Re: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]
Great job. Richard Newman, CCIE#8878, CCNP, CCDP George Zhang wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... All, The title says it all. I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab test yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the Congratulations on Passing the CCIE Lab! this morning. I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday. I was told that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show up. My test started about 8:15 AM in the morning. We broke for lunch at about 12:20PM. By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some pressure on time. But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew that I could go through the rest quickly. After the 15 min lunch break, I worked through rest of the test very quickly. By about 3:00 PM, I finished every thing except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it. I decided to skip that item. Then, I started reviewing and checking my config. Along the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues. Just about the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in and told me that it' time. I looked at the watch. It was 4:30 PM. My proctor was Steve. Steve is a great proctor. He answered quite a few of my questions and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the requirements of the test. I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who helped me to achieve my goal. First, I would like to thank my wife for her support and understanding. Without her support, there is no way I could achieve my goal. Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of NetMasterClass. As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most important part of my final preparation. Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who scheduled me to access the ASET racks. Thats my primary resource for hands-on practices for the past couple of months. Thanks to Eric Fairfield for lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin. Also thanks to those that I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another. Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list together. As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications a little over two and half years ago. I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first year. Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test. I wanted to take the lab a year ago. However, due to work and personal reasons, I did not get time to do it until now. Last year, I was too busy to do much study. At work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for the whole year. At home, my second child was born in February, my wife finished school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in September. In October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to take the lab test early this year. Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go to the ECP1 class. By the time my manager approved my training request, I found that Mentor Technologies went belly up. However, I learned that Bruce and Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC (www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes. I registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January. By the end of last year, the project I worked on finished. So since the beginning of this year I got a lot of time to study. For the past couple of months, I have studied 8-10 hours every day. As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I II, Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie, Satterlee, etc.) recommended by people on this list. Among this long list of books, the only one I dont like is Solies book because there are too many errors in the book. There are a few topics I was more confused after reading the book. I dont have a home lab. So my primary resource for hands-on practice is remote labs such as Mentor Technologies vlabs (not available any more), Cisco ASET lab. Because I dont have a home lab, my preparation included more reading than hands-on practice. That actually worked out very well for me. Above all, the most important part of my preparation is the NMC1 class taught by Bruce, Val and Fred. IF I HAD NOT TAKEN THE NMC1 CLASS, IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TAKEN ME ONE OR TWO MORE ATTEMPTS BEFORE I COULD GET MY NUMBER. There are a lot of things that just cannot be learned from reading books or practicing. So the NMC1 class helped me to fill in that gap very well. It also helped me to access my strength and weakness. So I know what to study on the last few weeks. I strongly recommend taking the NMC1 class a few weeks before your lab date. Thanks again. George Zhang CCIE#8903, CCNA, CCNP Sr. Network Architect Compuware Corpration 1 Meadowlands Plaza, Suite 1050 East Rutherford, NJ 07073 732-494-0288 _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
Re: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]
Rich, I don't think you're a CCNP any more. I think the CCIE supercedes that. Am I correct? -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Richard Newman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Great job. Richard Newman, CCIE#8878, CCNP, CCDP George Zhang wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... All, The title says it all. I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab test yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the Congratulations on Passing the CCIE Lab! this morning. I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday. I was told that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show up. My test started about 8:15 AM in the morning. We broke for lunch at about 12:20PM. By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some pressure on time. But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew that I could go through the rest quickly. After the 15 min lunch break, I worked through rest of the test very quickly. By about 3:00 PM, I finished every thing except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it. I decided to skip that item. Then, I started reviewing and checking my config. Along the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues. Just about the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in and told me that it' time. I looked at the watch. It was 4:30 PM. My proctor was Steve. Steve is a great proctor. He answered quite a few of my questions and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the requirements of the test. I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who helped me to achieve my goal. First, I would like to thank my wife for her support and understanding. Without her support, there is no way I could achieve my goal. Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of NetMasterClass. As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most important part of my final preparation. Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who scheduled me to access the ASET racks. Thats my primary resource for hands-on practices for the past couple of months. Thanks to Eric Fairfield for lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin. Also thanks to those that I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another. Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list together. As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications a little over two and half years ago. I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first year. Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test. I wanted to take the lab a year ago. However, due to work and personal reasons, I did not get time to do it until now. Last year, I was too busy to do much study. At work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for the whole year. At home, my second child was born in February, my wife finished school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in September. In October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to take the lab test early this year. Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go to the ECP1 class. By the time my manager approved my training request, I found that Mentor Technologies went belly up. However, I learned that Bruce and Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC (www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes. I registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January. By the end of last year, the project I worked on finished. So since the beginning of this year I got a lot of time to study. For the past couple of months, I have studied 8-10 hours every day. As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I II, Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie, Satterlee, etc.) recommended by people on this list. Among this long list of books, the only one I dont like is Solies book because there are too many errors in the book. There are a few topics I was more confused after reading the book. I dont have a home lab. So my primary resource for hands-on practice is remote labs such as Mentor Technologies vlabs (not available any more), Cisco ASET lab. Because I dont have a home lab, my preparation included more reading than hands-on practice. That actually worked out very well for me. Above all, the most important part of my preparation is the NMC1 class taught by Bruce, Val and Fred. IF I HAD NOT TAKEN THE NMC1 CLASS, IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TAKEN ME ONE OR TWO MORE ATTEMPTS BEFORE I COULD GET MY NUMBER. There are a lot of things that just cannot be learned from reading books or practicing. So the NMC1 class helped me to fill in that gap very well. It also helped me to access my strength and weakness. So I know what to study on the last few weeks. I strongly recommend taking the NMC1 class a few weeks before your lab date. Thanks again. George Zhang
RE: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]
George - Way to go Congratulations!! Thanks for encouraging the rest of us. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37540t=37490 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]
Congratulations George, Thank you very much for all your info - I appreciate that. Have fun, Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: George Zhang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE#8903 [7:37490] All, The title says it all. I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab test yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the Congratulations on Passing the CCIE Lab! this morning. I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday. I was told that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show up. My test started about 8:15 AM in the morning. We broke for lunch at about 12:20PM. By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some pressure on time. But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew that I could go through the rest quickly. After the 15 min lunch break, I worked through rest of the test very quickly. By about 3:00 PM, I finished every thing except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it. I decided to skip that item. Then, I started reviewing and checking my config. Along the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues. Just about the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in and told me that it' time. I looked at the watch. It was 4:30 PM. My proctor was Steve. Steve is a great proctor. He answered quite a few of my questions and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the requirements of the test. I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who helped me to achieve my goal. First, I would like to thank my wife for her support and understanding. Without her support, there is no way I could achieve my goal. Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of NetMasterClass. As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most important part of my final preparation. Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who scheduled me to access the ASET racks. Thats my primary resource for hands-on practices for the past couple of months. Thanks to Eric Fairfield for lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin. Also thanks to those that I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another. Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list together. As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications a little over two and half years ago. I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first year. Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test. I wanted to take the lab a year ago. However, due to work and personal reasons, I did not get time to do it until now. Last year, I was too busy to do much study. At work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for the whole year. At home, my second child was born in February, my wife finished school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in September. In October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to take the lab test early this year. Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go to the ECP1 class. By the time my manager approved my training request, I found that Mentor Technologies went belly up. However, I learned that Bruce and Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC (www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes. I registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January. By the end of last year, the project I worked on finished. So since the beginning of this year I got a lot of time to study. For the past couple of months, I have studied 8-10 hours every day. As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I II, Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie, Satterlee, etc.) recommended by people on this list. Among this long list of books, the only one I dont like is Solies book because there are too many errors in the book. There are a few topics I was more confused after reading the book. I dont have a home lab. So my primary resource for hands-on practice is remote labs such as Mentor Technologies vlabs (not available any more), Cisco ASET lab. Because I dont have a home lab, my preparation included more reading than hands-on practice. That actually worked out very well for me. Above all, the most important part of my preparation is the NMC1 class taught by Bruce, Val and Fred. IF I HAD NOT TAKEN THE NMC1 CLASS, IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TAKEN ME ONE OR TWO MORE ATTEMPTS BEFORE I COULD GET MY NUMBER. There are a lot of things that just cannot be learned from reading books or practicing. So the NMC1 class helped me to fill in that gap very well. It also helped me to access my strength and
RE: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]
