RE: DELL
I thought that this board was specifically targeting all things Cisco? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 12:33 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: DELL > > > Positions for which I am currently sourcing: > > 2 More H/A Mission Critical admins w experience in a true 24/7 Mission > Critical environment (examples would be airlines networks, banks, or heavy > traffic e-commerce ebay, aol or equivalent) > NT with former Unix highly desireable > > Network Admins .COM= experience in supporting start-up ventures. I don't > have a lot of details regarding this one-I will tomorrow-but I'm > extrapolating that we are looking for admins that have experience scaling > networks with growth and keping them highly avail. > > > Network Operating Specialists= well heeled admins that understand > raid,connectivity and know NT or Novell well. > The above positions are all Austin based. > > And if you have pals that are : > > OEM or VAR Sales with analogous experience to what Dell does, are at an AE > or MAM level and have excellent rapport with: FED, K-12, HIGHER > ED or STATE > & LOCAL have them contact me. > The sales positions are home based-offices in many different cities in the > US. > > Best, > > > Clark Westerman > DELL Staffing, Public, Americas and International > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ > To unsubscribe from the Jobs list, send a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body containing: > unsubscribe jobs > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DELL
totally unrelated, im sorry but in my book novell and NT are not NETWORKS, nor are they NEtworking positions. its system. i do like the idea that job offers can be sent out to the list, thats pretty cool. > -Message d'origine- > De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Date: mardi 23 mai 2000 19:33 > À:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Objet:DELL > > Positions for which I am currently sourcing: > > 2 More H/A Mission Critical admins w experience in a true 24/7 Mission > Critical environment (examples would be airlines networks, banks, or heavy > traffic e-commerce ebay, aol or equivalent) > NT with former Unix highly desireable > > Network Admins .COM= experience in supporting start-up ventures. I don't > have a lot of details regarding this one-I will tomorrow-but I'm > extrapolating that we are looking for admins that have experience scaling > networks with growth and keping them highly avail. > > > Network Operating Specialists= well heeled admins that understand > raid,connectivity and know NT or Novell well. > The above positions are all Austin based. > > And if you have pals that are : > > OEM or VAR Sales with analogous experience to what Dell does, are at an AE > or MAM level and have excellent rapport with: FED, K-12, HIGHER ED or > STATE > & LOCAL have them contact me. > The sales positions are home based-offices in many different cities in the > US. > > Best, > > > Clark Westerman > DELL Staffing, Public, Americas and International > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DELL
We are aware NT and Novell are not networks-that they are operating systems to facilitate utilization of particular systems that are networked together. Most everyone understands job titles are hacked, cobbled and abbreviated...Network Systems Admin, Systems Admin, with the billions of acronyms floating about I'm sure we will disagree on the best usage of all-but at the end of the day...where does this issue stand in relative importance? Clark -Original Message- From: Dollard Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 2:59 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: DELL totally unrelated, im sorry but in my book novell and NT are not NETWORKS, nor are they NEtworking positions. its system. i do like the idea that job offers can be sent out to the list, thats pretty cool. > -Message d'origine- > De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Date: mardi 23 mai 2000 19:33 > À:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Objet:DELL > > Positions for which I am currently sourcing: > > 2 More H/A Mission Critical admins w experience in a true 24/7 Mission > Critical environment (examples would be airlines networks, banks, or heavy > traffic e-commerce ebay, aol or equivalent) > NT with former Unix highly desireable > > Network Admins .COM= experience in supporting start-up ventures. I don't > have a lot of details regarding this one-I will tomorrow-but I'm > extrapolating that we are looking for admins that have experience scaling > networks with growth and keping them highly avail. > > > Network Operating Specialists= well heeled admins that understand > raid,connectivity and know NT or Novell well. > The above positions are all Austin based. > > And if you have pals that are : > > OEM or VAR Sales with analogous experience to what Dell does, are at an AE > or MAM level and have excellent rapport with: FED, K-12, HIGHER ED or > STATE > & LOCAL have them contact me. > The sales positions are home based-offices in many different cities in the > US. > > Best, > > > Clark Westerman > DELL Staffing, Public, Americas and International > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe from the Jobs list, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body containing: unsubscribe jobs ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DELL
