RE: O/T One question CID test
E has to be right, not F, cause it says none of the above, yet that is exactly what is written above it... Z From: "Leigh Anne Chisholm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Leigh Anne Chisholm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: O/T One question CID test Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:10:53 -0700 If "none of the above" is the correct answer, why would "E" be the right one to select? If "E" actually WAS the correct answer, there would be no need for "F". Thus, F must truly be the correct response IF E is correct. Dang! Job wanted: Test question writer. Will work for slivered peanuts. (-: Personally I would have selected D. My reasoning? A and B are out because no one EVER puts requirements BELOW the multiple choice selections. C is out because it could be construed as being too much like A. E and F are out because someone can't be that silly to develop a question where you would use the correct answer as a distractor also. **DISCLAIMER**: I refuse to take any responsibility should you encounter a question like this on any industry test. It's just entirely possible E or F IS the correct answer... -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 1:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: O/T One question CID test It can't be F because E is true. E is the right answer. All the other answers produce at least one contradiction. Simple logic, Sherlock. ;-) Priscilla From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: O/T One question CID test Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:28:35 -0800 I saw something like this in Parade magazine in the Ask Marilyn article today. I thought it was funny (and thought-provoking). In a campus network design, you should recommend ATM LANE if your customer has A. All of the below B. None of the below C. All of the above D. One of the above E. None of the above F. None of the above Doesn't this sound like a CID test question? ;-) There is a right answer! Can you deduce what it is? Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: O/T One question CID test
And here I thought that Priscilla left out part of her question (specifically the criteria as to what it is that the client has). Am I sincerely to believe that the multiple choice options are the criteria of the client? Perhaps I just need to go write the CID exam in order to fully appreciate the question... If I misinterpreted, then I'm TRULY never going to get another job writing test questions because I'd be WAY overpaid asking for slivers of peanuts. I'll have to lower my expectations and just ask for that papery outer coating... -Original Message- From: Mask Of Zorro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 9:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: O/T One question CID test E has to be right, not F, cause it says none of the above, yet that is exactly what is written above it... Z From: "Leigh Anne Chisholm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Leigh Anne Chisholm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: O/T One question CID test Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:10:53 -0700 If "none of the above" is the correct answer, why would "E" be the right one to select? If "E" actually WAS the correct answer, there would be no need for "F". Thus, F must truly be the correct response IF E is correct. Dang! Job wanted: Test question writer. Will work for slivered peanuts. (-: Personally I would have selected D. My reasoning? A and B are out because no one EVER puts requirements BELOW the multiple choice selections. C is out because it could be construed as being too much like A. E and F are out because someone can't be that silly to develop a question where you would use the correct answer as a distractor also. **DISCLAIMER**: I refuse to take any responsibility should you encounter a question like this on any industry test. It's just entirely possible E or F IS the correct answer... -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 1:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: O/T One question CID test It can't be F because E is true. E is the right answer. All the other answers produce at least one contradiction. Simple logic, Sherlock. ;-) Priscilla From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: O/T One question CID test Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:28:35 -0800 I saw something like this in Parade magazine in the Ask Marilyn article today. I thought it was funny (and thought-provoking). In a campus network design, you should recommend ATM LANE if your customer has A. All of the below B. None of the below C. All of the above D. One of the above E. None of the above F. None of the above Doesn't this sound like a CID test question? ;-) There is a right answer! Can you deduce what it is? Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: O/T One question CID test