You are correct. Since there are no prerequisites to CCIE, he is still a CCNP/CCDP. I believe they've recently amended the recertification rules, though. If you are a current CCIE, I _believe_ you don't have to continually recertify your lower-level certs. John Sean Knox 3/7/02 12:34:55 PM As you don't need to hold any Cisco certs to get your CCIE, I would assume he's still a CCNP. Anyone else know? Sean -Original Message- From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE#8903 [7:37490] Rich, I don't think you're a CCNP any more. I think the CCIE supercedes that. Am I correct? -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Richard Newman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Great job. Richard Newman, CCIE#8878, CCNP, CCDP George Zhang wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... All, The title says it all. I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab test yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the Congratulations on Passing the CCIE Lab! this morning. I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday. I was told that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show up. My test started about 8:15 AM in the morning. We broke for lunch at about 12:20PM. By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some pressure on time. But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew that I could go through the rest quickly. After the 15 min lunch break, I worked through rest of the test very quickly. By about 3:00 PM, I finished every thing except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it. I decided to skip that item. Then, I started reviewing and checking my config. Along the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues. Just about the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in and told me that it' time. I looked at the watch. It was 4:30 PM. My proctor was Steve. Steve is a great proctor. He answered quite a few of my questions and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the requirements of the test. I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who helped me to achieve my goal. First, I would like to thank my wife for her support and understanding. Without her support, there is no way I could achieve my goal. Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of NetMasterClass. As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most important part of my final preparation. Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who scheduled me to access the ASET racks. That s my primary resource for hands-on practices for the past couple of months. Thanks to Eric Fairfield for lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin. Also thanks to those that I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another. Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list together. As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications a little over two and half years ago. I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first year. Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test. I wanted to take the lab a year ago. However, due to work and personal reasons, I did not get time to do it until now. Last year, I was too busy to do much study. At work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for the whole year. At home, my second child was born in February, my wife finished school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in September. In October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to take the lab test early this year. Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go to the ECP1 class. By the time my manager approved my training request, I found that Mentor Technologies went belly up. However, I learned that Bruce and Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC (www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes. I registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January. By the end of last year, the project I worked on finished. So since the beginning of this year I got a lot of time to study. For the past couple of months, I have studied 8-10 hours every day. As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I II, Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie, Satterlee, etc.) recommended by people on this list. Among this long list of books, the only one I don t like is Solie s book because there are too many errors in the book. There are a few topics I was more confused after reading the book. I don t have a home lab. So my primary resource for hands-on practice is remote labs such as Mentor Technologies vlabs (not available any more), Cisco ASET lab. Because I don t have a home lab, my preparation included more reading than hands-on practice. That actually worked out very well fo
RE: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]
The CCIE does not supercede CCNP. They are different certification programs, managed by different departments at Cisco. A person can be both CCNP and CCIE. CCNP means that he or she has gone through the Career Certification Program, which last I knew was still managed by Cisco's training department. CCIE is a different program, managed by TAC I think, with no prereqs from the Career Certification Program. In reality, he'll probably stop referring to CCNP at some point, since CCIE already means that he's a guru. But there's no requirement he do this and maybe it doesn't even make sense. CCNP is a separate achievement that warrants respect on its own. Anyway, Congratulations, George! First try too! Great job. Priscilla At 02:34 PM 3/7/02, Sean Knox wrote: As you don't need to hold any Cisco certs to get your CCIE, I would assume he's still a CCNP. Anyone else know? Sean -Original Message- From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE#8903 [7:37490] Rich, I don't think you're a CCNP any more. I think the CCIE supercedes that. Am I correct? -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Richard Newman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Great job. Richard Newman, CCIE#8878, CCNP, CCDP George Zhang wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... All, The title says it all. I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab test yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the Congratulations on Passing the CCIE Lab! this morning. I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday. I was told that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show up. My test started about 8:15 AM in the morning. We broke for lunch at about 12:20PM. By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some pressure on time. But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew that I could go through the rest quickly. After the 15 min lunch break, I worked through rest of the test very quickly. By about 3:00 PM, I finished every thing except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it. I decided to skip that item. Then, I started reviewing and checking my config. Along the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues. Just about the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in and told me that it' time. I looked at the watch. It was 4:30 PM. My proctor was Steve. Steve is a great proctor. He answered quite a few of my questions and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the requirements of the test. I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who helped me to achieve my goal. First, I would like to thank my wife for her support and understanding. Without her support, there is no way I could achieve my goal. Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of NetMasterClass. As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most important part of my final preparation. Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who scheduled me to access the ASET racks. Thats my primary resource for hands-on practices for the past couple of months. Thanks to Eric Fairfield for lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin. Also thanks to those that I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another. Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list together. As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications a little over two and half years ago. I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first year. Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test. I wanted to take the lab a year ago. However, due to work and personal reasons, I did not get time to do it until now. Last year, I was too busy to do much study. At work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for the whole year. At home, my second child was born in February, my wife finished school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in September. In October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to take the lab test early this year. Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go to the ECP1 class. By the time my manager approved my training request, I found that Mentor Technologies went belly up. However, I learned that Bruce and Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC (www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes. I registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January. By the end of last year, the project I worked on finished. So since the beginning of this year I got a lot of time to study. For the past couple of months, I have studied 8-10 hours every day. As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I II, Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie
Re: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]
Actually, if I remember the agreements correctly - you can list the lower level certs (CCxA, CCxP) with the CCIE. It is when you are a CCxP that you should not list the corresponding CCxA. Mike - Original Message - From: Steven A. Ridder To: Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:10 AM Subject: Re: CCIE#8903 [7:37490] Rich, I don't think you're a CCNP any more. I think the CCIE supercedes that. Am I correct? -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Richard Newman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Great job. Richard Newman, CCIE#8878, CCNP, CCDP George Zhang wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... All, The title says it all. I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab test yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the Congratulations on Passing the CCIE Lab! this morning. I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday. I was told that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show up. My test started about 8:15 AM in the morning. We broke for lunch at about 12:20PM. By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some pressure on time. But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew that I could go through the rest quickly. After the 15 min lunch break, I worked through rest of the test very quickly. By about 3:00 PM, I finished every thing except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it. I decided to skip that item. Then, I started reviewing and checking my config. Along the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues. Just about the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in and told me that it' time. I looked at the watch. It was 4:30 PM. My proctor was Steve. Steve is a great proctor. He answered quite a few of my questions and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the requirements of the test. I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who helped me to achieve my goal. First, I would like to thank my wife for her support and understanding. Without her support, there is no way I could achieve my goal. Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of NetMasterClass. As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most important part of my final preparation. Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who scheduled me to access the ASET racks. Thats my primary resource for hands-on practices for the past couple of months. Thanks to Eric Fairfield for lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin. Also thanks to those that I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another. Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list together. As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications a little over two and half years ago. I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first year. Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test. I wanted to take the lab a year ago. However, due to work and personal reasons, I did not get time to do it until now. Last year, I was too busy to do much study. At work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for the whole year. At home, my second child was born in February, my wife finished school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in September. In October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to take the lab test early this year. Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go to the ECP1 class. By the time my manager approved my training request, I found that Mentor Technologies went belly up. However, I learned that Bruce and Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC (www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes. I registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January. By the end of last year, the project I worked on finished. So since the beginning of this year I got a lot of time to study. For the past couple of months, I have studied 8-10 hours every day. As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I II, Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie, Satterlee, etc.) recommended by people on this list. Among this long list of books, the only one I dont like is Solies book because there are too many errors in the book. There are a few topics I was more confused after reading the book. I dont have a home lab. So my primary resource for hands-on practice is remote labs such as Mentor Technologies vlabs (not available any more), Cisco ASET lab. Because I dont have a home lab, my preparation included more reading than hands-on practice. That actually worked out very well for me. Above all, the most important part of my preparation is the NMC1 class taught by Bruce, Val and Fred. IF I HAD NOT TAKEN THE NMC1 CLASS, I
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But it helps when applying for jobs where they want a CCNA and have no clue what a CCNP is. I had a job interview today where they asked what a CCIE was. :-) Ken Michael J. Doherty 03/07/02 04:28PM Actually, if I remember the agreements correctly - you can list the lower level certs (CCxA, CCxP) with the CCIE. It is when you are a CCxP that you should not list the corresponding CCxA. Mike [snip] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37603t=37490 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]
