Re: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]

2002-03-07 Thread Richard Newman

Great job.

Richard Newman, CCIE#8878, CCNP, CCDP


George Zhang  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 All,

 The title says it all.  I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab test
 yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the Congratulations on
Passing
 the CCIE Lab! this morning.

 I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday.  I was
told
 that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show up.  My
 test started about 8:15 AM in the morning.  We broke for lunch at about
 12:20PM.  By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some
pressure
 on time.  But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew that I
could
 go through the rest quickly.  After the 15 min lunch break, I worked
through
 rest of the test very quickly.  By about 3:00 PM, I finished every thing
 except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it.  I decided
to
 skip that item.  Then, I started reviewing and checking my config.  Along
 the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues.  Just
about
 the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in and told
me
 that it' time.  I looked at the watch.  It was 4:30 PM.  My proctor was
 Steve.  Steve is a great proctor.  He answered quite a few of my questions
 and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the requirements of
the
 test.

 I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who helped me to
 achieve my goal.  First, I would like to thank my wife for her support and
 understanding.  Without her support, there is no way I could achieve my
 goal.  Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of
 NetMasterClass.  As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most important
 part of my final preparation.  Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who scheduled
 me to access the ASET racks.  Thats my primary resource for hands-on
 practices for the past couple of months.  Thanks to Eric Fairfield for
 lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin.  Also thanks to those
that
 I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another.  Thanks
also
 to Paul for putting this great list together.

 As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications a
little
 over two and half years ago.  I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first year.
 Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test.  I wanted to take the
 lab a year ago.  However, due to work and personal reasons, I did not get
 time to do it until now.  Last year, I was too busy to do much study.  At
 work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for the whole
 year.  At home, my second child was born in February, my wife finished
 school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in September.
In
 October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to take the
 lab test early this year.  Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go to the
 ECP1 class.  By the time my manager approved my training request, I found
 that Mentor Technologies went belly up.  However, I learned that Bruce and
 Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC
 (www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes.  I
 registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January.  By the end of last
 year, the project I worked on finished.  So since the beginning of this
year
 I got a lot of time to study.  For the past couple of months, I have
studied
 8-10 hours every day.

 As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I  II,
 Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie, Satterlee, etc.) recommended by people
 on this list.  Among this long list of books, the only one I dont like is
 Solies book because there are too many errors in the book.  There are a
few
 topics I was more confused after reading the book.  I dont have a home
lab.
   So my primary resource for hands-on practice is remote labs such as
Mentor
 Technologies vlabs (not available any more), Cisco ASET lab.  Because I
 dont have a home lab, my preparation included more reading than hands-on
 practice.  That actually worked out very well for me.  Above all, the most
 important part of my preparation is the NMC1 class taught by Bruce, Val
and
 Fred.  IF I HAD NOT TAKEN THE NMC1 CLASS, IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TAKEN ME
 ONE OR TWO MORE ATTEMPTS BEFORE I COULD GET MY NUMBER.  There are a lot of
 things that just cannot be learned from reading books or practicing.  So
the
 NMC1 class helped me to fill in that gap very well.  It also helped me to
 access my strength and weakness.  So I know what to study on the last few
 weeks.  I strongly recommend taking the NMC1 class a few weeks before your
 lab date.

 Thanks again.

 George Zhang
 CCIE#8903, CCNA, CCNP
 Sr. Network Architect
 Compuware Corpration
 1 Meadowlands Plaza, Suite 1050
 East Rutherford, NJ 07073
 732-494-0288


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Re: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]

2002-03-07 Thread Steven A. Ridder

Rich, I don't think you're a CCNP any more.  I think the CCIE supercedes
that.  Am I correct?

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Richard Newman  wrote in message
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 Great job.

 Richard Newman, CCIE#8878, CCNP, CCDP


 George Zhang  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  All,
 
  The title says it all.  I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab test
  yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the Congratulations on
 Passing
  the CCIE Lab! this morning.
 
  I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday.  I was
 told
  that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show up.
My
  test started about 8:15 AM in the morning.  We broke for lunch at about
  12:20PM.  By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some
 pressure
  on time.  But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew that I
 could
  go through the rest quickly.  After the 15 min lunch break, I worked
 through
  rest of the test very quickly.  By about 3:00 PM, I finished every thing
  except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it.  I decided
 to
  skip that item.  Then, I started reviewing and checking my config.
Along
  the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues.  Just
 about
  the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in and
told
 me
  that it' time.  I looked at the watch.  It was 4:30 PM.  My proctor was
  Steve.  Steve is a great proctor.  He answered quite a few of my
questions
  and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the requirements of
 the
  test.
 
  I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who helped me
to
  achieve my goal.  First, I would like to thank my wife for her support
and
  understanding.  Without her support, there is no way I could achieve my
  goal.  Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of
  NetMasterClass.  As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most important
  part of my final preparation.  Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who
scheduled
  me to access the ASET racks.  Thats my primary resource for hands-on
  practices for the past couple of months.  Thanks to Eric Fairfield for
  lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin.  Also thanks to those
 that
  I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another.  Thanks
 also
  to Paul for putting this great list together.
 