On the CID test, you'll run across a few questions like this: you have absolutely no idea what the test writer is even trying to ask, yet you have to come up with some logical answer. Priscilla's post is pretty good preparation for that. :-) Before I took the test, she advised me that sometimes it was necessary to try a Vulcan mind meld with the test author to answer certain questions. Since I'm not Vulcan this didn't work so well for me, but at least I passed! The test is truly awful in a handful of places and it tests your test-taking ability more than your design skills, unfortunately. John "Leigh Anne Chisholm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/13/01 11:26:17 AM And here I thought that Priscilla left out part of her question (specifically the criteria as to what it is that the client has). Am I sincerely to believe that the multiple choice options are the criteria of the client? Perhaps I just need to go write the CID exam in order to fully appreciate the question... If I misinterpreted, then I'm TRULY never going to get another job writing test questions because I'd be WAY overpaid asking for slivers of peanuts. I'll have to lower my expectations and just ask for that papery outer coating... -Original Message- From: Mask Of Zorro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 9:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: O/T One question CID test E has to be right, not F, cause it says none of the above, yet that is exactly what is written above it... Z From: "Leigh Anne Chisholm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Leigh Anne Chisholm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: O/T One question CID test Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:10:53 -0700 If "none of the above" is the correct answer, why would "E" be the right one to select? If "E" actually WAS the correct answer, there would be no need for "F". Thus, F must truly be the correct response IF E is correct. Dang! Job wanted: Test question writer. Will work for slivered peanuts. (-: Personally I would have selected D. My reasoning? A and B are out because no one EVER puts requirements BELOW the multiple choice selections. C is out because it could be construed as being too much like A. E and F are out because someone can't be that silly to develop a question where you would use the correct answer as a distractor also. **DISCLAIMER**: I refuse to take any responsibility should you encounter a question like this on any industry test. It's just entirely possible E or F IS the correct answer... -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 1:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: O/T One question CID test It can't be F because E is true. E is the right answer. All the other answers produce at least one contradiction. Simple logic, Sherlock. ;-) Priscilla From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: O/T One question CID test Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:28:35 -0800 I saw something like this in Parade magazine in the Ask Marilyn article today. I thought it was funny (and thought-provoking). In a campus network design, you should recommend ATM LANE if your customer has A. All of the below B. None of the below C. All of the above D. One of the above E. None of the above F. None of the above Doesn't this sound like a CID test question? ;-) There is a right answer! Can you deduce what it is? Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, an
RE: O/T One question CID test
[ The following text is in the "iso-8859-1" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "US-ASCII" character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] And here I thought that Priscilla left out part of her question (specifically the criteria as to what it is that the client has). Am I sincerely to believe that the multiple choice options are the criteria of the client? Perhaps I just need to go write the CID exam in order to fully appreciate the question... If I misinterpreted, then I'm TRULY never going to get another job writing test questions because I'd be WAY overpaid asking for slivers of peanuts. I'll have to lower my expectations and just ask for that papery outer coating... -Original Message- From: Mask Of Zorro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 9:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: O/T One question CID test E has to be right, not F, cause it says none of the above, yet that is exactly what is written above it... Z From: "Leigh Anne Chisholm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Leigh Anne Chisholm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: O/T One question CID test Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:10:53 -0700 If "none of the above" is the correct answer, why would "E" be the right one to select? If "E" actually WAS the correct answer, there would be no need for "F". Thus, F must truly be the correct response IF E is correct. Dang! Job wanted: Test question writer. Will work for slivered peanuts. (-: Personally I would have selected D. My reasoning? A and B are out because no one EVER puts requirements BELOW the multiple choice selections. C is out because it could be construed as being too much like A. E and F are out because someone can't be that silly to develop a question where you would use the correct answer as a distractor also. **DISCLAIMER**: I refuse to take any responsibility should you encounter a question like this on any industry test. It's just entirely possible E or F IS the correct answer... -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 1:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: O/T One question CID test It can't be F because E is true. E is the right answer. All the other answers produce at least one contradiction. Simple logic, Sherlock. ;-) Priscilla From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: O/T One question CID test Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:28:35 -0800 I saw something like this in Parade magazine in the Ask Marilyn article today. I thought it was funny (and thought-provoking). In a campus network design, you should recommend ATM LANE if your customer has A. All of the below B. None of the below C. All of the above D. One of the above E. None of the above F. None of the above Doesn't this sound like a CID test question? ;-) There is a right answer! Can you deduce what it is? Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: O/T One question CID test