The job titles have little importance, but I don't see anywhere in your job description where the word "Cisco" shows up. So, unless the positions you offer have anything to do with the subject of this mailing list... please go spam elsewhere. >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: DELL >Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 08:23:15 -0500 > >We are aware NT and Novell are not networks-that they are operating systems >to facilitate utilization of particular systems that are networked >together. >Most everyone understands job titles are hacked, cobbled and >abbreviated...Network Systems Admin, Systems Admin, with the billions of >acronyms floating about I'm sure we will disagree on the best usage of >all-but at the end of the day...where does this issue stand in relative >importance? > >Clark > >-Original Message- >From: Dollard Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 2:59 AM >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: DELL > > >totally unrelated, im sorry but in my book novell and NT are not NETWORKS, >nor are they NEtworking positions. its system. i do like the idea that job >offers can be sent out to the list, thats pretty cool. > > > > -Message d'origine- > > De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Date: mardi 23 mai 2000 19:33 > > À: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Objet: DELL > > > > Positions for which I am currently sourcing: > > > > 2 More H/A Mission Critical admins w experience in a true 24/7 Mission > > Critical environment (examples would be airlines networks, banks, or >heavy > > traffic e-commerce ebay, aol or equivalent) > > NT with former Unix highly desireable > > > > Network Admins .COM= experience in supporting start-up ventures. I don't > > have a lot of details regarding this one-I will tomorrow-but I'm > > extrapolating that we are looking for admins that have experience >scaling > > networks with growth and keping them highly avail. > > > > > > Network Operating Specialists= well heeled admins that understand > > raid,connectivity and know NT or Novell well. > > The above positions are all Austin based. > > > > And if you have pals that are : > > > > OEM or VAR Sales with analogous experience to what Dell does, are at an >AE > > or MAM level and have excellent rapport with: FED, K-12, HIGHER ED or > > STATE > > & LOCAL have them contact me. > > The sales positions are home based-offices in many different cities in >the > > US. > > > > Best, > > > > > > Clark Westerman > > DELL Staffing, Public, Americas and International > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >___ >To unsubscribe from the Jobs list, send a message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body containing: >unsubscribe jobs >___ >To unsubscribe from the Jobs list, send a message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body containing: >unsubscribe jobs Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DELL
Clark, Thanks for bringing some interesting opportunities to the list. Come again. Michael, Do you know something negative about these jobs or this recruiter that you are not telling us? Have you already corresponded with Clark to verify that these jobs do not involve Cisco or internetworking? If you are just being rude because Clark is not offering anything that works for you today, then I would suggest your Delete button will do the job with less fuss. Dave > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Cisco God > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 6:47 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: DELL > > > The job titles have little importance, but I don't see anywhere > in your job > description where the word "Cisco" shows up. So, unless the positions you > offer have anything to do with the subject of this mailing > list... please go > spam elsewhere. > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: DELL > >Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 08:23:15 -0500 > > > >We are aware NT and Novell are not networks-that they are > operating systems > >to facilitate utilization of particular systems that are networked > >together. > >Most everyone understands job titles are hacked, cobbled and > >abbreviated...Network Systems Admin, Systems Admin, with the billions of > >acronyms floating about I'm sure we will disagree on the best usage of > >all-but at the end of the day...where does this issue stand in relative > >importance? > > > >Clark > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Dollard Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 2:59 AM > >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: DELL > > > > > >totally unrelated, im sorry but in my book novell and NT are not > NETWORKS, > >nor are they NEtworking positions. its system. i do like the > idea that job > >offers can be sent out to the list, thats pretty cool. > > > > > > > -Message d'origine- > > > De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Date: mardi 23 mai 2000 19:33 > > > À:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Objet:DELL > > > > > > Positions for which I am currently sourcing: > > > > > > 2 More H/A Mission Critical admins w experience in a true 24/7 Mission > > > Critical environment (examples would be airlines networks, banks, or > >heavy > > > traffic e-commerce ebay, aol or equivalent) > > > NT with former Unix highly desireable > > > > > > Network Admins .COM= experience in supporting start-up > ventures. I don't > > > have a lot of details regarding this one-I will tomorrow-but I'm > > > extrapolating that we are looking for admins that have experience > >scaling > > > networks with growth and keping them highly avail. > > > > > > > > > Network Operating Specialists= well heeled admins that understand > > > raid,connectivity and know NT or Novell well. > > > The above positions are all Austin based. > > > > > > And if you have pals that are : > > > > > > OEM or VAR Sales with analogous experience to what Dell does, > are at an > >AE > > > or MAM level and have excellent rapport with: FED, K-12, HIGHER ED or > > > STATE > > > & LOCAL have them contact me. > > > The sales positions are home based-offices in many different > cities in > >the > > > US. > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > Clark Westerman > > > DELL Staffing, Public, Americas and International > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ > >To unsubscribe from the Jobs list, send a message to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body containing: > >unsubscribe jobs > >___ > >To unsubscribe from the Jobs list, send a message to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body containing: > >unsubscribe jobs > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > ___ > To unsubscribe from the Jobs list, send a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body containing: > unsubscribe jobs > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DELL
Why do you have to be so stupid. You have made some idiotic assumptions about this posting. This is a jobs list and someone is posting a job in a related field and you are so high and mighty to assume this has nothing to do with Cisco?? I am so tired of lame people like you in these lists. I have been on this list for a few months now and have seen few real job postings from anyone. Now someone actually puts up real jobs and you, Mr. "Cisco God" surely would never need to look for a job. Or are you just some flake who has nothing better to do but defame and stifle progress. Clark from Dell at least has a real email address, not some, "I'm going to get a hotmail address and call myself a Cisco God even though I don't know a darn thing about Cisco routers" email address. I would much rather see actual job postings as spam than your idiotic replies. See, I have a real email address. Don't you Mr./Mrs./Miss Cisco God? Some of us people in the real workforce aren't Cisco-only centric. Are you? That's too bad. Scott M. www.scott.mcelhaney.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cisco God Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 4:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: DELL The job titles have little importance, but I don't see anywhere in your job description where the word "Cisco" shows up. So, unless the positions you offer have anything to do with the subject of this mailing list... please go spam elsewhere. >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: DELL >Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 08:23:15 -0500 > >We are aware NT and Novell are not networks-that they are operating systems >to facilitate utilization of particular systems that are networked >together. >Most everyone understands job titles are hacked, cobbled and >abbreviated...Network Systems Admin, Systems Admin, with the billions of >acronyms floating about I'm sure we will disagree on the best usage of >all-but at the end of the day...where does this issue stand in relative >importance? > >Clark > >-Original Message- >From: Dollard Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 2:59 AM >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: DELL > > >totally unrelated, im sorry but in my book novell and NT are not NETWORKS, >nor are they NEtworking positions. its system. i do like the idea that job >offers can be sent out to the list, thats pretty cool. > > > > -Message d'origine- > > De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Date: mardi 23 mai 2000 19:33 > > À: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Objet: DELL > > > > Positions for which I am currently sourcing: > > > > 2 More H/A Mission Critical admins w experience in a true 24/7 Mission > > Critical environment (examples would be airlines networks, banks, or >heavy > > traffic e-commerce ebay, aol or equivalent) > > NT with former Unix highly desireable > > > > Network Admins .COM= experience in supporting start-up ventures. I don't > > have a lot of details regarding this one-I will tomorrow-but I'm > > extrapolating that we are looking for admins that have experience >scaling > > networks with growth and keping them highly avail. > > > > > > Network Operating Specialists= well heeled admins that understand > > raid,connectivity and know NT or Novell well. > > The above positions are all Austin based. > > > > And if you have pals that are : > > > > OEM or VAR Sales with analogous experience to what Dell does, are at an >AE > > or MAM level and have excellent rapport with: FED, K-12, HIGHER ED or > > STATE > > & LOCAL have them contact me. > > The sales positions are home based-offices in many different cities in >the > > US. > > > > Best, > > > > > > Clark Westerman > > DELL Staffing, Public, Americas and International > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >___ >To unsubscribe from the Jobs list, send a message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body containing: >unsubscrib