  As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications a
 little
  over two and half years ago.  I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first year.
  Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test.  I wanted to take
the
  lab a year ago.  However, due to work and personal reasons, I did not
get
  time to do it until now.  Last year, I was too busy to do much study.
At
  work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for the
whole
  year.  At home, my second child was born in February, my wife finished
  school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in September.
 In
  October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to take
the
  lab test early this year.  Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go to the
  ECP1 class.  By the time my manager approved my training request, I
found
  that Mentor Technologies went belly up.  However, I learned that Bruce
and
  Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC
  (www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes.  I
  registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January.  By the end of
last
  year, the project I worked on finished.  So since the beginning of this
 year
  I got a lot of time to study.  For the past couple of months, I have
 studied
  8-10 hours every day.
 
  As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I  II,
  Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie, Satterlee, etc.) recommended by
people
  on this list.  Among this long list of books, the only one I dont like
is
  Solies book because there are too many errors in the book.  There are a
 few
  topics I was more confused after reading the book.  I dont have a home
 lab.
So my primary resource for hands-on practice is remote labs such as
 Mentor
  Technologies vlabs (not available any more), Cisco ASET lab.  Because I
  dont have a home lab, my preparation included more reading than
hands-on
  practice.  That actually worked out very well for me.  Above all, the
most
  important part of my preparation is the NMC1 class taught by Bruce, Val
 and
  Fred.  IF I HAD NOT TAKEN THE NMC1 CLASS, IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TAKEN
ME
  ONE OR TWO MORE ATTEMPTS BEFORE I COULD GET MY NUMBER.  There are a lot
of
  things that just cannot be learned from reading books or practicing.  So
 the
  NMC1 class helped me to fill in that gap very well.  It also helped me
to
  access my strength and weakness.  So I know what to study on the last
few
  weeks.  I strongly recommend taking the NMC1 class a few weeks before
your
  lab date.
 
  Thanks again.
 
  George Zhang

RE: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]

2002-03-07 Thread John McCartney

George - Way to go Congratulations!! Thanks for encouraging the rest of us.


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RE: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]

2002-03-07 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Congratulations George,

Thank you very much for all your info - I appreciate that.

Have fun,

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: George Zhang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]


All,

The title says it all.  I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab test 
yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the Congratulations on Passing 
the CCIE Lab! this morning.

I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday.  I was told 
that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show up.  My 
test started about 8:15 AM in the morning.  We broke for lunch at about 
12:20PM.  By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some pressure 
on time.  But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew that I could

go through the rest quickly.  After the 15 min lunch break, I worked through

rest of the test very quickly.  By about 3:00 PM, I finished every thing 
except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it.  I decided to 
skip that item.  Then, I started reviewing and checking my config.  Along 
the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues.  Just about

the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in and told me

that it' time.  I looked at the watch.  It was 4:30 PM.  My proctor was 
Steve.  Steve is a great proctor.  He answered quite a few of my questions 
and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the requirements of the

test.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who helped me to 
achieve my goal.  First, I would like to thank my wife for her support and 
understanding.  Without her support, there is no way I could achieve my 
goal.  Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of 
NetMasterClass.  As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most important 
part of my final preparation.  Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who scheduled 
me to access the ASET racks.  Thats my primary resource for hands-on 
practices for the past couple of months.  Thanks to Eric Fairfield for 
lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin.  Also thanks to those that

I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another.  Thanks also 
to Paul for putting this great list together.

As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications a little 
over two and half years ago.  I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first year.  
Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test.  I wanted to take the 
lab a year ago.  However, due to work and personal reasons, I did not get 
time to do it until now.  Last year, I was too busy to do much study.  At 
work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for the whole 
year.  At home, my second child was born in February, my wife finished 
school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in September.  In 
October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to take the 
lab test early this year.  Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go to the 
ECP1 class.  By the time my manager approved my training request, I found 
that Mentor Technologies went belly up.  However, I learned that Bruce and 
Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC 
(www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes.  I 
registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January.  By the end of last 
year, the project I worked on finished.  So since the beginning of this year

I got a lot of time to study.  For the past couple of months, I have studied

8-10 hours every day.

As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I  II, 
Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie, Satterlee, etc.) recommended by people 
on this list.  Among this long list of books, the only one I dont like is 
Solies book because there are too many errors in the book.  There are a few

topics I was more confused after reading the book.  I dont have a home lab.

  So my primary resource for hands-on practice is remote labs such as Mentor

Technologies vlabs (not available any more), Cisco ASET lab.  Because I 
dont have a home lab, my preparation included more reading than hands-on 
practice.  That actually worked out very well for me.  Above all, the most 
important part of my preparation is the NMC1 class taught by Bruce, Val and 
Fred.  IF I HAD NOT TAKEN THE NMC1 CLASS, IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TAKEN ME 
ONE OR TWO MORE ATTEMPTS BEFORE I COULD GET MY NUMBER.  There are a lot of 
things that just cannot be learned from reading books or practicing.  So the

NMC1 class helped me to fill in that gap very well.  It also helped me to 
access my strength and 

RE: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]

2002-03-07 Thread John Neiberger

You are correct.  Since there are no prerequisites to CCIE, he is still
a CCNP/CCDP.  I believe they've recently amended the recertification
rules, though.  If you are a current CCIE, I _believe_ you don't have to
continually recertify your lower-level certs.

John

 Sean Knox  3/7/02 12:34:55 PM 
As you don't need to hold any Cisco certs to get your CCIE, I would
assume
he's still a CCNP. Anyone else know?

Sean

-Original Message-
From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]


Rich, I don't think you're a CCNP any more.  I think the CCIE
supercedes
that.  Am I correct?

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RFC 1149 Compliant.


Richard Newman  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Great job.