The answer should be E. -Original Message- From: Arthur Simplina [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 9:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: O/T One question CID test My answer is F. None of the above. Reason: pure guess. It is better to guess than no answer. :D Arthur From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: O/T One question CID test Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:28:35 -0800 I saw something like this in Parade magazine in the Ask Marilyn article today. I thought it was funny (and thought-provoking). In a campus network design, you should recommend ATM LANE if your customer has A. All of the below B. None of the below C. All of the above D. One of the above E. None of the above F. None of the above Doesn't this sound like a CID test question? ;-) There is a right answer! Can you deduce what it is? Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: O/T One question CID test
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Re: O/T One question CID test
It can't be F because E is true. E is the right answer. All the other answers produce at least one contradiction. Simple logic, Sherlock. ;-) Priscilla At 11:02 PM 3/11/01, Arthur Simplina wrote: My answer is F. None of the above. Reason: pure guess. It is better to guess than no answer. :D Arthur From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: O/T One question CID test Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:28:35 -0800 I saw something like this in Parade magazine in the Ask Marilyn article today. I thought it was funny (and thought-provoking). In a campus network design, you should recommend ATM LANE if your customer has A. All of the below B. None of the below C. All of the above D. One of the above E. None of the above F. None of the above Doesn't this sound like a CID test question? ;-) There is a right answer! Can you deduce what it is? Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: O/T One question CID test
So, why not "B"? - Original Message - From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 5:08 PM Subject: Re: O/T One question CID test It can't be F because E is true. E is the right answer. All the other answers produce at least one contradiction. Simple logic, Sherlock. ;-) Priscilla At 11:02 PM 3/11/01, Arthur Simplina wrote: My answer is F. None of the above. Reason: pure guess. It is better to guess than no answer. :D Arthur From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: O/T One question CID test Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:28:35 -0800 I saw something like this in Parade magazine in the Ask Marilyn article today. I thought it was funny (and thought-provoking). In a campus network design, you should recommend ATM LANE if your customer has A. All of the below B. None of the below C. All of the above D. One of the above E. None of the above F. None of the above Doesn't this sound like a CID test question? ;-) There is a right answer! Can you deduce what it is? Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: O/T One question CID test
If you choose B, then D becomes a true statements as well because you've picked one of the above. They are mutually exclusive. The only option that doesn't produce contradictions is E. "Raoní" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/12/01 1:47:04 PM So, why not "B"? - Original Message - From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 5:08 PM Subject: Re: O/T One question CID test It can't be F because E is true. E is the right answer. All the other answers produce at least one contradiction. Simple logic, Sherlock. ;-) Priscilla At 11:02 PM 3/11/01, Arthur Simplina wrote: My answer is F. None of the above. Reason: pure guess. It is better to guess than no answer. :D Arthur From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: O/T One question CID test Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:28:35 -0800 I saw something like this in Parade magazine in the Ask Marilyn article today. I thought it was funny (and thought-provoking). In a campus network design, you should recommend ATM LANE if your customer has A. All of the below B. None of the below C. All of the above D. One of the above E. None of the above F. None of the above Doesn't this sound like a CID test question? ;-) There is a right answer! Can you deduce what it is? Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: O/T One question CID test
