick for you. If it's too much, cut back to an hour, if you can handle
more, do 3 hours.  Remeber, an hour a night, every night, really adds up.

After all is said and done, it's focus, motivation, concentration, drive,
and buying someone a dog!  :)

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
Network Learning Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
used Cisco gear:  www.optsys.net
CCIE Labs, racks, and classes:  http://www.ccbootcamp.com/quicklinks.html

rtc9  wrote in message
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 I have a three hour commute, a full+ part time job, and I'm wondering,
what
 is the average hours people put in to thier job after hours? Some I think
do
 nothing. Others eat drink sleep and live the stuff. I know work is
 important.but




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RE: Average afterwork time Tech learning commitmen [7:34634]

2002-02-06 Thread Hire, Ejay

For me, my optimal study time was during my lunch break at work.  I'd scarf
a sandwich and spend 45 minutes completely distraction free sitting in my
car in the parking lot.  That 45 minutes 5 days a week is more effective
than 2 hours a day trying to work on the lab with the kid, wife, honey-do's,
tv and dog all vying for my attention.  Note, do not become so engrossed in
what you are reading that you sit in the car with the windows rolled up and
cook yourself like a thanksgiving turkey.

Ejay Hire CCNA, CCNP, CCIE Candidate
434-591-4564
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Independent Cisco and Networking Consultant (Available, and cheap too!)

... Stuffing anyone?

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It's all about focus, drive, and motiviation. It's very difficult to work
7-8hrs/day, then come home and study for 5 more.  Then on the weekends,
study an additional 8-12hrs/day.  (I did that schedule for 1 month prior to
my lab exam, and a similar schedule 2-3 months out from my exam)  It was
very taxing, and hard to spend time with my significant other (who I
acutally bought a dog to keep her occupied).  How some people can spend the
amount of time that they do with a family, and other disctractions is
amazing.

Try and set expectations in your household.  Let people know that this is
your quiet time.  Start off spending 2 hours a night, and see if that does
the trick for you. If it's too much, cut back to an hour, if you can handle
more, do 3 hours.  Remeber, an hour a night, every night, really adds up.

After all is said and done, it's focus, motivation, concentration, drive,
and buying someone a dog!  :)

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
Network Learning Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
used Cisco gear:  www.optsys.net
CCIE Labs, racks, and classes:  http://www.ccbootcamp.com/quicklinks.html

rtc9  wrote in message
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 I have a three hour commute, a full+ part time job, and I'm wondering,
what
 is the average hours people put in to thier job after hours? Some I think
do
 nothing. Others eat drink sleep and live the stuff. I know work is
 important.but




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RE: Average afterwork time Tech learning commitmen [7:34634]

2002-02-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 For me, my optimal study time was during my lunch break at
 work.  I'd scarf a sandwich and spend 45 minutes completely
 distraction free sitting in my car in the parking lot.  That
 45 minutes 5 days a week is more effective than 2 hours a
 day trying to work on the lab with the kid, wife,
 honey-do's, tv and dog all vying for my attention.  Note, do
 not become so engrossed in what you are reading that you sit
 in the car with the windows rolled up and cook yourself like
 a thanksgiving turkey.

I think you're potentially describing an infinite loop, which, 
admittedly, might be a good troubleshooting scenario. If the 
sandwich you are scarfing is leftover Thanksgiving turkey, but the 
weather conditions exist to roast you like a turkey...

Maybe it isn't a loop. It might be an infinite recursion or just the 
formation of a black hole.




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