Re: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide
I hereby rise in defense of Brad...just cos a guy wants to make extra money does not make him a bad guy. Having defended him so heartily, you guys should please check ot www.nantech.com, we now have ATM equipment Nnanna - Original Message - From: "Sam Adams" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 11:39 PM Subject: RE: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide I think the easiest way to find out if he contributed to the list is to search the archive. I did and Brad has contributed... Nuff said. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 9:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide RingLord, I just realized I didnt answer all your questions... Post anything useful? Uh, yeah, actually I have, check out my website for a great deal on routers (www.optsys.net) :)Have you ever posted anything at all besides this post of yours? Am I affiliated (sp) with CCBootCamp? Yup, sure am! I thought they are AWESOME since I used them to pass my CCIE LAB, so why not get involved with a good thing??? This list is about certifications and studying. What's a better way to study than with terrific labs and a rack of your own??? Did I mention, that's what I did to get my CCIE? Meaningful goal in life: Help others pass their CCIE. I know it was a nightmare for me, so Im just trying to make it easier on the people that subscribe to this list. What's wrong with that? Does that help? Let me know if you have anymore questions. If you need a kit for your CCNA, Im sure I can help you out. Thanks! -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 ""RingLord"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Tell me Brad do you ever post anything useful to the group or are you just into advertising your company? Are you affiliatated with CCIE BootCamp? I thought this list was about certification and studying. You working towards a meaningful goal in life. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 10:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide if you're taking the exam in (4) weeks and you plan on using that this late in the game, FORGET it! Go and buy Marc Russell's labs (www.ccbootcamp.com). That's what I used to pass the CCIE exam!!! The All-in-one Lab Study Guide is great for a starting point (3-6 months prior to the lab exam). After that, you need some REAL labs! -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 "kikpasa" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, I have read a few suggestions about using the "Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide" for the BSCN exam, for hands on lad practice, is it true, and if that is the case, there someone out the that has a second hand copy for sale (in good shape), the problem is that Amazon.co.uk can only ship between 2 - 5 weeks time, and I intend sitting the exam in 4 weeks time. Cheers Kerry ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Usually I just ignore flame wars but my two cents: please remove "RingLord" from the list. Original Message From: "RingLord" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tell me Brad do you ever post anything useful to the group or are you just into advertising your company? Are you affiliatated with CCIE BootCamp? I thought this list was about certification and studying. You working towards a meaningful goal in life. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 10:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide if you're taking the exam in (4) weeks and you plan on using that this late in the game, FORGET it! Go and buy Marc Russell's labs (www.ccbootcamp.com). That's what I used to pass the CCIE exam!!! The All-in-one Lab Study Guide is great for a starting point (3-6 months prior to the lab exam). After that, you need some REAL labs! -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 "kikpasa" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, I have read a few suggestions about using the "Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide" for the BSCN exam, for hands on lad practice, is it true, and if that is the case, there someone out the that has a second hand copy for sale (in good shape), the problem is that Amazon.co.uk can only ship between 2 - 5 weeks time, and I intend sitting the exam in 4 weeks time. Cheers Kerry ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide
In Brad's defense, he's helped me with a couple problems. A lot of CCIE's don't bother helping other people after they cross over to CCIE land. He's still on the list helping others, in addition to selling stuff. If I had a way to help other people learn Cisco and also make money, I'd do it. Chuck Church CCNP, MCNE, MCSE start.sales.pitch P.S. Check out Syngress' new Switching exam book coming out in a month or two. I heard that chapter 9 was real good! P.P.S. I wrote chapter nine :) end.sales.pitch Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 21:16:20 -0400 From: "RingLord" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide Tell me Brad do you ever post anything useful to the group or are you just into advertising your company? Are you affiliatated with CCIE BootCamp? I thought this list was about certification and studying. You working towards a meaningful goal in life. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide
I think the easiest way to find out if he contributed to the list is to search the archive. I did and Brad has contributed... Nuff said. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 9:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide RingLord, I just realized I didnt answer all your questions... Post anything useful? Uh, yeah, actually I have, check out my website for a great deal on routers (www.optsys.net) :)Have you ever posted anything at all besides this post of yours? Am I affiliated (sp) with CCBootCamp? Yup, sure am! I thought they are AWESOME since I used them to pass my CCIE LAB, so why not get involved with a good thing??? This list is about certifications and studying. What's a better way to study than with terrific labs and a rack of your own??? Did I mention, that's what I did to get my CCIE? Meaningful goal in life: Help others pass their CCIE. I know it was a nightmare for me, so Im just trying to make it easier on the people that subscribe to this list. What's wrong with that? Does that help? Let me know if you have anymore questions. If you need a kit for your CCNA, Im sure I can help you out. Thanks! -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 ""RingLord"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Tell me Brad do you ever post anything useful to the group or are you just into advertising your company? Are you affiliatated with CCIE BootCamp? I thought this list was about certification and studying. You working towards a meaningful goal in life. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 10:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide if you're taking the exam in (4) weeks and you plan on using that this late in the game, FORGET it! Go and buy Marc Russell's labs (www.ccbootcamp.com). That's what I used to pass the CCIE exam!!! The All-in-one Lab Study Guide is great for a starting point (3-6 months prior to the lab exam). After that, you need some REAL labs! -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 "kikpasa" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, I have read a few suggestions about using the "Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide" for the BSCN exam, for hands on lad practice, is it true, and if that is the case, there someone out the that has a second hand copy for sale (in good shape), the problem is that Amazon.co.uk can only ship between 2 - 5 weeks time, and I intend sitting the exam in 4 weeks time. Cheers Kerry ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide
Tell me Brad do you ever post anything useful to the group or are you just into advertising your company? Are you affiliatated with CCIE BootCamp? I thought this list was about certification and studying. You working towards a meaningful goal in life. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 10:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide if you're taking the exam in (4) weeks and you plan on using that this late in the game, FORGET it! Go and buy Marc Russell's labs (www.ccbootcamp.com). That's what I used to pass the CCIE exam!!! The All-in-one Lab Study Guide is great for a starting point (3-6 months prior to the lab exam). After that, you need some REAL labs! -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 "kikpasa" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, I have read a few suggestions about using the "Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide" for the BSCN exam, for hands on lad practice, is it true, and if that is the case, there someone out the that has a second hand copy for sale (in good shape), the problem is that Amazon.co.uk can only ship between 2 - 5 weeks time, and I intend sitting the exam in 4 weeks time. Cheers Kerry ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide
Naw, this list is about how many questions are on the test and what's the passing score. :- Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of RingLord Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 6:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide Tell me Brad do you ever post anything useful to the group or are you just into advertising your company? Are you affiliatated with CCIE BootCamp? I thought this list was about certification and studying. You working towards a meaningful goal in life. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 10:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide if you're taking the exam in (4) weeks and you plan on using that this late in the game, FORGET it! Go and buy Marc Russell's labs (www.ccbootcamp.com). That's what I used to pass the CCIE exam!!! The All-in-one Lab Study Guide is great for a starting point (3-6 months prior to the lab exam). After that, you need some REAL labs! -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 "kikpasa" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, I have read a few suggestions about using the "Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide" for the BSCN exam, for hands on lad practice, is it true, and if that is the case, there someone out the that has a second hand copy for sale (in good shape), the problem is that Amazon.co.uk can only ship between 2 - 5 weeks time, and I intend sitting the exam in 4 weeks time. Cheers Kerry ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide
Well, considering Ive sold lab kits to about 8-10 people on this list and they have been extremely satisfied, I'd have to say yes...yourself -B - Original Message - From: "RingLord" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 9:16 PM Subject: RE: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide Tell me Brad do you ever post anything useful to the group or are you just into advertising your company? Are you affiliatated with CCIE BootCamp? I thought this list was about certification and studying. You working towards a meaningful goal in life. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 10:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide if you're taking the exam in (4) weeks and you plan on using that this late in the game, FORGET it! Go and buy Marc Russell's labs (www.ccbootcamp.com). That's what I used to pass the CCIE exam!!! The All-in-one Lab Study Guide is great for a starting point (3-6 months prior to the lab exam). After that, you need some REAL labs! -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 "kikpasa" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, I have read a few suggestions about using the "Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide" for the BSCN exam, for hands on lad practice, is it true, and if that is the case, there someone out the that has a second hand copy for sale (in good shape), the problem is that Amazon.co.uk can only ship between 2 - 5 weeks time, and I intend sitting the exam in 4 weeks time. Cheers Kerry ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide
RingLord, I just realized I didnt answer all your questions... Post anything useful? Uh, yeah, actually I have, check out my website for a great deal on routers (www.optsys.net) :)Have you ever posted anything at all besides this post of yours? Am I affiliated (sp) with CCBootCamp? Yup, sure am! I thought they are AWESOME since I used them to pass my CCIE LAB, so why not get involved with a good thing??? This list is about certifications and studying. What's a better way to study than with terrific labs and a rack of your own??? Did I mention, that's what I did to get my CCIE? Meaningful goal in life: Help others pass their CCIE. I know it was a nightmare for me, so Im just trying to make it easier on the people that subscribe to this list. What's wrong with that? Does that help? Let me know if you have anymore questions. If you need a kit for your CCNA, Im sure I can help you out. Thanks! -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 ""RingLord"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Tell me Brad do you ever post anything useful to the group or are you just into advertising your company? Are you affiliatated with CCIE BootCamp? I thought this list was about certification and studying. You working towards a meaningful goal in life. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 10:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide if you're taking the exam in (4) weeks and you plan on using that this late in the game, FORGET it! Go and buy Marc Russell's labs (www.ccbootcamp.com). That's what I used to pass the CCIE exam!!! The All-in-one Lab Study Guide is great for a starting point (3-6 months prior to the lab exam). After that, you need some REAL labs! -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 "kikpasa" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, I have read a few suggestions about using the "Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide" for the BSCN exam, for hands on lad practice, is it true, and if that is the case, there someone out the that has a second hand copy for sale (in good shape), the problem is that Amazon.co.uk can only ship between 2 - 5 weeks time, and I intend sitting the exam in 4 weeks time. Cheers Kerry ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide
Hi I will be sitting the routing 2.0 exam soon too. I have the book and yes the BGP labs are well worth doing. However, the previous post has lots of value... do not limit your self to the labs in the book. Once you done them, go to the Cisco site and lookup BGP and go thru each command in a lab, the more the better. $0.02 -- John Hardman, MCSE+I, CCNA ArrisTech/CCS-IS SysAdmin "kikpasa" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I am not taking the CCIE, but the BSCN - Routing exam, and I hear the bgp hands on in the book is worth looking at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you're taking the exam in (4) weeks and you plan on using that this late in the game, FORGET it! Go and buy Marc Russell's labs (www.ccbootcamp.com). That's what I used to pass the CCIE exam!!! The All-in-one Lab Study Guide is great for a starting point (3-6 months prior to the lab exam). After that, you need some REAL labs! -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 "kikpasa" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, I have read a few suggestions about using the "Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide" for the BSCN exam, for hands on lad practice, is it true, and if that is the case, there someone out the that has a second hand copy for sale (in good shape), the problem is that Amazon.co.uk can only ship between 2 - 5 weeks time, and I intend sitting the exam in 4 weeks time. Cheers Kerry ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