 Richard Newman, CCIE#8878, CCNP, CCDP


 George Zhang  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  All,
 
  The title says it all.  I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab
test
  yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the Congratulations
on
 Passing
  the CCIE Lab! this morning.
 
  I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday.  I
was
 told
  that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show
up.
My
  test started about 8:15 AM in the morning.  We broke for lunch at
about
  12:20PM.  By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some
 pressure
  on time.  But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew
that I
 could
  go through the rest quickly.  After the 15 min lunch break, I
worked
 through
  rest of the test very quickly.  By about 3:00 PM, I finished every
thing
  except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it.  I
decided
 to
  skip that item.  Then, I started reviewing and checking my config.
Along
  the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues. 
Just
 about
  the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in
and
told
 me
  that it' time.  I looked at the watch.  It was 4:30 PM.  My proctor
was
  Steve.  Steve is a great proctor.  He answered quite a few of my
questions
  and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the
requirements of
 the
  test.
 
  I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who
helped me
to
  achieve my goal.  First, I would like to thank my wife for her
support
and
  understanding.  Without her support, there is no way I could
achieve my
  goal.  Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of
  NetMasterClass.  As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most
important
  part of my final preparation.  Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who
scheduled
  me to access the ASET racks.  That s my primary resource for
hands-on
  practices for the past couple of months.  Thanks to Eric Fairfield
for
  lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin.  Also thanks to
those
 that
  I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another. 
Thanks
 also
  to Paul for putting this great list together.
 
  As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications
a
 little
  over two and half years ago.  I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first
year.
  Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test.  I wanted to
take
the
  lab a year ago.  However, due to work and personal reasons, I did
not
get
  time to do it until now.  Last year, I was too busy to do much
study.
At
  work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for
the
whole
  year.  At home, my second child was born in February, my wife
finished
  school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in
September.
 In
  October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to
take
the
  lab test early this year.  Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go
to the
  ECP1 class.  By the time my manager approved my training request,
I
found
  that Mentor Technologies went belly up.  However, I learned that
Bruce
and
  Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC
  (www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes. 
I
  registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January.  By the end
of
last
  year, the project I worked on finished.  So since the beginning of
this
 year
  I got a lot of time to study.  For the past couple of months, I
have
 studied
  8-10 hours every day.
 
  As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I 
II,
  Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie, Satterlee, etc.) recommended
by
people
  on this list.  Among this long list of books, the only one I don
t like
is
  Solie s book because there are too many errors in the book. 
There are a
 few
  topics I was more confused after reading the book.  I don t have
a home
 lab.
So my primary resource for hands-on practice is remote labs such
as
 Mentor
  Technologies vlabs (not available any more), Cisco ASET lab. 
Because I
  don t have a home lab, my preparation included more reading than
hands-on
  practice.  That actually worked out very well fo

RE: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]

2002-03-07 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

The CCIE does not supercede CCNP. They are different certification 
programs, managed by different departments at Cisco. A person can be both 
CCNP and CCIE. CCNP means that he or she has gone through the Career 
Certification Program, which last I knew was still managed by Cisco's 
training department. CCIE is a different program, managed by TAC I think, 
with no prereqs from the Career Certification Program.

In reality, he'll probably stop referring to CCNP at some point, since CCIE 
already means that he's a guru. But there's no requirement he do this and 
maybe it doesn't even make sense. CCNP is a separate achievement that 
warrants respect on its own.

Anyway, Congratulations, George! First try too! Great job.

Priscilla

At 02:34 PM 3/7/02, Sean Knox wrote:
As you don't need to hold any Cisco certs to get your CCIE, I would assume
he's still a CCNP. Anyone else know?

Sean

-Original Message-
From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]


Rich, I don't think you're a CCNP any more.  I think the CCIE supercedes
that.  Am I correct?

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Richard Newman  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Great job.
 
  Richard Newman, CCIE#8878, CCNP, CCDP
 
 
  George Zhang  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   All,
  
   The title says it all.  I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab test
   yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the Congratulations on
  Passing
   the CCIE Lab! this morning.
  
   I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday.  I was
  told
   that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show up.
My
   test started about 8:15 AM in the morning.  We broke for lunch at about
   12:20PM.  By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some
  pressure
   on time.  But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew that I
  could
   go through the rest quickly.  After the 15 min lunch break, I worked
  through
   rest of the test very quickly.  By about 3:00 PM, I finished every
thing
   except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it.  I
decided
  to
   skip that item.  Then, I started reviewing and checking my config.
Along
   the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues.  Just
  about
   the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in and
told
  me
   that it' time.  I looked at the watch.  It was 4:30 PM.  My proctor was
   Steve.  Steve is a great proctor.  He answered quite a few of my
questions
   and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the requirements
of
  the
   test.
  
   I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who helped me
to
   achieve my goal.  First, I would like to thank my wife for her support
and
   understanding.  Without her support, there is no way I could achieve my
   goal.  Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of
   NetMasterClass.  As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most
important
   part of my final preparation.  Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who
scheduled
   me to access the ASET racks.  Thats my primary resource for hands-on
   practices for the past couple of months.  Thanks to Eric Fairfield for
   lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin.  Also thanks to those
  that
   I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another.  Thanks
  also
   to Paul for putting this great list together.
  