RE: DELL
On Wed, 24 May 2000, McElhaney, Scott wrote: > Why do you have to be so stupid. You have made some idiotic assumptions > about this posting. This is a jobs list and someone is posting a job in a > related field and you are so high and mighty to assume this has nothing to > do with Cisco?? Which list? Please note that this is cross-posted to both the cisco groupstudy list and the jobs list. So, for at least one of the mentioned lists, it is most certainly _not_ a "jobs list". The jobs list was created to keep the noise level on the study list down, and cross-posting to both not only defeats that purpose but demonstrates rudeness and/or cluelessness on the part of the cross-poster. > I am so tired of lame people like you in these lists. I have > been on this list for a few months now and have seen few real job postings > from anyone. Now someone actually puts up real jobs and you, Mr. "Cisco God" > surely would never need to look for a job. If he does, he'll probably have enough clue to look on the jobs list, where this thread should have been contained. And, if he is truly clueful, he probably wouldn't want to work for an outfit that is too lazy, and/or rude, and/or stupid to advertise their jobs in the correct place. Would YOU want a technical job with a company whose recruiters can't follow simple directions and have no common courtesy? "Now hiring system admins! Want fries with that, dood?" -- Jay Hennigan - Network Administration - [EMAIL PROTECTED] NetLojix Communications, Inc. NASDAQ: NETX - http://www.netlojix.com/ WestNet: Connecting you to the planet. 805 884-6323 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DELL
gotta agree with Jay on this one. Not folowing instructions, and not reading someone's CV before an interview ranks the same in my book. Clark, on the other hand your welcome to post the jobs in the jobs mailing list, cisco god, im sure you have an attitude problem. a cisco god wouldnt even use such a nick, it's called humility, and they would also post with their CCIE number right next to their name. Until the day you manage to provide those 4 numbers with your name, LEARN SOME HUMILITY. can i get the fries with that dood? Morgan Dollard > -Message d'origine- > De: Jay Hennigan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Date: jeudi 25 mai 2000 04:45 > À:McElhaney, Scott > Cc: 'Cisco God'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; > '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Objet:RE: DELL > > On Wed, 24 May 2000, McElhaney, Scott wrote: > > > Why do you have to be so stupid. You have made some idiotic assumptions > > about this posting. This is a jobs list and someone is posting a job in > a > > related field and you are so high and mighty to assume this has nothing > to > > do with Cisco?? > > Which list? Please note that this is cross-posted to both the > cisco groupstudy list and the jobs list. So, for at least one > of the mentioned lists, it is most certainly _not_ a "jobs list". > > The jobs list was created to keep the noise level on the study list down, > and cross-posting to both not only defeats that purpose but demonstrates > rudeness and/or cluelessness on the part of the cross-poster. > > > I am so tired of lame people like you in these lists. I have > > been on this list for a few months now and have seen few real job > postings > > from anyone. Now someone actually puts up real jobs and you, Mr. "Cisco > God" > > surely would never need to look for a job. > > If he does, he'll probably have enough clue to look on the jobs list, > where this thread should have been contained. And, if he is truly > clueful, he probably wouldn't want to work for an outfit that is too > lazy, and/or rude, and/or stupid to advertise their jobs in the correct > place. Would YOU want a technical job with a company whose recruiters > can't follow simple directions and have no common courtesy? "Now hiring > system admins! Want fries with that, dood?" > > -- > Jay Hennigan - Network Administration - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > NetLojix Communications, Inc. NASDAQ: NETX - http://www.netlojix.com/ > WestNet: Connecting you to the planet. 805 884-6323 > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DELL
