Re: Failed CID (640-025)....

2000-11-27 Thread Robert Padjen

Yes, the StrataCom materials are only found in the
Cisco course materials and the Sybex book. They are
not even in the objectives listing, which would seem
very unfair. Other than Rishard's correct indication
of the backplane I would only suggest assuming that
the 'best' / highest number that sounds reasonable
would make a fine guess. Rarely does an exam
illustrate deficiencies in a product... ;)


--- Rishard Chapoteau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The BPX not BGX switch has a 9.6 Gps backplane. 
 Chapter 21 of the Cid
 course.  If you only read the Cisco press book you
 wouldn't see it.  Its a
 stratacom switch.
 
 
 ""Aaron Moreau-Cook"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
 in message

[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Can anyone tell me why I need to care about SNA,
 IPX, Token Ring, or ATM
 WAN
  Switches in the CID Exam?
 
  I was very disappointed in this exam, I've been
 reading this exam sucked.
 It
  really sucked when almost 20% of the questions
 were SNA, 20% were Token
  Ring I had a few ATM WAN Switches, but I have
 never needed or seen one
  before. Working at a content provider I don't have
 the luxury to order a
  strand of fiber and try to make a ATM network off
 of it.
 
  Question:
 
  What is the backplane of the BGX ATM Switch Have?
  a) 9.6 gbps
  b) 1.2 gbps
  c) 45 mbps
  d) I have never seen a BGX ATM Switch before.
 
  Lame... Lame... Lame...
 
  I'll be retaking this exam on Monday.
 
  Score: 500/1000, 650 needed to pass.
 
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Re: Failed CID (640-025)....

2000-11-25 Thread Rishard Chapoteau

The BPX not BGX switch has a 9.6 Gps backplane.  Chapter 21 of the Cid
course.  If you only read the Cisco press book you wouldn't see it.  Its a
stratacom switch.


""Aaron Moreau-Cook"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Can anyone tell me why I need to care about SNA, IPX, Token Ring, or ATM
WAN
 Switches in the CID Exam?

 I was very disappointed in this exam, I've been reading this exam sucked.
It
 really sucked when almost 20% of the questions were SNA, 20% were Token
 Ring I had a few ATM WAN Switches, but I have never needed or seen one
 before. Working at a content provider I don't have the luxury to order a
 strand of fiber and try to make a ATM network off of it.

 Question:

 What is the backplane of the BGX ATM Switch Have?
 a) 9.6 gbps
 b) 1.2 gbps
 c) 45 mbps
 d) I have never seen a BGX ATM Switch before.

 Lame... Lame... Lame...

 I'll be retaking this exam on Monday.

 Score: 500/1000, 650 needed to pass.

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Re: Failed CID (640-025)....

2000-11-22 Thread Jeremy Wadhams

Actually, I passed this one the first time around, albeit with a 670
(650 needed).  I felt a little guilty until I found out that our
resident CCIE passed with a 690. 

So take your failure with a little grain of salt.  Poor CID performance
has nothing to do with poor design ability.

Jeremy

Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
 
 At 05:08 PM 11/21/00, Gordon Olson wrote:
 When is the current CID set to retire?
 
 No telling. The beta retires December 15th. It usually takes them at least
 a couple months to figure out the beta results and publish a new test. So
 don't hold your breath.
 
 Priscilla
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Priscilla Oppenheimer
 Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 10:18 AM
 To: Aaron Moreau-Cook; cisco
 Subject: Re: Failed CID (640-025)
 
 
 Cisco is updating CID. You could take the new beta for a low cost of $25.
 One has to believe that they improved the test and brought it into the
 current millennium. (whether you believe we're in the new one yet or not)
 More info here:
 
 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/beta_exams.h
 tm
 
 Priscilla
 
 At 07:22 PM 11/20/00, Aaron Moreau-Cook wrote:
  Can anyone tell me why I need to care about SNA, IPX, Token Ring, or ATM
 WAN
  Switches in the CID Exam?
  
  I was very disappointed in this exam, I've been reading this exam sucked.
 It
  really sucked when almost 20% of the questions were SNA, 20% were Token
  Ring I had a few ATM WAN Switches, but I have never needed or seen one
  before. Working at a content provider I don't have the luxury to order a
  strand of fiber and try to make a ATM network off of it.
  