   As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications a
  little
   over two and half years ago.  I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first year.
   Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test.  I wanted to take
the
   lab a year ago.  However, due to work and personal reasons, I did not
get
   time to do it until now.  Last year, I was too busy to do much study.
At
   work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for the
whole
   year.  At home, my second child was born in February, my wife finished
   school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in September.
  In
   October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to take
the
   lab test early this year.  Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go to
the
   ECP1 class.  By the time my manager approved my training request, I
found
   that Mentor Technologies went belly up.  However, I learned that Bruce
and
   Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC
   (www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes.  I
   registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January.  By the end of
last
   year, the project I worked on finished.  So since the beginning of this
  year
   I got a lot of time to study.  For the past couple of months, I have
  studied
   8-10 hours every day.
  
   As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I  II,
   Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie

Re: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]

2002-03-07 Thread Michael J. Doherty

Actually, if I remember the agreements correctly - you can list the lower
level certs (CCxA, CCxP) with the CCIE.  It is when you are a CCxP that you
should not list the corresponding CCxA.

Mike

- Original Message -
From: Steven A. Ridder 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]


 Rich, I don't think you're a CCNP any more.  I think the CCIE supercedes
 that.  Am I correct?

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 RFC 1149 Compliant.


 Richard Newman  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Great job.
 
  Richard Newman, CCIE#8878, CCNP, CCDP
 
 
  George Zhang  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   All,
  
   The title says it all.  I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab test
   yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the Congratulations on
  Passing
   the CCIE Lab! this morning.
  
   I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday.  I was
  told
   that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show up.
 My
   test started about 8:15 AM in the morning.  We broke for lunch at
about
   12:20PM.  By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some
  pressure
   on time.  But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew that I
  could
   go through the rest quickly.  After the 15 min lunch break, I worked
  through
   rest of the test very quickly.  By about 3:00 PM, I finished every
thing
   except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it.  I
decided
  to
   skip that item.  Then, I started reviewing and checking my config.
 Along
   the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues.  Just
  about
   the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in and
 told
  me
   that it' time.  I looked at the watch.  It was 4:30 PM.  My proctor
was
   Steve.  Steve is a great proctor.  He answered quite a few of my
 questions
   and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the requirements
of
  the
   test.
  
   I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who helped
me
 to
   achieve my goal.  First, I would like to thank my wife for her support
 and
   understanding.  Without her support, there is no way I could achieve
my
   goal.  Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of
   NetMasterClass.  As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most
important
   part of my final preparation.  Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who
 scheduled
   me to access the ASET racks.  Thats my primary resource for hands-on
   practices for the past couple of months.  Thanks to Eric Fairfield for
   lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin.  Also thanks to
those
  that
   I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another.  Thanks
  also
   to Paul for putting this great list together.
  
   As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications a
  little
   over two and half years ago.  I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first
year.
   Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test.  I wanted to take
 the
   lab a year ago.  However, due to work and personal reasons, I did not
 get
   time to do it until now.  Last year, I was too busy to do much study.
 At
   work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for the
 whole
   year.  At home, my second child was born in February, my wife finished
   school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in
September.
  In
   October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to take
 the
   lab test early this year.  Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go to
the
   ECP1 class.  By the time my manager approved my training request, I
 found
   that Mentor Technologies went belly up.  However, I learned that Bruce
 and
   Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC
   (www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes.  I
   registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January.  By the end of
 last
   year, the project I worked on finished.  So since the beginning of
this
  year
   I got a lot of time to study.  For the past couple of months, I have
  studied
   8-10 hours every day.
  
   As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I  II,
   Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie, Satterlee, etc.) recommended by
 people
   on this list.  Among this long list of books, the only one I dont
like
 is
   Solies book because there are too many errors in the book.  There are
a
  few
   topics I was more confused after reading the book.  I dont have a
home
  lab.
 So my primary resource for hands-on practice is remote labs such as
  Mentor
   Technologies vlabs (not available any more), Cisco ASET lab.  Because
I
   dont have a home lab, my preparation included more reading than
 hands-on
   practice.  That actually worked out very well for me.  Above all, the
 most
   important part of my preparation is the NMC1 class taught by Bruce,
Val
  and
   Fred.  IF I HAD NOT TAKEN THE NMC1 CLASS, I

Re: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]

2002-03-07 Thread Ken Diliberto

But it helps when applying for jobs where they want a CCNA and have no clue
what a CCNP is.

I had a job interview today where they asked what a CCIE was.  :-)

Ken

 Michael J. Doherty  03/07/02 04:28PM 
Actually, if I remember the agreements correctly - you can list the lower
level certs (CCxA, CCxP) with the CCIE.  It is when you are a CCxP that you
should not list the corresponding CCxA.

Mike
[snip]




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RE: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]

2002-03-07 Thread Sean Knox

As you don't need to hold any Cisco certs to get your CCIE, I would assume
he's still a CCNP. Anyone else know?

Sean

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From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:11 AM
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Rich, I don't think you're a CCNP any more.  I think the CCIE supercedes
that.  Am I correct?

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Richard Newman  wrote in message
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 Great job.

 Richard Newman, CCIE#8878, CCNP, CCDP


 George Zhang  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  All,
 
  The title says it all.  I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab test
  yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the Congratulations on
 Passing
  the CCIE Lab! this morning.
 
  I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday.  I was
 told
  that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show up.
My
  test started about 8:15 AM in the morning.  We broke for lunch at about
  12:20PM.  By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some
 pressure
  on time.  But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew that I
 could
  go through the rest quickly.  After the 15 min lunch break, I worked
 through
  rest of the test very quickly.  By about 3:00 PM, I finished every thing
  except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it.  I decided
 to
  skip that item.  Then, I started reviewing and checking my config.
Along
  the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues.  Just
 about
  the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in and
told
 me
  that it' time.  I looked at the watch.  It was 4:30 PM.  My proctor was
  Steve.  Steve is a great proctor.  He answered quite a few of my
questions
  and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the requirements of
 the
  test.
 
