Re: CCNP now, Thank You! [7:21495]

2001-10-01 Thread mike

What opinion did you previously express regarding the state of CCNP tests?

Mike

Leigh Anne Chisholm  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 There must be a problem with me, because I didn't find anything on the CIT
 exam to be poorly worded or difficult to understand.  Then again, I used
to
 work at a law firm so perhaps my background gives me an unfair advantage.
 (-:

 Previously I've expressed my opinion about the state of the CCNP exams.
 That opinion holds true for CIT as well.  And that in itself is likely the
 real reason why I didn't find any of the questions difficult to
 understand...


   -- Leigh Anne (just Remote Access left...)

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  mike
  Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 2:50 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: CCNP now, Thank You! [7:21495]
 
 
  I can't agree with you more about the questions being worded
  badly.  I also
  just finished the CIT exam  for my CCNP.  Every CCNP test I went
  into I felt
  very confident and found myself during the test wondering where
  the hell did
  they come up with some of these questions.  You have to be a laywer to
  interpret some of them.  Although I did well on all of the tests
  an am glad
  that I got the CCNP cert, I really don't feel like my knowledge of
  networking was put to the test.  I hope the CCIE is more
  realistic.  Anyway,
  congrats and good luck!
 
  Mike
  Ole Drews Jensen  wrote in message
  news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Here's a thanks to all of you who directly and indirectly helped me
pass
  my
   CCNP exams. I passed CIT this morning as the last one.
  
   The CIT exam was the one I felt best prepared for, but passed
  with a lower
   score that any of the others. I felt that the questions were worded
very
   badly compared to the other exams, and I was asked questions about
  specific
   details that I did not recall having read in any of my books. Anyway,
I
   passed - so I'm happy!
  
   A little advise to those of you who are on the first step on the CCNP
   ladder:
  
   1) Read at least two books for each exam, unless you feel very sure
you
  know
   everything you need to. A good rule that I have used, is to get a
study
   guide with good reviews. You can search, find and check for those on
   http://www.amazon.com. A study guide usually uses an easier
  language that
   you can better understand if you're reading about the topic for
  the first
   time. As a second book, I like to buy a CiscoPress course or exam
book,
   because they are more detail specific regarding what they want
  you to know
   for the exam. I do not recommend CiscoPress course or exam books as
the
  only
   book unless you are good at reading and understanding technical
   explanations. They can be a little hard to understand if you're
  not really
   sure what they're trying to tell you.
  
   2) Download the Cisco exams from Boson. Take all three test exams, and
  then
   buy the full version of the one you score lowest in.
  
   3) Look on the Internet for other good helping tools or
  descriptions. For
   the CIT, I recommend using the Flash Cards that Priscilla has
available
   (http://www.priscilla.com), and for the BCMSN exam, I recommend my own
   applications to help you train the commands on the Catalyst 5000 and
   calculate Multicast layer 2 and 3 addresses. Those two
  applications can be
   found by following my RouterChief link below.
  
   Now on to CSS1 starting Monday or Tuesday when I expect the book to
  arrive.
  