  Question:
  
  What is the backplane of the BGX ATM Switch Have?
  a) 9.6 gbps
  b) 1.2 gbps
  c) 45 mbps
  d) I have never seen a BGX ATM Switch before.
  
  Lame... Lame... Lame...
  
  I'll be retaking this exam on Monday.
  
  Score: 500/1000, 650 needed to pass.
  
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Re: Failed CID (640-025)....

2000-11-21 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

Working for a service provider ATM is big.
and we still use mainframes for billing and the like.
but we don't do content.
Duck
- Original Message -
From: Aaron Moreau-Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: cisco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 7:22 PM
Subject: Failed CID (640-025)


 Can anyone tell me why I need to care about SNA, IPX, Token Ring, or ATM
WAN
 Switches in the CID Exam?

 I was very disappointed in this exam, I've been reading this exam sucked.
It
 really sucked when almost 20% of the questions were SNA, 20% were Token
 Ring I had a few ATM WAN Switches, but I have never needed or seen one
 before. Working at a content provider I don't have the luxury to order a
 strand of fiber and try to make a ATM network off of it.

 Question:

 What is the backplane of the BGX ATM Switch Have?
 a) 9.6 gbps
 b) 1.2 gbps
 c) 45 mbps
 d) I have never seen a BGX ATM Switch before.

 Lame... Lame... Lame...

 I'll be retaking this exam on Monday.

 Score: 500/1000, 650 needed to pass.

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Re: Failed CID (640-025)....

2000-11-21 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

a
Duck
- Original Message -
From: Aaron Moreau-Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: cisco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 7:22 PM
Subject: Failed CID (640-025)


 Can anyone tell me why I need to care about SNA, IPX, Token Ring, or ATM
WAN
 Switches in the CID Exam?

 I was very disappointed in this exam, I've been reading this exam sucked.
It
 really sucked when almost 20% of the questions were SNA, 20% were Token
 Ring I had a few ATM WAN Switches, but I have never needed or seen one
 before. Working at a content provider I don't have the luxury to order a
 strand of fiber and try to make a ATM network off of it.

 Question:

 What is the backplane of the BGX ATM Switch Have?
 a) 9.6 gbps
 b) 1.2 gbps
 c) 45 mbps
 d) I have never seen a BGX ATM Switch before.

 Lame... Lame... Lame...

 I'll be retaking this exam on Monday.

 Score: 500/1000, 650 needed to pass.

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RE: Failed CID (640-025)....

2000-11-21 Thread TALBOT, WILLIAM P (SWBT)

The ONLY reason you need to care about those things (in this case) on the
exam is the fact that they are *on the exam*

Whether they are of great relevance to you or anyone else for that matter is
of little consequence.  You want to play the man's game, you play by the
man's rules.

Been there though, it *does* suck, and I feel for you.  Good luck on the
retake.

Happy Turkey Day to all in advance,

Pat

Pat Talbot, CNE,CCNP,CCDA  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Aaron Moreau-Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 9:22 PM
To: cisco
Subject: Failed CID (640-025)


Can anyone tell me why I need to care about SNA, IPX, Token Ring, or ATM WAN
Switches in the CID Exam?

I was very disappointed in this exam, I've been reading this exam sucked. It
really sucked when almost 20% of the questions were SNA, 20% were Token
Ring I had a few ATM WAN Switches, but I have never needed or seen one
before. Working at a content provider I don't have the luxury to order a
strand of fiber and try to make a ATM network off of it.

Question:

What is the backplane of the BGX ATM Switch Have?
a) 9.6 gbps
b) 1.2 gbps
c) 45 mbps
d) I have never seen a BGX ATM Switch before.

Lame... Lame... Lame...

I'll be retaking this exam on Monday.

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Re: Failed CID (640-025)....