As you don't need to hold any Cisco certs to get your CCIE, I would assume he's still a CCNP. Anyone else know? Sean -Original Message- From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE#8903 [7:37490] Rich, I don't think you're a CCNP any more. I think the CCIE supercedes that. Am I correct? -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Richard Newman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Great job. Richard Newman, CCIE#8878, CCNP, CCDP George Zhang wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... All, The title says it all. I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab test yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the Congratulations on Passing the CCIE Lab! this morning. I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday. I was told that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show up. My test started about 8:15 AM in the morning. We broke for lunch at about 12:20PM. By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some pressure on time. But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew that I could go through the rest quickly. After the 15 min lunch break, I worked through rest of the test very quickly. By about 3:00 PM, I finished every thing except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it. I decided to skip that item. Then, I started reviewing and checking my config. Along the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues. Just about the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in and told me that it' time. I looked at the watch. It was 4:30 PM. My proctor was Steve. Steve is a great proctor. He answered quite a few of my questions and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the requirements of the test. I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who helped me to achieve my goal. First, I would like to thank my wife for her support and understanding. Without her support, there is no way I could achieve my goal. Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of NetMasterClass. As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most important part of my final preparation. Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who scheduled me to access the ASET racks. Thats my primary resource for hands-on practices for the past couple of months. Thanks to Eric Fairfield for lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin. Also thanks to those that I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another. Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list together. As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications a little over two and half years ago. I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first year. Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test. I wanted to take the lab a year ago. However, due to work and personal reasons, I did not get time to do it until now. Last year, I was too busy to do much study. At work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for the whole year. At home, my second child was born in February, my wife finished school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in September. In October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to take the lab test early this year. Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go to the ECP1 class. By the time my manager approved my training request, I found that Mentor Technologies went belly up. However, I learned that Bruce and Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC (www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes. I registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January. By the end of last year, the project I worked on finished. So since the beginning of this year I got a lot of time to study. For the past couple of months, I have studied 8-10 hours every day. As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I II, Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie, Satterlee, etc.) recommended by people on this list. Among this long list of books, the only one I dont like is Solies book because there are too many errors in the book. There are a few topics I was more confused after reading the book. I dont have a home lab. So my primary resource for hands-on practice is remote labs such as Mentor Technologies vlabs (not available any more), Cisco ASET lab. Because I dont have a home lab, my preparation included more reading than hands-on practice. That actually worked out very well for me. Above all, the most important part of my preparation is the NMC1 class taught by Bruce, Val and Fred. IF I HAD NOT TAKEN THE NMC1 CLASS, IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TAKEN ME ONE OR TWO MORE ATTEMPTS BEFORE I COULD GET MY NUMBER. There are a lot of things that just cannot be learned fr
RE: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]
Exactly, it depends on the circumstances. On a resume, I'll list everything from CCNA to CCNP. This includes MS stuff like MCSE/MCP/etc, because some HR people are so clueless they think that just because is missing from your resume (despite work experience), you don't have a certain skill set. So I list everything I have just to be safe. In a forum such as this one, none of that is necessary. - Sean -Original Message- From: Ken Diliberto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 3:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE#8903 [7:37490] But it helps when applying for jobs where they want a CCNA and have no clue what a CCNP is. I had a job interview today where they asked what a CCIE was. :-) Ken Michael J. Doherty 03/07/02 04:28PM Actually, if I remember the agreements correctly - you can list the lower level certs (CCxA, CCxP) with the CCIE. It is when you are a CCxP that you should not list the corresponding CCxA. Mike [snip] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37615t=37490 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]
Congratulations! George Zhang All, The title says it all. I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab test yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the Congratulations on Passing the CCIE Lab! this morning. I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday. I was told that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show up. My test started about 8:15 AM in the morning. We broke for lunch at about 12:20PM. By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some pressure on time. But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew that I could go through the rest quickly. After the 15 min lunch break, I worked through rest of the test very quickly. By about 3:00 PM, I finished every thing except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it. I decided to skip that item. Then, I started reviewing and checking my config. Along the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues. Just about the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in and told me that it' time. I looked at the watch. It was 4:30 PM. My proctor was Steve. Steve is a great proctor. He answered quite a few of my questions and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the requirements of the test. I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who helped me to achieve my goal. First, I would like to thank my wife for her support and understanding. Without her support, there is no way I could achieve my goal. Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of NetMasterClass. As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most important part of my final preparation. Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who scheduled me to access the ASET racks. Thats my primary resource for hands-on practices for the past couple of months. Thanks to Eric Fairfield for lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin. Also thanks to those that I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another. Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list together. As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications a little over two and half years ago. I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first year. Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test. I wanted to take the lab a year ago. However, due to work and personal reasons, I did not get time to do it until now. Last year, I was too busy to do much study. At work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for the whole year. At home, my second child was born in February, my wife finished school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in September. In October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to take the lab test early this year. Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go to the ECP1 class. By the time my manager approved my training request, I found that Mentor Technologies went belly up. However, I learned that Bruce and Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC (www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes. I registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January. By the end of last year, the project I worked on finished. So since the beginning of this year I got a lot of time to study. For the past couple of months, I have studied 8-10 hours every day. As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I II, Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie, Satterlee, etc.) recommended by people on this list. Among this long list of books, the only one I dont like is Solies book because there are too many errors in the book. There are a few topics I was more confused after reading the book. I dont have a home lab. So my primary resource for hands-on practice is remote labs such as Mentor Technologies vlabs (not available any more), Cisco ASET lab. Because I dont have a home lab, my preparation included more reading than hands-on practice. That actually worked out very well for me. Above all, the most important part of my preparation is the NMC1 class taught by Bruce, Val and Fred. IF I HAD NOT TAKEN THE NMC1 CLASS, IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TAKEN ME ONE OR TWO MORE ATTEMPTS BEFORE I COULD GET MY NUMBER. There are a lot of things that just cannot be learned from reading books or practicing. So the NMC1 class helped me to fill in that gap very well. It also helped me to access my strength and weakness. So I know what to study on the last few weeks. I strongly recommend taking the NMC1 class a few weeks before your lab date. Thanks again. George Zhang CCIE#8903, CCNA, CCNP Sr. Network Architect Compuware Corpration 1 Meadowlands Plaza, Suite 1050 East Rutherford, NJ 07073 732-494-0288 _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37495t=37490
RE: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]
Did you think you passed when you left the lab? Congratulations!! -Original Message- From: Ocsic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 6:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE#8903 [7:37490] Congratulations! George Zhang All, The title says it all. I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab test yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the Congratulations on Passing the CCIE Lab! this morning. I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday. I was told that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show up. My test started about 8:15 AM in the morning. We broke for lunch at about 12:20PM. By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some pressure on time. But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew that I could go through the rest quickly. After the 15 min lunch break, I worked through rest of the test very quickly. By about 3:00 PM, I finished every thing except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it. I decided to skip that item. Then, I started reviewing and checking my config. Along the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues. Just about the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in and told me that it' time. I looked at the watch. It was 4:30 PM. My proctor was Steve. Steve is a great proctor. He answered quite a few of my questions and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the requirements of the test. I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who helped me to achieve my goal. First, I would like to thank my wife for her support and understanding. Without her support, there is no way I could achieve my goal. Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of NetMasterClass. As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most important part of my final preparation. Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who scheduled me to access the ASET racks. Thats my primary resource for hands-on practices for the past couple of months. Thanks to Eric Fairfield for lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin. Also thanks to those that I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another. Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list together. As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications a little over two and half years ago. I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first year. Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test. I wanted to take the lab a year ago. However, due to work and personal reasons, I did not get time to do it until now. Last year, I was too busy to do much study. At work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for the whole year. At home, my second child was born in February, my wife finished school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in September. In October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to take the lab test early this year. Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go to the ECP1 class. By the time my manager approved my training request, I found that Mentor Technologies went belly up. However, I learned that Bruce and Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC (www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes. I registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January. By the end of last year, the project I worked on finished. So since the beginning of this year I got a lot of time to study. For the past couple of months, I have studied 8-10 hours every day. As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I II, Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie, Satterlee, etc.) recommended by people on this list. Among this long list of books, the only one I dont like is Solies book because there are too many errors in the book. There are a few topics I was more confused after reading the book. I dont have a home lab. So my primary resource for hands-on practice is remote labs such as Mentor Technologies vlabs (not available any more), Cisco ASET lab. Because I dont have a home lab, my preparation included more reading than hands-on practice. That actually worked out very well for me. Above all, the most important part of my preparation is the NMC1 class taught by Bruce, Val and Fred. IF I HAD NOT TAKEN THE NMC1 CLASS, IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TAKEN ME ONE OR TWO MORE ATTEMPTS BEFORE I COULD GET MY NUMBER. There are a lot of things that just cannot be learned from reading books or practicing. So the NMC1 class helped me to fill in that gap very well. It also helped me to access my strength and weakness. So I know what to study on the last few weeks. I strongly recommend taking the NMC1 class a few weeks before your lab date. Thanks again. George Zhang CCIE#8903, CCNA, CCNP Sr. Network Architect Compuware Corpration 1 Meadowlands Plaza, Suite 1050 East Rutherford, NJ 07073 732-494-0288