   Have a nice weekend,
  
   Ole
  
   ~~~
Ole Drews Jensen
Systems Network Manager
CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
RWR Enterprises, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   ~~~
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RE: CCNP now, Thank You! [7:21495]

2001-10-01 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

It can be found in the archives...

http://www.groupstudy.com/cgi-bin/wilma/cisco



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 mike
 Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 3:44 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: CCNP now, Thank You! [7:21495]


 What opinion did you previously express regarding the state of CCNP tests?

 Mike

 Leigh Anne Chisholm  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  There must be a problem with me, because I didn't find anything
 on the CIT
  exam to be poorly worded or difficult to understand.  Then again, I used
 to
  work at a law firm so perhaps my background gives me an unfair
 advantage.
  (-:
 
  Previously I've expressed my opinion about the state of the CCNP exams.
  That opinion holds true for CIT as well.  And that in itself is
 likely the
  real reason why I didn't find any of the questions difficult to
  understand...
 
 
-- Leigh Anne (just Remote Access left...)
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
   mike
   Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 2:50 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: CCNP now, Thank You! [7:21495]
  
  
   I can't agree with you more about the questions being worded
   badly.  I also
   just finished the CIT exam  for my CCNP.  Every CCNP test I went
   into I felt
   very confident and found myself during the test wondering where
   the hell did
   they come up with some of these questions.  You have to be a laywer to
   interpret some of them.  Although I did well on all of the tests
   an am glad
   that I got the CCNP cert, I really don't feel like my knowledge of
   networking was put to the test.  I hope the CCIE is more
   realistic.  Anyway,
   congrats and good luck!
  
   Mike
   Ole Drews Jensen  wrote in message
   news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Here's a thanks to all of you who directly and indirectly helped me
 pass
   my
CCNP exams. I passed CIT this morning as the last one.
   
The CIT exam was the one I felt best prepared for, but passed
   with a lower
score that any of the others. I felt that the questions were worded
 very
badly compared to the other exams, and I was asked questions about
   specific
details that I did not recall having read in any of my
 books. Anyway,
 I
passed - so I'm happy!
   
A little advise to those of you who are on the first step
 on the CCNP
ladder:
   
1) Read at least two books for each exam, unless you feel very sure
 you
   know
everything you need to. A good rule that I have used, is to get a
 study
guide with good reviews. You can search, find and check for those on
http://www.amazon.com. A study guide usually uses an easier
   language that
you can better understand if you're reading about the topic for
   the first
time. As a second book, I like to buy a CiscoPress course or exam
 book,
because they are more detail specific regarding what they want
   you to know
for the exam. I do not recommend CiscoPress course or exam books as
 the
   only
book unless you are good at reading and understanding technical
explanations. They can be a little hard to understand if you're
   not really
sure what they're trying to tell you.
   
2) Download the Cisco exams from Boson. Take all three test
 exams, and
   then
buy the full version of the one you score lowest in.
   
3) Look on the Internet for other good helping tools or
   descriptions. For
the CIT, I recommend using the Flash Cards that Priscilla has
 available
(http://www.priscilla.com), and for the BCMSN exam, I
 recommend my own
applications to help you train the commands on the Catalyst 5000 and
calculate Multicast layer 2 and 3 addresses. Those two
   applications can be
found by following my RouterChief link below.
   
Now on to CSS1 starting Monday or Tuesday when I expect the book to
   arrive.
   
Have a nice weekend,
   
Ole
   
~~~
 Ole Drews Jensen
 Systems Network Manager
 CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
 RWR Enterprises, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
~~~
 http://www.RouterChief.com
~~~
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Re: CCNP now, Thank You! [7:21495]

2001-09-30 Thread George Murphy CCNP, CCDP

Congrats Ole Drews!, You have a lot of respectable experience and now CCNP to
boot!   Many good wishes.. for you and your family :-) In the
end they are
what count the most!..

Ole Drews Jensen wrote:

 Here's a thanks to all of you who directly and indirectly helped me pass my
 CCNP exams. I passed CIT this morning as the last one.

 The CIT exam was the one I felt best prepared for, but passed with a lower
 score that any of the others. I felt that the questions were worded very
 badly compared to the other exams, and I was asked questions about specific
 details that I did not recall having read in any of my books. Anyway, I
 passed - so I'm happy!

 A little advise to those of you who are on the first step on the CCNP
 ladder:

 1) Read at least two books for each exam, unless you feel very sure you
know
 everything you need to. A good rule that I have used, is to get a study
 guide with good reviews. You can search, find and check for those on
 http://www.amazon.com. A study guide usually uses an easier language that
 you can better understand if you're reading about the topic for the first
 time. As a second book, I like to buy a CiscoPress course or exam book,
 because they are more detail specific regarding what they want you to know
 for the exam. I do not recommend CiscoPress course or exam books as the
only
 book unless you are good at reading and understanding technical
 explanations. They can be a little hard to understand if you're not really
 sure what they're trying to tell you.