2000-11-21 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr
Title: RE: Failed CID (640-025)



I thought the same about ccda
dUCK

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Taylor, Don 
  To: 'Aaron Moreau-Cook' ; cisco 
  Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 7:37 
  PM
  Subject: RE: Failed CID 
  (640-025)
  
  I've said this before, but I'll rant again: this exam 
  sucks like a Hoover. It is, IMNSHO, not relevant to the real world. However, 
  the certification is nice to have, and Robert Padjen's (Sybex) Cisco 
  Internetwork Design is the best preparation for it that I've seen.
  - Don 
  -Original Message- From: Aaron 
  Moreau-Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 7:22 PM To: cisco Subject: Failed CID 
  (640-025) 
  Can anyone tell me why I need to care about SNA, IPX, Token 
  Ring, or ATM WAN Switches in the CID Exam? 
  I was very disappointed in this exam, I've been reading this 
  exam sucked. It really sucked when almost 20% of the 
  questions were SNA, 20% were Token Ring I had a 
  few ATM WAN Switches, but I have never needed or seen one before. Working at a content provider I don't have the luxury to order 
  a strand of fiber and try to make a ATM network off of 
  it. 
  Question: 
  What is the backplane of the BGX ATM Switch Have? 
  a) 9.6 gbps b) 1.2 gbps 
  c) 45 mbps d) I have never seen a BGX 
  ATM Switch before. 
  Lame... Lame... Lame... 
  I'll be retaking this exam on Monday. 
  Score: 500/1000, 650 needed to pass. 
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Re: Failed CID (640-025)....

2000-11-21 Thread Patrick Bass

You'll likley fail again.

Lame or not, it's on the test, and you need to know it to pass.

Pat Bass
CCNP/CCDP

""Aaron Moreau-Cook"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Can anyone tell me why I need to care about SNA, IPX, Token Ring, or ATM
WAN
 Switches in the CID Exam?

 I was very disappointed in this exam, I've been reading this exam sucked.
It
 really sucked when almost 20% of the questions were SNA, 20% were Token
 Ring I had a few ATM WAN Switches, but I have never needed or seen one
 before. Working at a content provider I don't have the luxury to order a
 strand of fiber and try to make a ATM network off of it.

 Question:

 What is the backplane of the BGX ATM Switch Have?
 a) 9.6 gbps
 b) 1.2 gbps
 c) 45 mbps
 d) I have never seen a BGX ATM Switch before.

 Lame... Lame... Lame...

 I'll be retaking this exam on Monday.

 Score: 500/1000, 650 needed to pass.

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RE: Failed CID (640-025)....

2000-11-21 Thread Louie Belt

I deal with SNA and Token Ring on an almost weekly basis.  A number of big
banks still have this as the mainstay of their network.  IPX is still out
there in hundreds of thousands of networks and ATM is a major player as
well.  Just because "you" don't deal with these on a regular basis, does not
mean they don't exist.  If you want the certification, then you must learn
to deal with what's out there - and all of these are out there in big
numbers.

Louie

When I disagree with a rational man, I let reality be our final arbiter; If
I am right, he will learn, If I am wrong, I will; one of us will win, but
both of us will profit.

- John Galt


- Original Message -
From: Aaron Moreau-Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: cisco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 7:22 PM
Subject: Failed CID (640-025)


 Can anyone tell me why I need to care about SNA, IPX, Token Ring, or ATM
WAN
 Switches in the CID Exam?

 I was very disappointed in this exam, I've been reading this exam sucked.
It
 really sucked when almost 20% of the questions were SNA, 20% were Token
 Ring I had a few ATM WAN Switches, but I have never needed or seen one
 before. Working at a content provider I don't have the luxury to order a
 strand of fiber and try to make a ATM network off of it.

 Question:

 What is the backplane of the BGX ATM Switch Have?
 a) 9.6 gbps
 b) 1.2 gbps
 c) 45 mbps
 d) I have never seen a BGX ATM Switch before.

 Lame... Lame... Lame...

 I'll be retaking this exam on Monday.

 Score: 500/1000, 650 needed to pass.

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Re: Failed CID (640-025)....

2000-11-21 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Cisco is updating CID. You could take the new beta for a low cost of $25. 
One has to believe that they improved the test and brought it into the 
current millennium. (whether you believe we're in the new one yet or not) 
More info here:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/beta_exams.htm

Priscilla

At 07:22 PM 11/20/00, Aaron Moreau-Cook wrote:
Can anyone tell me why I need to care about SNA, IPX, Token Ring, or ATM WAN
Switches in the CID Exam?