Thank you Clark for posting here. It makes sense to stick your pole where the fish are. >From: "Dave Swink" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Dave Swink" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Cisco God" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: DELL >Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 17:48:59 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [208.242.122.8] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBAF5BDEC0053D820F3EDD0F27A085BFC0; Wed May 24 17:25:20 2000 >Received: from localhost (mail@localhost)by groupstudy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) >with SMTP id UAA04260;Wed, 24 May 2000 20:19:20 -0400 >Received: by groupstudy.com (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 24 May 2000 20:19:16 >-0400 >Received: (from listserver@localhost)by groupstudy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id >UAA04214GroupStudy Mailer; Wed, 24 May 2000 20:19:12 -0400 >Received: from ecpi.com (ns1.ecpi.com [216.141.24.3])by groupstudy.com >(8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA04176;Wed, 24 May 2000 20:19:06 -0400 >Received: from xxx (pm3-A-4.ecpi.com [216.141.25.80])by ecpi.com >(8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA01160;Wed, 24 May 2000 19:16:46 -0500 (CDT) >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed May 24 17:29:08 2000 >Message-ID: <002101bfc5d2$3fca74a0$50198dd8@xxx> >X-Priority: 3 (Normal) >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 >Importance: Normal >In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by groupstudy.com id >UAA04260 > >Clark, >Thanks for bringing some interesting opportunities to the list. Come >again. > >Michael, >Do you know something negative about these jobs or this recruiter that you >are not telling us? Have you already corresponded with Clark to verify >that >these jobs do not involve Cisco or internetworking? If you are just being >rude because Clark is not offering anything that works for you today, then >I >would suggest your Delete button will do the job with less fuss. > >Dave > > > -Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Cisco God > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 6:47 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: DELL > > > > > > The job titles have little importance, but I don't see anywhere > > in your job > > description where the word "Cisco" shows up. So, unless the positions >you > > offer have anything to do with the subject of this mailing > > list... please go > > spam elsewhere. > > > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: RE: DELL > > >Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 08:23:15 -0500 > > > > > >We are aware NT and Novell are not networks-that they are > > operating systems > > >to facilitate utilization of particular systems that are networked > > >together. > > >Most everyone understands job titles are hacked, cobbled and > > >abbreviated...Network Systems Admin, Systems Admin, with the billions >of > > >acronyms floating about I'm sure we will disagree on the best usage of > > >all-but at the end of the day...where does this issue stand in relative > > >importance? > > > > > >Clark > > > > > >-Original Message- > > >From: Dollard Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > >Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 2:59 AM > > >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: RE: DELL > > > > > > > > >totally unrelated, im sorry but in my book novell and NT are not > > NETWORKS, > > >nor are they NEtworking positions. its system. i do like the > > idea that job > > >offers can be sent out to the list, thats pretty cool. > > > > > > > > > > -Message d'origine- > > > > De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Date: mardi 23 mai 2000 19:33 > > > > À: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Objet: DELL > > > > > > > > Positions for which I am currently sourcing: > > > > > > > > 2 More H/A Mission Critical admins w experience in a true 24/7 >Mission > > >
RE: DELL
I don't assume anything about the job that is not stated in the recruiter's email. His email mentioned NT, Unix, and Novell. And despite the fact the he thinks job titles are hacked and cobbled together, unless his job descriptions are hacked and cobbled too, I would hope they have mention of Cisco somewhere. I realize you might not be Cisco-centric and that you would like to see all types of jobs, perhaps it would be best for you to browse over to monster.com or headhunter.net. This happens to be a Cisco-centric mailing list and we should at least make an attempt to keep it like that. It's not my fault if you don't think there are enough Cisco jobs getting posted on here, but that does not make it okay to start posting whatever we want. As far as me defaming and stifling, I'm not the one that makes assumptions about "real" email addresses. What does my hotmail account have anything to do with the conversation. What is ea.com? And I'm also not the one calling people "stupid" and "idiotic". Leave the kiddy name calling at home and perhaps you won't have to be looking so hard for a job. >From: "McElhaney, Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "McElhaney, Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'Cisco God'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >"'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >"'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >"'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: DELL >Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 17:30:14 -0700 > >Why do you have to be so stupid. You have made some idiotic assumptions >about this posting. This is a jobs list and someone is posting a job in a >related field and you are so high and mighty to assume this has nothing to >do with Cisco?? I am so tired of lame people like you in these lists. I >have >been on this list for a few months now and have seen few real job postings >from anyone. Now someone actually puts up real jobs and you, Mr. "Cisco >God" >surely would never need to look for a job. Or are you just some flake who >has nothing better to do but defame and stifle progress. Clark from Dell at >least has a real email address, not some, "I'm going to get a hotmail >address and call myself a Cisco God even though I don't know a darn thing >about Cisco routers" email address. I would much rather see actual job >postings as spam than your idiotic replies. See, I have a real email >address. Don't you Mr./Mrs./Miss Cisco God? Some of us people in the real >workforce aren't Cisco-only centric. Are you? That's too bad. > > Scott M. >www.scott.mcelhaney.com > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Cisco God >Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 4:47 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: DELL > > >The job titles have little importance, but I don't see anywhere in your job >description where the word "Cisco" shows up. So, unless the positions you >offer have anything to do with the subject of this mailing list... please >go > >spam elsewhere. > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: DELL > >Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 08:23:15 -0500 > > > >We are aware NT and Novell are not networks-that they are operating >systems > >to facilitate utilization of particular systems that are networked > >together. > >Most everyone understands job titles are hacked, cobbled and > >abbreviated...Network Systems Admin, Systems Admin, with the billions of > >acronyms floating about I'm sure we will disagree on the best usage of > >all-but at the end of the day...where does this issue stand in relative > >importance? > > > >Clark > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Dollard Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 2:59 AM > >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: DELL > > > > > >totally unrelated, im sorry but in my book novell and NT are not >NETWORKS, > >nor are they NEtworking positions. its system. i do like the idea that >job > >offers can be sent out to the list, thats pretty cool. > > > > > > > -Message d'origine- > > &
RE: DELL
I personally would prefer not to have my inbox cluttered with flame wars, Cisco-centric or not. Please reply to each other directly and refrain from these postings to the group. > -Original Message- > From: Cisco God [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 3:33 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: DELL > > I don't assume anything about the job that is not stated in the > recruiter's email. His email mentioned NT, Unix, and Novell. And despite > the > fact the he thinks job titles are hacked and cobbled together, unless his > job descriptions are hacked and cobbled too, I would hope they have > mention > of Cisco somewhere. I realize you might not be Cisco-centric and that you > would like to see all types of jobs, perhaps it would be best for you to > browse over to monster.com or headhunter.net. This happens to be a > Cisco-centric mailing list and we should at least make an attempt to keep > it > like that. It's not my fault if you don't think there are enough Cisco > jobs > getting posted on here, but that does not make it okay to start posting > whatever we want. > As far as me defaming and stifling, I'm not the one that makes > assumptions about "real" email addresses. What does my hotmail account > have > anything to do with the conversation. What is ea.com? And I'm also not the > > one calling people "stupid" and "idiotic". Leave the kiddy name calling at > > home and perhaps you won't have to be looking so hard for a job. > > >From: "McElhaney, Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "McElhaney, Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "'Cisco God'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > >"'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > >"'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > >"'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >CC: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: DELL > >Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 17:30:14 -0700 > > > >Why do you have to be so stupid. You have made some idiotic assumptions > >about this posting. This is a jobs list and someone is posting a job in a > >related field and you are so high and mighty to assume this has nothing > to > >do with Cisco?? I am so tired of lame people like you in these lists. I > >have > >been on this list for a few months now and have seen few real job > postings > >from anyone. Now someone actually puts up real jobs and you, Mr. "Cisco > >God" > >surely would never need to look for a job. Or are you just some flake