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George, you are an inspiration to us all. Thanks for the description of your journey and congratulations! Rik -Original Message- From: George Zhang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 6:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE#8903 [7:37490] All, The title says it all. I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab test yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the Congratulations on Passing the CCIE Lab! this morning. I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday. I was told that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show up. My test started about 8:15 AM in the morning. We broke for lunch at about 12:20PM. By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some pressure on time. But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew that I could go through the rest quickly. After the 15 min lunch break, I worked through rest of the test very quickly. By about 3:00 PM, I finished every thing except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it. I decided to skip that item. Then, I started reviewing and checking my config. Along the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues. Just about the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in and told me that it' time. I looked at the watch. It was 4:30 PM. My proctor was Steve. Steve is a great proctor. He answered quite a few of my questions and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the requirements of the test. I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who helped me to achieve my goal. First, I would like to thank my wife for her support and understanding. Without her support, there is no way I could achieve my goal. Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of NetMasterClass. As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most important part of my final preparation. Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who scheduled me to access the ASET racks. Thats my primary resource for hands-on practices for the past couple of months. Thanks to Eric Fairfield for lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin. Also thanks to those that I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another. Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list together. As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications a little over two and half years ago. I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first year. Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test. I wanted to take the lab a year ago. However, due to work and personal reasons, I did not get time to do it until now. Last year, I was too busy to do much study. At work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for the whole year. At home, my second child was born in February, my wife finished school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in September. In October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to take the lab test early this year. Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go to the ECP1 class. By the time my manager approved my training request, I found that Mentor Technologies went belly up. However, I learned that Bruce and Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC (www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes. I registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January. By the end of last year, the project I worked on finished. So since the beginning of this year I got a lot of time to study. For the past couple of months, I have studied 8-10 hours every day. As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I II, Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie, Satterlee, etc.) recommended by people on this list. Among this long list of books, the only one I dont like is Solies book because there are too many errors in the book. There are a few topics I was more confused after reading the book. I dont have a home lab. So my primary resource for hands-on practice is remote labs such as Mentor Technologies vlabs (not available any more), Cisco ASET lab. Because I dont have a home lab, my preparation included more reading than hands-on practice. That actually worked out very well for me. Above all, the most important part of my preparation is the NMC1 class taught by Bruce, Val and Fred. IF I HAD NOT TAKEN THE NMC1 CLASS, IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TAKEN ME ONE OR TWO MORE ATTEMPTS BEFORE I COULD GET MY NUMBER. There are a lot of things that just cannot be learned from reading books or practicing. So the NMC1 class helped me to fill in that gap very well. It also helped me to access my strength and weakness. So I know what to study on the last few weeks. I strongly recommend taking the NMC1 class a few weeks before your lab date. Thanks again. George Zhang CCIE#8903, CCNA, CCNP Sr. Network Architect Compuware Corpration 1 Meadowlands Plaza, Suite 1050 East Rutherford, NJ 07073 732-494-0288
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Great Job, Congrats!! Thanks for sharing...!! George Zhang wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... All, The title says it all. I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab test yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the Congratulations on Passing the CCIE Lab! this morning. I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday. I was told that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show up. My test started about 8:15 AM in the morning. We broke for lunch at about 12:20PM. By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some pressure on time. But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew that I could go through the rest quickly. After the 15 min lunch break, I worked through rest of the test very quickly. By about 3:00 PM, I finished every thing except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it. I decided to skip that item. Then, I started reviewing and checking my config. Along the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues. Just about the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in and told me that it' time. I looked at the watch. It was 4:30 PM. My proctor was Steve. Steve is a great proctor. He answered quite a few of my questions and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the requirements of the test. I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who helped me to achieve my goal. First, I would like to thank my wife for her support and understanding. Without her support, there is no way I could achieve my goal. Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of NetMasterClass. As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most important part of my final preparation. Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who scheduled me to access the ASET racks. Thats my primary resource for hands-on practices for the past couple of months. Thanks to Eric Fairfield for lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin. Also thanks to those that I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another. Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list together. As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications a little over two and half years ago. I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first year. Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test. I wanted to take the lab a year ago. However, due to work and personal reasons, I did not get time to do it until now. Last year, I was too busy to do much study. At work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for the whole year. At home, my second child was born in February, my wife finished school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in September. In October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to take the lab test early this year. Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go to the ECP1 class. By the time my manager approved my training request, I found that Mentor Technologies went belly up. However, I learned that Bruce and Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC (www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes. I registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January. By the end of last year, the project I worked on finished. So since the beginning of this year I got a lot of time to study. For the past couple of months, I have studied 8-10 hours every day. As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I II, Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie, Satterlee, etc.) recommended by people on this list. Among this long list of books, the only one I dont like is Solies book because there are too many errors in the book. There are a few topics I was more confused after reading the book. I dont have a home lab. So my primary resource for hands-on practice is remote labs such as Mentor Technologies vlabs (not available any more), Cisco ASET lab. Because I dont have a home lab, my preparation included more reading than hands-on practice. That actually worked out very well for me. Above all, the most important part of my preparation is the NMC1 class taught by Bruce, Val and Fred. IF I HAD NOT TAKEN THE NMC1 CLASS, IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TAKEN ME ONE OR TWO MORE ATTEMPTS BEFORE I COULD GET MY NUMBER. There are a lot of things that just cannot be learned from reading books or practicing. So the NMC1 class helped me to fill in that gap very well. It also helped me to access my strength and weakness. So I know what to study on the last few weeks. I strongly recommend taking the NMC1 class a few weeks before your lab date. Thanks again. George Zhang CCIE#8903, CCNA, CCNP Sr. Network Architect Compuware Corpration 1 Meadowlands Plaza, Suite 1050 East Rutherford, NJ 07073 732-494-0288 _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
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Many congrats!!! Nadeem = George Zhang wrote: All, The title says it all. I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab test yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the Congratulations on Passing the CCIE Lab! this morning. I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday. I was told that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show up. My test started about 8:15 AM in the morning. We broke for lunch at about 12:20PM. By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some pressure on time. But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew that I could go through the rest quickly. After the 15 min lunch break, I worked through rest of the test very quickly. By about 3:00 PM, I finished every thing except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it. I decided to skip that item. Then, I started reviewing and checking my config. Along the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues. Just about the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in and told me that it' time. I looked at the watch. It was 4:30 PM. My proctor was Steve. Steve is a great proctor. He answered quite a few of my questions and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the requirements of the test. I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who helped me to achieve my goal. First, I would like to thank my wife for her support and understanding. Without her support, there is no way I could achieve my goal. Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of NetMasterClass. As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most important part of my final preparation. Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who scheduled me to access the ASET racks. Thats my primary resource for hands-on practices for the past couple of months. Thanks to Eric Fairfield for lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin. Also thanks to those that I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another. Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list together. As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications a little over two and half years ago. I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first year. Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test. I wanted to take the lab a year ago. However, due to work and personal reasons, I did not get time to do it until now. Last year, I was too busy to do much study. At work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for the whole year. At home, my second child was born in February, my wife finished school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in September. In October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to take the lab test early this year. Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go to the ECP1 class. By the time my manager approved my training request, I found that Mentor Technologies went belly up. However, I learned that Bruce and Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC (www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes. I registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January. By the end of last year, the project I worked on finished. So since the beginning of this year I got a lot of time to study. For the past couple of months, I have studied 8-10 hours every day. As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I II, Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie, Satterlee, etc.) recommended by people on this list. Among this long list of books, the only one I dont like is Solies book because there are too many errors in the book. There are a few topics I was more confused after reading the book. I dont have a home lab. So my primary resource for hands-on practice is remote labs such as Mentor Technologies vlabs (not available any more), Cisco ASET lab. Because I dont have a home lab, my preparation included more reading than hands-on practice. That actually worked out very well for me. Above all, the most important part of my preparation is the NMC1 class taught by Bruce, Val and Fred. IF I HAD NOT TAKEN THE NMC1 CLASS, IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TAKEN ME ONE OR TWO MORE ATTEMPTS BEFORE I COULD GET MY NUMBER. There are a lot of things that just cannot be learned from reading books or practicing. So the NMC1 class helped me to fill in that gap very well. It also helped me to access my strength and weakness. So I know what to study on the last few weeks. I strongly recommend taking the NMC1 class a few weeks before your lab date. Thanks again. George Zhang CCIE#8903, CCNA, CCNP Sr. Network Architect Compuware Corpration 1 Meadowlands Plaza, Suite 1050 East Rutherford, NJ 07073 732-494-0288 _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. -- Ishrat Nadeem Zahid CCNP Cisco Systems,Inc. Chelmsford,
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Congratulation George Zhang ! Juli Hato CCNP, CCDP _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37516t=37490 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]