I was very disappointed in this exam, I've been reading this exam sucked. It
really sucked when almost 20% of the questions were SNA, 20% were Token
Ring I had a few ATM WAN Switches, but I have never needed or seen one
before. Working at a content provider I don't have the luxury to order a
strand of fiber and try to make a ATM network off of it.

Question:

What is the backplane of the BGX ATM Switch Have?
a) 9.6 gbps
b) 1.2 gbps
c) 45 mbps
d) I have never seen a BGX ATM Switch before.

Lame... Lame... Lame...

I'll be retaking this exam on Monday.

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RE: Failed CID (640-025)-Try Boson

2000-11-21 Thread Gordon Olson

I have a friend that passed it yesterday with an 800, he told me "Buy the
Boson" He is now a NP\DP and said that this test is not that difficult when
compared to the ACRC (Routing) CIT (troubleshooting) exams.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Donald B Johnson Jr
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 11:00 AM
To: Aaron Moreau-Cook; cisco
Subject: Re: Failed CID (640-025)


a
Duck
- Original Message -
From: Aaron Moreau-Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: cisco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 7:22 PM
Subject: Failed CID (640-025)


 Can anyone tell me why I need to care about SNA, IPX, Token Ring, or ATM
WAN
 Switches in the CID Exam?

 I was very disappointed in this exam, I've been reading this exam sucked.
It
 really sucked when almost 20% of the questions were SNA, 20% were Token
 Ring I had a few ATM WAN Switches, but I have never needed or seen one
 before. Working at a content provider I don't have the luxury to order a
 strand of fiber and try to make a ATM network off of it.

 Question:

 What is the backplane of the BGX ATM Switch Have?
 a) 9.6 gbps
 b) 1.2 gbps
 c) 45 mbps
 d) I have never seen a BGX ATM Switch before.

 Lame... Lame... Lame...

 I'll be retaking this exam on Monday.

 Score: 500/1000, 650 needed to pass.

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RE: Failed CID (640-025)....

2000-11-21 Thread Gordon Olson

When is the current CID set to retire?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Priscilla Oppenheimer
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 10:18 AM
To: Aaron Moreau-Cook; cisco
Subject: Re: Failed CID (640-025)


Cisco is updating CID. You could take the new beta for a low cost of $25.
One has to believe that they improved the test and brought it into the
current millennium. (whether you believe we're in the new one yet or not)
More info here:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/beta_exams.h
tm

Priscilla

At 07:22 PM 11/20/00, Aaron Moreau-Cook wrote:
Can anyone tell me why I need to care about SNA, IPX, Token Ring, or ATM
WAN
Switches in the CID Exam?

I was very disappointed in this exam, I've been reading this exam sucked.
It
really sucked when almost 20% of the questions were SNA, 20% were Token
Ring I had a few ATM WAN Switches, but I have never needed or seen one
before. Working at a content provider I don't have the luxury to order a
strand of fiber and try to make a ATM network off of it.

Question:

What is the backplane of the BGX ATM Switch Have?
a) 9.6 gbps
b) 1.2 gbps
c) 45 mbps
d) I have never seen a BGX ATM Switch before.

Lame... Lame... Lame...

I'll be retaking this exam on Monday.

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RE: Failed CID (640-025)....

2000-11-21 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 05:08 PM 11/21/00, Gordon Olson wrote:
When is the current CID set to retire?

No telling. The beta retires December 15th. It usually takes them at least 
a couple months to figure out the beta results and publish a new test. So 
don't hold your breath.

Priscilla


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Priscilla Oppenheimer
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 10:18 AM
To: Aaron Moreau-Cook; cisco
Subject: Re: Failed CID (640-025)


Cisco is updating CID. You could take the new beta for a low cost of $25.
One has to believe that they improved the test and brought it into the
current millennium. (whether you believe we're in the new one yet or not)
More info here:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/beta_exams.h
tm

Priscilla

At 07:22 PM 11/20/00, Aaron Moreau-Cook wrote:
 Can anyone tell me why I need to care about SNA, IPX, Token Ring, or ATM
WAN
 Switches in the CID Exam?
 