Because D says that one of the above is true but B says that none of the below is true. ;-) At 05:47 PM 3/12/01, Raoní wrote: So, why not "B"? - Original Message - From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 5:08 PM Subject: Re: O/T One question CID test It can't be F because E is true. E is the right answer. All the other answers produce at least one contradiction. Simple logic, Sherlock. ;-) Priscilla At 11:02 PM 3/11/01, Arthur Simplina wrote: My answer is F. None of the above. Reason: pure guess. It is better to guess than no answer. :D Arthur From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: O/T One question CID test Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:28:35 -0800 I saw something like this in Parade magazine in the Ask Marilyn article today. I thought it was funny (and thought-provoking). In a campus network design, you should recommend ATM LANE if your customer has A. All of the below B. None of the below C. All of the above D. One of the above E. None of the above F. None of the above Doesn't this sound like a CID test question? ;-) There is a right answer! Can you deduce what it is? Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: O/T One question CID test
If "none of the above" is the correct answer, why would "E" be the right one to select? If "E" actually WAS the correct answer, there would be no need for "F". Thus, F must truly be the correct response IF E is correct. Dang! Job wanted: Test question writer. Will work for slivered peanuts. (-: Personally I would have selected D. My reasoning? A and B are out because no one EVER puts requirements BELOW the multiple choice selections. C is out because it could be construed as being too much like A. E and F are out because someone can't be that silly to develop a question where you would use the correct answer as a distractor also. **DISCLAIMER**: I refuse to take any responsibility should you encounter a question like this on any industry test. It's just entirely possible E or F IS the correct answer... -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 1:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: O/T One question CID test It can't be F because E is true. E is the right answer. All the other answers produce at least one contradiction. Simple logic, Sherlock. ;-) Priscilla From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: O/T One question CID test Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:28:35 -0800 I saw something like this in Parade magazine in the Ask Marilyn article today. I thought it was funny (and thought-provoking). In a campus network design, you should recommend ATM LANE if your customer has A. All of the below B. None of the below C. All of the above D. One of the above E. None of the above F. None of the above Doesn't this sound like a CID test question? ;-) There is a right answer! Can you deduce what it is? Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: O/T One question CID test
With that kind of so called deductive reasoning, F would also be a correct answer. Here's the reason. E is negating all the above answers ( that is to say that A,B,C and D are wrong). Then F says that even E is wrong. So F covers all basis more so than E. The simple logic is that there is no "answer" given to the question in the first place, so how could one argue that one answer is better with such trivial choices. It's like the chicken and the egg factor, which one came firstProve it And what is logic??..And if you do know, based on who's definition?...Presumable one that you were taught, which is opinion and biased anyway..So where does that leave you, back to square 1. "Priscilla Oppenheimer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It can't be F because E is true. E is the right answer. All the other answers produce at least one contradiction. Simple logic, Sherlock. ;-) Priscilla At 11:02 PM 3/11/01, Arthur Simplina wrote: My answer is F. None of the above. Reason: pure guess. It is better to guess than no answer. :D Arthur From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: O/T One question CID test Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:28:35 -0800 I saw something like this in Parade magazine in the Ask Marilyn article today. I thought it was funny (and thought-provoking). In a campus network design, you should recommend ATM LANE if your customer has A. All of the below B. None of the below C. All of the above D. One of the above E. None of the above F. None of the above Doesn't this sound like a CID test question? ;-) There is a right answer! Can you deduce what it is? Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: O/T One question CID test
because "B" is "One of Above" as compared to "D"??? Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: "Raoní" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 3:47 PM Subject: Re: O/T One question CID test So, why not "B"? - Original Message - From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 5:08 PM Subject: Re: O/T One question CID test It can't be F because E is true. E is the right answer. All the other answers produce at least one contradiction. Simple logic, Sherlock. ;-) Priscilla At 11:02 PM 3/11/01, Arthur Simplina wrote: My answer is F. None of the above. Reason: pure guess. It is better to guess than no answer. :D Arthur From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: O/T One question CID test Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:28:35 -0800 I saw something like this in Parade magazine in the Ask Marilyn article today. I thought it was funny (and thought-provoking). In a campus network design, you should recommend ATM LANE if your customer has A. All of the below B. None of the below C. All of the above D. One of the above E. None of the above F. None of the above Doesn't this sound like a CID test question? ;-) There is a right answer! Can you deduce what it is? Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: O/T One question CID test