 2) Download the Cisco exams from Boson. Take all three test exams, and then
 buy the full version of the one you score lowest in.

 3) Look on the Internet for other good helping tools or descriptions. For
 the CIT, I recommend using the Flash Cards that Priscilla has available
 (http://www.priscilla.com), and for the BCMSN exam, I recommend my own
 applications to help you train the commands on the Catalyst 5000 and
 calculate Multicast layer 2 and 3 addresses. Those two applications can be
 found by following my RouterChief link below.

 Now on to CSS1 starting Monday or Tuesday when I expect the book to arrive.

 Have a nice weekend,

 Ole

 ~~~
  Ole Drews Jensen
  Systems Network Manager
  CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ~~~
  http://www.RouterChief.com
 ~~~
  NEED A JOB ???
  http://www.oledrews.com/job
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RE: CCNP now, Thank You! [7:21495]

2001-09-30 Thread sam adams

Congrats.

I dl your apps yesterday and they are very nice.  Thank you for writing
them.

Good luck with the CSSI.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Ole Drews Jensen
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 11:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CCNP now, Thank You! [7:21495]


Here's a thanks to all of you who directly and indirectly helped me pass my
CCNP exams. I passed CIT this morning as the last one.

The CIT exam was the one I felt best prepared for, but passed with a lower
score that any of the others. I felt that the questions were worded very
badly compared to the other exams, and I was asked questions about specific
details that I did not recall having read in any of my books. Anyway, I
passed - so I'm happy!

A little advise to those of you who are on the first step on the CCNP
ladder:

1) Read at least two books for each exam, unless you feel very sure you know
everything you need to. A good rule that I have used, is to get a study
guide with good reviews. You can search, find and check for those on
http://www.amazon.com. A study guide usually uses an easier language that
you can better understand if you're reading about the topic for the first
time. As a second book, I like to buy a CiscoPress course or exam book,
because they are more detail specific regarding what they want you to know
for the exam. I do not recommend CiscoPress course or exam books as the only
book unless you are good at reading and understanding technical
explanations. They can be a little hard to understand if you're not really
sure what they're trying to tell you.

2) Download the Cisco exams from Boson. Take all three test exams, and then
buy the full version of the one you score lowest in.

3) Look on the Internet for other good helping tools or descriptions. For
the CIT, I recommend using the Flash Cards that Priscilla has available
(http://www.priscilla.com), and for the BCMSN exam, I recommend my own
applications to help you train the commands on the Catalyst 5000 and
calculate Multicast layer 2 and 3 addresses. Those two applications can be
found by following my RouterChief link below.

Now on to CSS1 starting Monday or Tuesday when I expect the book to arrive.

Have a nice weekend,

Ole

~~~
 Ole Drews Jensen
 Systems Network Manager
 CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
 RWR Enterprises, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
~~~
 http://www.RouterChief.com
~~~
 NEED A JOB ???
 http://www.oledrews.com/job
~~~




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Re: CCNP now, Thank You! [7:21495]

2001-09-30 Thread mike

I can't agree with you more about the questions being worded badly.  I also
just finished the CIT exam  for my CCNP.  Every CCNP test I went into I felt
very confident and found myself during the test wondering where the hell did
they come up with some of these questions.  You have to be a laywer to
interpret some of them.  Although I did well on all of the tests an am glad
that I got the CCNP cert, I really don't feel like my knowledge of
networking was put to the test.  I hope the CCIE is more realistic.  Anyway,
congrats and good luck!

Mike
Ole Drews Jensen  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Here's a thanks to all of you who directly and indirectly helped me pass
my
 CCNP exams. I passed CIT this morning as the last one.

 The CIT exam was the one I felt best prepared for, but passed with a lower
 score that any of the others. I felt that the questions were worded very
 badly compared to the other exams, and I was asked questions about
specific
 details that I did not recall having read in any of my books. Anyway, I
 passed - so I'm happy!