 I was very disappointed in this exam, I've been reading this exam sucked.
It
 really sucked when almost 20% of the questions were SNA, 20% were Token
 Ring I had a few ATM WAN Switches, but I have never needed or seen one
 before. Working at a content provider I don't have the luxury to order a
 strand of fiber and try to make a ATM network off of it.
 
 Question:
 
 What is the backplane of the BGX ATM Switch Have?
 a) 9.6 gbps
 b) 1.2 gbps
 c) 45 mbps
 d) I have never seen a BGX ATM Switch before.
 
 Lame... Lame... Lame...
 
 I'll be retaking this exam on Monday.
 
 Score: 500/1000, 650 needed to pass.
 
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RE: Failed CID (640-025)....

2000-11-20 Thread Taylor, Don
Title: RE: Failed CID (640-025)





I've said this before, but I'll rant again: this exam sucks like a Hoover. It is, IMNSHO, not relevant to the real world. However, the certification is nice to have, and Robert Padjen's (Sybex) Cisco Internetwork Design is the best preparation for it that I've seen.

- Don


-Original Message-
From: Aaron Moreau-Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 7:22 PM
To: cisco
Subject: Failed CID (640-025)



Can anyone tell me why I need to care about SNA, IPX, Token Ring, or ATM WAN
Switches in the CID Exam?


I was very disappointed in this exam, I've been reading this exam sucked. It
really sucked when almost 20% of the questions were SNA, 20% were Token
Ring I had a few ATM WAN Switches, but I have never needed or seen one
before. Working at a content provider I don't have the luxury to order a
strand of fiber and try to make a ATM network off of it.


Question:


What is the backplane of the BGX ATM Switch Have?
a) 9.6 gbps
b) 1.2 gbps
c) 45 mbps
d) I have never seen a BGX ATM Switch before.


Lame... Lame... Lame...


I'll be retaking this exam on Monday.


Score: 500/1000, 650 needed to pass.


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Re: Failed CID (640-025)....

2000-11-20 Thread Kevin Wigle

If you got 500 and need 650 do you really think you'll be in a position to
take it on Monday?

Failing never feels good, I've failed an exam a time or two.

But I think you should suck back and reload.  If you needed that info this
time what makes you think those questions won't come up again?

As far the MGX/BPX/IGX series of switches go, the lack of info has been
talked about on this list before.  Personally, I was thankful that the Boson
test had questions on those switches and I was somewhat prepared for them.

As to SNA and Token Ring, it's out there and a designer has to deal with it.
It's still on the CCIE ticket so you may as well know it now.

It is always a challenge to work someplace that doesn't give you the
exposure you need to advance but that's what self-study/courses/renting rack
time/personal lab... are all about.

I'm not really getting down on you but it sounds like you didn't expect the
exam to kick your @ss.  There have been many posts here that the CID is not
any "normal" exam.

If you go for it on Monday - good luck, but save yourself more grief - get a
Boson prep exam.

Kevin Wigle

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Sent: Monday, 20 November, 2000 22:22
Subject: Failed CID (640-025)


 Can anyone tell me why I need to care about SNA, IPX, Token Ring, or ATM
WAN
 Switches in the CID Exam?

 I was very disappointed in this exam, I've been reading this exam sucked.
It
 really sucked when almost 20% of the questions were SNA, 20% were Token
 Ring I had a few ATM WAN Switches, but I have never needed or seen one
 before. Working at a content provider I don't have the luxury to order a
 strand of fiber and try to make a ATM network off of it.

 Question:

 What is the backplane of the BGX ATM Switch Have?
 a) 9.6 gbps
 b) 1.2 gbps
 c) 45 mbps
 d) I have never seen a BGX ATM Switch before.

 Lame... Lame... Lame...

 I'll be retaking this exam on Monday.

 Score: 500/1000, 650 needed to pass.

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RE: Failed CID!

2000-10-09 Thread Robert Padjen

I'm sorry to hear about your experience as well. You
are correct that the test's biggest challenge is the
writing and not the material. Given that many concepts
are not on the exam and even more are outdated, it is
not difficult to understand why one would do poorly
even if they have years of current experience. Good
luck on your re-try.

