RE: CCIE written [7:58400]
Hey, the ccie should stay hard - this is the point! But product and memory question is not hard - just the opposite ! I -Original Message- From: Steve Dispensa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE written [7:58400] I must admit that I was surprised to see so many product questions on my last CCIE recert (security). I was expecting difficult technical questions and (relatively) easy product questions, and I got the reverse - the technical questions were simple, and the product questions were surprisingly detailed. In general, though, I found the blueprint on the website to be pretty accurate. My $0.02, anyway. -sd On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 11:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Someone should say this already : > There is no experties-checking in any ccie written exam! > The ccie is a rip-off! > 50% memory questions (like "what vip version is eprom-value:01e00" and other > shit.." > I got the "official exam certification guide" I am a ccip/ccdp/ccnp and I > never got so miss-leaded! this book from july 2002 (very new) and it says > (page 4) the exam is 100 question + does not include the fddi and many more > ... it is missleading in many areas > + > the question and cd-test is 80% less > hard then the actual test and it tells > you that they are harder! > i payed the price for getting the book for an idea of the test and i > got the > wrong idea! > i think that cisco is doing something very wrong with this > The material are quite broad and you can ask many hard questions on the > technologies But there are so many of them about "how many slots in > this..?","what version support that..?","what ip precedence number is > flush.." that gets you thinking cisco is not Concern about checking your > experties but something complitly different - that gets people like us > talking about the exams like it is something to brag about! -- Steve Dispensa Chief Technology Officer Positive Networks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58533&t=58400 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RE: CCIE written [7:58400]
I've noticed however that the lab itself isn't booked heavily (I could be wrong) If the pool isn't full, turn on the hose and fill it up. Training down your qualification requirements accomplishes that as far as I see it. On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 16:19, Bernard wrote: > Priscilla, > > "more doable" & "less scary" refers to the same exam (new format) at > different passing scores. > I did not mean to compare the new format and the old format. > > The new CCIE written exam with 58% as the passing score is "more doable" > & "less scary" than the same new CCIE written exam with 70% as the > passing score. > > Rgds, > > Bernard > > > > > > This exam is much more doable now. It is not as scary as it > > > used to be > > > at 70%. > > > > Isn't your logic backwards if you say that the exam is more doable and > > less > > scary now? > > > > To maintain the same ratio of passing people versus non-passing > people, > > they > > reduced the passing score because the exam is harder to pass than it > used > > to > > be. > > > > At least that is what I would assume, or am I confused? > > > > Priscilla Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58488&t=58400 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RE: CCIE written [7:58400]
Priscilla, "more doable" & "less scary" refers to the same exam (new format) at different passing scores. I did not mean to compare the new format and the old format. The new CCIE written exam with 58% as the passing score is "more doable" & "less scary" than the same new CCIE written exam with 70% as the passing score. Rgds, Bernard > > This exam is much more doable now. It is not as scary as it > > used to be > > at 70%. > > Isn't your logic backwards if you say that the exam is more doable and > less > scary now? > > To maintain the same ratio of passing people versus non-passing people, > they > reduced the passing score because the exam is harder to pass than it used > to > be. > > At least that is what I would assume, or am I confused? > > Priscilla Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58486&t=58400 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RE: CCIE written [7:58400]
i can attest to that...i passed w/o a prob 3 yrs ago & failed on the new written...its a night & day difference...when they lower the pass mark from 70% to 58%, it should make you think! -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 11:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: CCIE written [7:58400] B.J. Wilson wrote: > > I would think that this would be a bad thing, for two reasons: > one, the number of people who put "CCIE Written" on their > resumes will increase, and the availability of lab dates will > decrease. I don't think the lower passing score means more people pass. The test is harder than it used to be. > > US$0.02, > > BJ > > > ---Original Message--- > From: Bernard > Sent: 12/03/02 11:29 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: CCIE written [7:58400] > > > Cisco is using a sliding scale based on overall failure rate > of the > exam. As of 10/19, you needed a 58% to pass, not the 70% . The > required % to pass will change over time, again based on > failure rate. > This exam is much more doable now. It is not as scary as it > used to be > at 70%. Isn't your logic backwards if you say that the exam is more doable and less scary now? To maintain the same ratio of passing people versus non-passing people, they reduced the passing score because the exam is harder to pass than it used to be. At least that is what I would assume, or am I confused? Priscilla > > Bernard > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 3:30 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: CCIE written [7:58400] > > > > From my experience the passing score were 70% Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58484&t=58400 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE: CCIE written [7:58400]
B.J. Wilson wrote: > > I would think that this would be a bad thing, for two reasons: > one, the number of people who put "CCIE Written" on their > resumes will increase, and the availability of lab dates will > decrease. I don't think the lower passing score means more people pass. The test is harder than it used to be. > > US$0.02, > > BJ > > > ---Original Message--- > From: Bernard > Sent: 12/03/02 11:29 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: CCIE written [7:58400] > > > Cisco is using a sliding scale based on overall failure rate > of the > exam. As of 10/19, you needed a 58% to pass, not the 70% . The > required % to pass will change over time, again based on > failure rate. > This exam is much more doable now. It is not as scary as it > used to be > at 70%. Isn't your logic backwards if you say that the exam is more doable and less scary now? To maintain the same ratio of passing people versus non-passing people, they reduced the passing score because the exam is harder to pass than it used to be. At least that is what I would assume, or am I confused? Priscilla > > Bernard > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 3:30 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: CCIE written [7:58400] > > > > From my experience the passing score were 70% > > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58478&t=58400 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE written [7:58400]