 A little advise to those of you who are on the first step on the CCNP
 ladder:

 1) Read at least two books for each exam, unless you feel very sure you
know
 everything you need to. A good rule that I have used, is to get a study
 guide with good reviews. You can search, find and check for those on
 http://www.amazon.com. A study guide usually uses an easier language that
 you can better understand if you're reading about the topic for the first
 time. As a second book, I like to buy a CiscoPress course or exam book,
 because they are more detail specific regarding what they want you to know
 for the exam. I do not recommend CiscoPress course or exam books as the
only
 book unless you are good at reading and understanding technical
 explanations. They can be a little hard to understand if you're not really
 sure what they're trying to tell you.

 2) Download the Cisco exams from Boson. Take all three test exams, and
then
 buy the full version of the one you score lowest in.

 3) Look on the Internet for other good helping tools or descriptions. For
 the CIT, I recommend using the Flash Cards that Priscilla has available
 (http://www.priscilla.com), and for the BCMSN exam, I recommend my own
 applications to help you train the commands on the Catalyst 5000 and
 calculate Multicast layer 2 and 3 addresses. Those two applications can be
 found by following my RouterChief link below.

 Now on to CSS1 starting Monday or Tuesday when I expect the book to
arrive.

 Have a nice weekend,

 Ole

 ~~~
  Ole Drews Jensen
  Systems Network Manager
  CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ~~~
  http://www.RouterChief.com
 ~~~
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RE: CCNP now, Thank You! [7:21495]

2001-09-30 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

There must be a problem with me, because I didn't find anything on the CIT
exam to be poorly worded or difficult to understand.  Then again, I used to
work at a law firm so perhaps my background gives me an unfair advantage.
(-:

Previously I've expressed my opinion about the state of the CCNP exams.
That opinion holds true for CIT as well.  And that in itself is likely the
real reason why I didn't find any of the questions difficult to
understand...


  -- Leigh Anne (just Remote Access left...)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 mike
 Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 2:50 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: CCNP now, Thank You! [7:21495]


 I can't agree with you more about the questions being worded
 badly.  I also
 just finished the CIT exam  for my CCNP.  Every CCNP test I went
 into I felt
 very confident and found myself during the test wondering where
 the hell did
 they come up with some of these questions.  You have to be a laywer to
 interpret some of them.  Although I did well on all of the tests
 an am glad
 that I got the CCNP cert, I really don't feel like my knowledge of
 networking was put to the test.  I hope the CCIE is more
 realistic.  Anyway,
 congrats and good luck!

 Mike
 Ole Drews Jensen  wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Here's a thanks to all of you who directly and indirectly helped me pass
 my
  CCNP exams. I passed CIT this morning as the last one.
 
  The CIT exam was the one I felt best prepared for, but passed
 with a lower
  score that any of the others. I felt that the questions were worded very
  badly compared to the other exams, and I was asked questions about
 specific
  details that I did not recall having read in any of my books. Anyway, I
  passed - so I'm happy!
 
  A little advise to those of you who are on the first step on the CCNP
  ladder:
 
  1) Read at least two books for each exam, unless you feel very sure you
 know
  everything you need to. A good rule that I have used, is to get a study
  guide with good reviews. You can search, find and check for those on
  http://www.amazon.com. A study guide usually uses an easier
 language that
  you can better understand if you're reading about the topic for
 the first
  time. As a second book, I like to buy a CiscoPress course or exam book,
  because they are more detail specific regarding what they want
 you to know
  for the exam. I do not recommend CiscoPress course or exam books as the
 only
  book unless you are good at reading and understanding technical
  explanations. They can be a little hard to understand if you're
 not really
  sure what they're trying to tell you.
 
  2) Download the Cisco exams from Boson. Take all three test exams, and
 then
  buy the full version of the one you score lowest in.
 