--- hao vu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hal,
 
 Sorry to hear that. For what it's worth, I heard
 about those vague questions
 too.
 Hang in there!
 
 hv
 
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 Hal White
 Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 8:14 AM
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 Subject: Failed CID!
 
 
 I can't believe that I just failed the CID by six
 questions.  I did not fail
 because I do not understand network design, I failed
 because the test was so
 horribly written.  The questions were not hard, they
 were vague.  There were
 several questions with typos and errors.  This test
 was as bad as the old
 CID test which I also thought was horribly written. 
 I put in alot of study
 time, I read the CID book, watched the online CID
 class and I read several
 desing documents on Cisco's site.  Hopefully, Cisco
 will rewrite this test
 soon because it is awful.
 Then to make matters worse, I was mad driving back
 to my office and I wasn't
 paying attention and I got a speeding ticket. 
 Hopefully my day will
 improve, because it could not get any worse.

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RE: Failed CID!

2000-10-07 Thread hao vu

Hal,

Sorry to hear that. For what it's worth, I heard about those vague questions
too.
Hang in there!

hv

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I can't believe that I just failed the CID by six questions.  I did not fail
because I do not understand network design, I failed because the test was so
horribly written.  The questions were not hard, they were vague.  There were
several questions with typos and errors.  This test was as bad as the old
CID test which I also thought was horribly written.  I put in alot of study
time, I read the CID book, watched the online CID class and I read several
desing documents on Cisco's site.  Hopefully, Cisco will rewrite this test
soon because it is awful.
Then to make matters worse, I was mad driving back to my office and I wasn't
paying attention and I got a speeding ticket.  Hopefully my day will
improve, because it could not get any worse.
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Re: Failed CID!

2000-10-06 Thread Brian

On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Hal White wrote:

 I can't believe that I just failed the CID by six questions.  I did not fail 

don't kick yourself too hard, its a pretty challenging test with a broad
range of material.

 because I do not understand network design, I failed because the test was so 
 horribly written.  The questions were not hard, they were vague.  There were 
 several questions with typos and errors.  This test was as bad as the old 

I saw some typos as well.  The questions are actually probably intended to
be vauge, intended so that the answer isn't obvious, or that maybe their
are multiple answers...but "which is best".

 CID test which I also thought was horribly written.  I put in alot of study 
 time, I read the CID book, watched the online CID class and I read several 
 desing documents on Cisco's site.  Hopefully, Cisco will rewrite this test 
 soon because it is awful.

Well, hopefuly you will re-take it soon too, while its still fresh in your
head.  At least now that you have seen the test, you probably know what to
start readin up on.

 Then to make matters worse, I was mad driving back to my office and I wasn't 
 paying attention and I got a speeding ticket.  Hopefully my day will 
 improve, because it could not get any worse.

when it rains

Brian


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RE: Failed CID!

2000-10-06 Thread Taylor, Don
Title: RE: Failed CID!





Agreed - IN SPADES!! I studied the subject material on the objectives list and still managed to fail a few times. Finally I gave up and read an actual study guide that helped word the information the way the test words it (Robert Padjen's CCDA Study Guide by Sybex - Highly recommended!). This is simply the only way to go with the old Cisco tests. Knowing the material just isn't enough; you have to know the TEST.

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On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Hal White wrote:


 I can't believe that I just failed the CID by six questions. I did not fail 


don't kick yourself too hard, its a pretty challenging test with a broad
range of material.


 because I do not understand network design, I failed because the test was so 
 horribly written. The questions were not hard, they were vague. There were 
 several questions with typos and errors. This test was as bad as the old 


I saw some typos as well. The questions are actually probably intended to
be vauge, intended so that the answer isn't obvious, or that maybe their
are multiple answers...but which is best.


 CID test which I also thought was horribly written. I put in alot of study 
 time, I read the CID book, watched the online CID class and I read several 
 desing documents on Cisco's site. Hopefully, Cisco will rewrite this test 
 soon because it is awful.


Well, hopefuly you will re-take it soon too, while its still fresh in your
head. At least now that you have seen the test, you probably know what to
start readin up on.


 Then to make matters worse, I was mad driving back to my office and I wasn't 
 paying attention and I got a speeding ticket. Hopefully my day will 
 improve, because it could not get any worse.


when it rains


Brian



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