But John, you've forgotten logic in your equation. If Priscilla says it's "E", then it's "E". Priscilla wrote the book on top-down network design! (-: -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Neiberger Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 2:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: O/T One question CID test F cannot be the correct answer because that would mean that E would also have to be true, but they both can't be true. g F excludes E due to a logical contradiction, but E can be true without causing any problems logically. Good post Priscilla! This is great preparation for the CID. :-) "The.Rock" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/12/01 2:19:36 PM With that kind of so called deductive reasoning, F would also be a correct answer. Here's the reason. E is negating all the above answers ( that is to say that A,B,C and D are wrong). Then F says that even E is wrong. So F covers all basis more so than E. The simple logic is that there is no "answer" given to the question in the first place, so how could one argue that one answer is better with such trivial choices. It's like the chicken and the egg factor, which one came firstProve it And what is logic??..And if you do know, based on who's definition?...Presumable one that you were taught, which is opinion and biased anyway..So where does that leave you, back to square 1. "Priscilla Oppenheimer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It can't be F because E is true. E is the right answer. All the other answers produce at least one contradiction. Simple logic, Sherlock. ;-) Priscilla At 11:02 PM 3/11/01, Arthur Simplina wrote: My answer is F. None of the above. Reason: pure guess. It is better to guess than no answer. :D Arthur From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: O/T One question CID test Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:28:35 -0800 I saw something like this in Parade magazine in the Ask Marilyn article today. I thought it was funny (and thought-provoking). In a campus network design, you should recommend ATM LANE if your customer has A. All of the below B. None of the below C. All of the above D. One of the above E. None of the above F. None of the above Doesn't this sound like a CID test question? ;-) There is a right answer! Can you deduce what it is? Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: O/T One question CID test
At 03:19 PM 3/12/01, The.Rock wrote: With that kind of so called deductive reasoning, F would also be a correct answer. Here's the reason. E is negating all the above answers ( that is to say that A,B,C and D are wrong). Then F says that even E is wrong. So F can't be right. F is wrong because it says that E is wrong, which isn't true. E is right! ;-) E is the only answer that doesn't result in a contradiction. So F covers all basis more so than E. Maybe it covers all bases, but it's wrong. Why did they bother adding F, someone asked? Just to be cruel, I think. ;-) Priscilla The simple logic is that there is no "answer" given to the question in the first place, so how could one argue that one answer is better with such trivial choices. It's like the chicken and the egg factor, which one came firstProve it And what is logic??..And if you do know, based on who's definition?...Presumable one that you were taught, which is opinion and biased anyway..So where does that leave you, back to square 1. "Priscilla Oppenheimer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It can't be F because E is true. E is the right answer. All the other answers produce at least one contradiction. Simple logic, Sherlock. ;-) Priscilla At 11:02 PM 3/11/01, Arthur Simplina wrote: My answer is F. None of the above. Reason: pure guess. It is better to guess than no answer. :D Arthur From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: O/T One question CID test Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:28:35 -0800 I saw something like this in Parade magazine in the Ask Marilyn article today. I thought it was funny (and thought-provoking). In a campus network design, you should recommend ATM LANE if your customer has A. All of the below B. None of the below C. All of the above D. One of the above E. None of the above F. None of the above Doesn't this sound like a CID test question? ;-) There is a right answer! Can you deduce what it is? Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: O/T One question CID test
But John, you've forgotten logic in your equation. If Priscilla says it's "E", then it's "E". Priscilla wrote the book on top-down network design! (-: -- Leigh Anne In the southern hemisphere, is this the book on bottom-up design? Context can be everything. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I mean really...define wrong...What is wrong??.. and in who's eyes is F wrong? Is it because so so called group said it was wrong??.. There is nothing wrong with contradiction...Look at Christopher Columbus...Contradictions inspire actions that of not so normal. It is that kind of thinking that led Albert Einstein to be the genius that he was "Priscilla Oppenheimer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... At 03:19 PM 3/12/01, The.Rock wrote: With that kind of so called deductive reasoning, F would also be a correct answer. Here's the reason. E is negating all the above answers ( that is to say that A,B,C and D are wrong). Then F says that even E is wrong. So F can't be right. F is wrong because it says that E is wrong, which isn't true. E is right! ;-) E is the only answer