who > >has nothing better to do but defame and stifle progress. Clark from Dell > at > >least has a real email address, not some, "I'm going to get a hotmail > >address and call myself a Cisco God even though I don't know a darn thing > >about Cisco routers" email address. I would much rather see actual job > >postings as spam than your idiotic replies. See, I have a real email > >address. Don't you Mr./Mrs./Miss Cisco God? Some of us people in the real > >workforce aren't Cisco-only centric. Are you? That's too bad. > > > > Scott M. > >www.scott.mcelhaney.com > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > >Cisco God > >Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 4:47 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: DELL > > > > > >The job titles have little importance, but I don't see anywhere in your > job > >description where the word "Cisco" shows up. So, unless the positions you > >offer have anything to do with the subject of this mailing list... please > > >go > > > >spam elsewhere. > > > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: RE: DELL > > >Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 08:23:15 -0500 > > > > > >We are aware NT and Novell are not networks-that they are operating > >systems > > >to facilitate utilization of particular systems that are networked > > >together. > > >Most everyone understands job titles are hacked, cobbled and
Re: Dell switches [7:50934]
The Dell switch product line is the spawn of the underworld. Using Dell switches will cause your teeth to fall out and hair to grow on your palms. Dell switches will make your food taste like dust and your water taste like vinegar. Don't even ask what happens to your packets as they cross a Dell backplane. Well, what else would you expect from us Cisco jocks? :-> ""John Chang"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Has anyone used Dell managed switches 3024 or 5012 and is it reliable? > complaints? problems? Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=51004&t=50934 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dell switches [7:50934]
This is not intended to offend anyone: Just thought professionals could be just that and wanted an objective answer if you had used a Dell managed switch. Thank you. At 01:07 AM 8/9/2002 +, Chuck wrote: >The Dell switch product line is the spawn of the underworld. Using Dell >switches will cause your teeth to fall out and hair to grow on your palms. >Dell switches will make your food taste like dust and your water taste like >vinegar. Don't even ask what happens to your packets as they cross a Dell >backplane. > >Well, what else would you expect from us Cisco jocks? :-> > > >""John Chang"" wrote in message >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Has anyone used Dell managed switches 3024 or 5012 and is it reliable? > > complaints? problems? Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=51142&t=50934 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dell switches [7:50934]
this is not intended to offend anyone, but sometimes people on newsgroups make feeble attempts at humor. just thought adults could be just that, and might laugh if they thought it funny, and ignore it if they thought otherwise. - Original Message - From: "John Chang" To: "Chuck" ; Sent: Saturday, 10 August, 2002 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Dell switches [7:50934] > This is not intended to offend anyone: Just thought professionals could be > just that and wanted an objective answer if you had used a Dell managed > switch. Thank you. > > > > At 01:07 AM 8/9/2002 +, Chuck wrote: > >The Dell switch product line is the spawn of the underworld. Using Dell > >switches will cause your teeth to fall out and hair to grow on your palms. > >Dell switches will make your food taste like dust and your water taste like > >vinegar. Don't even ask what happens to your packets as they cross a Dell > >backplane. > > > >Well, what else would you expect from us Cisco jocks? :-> > > > > > >""John Chang"" wrote in message > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Has anyone used Dell managed switches 3024 or 5012 and is it reliable? > > > complaints? problems? Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=51145&t=50934 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dell switches [7:50934]
I have to concur with my colleague Mr. Brunner’s 8/8 post and add this: If Cisco would lower their Cost they wouldn’t be shooting themselves in the foot. Yeah, Yeah I know Cisco quality and support… Ok they are still the king of the hill and FOR THE MOST PART you get what you pay for; however, ponder this – we recently deployed 2 VPN 3002 hardware clients and they had MADE IN MEXICO stamped on them… WTF??? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=51149&t=50934 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dell switches [7:50934]