  I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who helped me
to
  achieve my goal.  First, I would like to thank my wife for her support
and
  understanding.  Without her support, there is no way I could achieve my
  goal.  Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of
  NetMasterClass.  As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most important
  part of my final preparation.  Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who
scheduled
  me to access the ASET racks.  Thats my primary resource for hands-on
  practices for the past couple of months.  Thanks to Eric Fairfield for
  lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin.  Also thanks to those
 that
  I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another.  Thanks
 also
  to Paul for putting this great list together.
 
  As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications a
 little
  over two and half years ago.  I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first year.
  Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test.  I wanted to take
the
  lab a year ago.  However, due to work and personal reasons, I did not
get
  time to do it until now.  Last year, I was too busy to do much study.
At
  work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for the
whole
  year.  At home, my second child was born in February, my wife finished
  school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in September.
 In
  October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to take
the
  lab test early this year.  Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go to the
  ECP1 class.  By the time my manager approved my training request, I
found
  that Mentor Technologies went belly up.  However, I learned that Bruce
and
  Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC
  (www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes.  I
  registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January.  By the end of
last
  year, the project I worked on finished.  So since the beginning of this
 year
  I got a lot of time to study.  For the past couple of months, I have
 studied
  8-10 hours every day.
 
  As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I  II,
  Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie, Satterlee, etc.) recommended by
people
  on this list.  Among this long list of books, the only one I dont like
is
  Solies book because there are too many errors in the book.  There are a
 few
  topics I was more confused after reading the book.  I dont have a home
 lab.
So my primary resource for hands-on practice is remote labs such as
 Mentor
  Technologies vlabs (not available any more), Cisco ASET lab.  Because I
  dont have a home lab, my preparation included more reading than
hands-on
  practice.  That actually worked out very well for me.  Above all, the
most
  important part of my preparation is the NMC1 class taught by Bruce, Val
 and
  Fred.  IF I HAD NOT TAKEN THE NMC1 CLASS, IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TAKEN
ME
  ONE OR TWO MORE ATTEMPTS BEFORE I COULD GET MY NUMBER.  There are a lot
of
  things that just cannot be learned fr

RE: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]

2002-03-07 Thread Sean Knox

Exactly, it depends on the circumstances. On a resume, I'll list everything
from CCNA to CCNP. This includes MS stuff like MCSE/MCP/etc, because some HR
people are so clueless they think that just because  is
missing from your resume (despite work experience), you don't have a certain
skill set. So I list everything I have just to be safe. In a forum such as
this one, none of that is necessary.

- Sean

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From: Ken Diliberto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 3:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]


But it helps when applying for jobs where they want a CCNA and have no clue
what a CCNP is.

I had a job interview today where they asked what a CCIE was.  :-)

Ken

 Michael J. Doherty  03/07/02 04:28PM 
Actually, if I remember the agreements correctly - you can list the lower
level certs (CCxA, CCxP) with the CCIE.  It is when you are a CCxP that you
should not list the corresponding CCxA.

Mike
[snip]




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Re: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]

2002-03-06 Thread Ocsic

Congratulations!

George Zhang   All,

 The title says it all.  I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab test
 yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the Congratulations on
Passing
 the CCIE Lab! this morning.

 I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday.  I was
told
 that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show up.  My
 test started about 8:15 AM in the morning.  We broke for lunch at about
 12:20PM.  By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some
pressure
 on time.  But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew that I
could
 go through the rest quickly.  After the 15 min lunch break, I worked
through
 rest of the test very quickly.  By about 3:00 PM, I finished every thing
 except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it.  I decided
to
 skip that item.  Then, I started reviewing and checking my config.  Along
 the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues.  Just
about
 the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in and told
me
 that it' time.  I looked at the watch.  It was 4:30 PM.  My proctor was
 Steve.  Steve is a great proctor.  He answered quite a few of my questions
 and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the requirements of
the
 test.

 I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who helped me to
 achieve my goal.  First, I would like to thank my wife for her support and
 understanding.  Without her support, there is no way I could achieve my
 goal.  Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of
 NetMasterClass.  As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most important
 part of my final preparation.  Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who scheduled
 me to access the ASET racks.  Thats my primary resource for hands-on
 practices for the past couple of months.  Thanks to Eric Fairfield for
 lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin.  Also thanks to those
that
 I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another.  Thanks
also
 to Paul for putting this great list together.

 As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications a
little
 over two and half years ago.  I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first year.
 Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test.  I wanted to take the
 lab a year ago.  However, due to work and personal reasons, I did not get
 time to do it until now.  Last year, I was too busy to do much study.  At
 work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for the whole
 year.  At home, my second child was born in February, my wife finished
 school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in September.
In
 October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to take the
 lab test early this year.  Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go to the
 ECP1 class.  By the time my manager approved my training request, I found
 that Mentor Technologies went belly up.  However, I learned that Bruce and
 Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC
 (www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes.  I
 registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January.  By the end of last
 year, the project I worked on finished.  So since the beginning of this
year
 I got a lot of time to study.  For the past couple of months, I have
studied
 8-10 hours every day.