I must admit that I was surprised to see so many product questions on my last CCIE recert (security). I was expecting difficult technical questions and (relatively) easy product questions, and I got the reverse - the technical questions were simple, and the product questions were surprisingly detailed. In general, though, I found the blueprint on the website to be pretty accurate. My $0.02, anyway. -sd On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 11:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Someone should say this already : > There is no experties-checking in any ccie written exam! > The ccie is a rip-off! > 50% memory questions (like "what vip version is eprom-value:01e00" and other > shit.." > I got the "official exam certification guide" I am a ccip/ccdp/ccnp and I > never got so miss-leaded! this book from july 2002 (very new) and it says > (page 4) the exam is 100 question + does not include the fddi and many more > ... it is missleading in many areas > + > the question and cd-test is 80% less > hard then the actual test and it tells > you that they are harder! > i payed the price for getting the book for an idea of the test and i got the > wrong idea! > i think that cisco is doing something very wrong with this > The material are quite broad and you can ask many hard questions on the > technologies But there are so many of them about "how many slots in > this..?","what version support that..?","what ip precedence number is > flush.." that gets you thinking cisco is not Concern about checking your > experties but something complitly different - that gets people like us > talking about the exams like it is something to brag about! -- Steve Dispensa Chief Technology Officer Positive Networks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58472&t=58400 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RE: CCIE written [7:58400]
They better not be putting CCIE written, see point 2 below... I posted this in a thread on the jobs@groupstudy list - straight from the source: Discussion Thread Response (Marisol) 11/21/2002 08:50 AM Dear Bill: Thank you for your patience. 1) When using the logos for business cards or signatures, it is preferred that you use the highest certification as those familiar with Cisco certifications will know the order of certifications. 2) Signature lines, cover letters, or resumes can not reference that an individual is a CCIE candidate. Only CCIE certified individuals should reference their certification as they have already completed it. 3) Trademark violations are escalated to our legal team and are strictly enforced. In addition to the loss of Cisco certifications, legal actions can also be taken when this happens. If you have any further questions, click on the hyperlink below to update, review or generate a support request. Be sure to bookmark the www.cisco.com/go/certsupport site for all of your future Cisco Training and Career Certification inquires. -Original Message- From: B.J. Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 10:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: CCIE written [7:58400] I would think that this would be a bad thing, for two reasons: one, the number of people who put "CCIE Written" on their resumes will increase, and the availability of lab dates will decrease. US$0.02, BJ ---Original Message--- From: Bernard Sent: 12/03/02 11:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE written [7:58400] > Cisco is using a sliding scale based on overall failure rate of the exam. As of 10/19, you needed a 58% to pass, not the 70% . The required % to pass will change over time, again based on failure rate. This exam is much more doable now. It is not as scary as it used to be at 70%. Bernard > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 3:30 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CCIE written [7:58400] > > From my experience the passing score were 70% Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58459&t=58400 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE written [7:58400]
Someone should say this already : There is no experties-checking in any ccie written exam! The ccie is a rip-off! 50% memory questions (like "what vip version is eprom-value:01e00" and other shit.." I got the "official exam certification guide" I am a ccip/ccdp/ccnp and I never got so miss-leaded! this book from july 2002 (very new) and it says (page 4) the exam is 100 question + does not include the fddi and many more ... it is missleading in many areas + the question and cd-test is 80% less hard then the actual test and it tells you that they are harder! i payed the price for getting the book for an idea of the test and i got the wrong idea! i think that cisco is doing something very wrong with this The material are quite broad and you can ask many hard questions on the technologies But there are so many of them about "how many slots in this..?","what version support that..?","what ip precedence number is flush.." that gets you thinking cisco is not Concern about checking your experties but something complitly different - that gets people like us talking about the exams like it is something to brag about! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58456&t=58400 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE: CCIE written [7:58400]
I would think that this would be a bad thing, for two reasons: one, the number of people who put "CCIE Written" on their resumes will increase, and the availability of lab dates will decrease. US$0.02, BJ ---Original Message--- From: Bernard Sent: 12/03/02 11:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE written [7:58400] > Cisco is using a sliding scale based on overall failure rate of the exam. As of 10/19, you needed a 58% to pass, not the 70% . The required % to pass will change over time, again based on failure rate. This exam is much more doable now. It is not as scary as it used to be at 70%. Bernard > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 3:30 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CCIE written [7:58400] > > From my experience the passing score were 70% Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58451&t=58400 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE written [7:58400]
Cisco is using a sliding scale based on overall failure rate of the exam. As of 10/19, you needed a 58% to pass, not the 70% . The required % to pass will change over time, again based on failure rate. This exam is much more doable now. It is not as scary as it used to be at 70%. Bernard > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 3:30 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CCIE written [7:58400] > > From my experience the passing score were 70% Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58449&t=58400 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE written [7:58400]
>From my experience the passing score were 70% Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58431&t=58400 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE written [7:58400]
It is very difficult, although the passing score is low ( less than 60 %) but you got to work really hard to pass it. neil ""saj"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi, > Just want to know whether anyone has attempted CCIE > theory and lab recently.Whether there are any > changes.How hard is the CCIE written? > Thanks. > Saj > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58411&t=58400 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE written [7:58400]
The written is very hard. Take a look at the www.groupstudy.com archives and you'll find a lot of information about the proper books and prep materials to start studying from. saj wrote: Hi, Just want to know whether anyone has attempted CCIE theory and lab recently.Whether there are any changes.How hard is the CCIE written? Thanks. Saj __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58406&t=58400 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
