Re: CCIE Beta results [7:47144]

2002-06-24 Thread groupstudy.com

Did anyone receive the score ?

I would like to know
Nigel Taylor  wrote in message
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 Folks,
  I'm trying to understand how cisco went about grading this exam.
 Much like everyone else
 I too was told by Prometric when I called in that I had passed the exam
 however, the score report
 I received had something totally different in mind( yes I failed!)

 What I thought was strange was the passing score which was 45%.   I guess
 44% leaves short of the mark.
 This beta reminds me of the CCIE Security beta in which not many folks
on
 the list passed.

 Good thing this test didn't count as a recert credit.  I guess I'll be
 thinking about taking the
 recert exam sometime next year...:-

 Nigel

 - Original Message -
 From: Michael L. Williams
 To:
 Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 6:44 PM
 Subject: Re: CCIE Beta results [7:47144]


  Are the scores starting to come in now?  I still haven't received mine
  yet... =(
 
  Although, banking on the fact I would fail, I went ahead and took the
  current written and passed, so I'm not too worried about the beta
  results... just curious =)
 
  Mike W.
 
  Semiglia Bodero  wrote in message
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   Did you receive the score?.




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Re: CCIE Beta results [7:47144]

2002-06-24 Thread Michael L. Williams

I received my score in the mail today.. I PASSED!!!   I have *no* idea
how I slid by, but I got a 50 on it.  (passing score was 45)

The beta was very difficult, so much so that I forked up the $300 and took
the current written a week or so later (and passed)... So I could look at
this as $300 wasted, or not. I choose not.  If anything, I look at
it as $50 well spent, just to keep me up on what changes are going to be
made to the written.

Mike W.

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 I would like to know




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RE: CCIE Beta results [7:47144]

2002-06-23 Thread Semiglia Bodero

Did you receive the score?.


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Re: CCIE Beta results [7:47144]

2002-06-23 Thread Michael L. Williams

Are the scores starting to come in now?  I still haven't received mine
yet... =(

Although, banking on the fact I would fail, I went ahead and took the
current written and passed, so I'm not too worried about the beta
results... just curious =)

Mike W.

Semiglia Bodero  wrote in message
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 Did you receive the score?.




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Re: CCIE Beta results [7:47144]

2002-06-23 Thread Nigel Taylor

Folks,
 I'm trying to understand how cisco went about grading this exam.
Much like everyone else
I too was told by Prometric when I called in that I had passed the exam
however, the score report
I received had something totally different in mind( yes I failed!)

What I thought was strange was the passing score which was 45%.   I guess
44% leaves short of the mark.
This beta reminds me of the CCIE Security beta in which not many folks on
the list passed.

Good thing this test didn't count as a recert credit.  I guess I'll be
thinking about taking the
recert exam sometime next year...:-

Nigel

- Original Message -
From: Michael L. Williams 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: CCIE Beta results [7:47144]


 Are the scores starting to come in now?  I still haven't received mine
 yet... =(

 Although, banking on the fact I would fail, I went ahead and took the
 current written and passed, so I'm not too worried about the beta
 results... just curious =)

 Mike W.

 Semiglia Bodero  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Did you receive the score?.




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Re: CCIE Beta results [7:47144]

2002-06-23 Thread Chuck

As someone who was awarded a particular set of certifications based on
passing four beta tests, I may have a bit of insight here.

First of all, as you know, there are far more questions on the beta than you
would see on the real thing. All questions are analyzed based upon some
weighting of the stated experience of the test takers, in addition as to
whether or not the takers got the correct answer.

Granted, the experience weighting must be taken with a bit of salt. Some
folks understate their experience, thinking that this makes it easier for
them to pass, so I've heard.

But in general, a good statistical analysis of each question, right and
wrong answers, and weighted by stated experience SHOULD give a pretty good
idea as to whether or not the question is fair.

Suppose that everyone who took the test missed question number 7 and
everyone also got question number 10 correct. One MIGHT conclude that #7 is
an unfair question because it is too hard, too ambiguous, too stupid,
whatever, and #10 is also unfair in the opposite sense - too easy. then the
analysts look at number 15, and they find that 80% of those with strong
experience got the question correct, while 80% of those with little
experience missed the question. The conclusion here MAY be that #15 is a
fair question.

So out of the 300 or so questions on the beta test, the analysis determines
that 175 of those questions are fair. From there it is not so hard to
determine a scale, and from that a passing score.

No and I don't have a clue as to how that CCIE Security beta was graded. I
don't know anyone who passed, and I know a couple of folks with a couple of
years of very strong PIX and IDS experience who failed. I hear the security
Lab is a bummer too. ;-

Nigel, it hasn't been THAT long since you passed your Lab, has it? You
should still have about six months play time before you have to hit the
books again. :-




Nigel Taylor  wrote in message
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 Folks,
  I'm trying to understand how cisco went about grading this exam.
 Much like everyone else
 I too was told by Prometric when I called in that I had passed the exam
 however, the score report
 I received had something totally different in mind( yes I failed!)

 What I thought was strange was the passing score which was 45%.   I guess
 44% leaves short of the mark.
 This beta reminds me of the CCIE Security beta in which not many folks
on
 the list passed.

 Good thing this test didn't count as a recert credit.  I guess I'll be
 thinking about taking the
 recert exam sometime next year...:-

 Nigel

 - Original Message -
 From: Michael L. Williams
 To:
 Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 6:44 PM
 Subject: Re: CCIE Beta results [7:47144]


  Are the scores starting to come in now?  I still haven't received mine
  yet... =(
 
  Although, banking on the fact I would fail, I went ahead and took the
  current written and passed, so I'm not too worried about the beta
  results... just curious =)
 
  Mike W.
 
  Semiglia Bodero  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Did you receive the score?.




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RE: CCIE Beta results [7:47144]

2002-06-21 Thread Frank Merrill

I did call Prometric a while back, and yes, they did indicate a passing
score, but then I asked the CCIE team to verify the validity of that
information, and they clearly said that the results had not been fully
analyzed, and that the pass/fail cut had not yet been determined.  (That was
about 2 weeks ago I think).

So, if you called Prometric, did they really give you correct info, or are
they just still making the mistake of giving out information that's not
correct?

I agree that this Beta was a bit tough, and that the current 350-001 is a
walk in the park comparatively speaking.

Good Luck!




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RE: CCIE Beta results [7:47144]

2002-06-21 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

Prometric may be giving out accurate information at this point, unless they
just get off by messing with our minds. The first time I called (about two
weeks ago) they said I had passed, which I couldn't believe because I didn't
even study for it and was only curious to see what was on the beta. I called
today and they said that I had failed, which was more in line with my
expectations.

Shawn K.

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 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: CCIE Beta results [7:47144]
 
 I did call Prometric a while back, and yes, they did indicate a passing
 score, but then I asked the CCIE team to verify the validity of that
 information, and they clearly said that the results had not been fully
 analyzed, and that the pass/fail cut had not yet been determined.  (That
 was
 about 2 weeks ago I think).
 
 So, if you called Prometric, did they really give you correct info, or are
 they just still making the mistake of giving out information that's not
 correct?
 
 I agree that this Beta was a bit tough, and that the current 350-001 is a
 walk in the park comparatively speaking.
 
 Good Luck!




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