 As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I  II,
 Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie, Satterlee, etc.) recommended by people
 on this list.  Among this long list of books, the only one I dont like
is
 Solies book because there are too many errors in the book.  There are a
few
 topics I was more confused after reading the book.  I dont have a home
lab.
   So my primary resource for hands-on practice is remote labs such as
Mentor
 Technologies vlabs (not available any more), Cisco ASET lab.  Because I
 dont have a home lab, my preparation included more reading than hands-on
 practice.  That actually worked out very well for me.  Above all, the most
 important part of my preparation is the NMC1 class taught by Bruce, Val
and
 Fred.  IF I HAD NOT TAKEN THE NMC1 CLASS, IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TAKEN ME
 ONE OR TWO MORE ATTEMPTS BEFORE I COULD GET MY NUMBER.  There are a lot of
 things that just cannot be learned from reading books or practicing.  So
the
 NMC1 class helped me to fill in that gap very well.  It also helped me to
 access my strength and weakness.  So I know what to study on the last few
 weeks.  I strongly recommend taking the NMC1 class a few weeks before your
 lab date.

 Thanks again.

 George Zhang
 CCIE#8903, CCNA, CCNP
 Sr. Network Architect
 Compuware Corpration
 1 Meadowlands Plaza, Suite 1050
 East Rutherford, NJ 07073
 732-494-0288


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RE: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]

2002-03-06 Thread Lupi, Guy

Did you think you passed when you left the lab?  Congratulations!!

-Original Message-
From: Ocsic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 6:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]


Congratulations!

George Zhang   All,

 The title says it all.  I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab test
 yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the Congratulations on
Passing
 the CCIE Lab! this morning.

 I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday.  I was
told
 that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show up.  My
 test started about 8:15 AM in the morning.  We broke for lunch at about
 12:20PM.  By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some
pressure
 on time.  But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew that I
could
 go through the rest quickly.  After the 15 min lunch break, I worked
through
 rest of the test very quickly.  By about 3:00 PM, I finished every thing
 except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it.  I decided
to
 skip that item.  Then, I started reviewing and checking my config.  Along
 the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues.  Just
about
 the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in and told
me
 that it' time.  I looked at the watch.  It was 4:30 PM.  My proctor was
 Steve.  Steve is a great proctor.  He answered quite a few of my questions
 and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the requirements of
the
 test.

 I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who helped me to
 achieve my goal.  First, I would like to thank my wife for her support and
 understanding.  Without her support, there is no way I could achieve my
 goal.  Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of
 NetMasterClass.  As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most important
 part of my final preparation.  Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who scheduled
 me to access the ASET racks.  Thats my primary resource for hands-on
 practices for the past couple of months.  Thanks to Eric Fairfield for
 lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin.  Also thanks to those
that
 I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another.  Thanks
also
 to Paul for putting this great list together.

 As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications a
little
 over two and half years ago.  I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first year.
 Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test.  I wanted to take the
 lab a year ago.  However, due to work and personal reasons, I did not get
 time to do it until now.  Last year, I was too busy to do much study.  At
 work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for the whole
 year.  At home, my second child was born in February, my wife finished
 school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in September.
In
 October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to take the
 lab test early this year.  Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go to the
 ECP1 class.  By the time my manager approved my training request, I found
 that Mentor Technologies went belly up.  However, I learned that Bruce and
 Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC
 (www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes.  I
 registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January.  By the end of last
 year, the project I worked on finished.  So since the beginning of this
year
 I got a lot of time to study.  For the past couple of months, I have
studied
 8-10 hours every day.

 As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I  II,
 Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie, Satterlee, etc.) recommended by people
 on this list.  Among this long list of books, the only one I dont like
is
 Solies book because there are too many errors in the book.  There are a
few
 topics I was more confused after reading the book.  I dont have a home
lab.
   So my primary resource for hands-on practice is remote labs such as
Mentor
 Technologies vlabs (not available any more), Cisco ASET lab.  Because I
 dont have a home lab, my preparation included more reading than hands-on
 practice.  That actually worked out very well for me.  Above all, the most
 important part of my preparation is the NMC1 class taught by Bruce, Val
and
 Fred.  IF I HAD NOT TAKEN THE NMC1 CLASS, IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TAKEN ME
 ONE OR TWO MORE ATTEMPTS BEFORE I COULD GET MY NUMBER.  There are a lot of
 things that just cannot be learned from reading books or practicing.  So
the
 NMC1 class helped me to fill in that gap very well.  It also helped me to
 access my strength and weakness.  So I know what to study on the last few
 weeks.  I strongly recommend taking the NMC1 class a few weeks before your
 lab date.

 Thanks again.

 George Zhang
 CCIE#8903, CCNA, CCNP
 Sr. Network Architect
 Compuware Corpration
 1 Meadowlands Plaza, Suite 1050
 East Rutherford, NJ 07073
 732-494-0288

RE: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]

2002-03-06 Thread Rik Guyler

George, you are an inspiration to us all.  Thanks for the description of
your journey and congratulations!

Rik

-Original Message-
From: George Zhang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 6:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]


All,

The title says it all.  I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab test 
yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the Congratulations on Passing 
the CCIE Lab! this morning.