  3) Look on the Internet for other good helping tools or
 descriptions. For
  the CIT, I recommend using the Flash Cards that Priscilla has available
  (http://www.priscilla.com), and for the BCMSN exam, I recommend my own
  applications to help you train the commands on the Catalyst 5000 and
  calculate Multicast layer 2 and 3 addresses. Those two
 applications can be
  found by following my RouterChief link below.
 
  Now on to CSS1 starting Monday or Tuesday when I expect the book to
 arrive.
 
  Have a nice weekend,
 
  Ole
 
  ~~~
   Ole Drews Jensen
   Systems Network Manager
   CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
   RWR Enterprises, Inc.
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: CCNP now, Thank You! [7:21495]

2001-09-30 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi all,

I have made a complaint about wording of questions during each Cisco exam I
completed.

There are some subtle differences in different flavours of English that can
create confusion.  I would imagine this would even be worse when the
questions are translated into other languages.

Just a thought

Teunis,
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia


On Sunday, September 30, 2001 at 06:28:13 PM, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:

 There must be a problem with me, because I didn't find anything on the CIT
 exam to be poorly worded or difficult to understand.  Then again, I used to
 work at a law firm so perhaps my background gives me an unfair advantage.
 (-:
 
 Previously I've expressed my opinion about the state of the CCNP exams.
 That opinion holds true for CIT as well.  And that in itself is likely the
 real reason why I didn't find any of the questions difficult to
 understand...
 
 
   -- Leigh Anne (just Remote Access left...)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  mike
  Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 2:50 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: CCNP now, Thank You! [7:21495]
 
 
  I can't agree with you more about the questions being worded
  badly.  I also
  just finished the CIT exam  for my CCNP.  Every CCNP test I went
  into I felt
  very confident and found myself during the test wondering where
  the hell did
  they come up with some of these questions.  You have to be a laywer to
  interpret some of them.  Although I did well on all of the tests
  an am glad
  that I got the CCNP cert, I really don't feel like my knowledge of
  networking was put to the test.  I hope the CCIE is more
  realistic.  Anyway,
  congrats and good luck!
 
  Mike
  Ole Drews Jensen  wrote in message
  news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Here's a thanks to all of you who directly and indirectly helped me
pass
  my
   CCNP exams. I passed CIT this morning as the last one.
  
   The CIT exam was the one I felt best prepared for, but passed
  with a lower
   score that any of the others. I felt that the questions were worded
very
   badly compared to the other exams, and I was asked questions about
  specific
   details that I did not recall having read in any of my books. Anyway, I
   passed - so I'm happy!
  
   A little advise to those of you who are on the first step on the CCNP
   ladder:
  
   1) Read at least two books for each exam, unless you feel very sure you
  know
   everything you need to. A good rule that I have used, is to get a study
   guide with good reviews. You can search, find and check for those on
   http://www.amazon.com. A study guide usually uses an easier
  language that
   you can better understand if you're reading about the topic for
  the first
   time. As a second book, I like to buy a CiscoPress course or exam book,
   because they are more detail specific regarding what they want
  you to know
   for the exam. I do not recommend CiscoPress course or exam books as the
  only
   book unless you are good at reading and understanding technical
   explanations. They can be a little hard to understand if you're
  not really
   sure what they're trying to tell you.
  
   2) Download the Cisco exams from Boson. Take all three test exams, and
  then
   buy the full version of the one you score lowest in.
  
   3) Look on the Internet for other good helping tools or
  descriptions. For
   the CIT, I recommend using the Flash Cards that Priscilla has available
   (http://www.priscilla.com), and for the BCMSN exam, I recommend my own
   applications to help you train the commands on the Catalyst 5000 and
   calculate Multicast layer 2 and 3 addresses. Those two
  applications can be
   found by following my RouterChief link below.
  
   Now on to CSS1 starting Monday or Tuesday when I expect the book to
  arrive.
  
   Have a nice weekend,
  
   Ole
  
   ~~~
Ole Drews Jensen
Systems Network Manager
CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
RWR Enterprises, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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