I think it was humo(u)r John. I'm an eternal infant and appreciate the poor humo(u)r as much as the serious replies. Have a beer Have a 'Chuck'le.:-) Sorry, not seen much of Dell switches, but no doubt if you get enough sarcastic infantile replies it will keep the thread alive to be read by someone who has. Good luck Gaz ""John Chang"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > This is not intended to offend anyone: Just thought professionals could be > just that and wanted an objective answer if you had used a Dell managed > switch. Thank you. > > > > At 01:07 AM 8/9/2002 +, Chuck wrote: > >The Dell switch product line is the spawn of the underworld. Using Dell > >switches will cause your teeth to fall out and hair to grow on your palms. > >Dell switches will make your food taste like dust and your water taste like > >vinegar. Don't even ask what happens to your packets as they cross a Dell > >backplane. > > > >Well, what else would you expect from us Cisco jocks? :-> > > > > > >""John Chang"" wrote in message > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Has anyone used Dell managed switches 3024 or 5012 and is it reliable? > > > complaints? problems? Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=51150&t=50934 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dell switches [7:50934]
I apparently forgot my chill pill this morning. :) Thanks. At 10:04 AM 8/10/2002 -0700, Chuck Larrieu wrote: >this is not intended to offend anyone, but sometimes people on newsgroups >make feeble attempts at humor. just thought adults could be just that, and >might laugh if they thought it funny, and ignore it if they thought >otherwise. > > >- Original Message - >From: "John Chang" >To: "Chuck" ; >Sent: Saturday, 10 August, 2002 9:33 AM >Subject: Re: Dell switches [7:50934] > > > > This is not intended to offend anyone: Just thought professionals could >be > > just that and wanted an objective answer if you had used a Dell managed > > switch. Thank you. > > > > > > > > At 01:07 AM 8/9/2002 +, Chuck wrote: > > >The Dell switch product line is the spawn of the underworld. Using Dell > > >switches will cause your teeth to fall out and hair to grow on your >palms. > > >Dell switches will make your food taste like dust and your water taste >like > > >vinegar. Don't even ask what happens to your packets as they cross a Dell > > >backplane. > > > > > >Well, what else would you expect from us Cisco jocks? :-> > > > > > > > > >""John Chang"" wrote in message > > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > Has anyone used Dell managed switches 3024 or 5012 and is it reliable? > > > > complaints? problems? Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=51154&t=50934 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: Dell switches [7:51160]
Hi all, I've worked with several of the Dell PowerConnect switches, a few of my customers chose to purchase them because of the attractive price, after all it is an access switch (the 2124's) I don't have much to say other than that I havn't run into any issues, they have a slick web interface (which doesn't excite me but the IT manager-types seem to like the swizzy pointy clicky foo) and they perform well, but of course it's no Cisco. In all fairness I'd have to say that they are excellent for what they are, cheap access switches. I work with Cisco, Extreme, and Foundry switches on a daily basis so all I really care about is my distro / core layers and I'm not aware of anything comparable to the Dell at that price point (except mebbe netgear, and they aren't fully manageable to my knowledge) One of these days I will crack the cover and see what's under the hood, and put some in-house switch slamming tools to task and see how it compares to a cat. 2924XL, but again, it's a cheap access switch so I personally refrain from knocking on them too hard. Enjoy the weekend all on a completely different tangent - if anyone out there has worked with the Cricket stats package you might appreciate the cool foo my co-worker came up with at http://stats.sonic.net/cricket (this time I'm really off to lunch) -zeke On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, Gaz wrote: > I think it was humo(u)r John. I'm an eternal infant and appreciate the poor > humo(u)r as much as the serious replies. > Have a beer Have a 'Chuck'le.:-) > > Sorry, not seen much of Dell switches, but no doubt if you get enough > sarcastic infantile replies it will keep the thread alive to be read by > someone who has. > > Good luck > > Gaz > > > ""John Chang"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > This is not intended to offend anyone: Just thought professionals could > be > > just that and wanted an objective answer if you had used a Dell managed > > switch. Thank you. > > > > > > > > At 01:07 AM 8/9/2002 +, Chuck wrote: > > >The Dell switch product line is the spawn of the underworld. Using Dell > > >switches will cause your teeth to fall out and hair to grow on your > palms. > > >Dell switches will make your food taste like dust and your water taste > like > > >vinegar. Don't even ask what happens to your packets as they cross a Dell > > >backplane. > > > > > >Well, what else would you expect from us Cisco jocks? :-> > > > > > > > > >""John Chang"" wrote in message > > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > Has anyone used Dell managed switches 3024 or 5012 and is it reliable? > > > > complaints? problems? Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=51160&t=51160 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