I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday.  I was told 
that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show up.  My 
test started about 8:15 AM in the morning.  We broke for lunch at about 
12:20PM.  By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some pressure 
on time.  But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew that I could

go through the rest quickly.  After the 15 min lunch break, I worked through

rest of the test very quickly.  By about 3:00 PM, I finished every thing 
except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it.  I decided to 
skip that item.  Then, I started reviewing and checking my config.  Along 
the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues.  Just about

the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in and told me

that it' time.  I looked at the watch.  It was 4:30 PM.  My proctor was 
Steve.  Steve is a great proctor.  He answered quite a few of my questions 
and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the requirements of the

test.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who helped me to 
achieve my goal.  First, I would like to thank my wife for her support and 
understanding.  Without her support, there is no way I could achieve my 
goal.  Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of 
NetMasterClass.  As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most important 
part of my final preparation.  Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who scheduled 
me to access the ASET racks.  Thats my primary resource for hands-on 
practices for the past couple of months.  Thanks to Eric Fairfield for 
lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin.  Also thanks to those that

I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another.  Thanks also 
to Paul for putting this great list together.

As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications a little 
over two and half years ago.  I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first year.  
Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test.  I wanted to take the 
lab a year ago.  However, due to work and personal reasons, I did not get 
time to do it until now.  Last year, I was too busy to do much study.  At 
work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for the whole 
year.  At home, my second child was born in February, my wife finished 
school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in September.  In 
October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to take the 
lab test early this year.  Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go to the 
ECP1 class.  By the time my manager approved my training request, I found 
that Mentor Technologies went belly up.  However, I learned that Bruce and 
Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC 
(www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes.  I 
registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January.  By the end of last 
year, the project I worked on finished.  So since the beginning of this year

I got a lot of time to study.  For the past couple of months, I have studied

8-10 hours every day.

As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I  II, 
Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie, Satterlee, etc.) recommended by people 
on this list.  Among this long list of books, the only one I dont like is 
Solies book because there are too many errors in the book.  There are a few

topics I was more confused after reading the book.  I dont have a home lab.

  So my primary resource for hands-on practice is remote labs such as Mentor

Technologies vlabs (not available any more), Cisco ASET lab.  Because I 
dont have a home lab, my preparation included more reading than hands-on 
practice.  That actually worked out very well for me.  Above all, the most 
important part of my preparation is the NMC1 class taught by Bruce, Val and 
Fred.  IF I HAD NOT TAKEN THE NMC1 CLASS, IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TAKEN ME 
ONE OR TWO MORE ATTEMPTS BEFORE I COULD GET MY NUMBER.  There are a lot of 
things that just cannot be learned from reading books or practicing.  So the

NMC1 class helped me to fill in that gap very well.  It also helped me to 
access my strength and weakness.  So I know what to study on the last few 
weeks.  I strongly recommend taking the NMC1 class a few weeks before your 
lab date.

Thanks again.

George Zhang
CCIE#8903, CCNA, CCNP
Sr. Network Architect
Compuware Corpration
1 Meadowlands Plaza, Suite 1050
East Rutherford, NJ 07073
732-494-0288



Re: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]

2002-03-06 Thread Ronald James

Great Job, Congrats!!

Thanks for sharing...!!


George Zhang  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 All,

 The title says it all.  I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab test
 yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the Congratulations on
Passing
 the CCIE Lab! this morning.

 I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday.  I was
told
 that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show up.  My
 test started about 8:15 AM in the morning.  We broke for lunch at about
 12:20PM.  By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some
pressure
 on time.  But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew that I
could
 go through the rest quickly.  After the 15 min lunch break, I worked
through
 rest of the test very quickly.  By about 3:00 PM, I finished every thing
 except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it.  I decided
to
 skip that item.  Then, I started reviewing and checking my config.  Along
 the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues.  Just
about
 the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in and told
me
 that it' time.  I looked at the watch.  It was 4:30 PM.  My proctor was
 Steve.  Steve is a great proctor.  He answered quite a few of my questions
 and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the requirements of
the
 test.

 I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who helped me to
 achieve my goal.  First, I would like to thank my wife for her support and
 understanding.  Without her support, there is no way I could achieve my
 goal.  Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of
 NetMasterClass.  As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most important
 part of my final preparation.  Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who scheduled
 me to access the ASET racks.  Thats my primary resource for hands-on
 practices for the past couple of months.  Thanks to Eric Fairfield for
 lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin.  Also thanks to those
that
 I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another.  Thanks
also
 to Paul for putting this great list together.

 As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications a
little
 over two and half years ago.  I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first year.
 Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test.  I wanted to take the
 lab a year ago.  However, due to work and personal reasons, I did not get
 time to do it until now.  Last year, I was too busy to do much study.  At
 work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for the whole
 year.  At home, my second child was born in February, my wife finished
 school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in September.
In
 October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to take the
 lab test early this year.  Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go to the
 ECP1 class.  By the time my manager approved my training request, I found
 that Mentor Technologies went belly up.  However, I learned that Bruce and
 Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC
 (www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes.  I
 registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January.  By the end of last
 year, the project I worked on finished.  So since the beginning of this
year
 I got a lot of time to study.  For the past couple of months, I have
studied
 8-10 hours every day.

