RE: Mail Relay [7:45144]

2002-05-29 Thread richard dumoulin

Ok guys, thx to all for ur help. I think I got the picture.

Regards.


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RE: Mail Relay [7:45144]

2002-05-29 Thread Viet Tran

Nobody knows ??
Can anyone tell me what is a mail relay for ??

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In a typical mail flow, a source mail client sends
message to its mail server.  This mai server then
directs the message to its nearest mail relay, then to
next mail relay, then to the next-next ... until the
message reaches the mail server at the other end to be
delivered to the destination mail client.
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I know it is not a Cisco issue, but for me it is
related to the fact that I am only studying cisco
stuff and therefore do not know anything about those
kind of Microsoft things.

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Actually it's not Microsoft or whatever thing, but
should be called SMTP thing.  However, the majority of
mail relay boxes out there implement their relay job
running sendmail, an integrated GNU software found in
every Unix machine including Linux of course. 
Maintaining sendmail is challenging, but very
rewarding.  You can start by reading DNS  BIND and
Sendmail of O'Reilly, then jumping to Sendmail Theory
 Practice of someone I don't recall the name right
now.
-

Hope it helps little bit.

Regards,

Victor Tran.
Santa Clara County ISD.

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RE: Mail Relay [7:45144]

2002-05-29 Thread SAM Meng Wai

Hi,

To my knowledge, Mail Relay is SMTP server forwording
the email which source don't belong to its client or
domain. For example, [EMAIL PROTECTED] want to send mail to
his friend. By default, [EMAIL PROTECTED] require to specify
its STMP server under abc.com domain ie SMTP server under
abc.com domain. If [EMAIL PROTECTED] specify its SMTP server as
xxx.def.com and xxx.def.com SMTP server allow this email
to forward its to global interenet, then xxx.def.com is
doing mail relay...

In conclusion, all the email client in the world can send 
mail to their friend as long as they specific their SMTP
server as xxx.def.com...which causing spamming...
Thus, to prevent mail relay, SMTP server should check the
source domain before forwarding the email out...

Do correct me if i am wrong.
Rgds,
Sam

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Subject: RE: Mail Relay [7:45144]


Nobody knows ??
Can anyone tell me what is a mail relay for ??

--
In a typical mail flow, a source mail client sends
message to its mail server.  This mai server then
directs the message to its nearest mail relay, then to
next mail relay, then to the next-next ... until the
message reaches the mail server at the other end to be
delivered to the destination mail client.
--

I know it is not a Cisco issue, but for me it is
related to the fact that I am only studying cisco
stuff and therefore do not know anything about those
kind of Microsoft things.

---
Actually it's not Microsoft or whatever thing, but
should be called SMTP thing.  However, the majority of
mail relay boxes out there implement their relay job
running sendmail, an integrated GNU software found in
every Unix machine including Linux of course. 
Maintaining sendmail is challenging, but very
rewarding.  You can start by reading DNS  BIND and
Sendmail of O'Reilly, then jumping to Sendmail Theory
 Practice of someone I don't recall the name right
now.
-

Hope it helps little bit.

Regards,

Victor Tran.
Santa Clara County ISD.

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com




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RE: Mail Relay [7:45144]

2002-05-28 Thread richard dumoulin

Nobody knows ??


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Re: Mail Relay [7:45144]

2002-05-28 Thread Steven A. Ridder

I think mail relays are to use any mail server to direct your mail on it's
final destination.  Just like you can use any DNS server on the internet to
answer a query, you could send your smtp message to a open relay server to
send your mail, especially if you didn't have a server on your network.



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 Can anyone tell me what is a mail relay for ??

 I know it is not a Cisco issue, but for me it is related to the fact that
I
 am only studying cisco stuff and therefore do not know anything about
those
 kind of Microsoft things.

 Regards.




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RE: Mail Relay [7:45144]

2002-05-28 Thread Craig Columbus

Richard,

I assume no one responded since it's not really on topic for the group.
A mail relay isn't a Microsoft thing.  It's basically any server (MS, UNIX, 
etc.) that sends mail to another server.
Open relays, or mail servers that don't restrict who can send mail through 
them, are a huge problem on the Internet since they're widely used for spam 
purposes.

HTH,
Craig



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Nobody knows ??




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RE: Mail Relay [7:45144]

2002-05-28 Thread Patrick Ramsey

nobody knows what?

 richard dumoulin  05/28/02 12:41PM 
Nobody knows ??
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Re: Mail Relay [7:45144]

2002-05-28 Thread Patrick Ramsey

a mail relay is simply any mail server.

Your pc is a mail relay when you send smtp traffic to your upstream mail
server.  That mail server then relays that traffic by doing an mx lookup on
the domain name.  That server could be an antivirus/content scanner which
could then relay the email to your internal mail server.

Just tossing the baton

-Patrick

 Steven A. Ridder  05/28/02 12:52PM 
I think mail relays are to use any mail server to direct your mail on it's
final destination.  Just like you can use any DNS server on the internet to
answer a query, you could send your smtp message to a open relay server to
send your mail, especially if you didn't have a server on your network.



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 Can anyone tell me what is a mail relay for ??

 I know it is not a Cisco issue, but for me it is related to the fact that
I
 am only studying cisco stuff and therefore do not know anything about
those
 kind of Microsoft things.

 Regards.
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RE: Mail Relay [7:45144]

2002-05-28 Thread Phil Lorenz

Hmmm- mail relay is a basic function of most ISP and Web hosting
services.

Big picture- your DNS name space and map too IP (range) for your SMTP
gateway must be listed in or accessible (resolvable) via Global DNS.
This allows for the relay downstream toward your exchange server
(assuming Microsoft).

It all pretty much starts with where your MX (Mail Exchanger) transmit
and receive records are pointed and what if any weights are applied in
your DNS entries.

I have studied this process and actually in the past have had to do a
little design work here, but shy of breaking-out the books this is all I
can seem to recall @ the moment.

Topics for research would be DNS  BIND (specifically MX records), Send
Mail, and Exchange (specifically where traffic is received).

Sorry if this may be too vague

Phil



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Subject: Mail Relay [7:45144]

Can anyone tell me what is a mail relay for ??

I know it is not a Cisco issue, but for me it is related to the fact
that I
am only studying cisco stuff and therefore do not know anything about
those
kind of Microsoft things.

Regards.




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