 As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I  II,
 Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie, Satterlee, etc.) recommended by people
 on this list.  Among this long list of books, the only one I dont like is
 Solies book because there are too many errors in the book.  There are a
few
 topics I was more confused after reading the book.  I dont have a home
lab.
   So my primary resource for hands-on practice is remote labs such as
Mentor
 Technologies vlabs (not available any more), Cisco ASET lab.  Because I
 dont have a home lab, my preparation included more reading than hands-on
 practice.  That actually worked out very well for me.  Above all, the most
 important part of my preparation is the NMC1 class taught by Bruce, Val
and
 Fred.  IF I HAD NOT TAKEN THE NMC1 CLASS, IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TAKEN ME
 ONE OR TWO MORE ATTEMPTS BEFORE I COULD GET MY NUMBER.  There are a lot of
 things that just cannot be learned from reading books or practicing.  So
the
 NMC1 class helped me to fill in that gap very well.  It also helped me to
 access my strength and weakness.  So I know what to study on the last few
 weeks.  I strongly recommend taking the NMC1 class a few weeks before your
 lab date.

 Thanks again.

 George Zhang
 CCIE#8903, CCNA, CCNP
 Sr. Network Architect
 Compuware Corpration
 1 Meadowlands Plaza, Suite 1050
 East Rutherford, NJ 07073
 732-494-0288


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Re: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]

2002-03-06 Thread PING

Many congrats!!!

Nadeem
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George Zhang wrote:

 All,

 The title says it all.  I took my first attempt at the CCIE lab test
 yesterday (March 5) in Halifax and received the Congratulations on Passing
 the CCIE Lab! this morning.

 I was the only person taking the lab test in Halifax yesterday.  I was told
 that there was another person scheduled yesterday but did not show up.  My
 test started about 8:15 AM in the morning.  We broke for lunch at about
 12:20PM.  By then, I only finished all the IGP stuff and felt some pressure
 on time.  But I have already reviewed rest of the test and knew that I
could
 go through the rest quickly.  After the 15 min lunch break, I worked
through
 rest of the test very quickly.  By about 3:00 PM, I finished every thing
 except one small requirement that I had no clue how to do it.  I decided to
 skip that item.  Then, I started reviewing and checking my config.  Along
 the way of reviewing/checking, I spotted and fixed a few issues.  Just
about
 the time I finished reviewing every thing, the proctor walked in and told
me
 that it' time.  I looked at the watch.  It was 4:30 PM.  My proctor was
 Steve.  Steve is a great proctor.  He answered quite a few of my questions
 and cleared my mis-understanding and confusion about the requirements of
the
 test.

 I would like to take this opportunity to thank all people who helped me to
 achieve my goal.  First, I would like to thank my wife for her support and
 understanding.  Without her support, there is no way I could achieve my
 goal.  Next, I will give my thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred of
 NetMasterClass.  As I said earlier, the NMC1 class is the most important
 part of my final preparation.  Thanks to Katie Wong of Cisco who scheduled
 me to access the ASET racks.  Thats my primary resource for hands-on
 practices for the past couple of months.  Thanks to Eric Fairfield for
 lending me a few routers when I was in Wisconsin.  Also thanks to those
that
 I've either studied with or have helped me one way or another.  Thanks also
 to Paul for putting this great list together.

 As far as my story, I started my quest of the Cisco certifications a little
 over two and half years ago.  I got my CCNA and CCNP in the first year.
 Three months later, I passed the CCIE written test.  I wanted to take the
 lab a year ago.  However, due to work and personal reasons, I did not get
 time to do it until now.  Last year, I was too busy to do much study.  At
 work, as a consultant, I was billing at least 40 hours/week for the whole
 year.  At home, my second child was born in February, my wife finished
 school in July, and we moved to New Jersey from Wisconsin in September.  In
 October of last year, I foresaw a window of opportunity for me to take the
 lab test early this year.  Then, I lobbed my manager to let me go to the
 ECP1 class.  By the time my manager approved my training request, I found
 that Mentor Technologies went belly up.  However, I learned that Bruce and
 Val founded a new company called NetMasterClass, LLC
 (www.netmasterclass.net) and offering the NMC1 and NMC2 classes.  I
 registered and took the NMC1 class by the end January.  By the end of last
 year, the project I worked on finished.  So since the beginning of this
year
 I got a lot of time to study.  For the past couple of months, I have
studied
 8-10 hours every day.

 As far as how I prepared, I have read most of the books (Doyle I  II,
 Caslow, Halabi, Tam-Nam-Kee, Solie, Satterlee, etc.) recommended by people
 on this list.  Among this long list of books, the only one I dont like is
 Solies book because there are too many errors in the book.  There are a
few
 topics I was more confused after reading the book.  I dont have a home
lab.
   So my primary resource for hands-on practice is remote labs such as
Mentor
 Technologies vlabs (not available any more), Cisco ASET lab.  Because I
 dont have a home lab, my preparation included more reading than hands-on
 practice.  That actually worked out very well for me.  Above all, the most
 important part of my preparation is the NMC1 class taught by Bruce, Val and
 Fred.  IF I HAD NOT TAKEN THE NMC1 CLASS, IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TAKEN ME
 ONE OR TWO MORE ATTEMPTS BEFORE I COULD GET MY NUMBER.  There are a lot of
 things that just cannot be learned from reading books or practicing.  So
the
 NMC1 class helped me to fill in that gap very well.  It also helped me to
 access my strength and weakness.  So I know what to study on the last few
 weeks.  I strongly recommend taking the NMC1 class a few weeks before your
 lab date.

 Thanks again.

 George Zhang
 CCIE#8903, CCNA, CCNP
 Sr. Network Architect
 Compuware Corpration
 1 Meadowlands Plaza, Suite 1050
 East Rutherford, NJ 07073
 732-494-0288

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Re: CCIE#8903 [7:37490]

2002-03-06 Thread Juli Hato

Congratulation George Zhang !

Juli Hato
CCNP, CCDP




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