that doesn't result in a contradiction. So F covers all basis more so than E. Maybe it covers all bases, but it's wrong. Why did they bother adding F, someone asked? Just to be cruel, I think. ;-) Priscilla The simple logic is that there is no "answer" given to the question in the first place, so how could one argue that one answer is better with such trivial choices. It's like the chicken and the egg factor, which one came firstProve it And what is logic??..And if you do know, based on who's definition?...Presumable one that you were taught, which is opinion and biased anyway..So where does that leave you, back to square 1. "Priscilla Oppenheimer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It can't be F because E is true. E is the right answer. All the other answers produce at least one contradiction. Simple logic, Sherlock. ;-) Priscilla At 11:02 PM 3/11/01, Arthur Simplina wrote: My answer is F. None of the above. Reason: pure guess. It is better to guess than no answer. :D Arthur From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: O/T One question CID test Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:28:35 -0800 I saw something like this in Parade magazine in the Ask Marilyn article today. I thought it was funny (and thought-provoking). In a campus network design, you should recommend ATM LANE if your customer has A. All of the below B. None of the below C. All of the above D. One of the above E. None of the above F. None of the above Doesn't this sound like a CID test question? ;-) There is a right answer! Can you deduce what it is? Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: O/T One question CID test
42 E Words are the means by which we communicate our ideas. If you call it a widget as long as I know that a widget is X then that's fine. The definition of logic as the people who formally study the process would break it down to non-contradictory reasoning. Study of logic comes from Aristotle and it is the means by which we come to reasonable conclusions like... I know the device that is down must be beyond rtr2 because my workstation is getting an icmp response from rtr2. The devices in between me and rtr2 must be up because I am able to get to rtr2. (some assumptions here but you get this idea...think Venn diagrams.) The addition of these words may help... A. All of the statements below are true B. None of the statements below are true C. All of the above statements are true D. One of the above statements is true E. None of the above statements are true F. None of the above statements are true With that said, E is the correct answer because 1. A- cannot be true because you get a contradiction with your statement in B-. When you say "All of the below s.a.t." you are saying that BCDEF are true. But in B- "None of the below s.a.t." you are saying that CDEF are not true. So from here you getA- cannot be true (but note B can still be true.) 2. C- cannot be true because we have already stated that A is not true. 3. B- then becomes incorrect because we have already stated that C is not true and thus "None of the below s.a.t" cannot be true. 4. D- then cannot be true because we stated that A B C are not true and thus "One of the above s.a.t." cannot be true. 5. E- The statement E is correct that "None of the above statements are true." 6. F- You cannot say that "None of the statements above..." F are true because we just said that E was true. Kinda critical stuff when you are problem solving and it is going to cost you $$$ and/or time with each proposed solution. By what system of thinking do you use to evaluate the proposed solutions? or... just answer 42. "The.Rock" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/12/01 06:35PM I mean really...define wrong...What is wrong??.. and in who's eyes is F wrong? Is it because so so called group said it was wrong??.. There is nothing wrong with contradiction...Look at Christopher Columbus...Contradictions inspire actions that of not so normal. It is that kind of thinking that led Albert Einstein to be the genius that he was "Priscilla Oppenheimer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... At 03:19 PM 3/12/01, The.Rock wrote: With that kind of so called deductive reasoning, F would also be a correct answer. Here's the reason. E is negating all the above answers ( that is to say that A,B,C and D are wrong). Then F says that even E is wrong. So F can't be right. F is wrong because it says that E is wrong, which isn't true. E is right! ;-) E is the only answer that doesn't result in a contradiction. So F covers all basis more so than E. Maybe it covers all bases, but it's wrong. Why did they bother adding F, someone asked? Just to be cruel, I think. ;-) Priscilla The simple logic is that there is no "answer" given to the question in the first place, so how could one argue that one answer is better with such trivial choices. It's like the chicken and the egg factor, which one came firstProve it And what is logic??..And if you do know, based on who's definition?...Presumable one that you were taught, which is opinion and biased anyway..So where does that leave you, back to square 1. "Priscilla Oppenheimer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It can't be F because E is true. E is the right answer. All the other answers produce at least one contradiction. Simple logic, Sherlock. ;-) Priscilla At 11:02 PM 3/11/01, Arthur Simplina wrote: My answer is F. None of the above. Reason: pure guess. It is better to guess than no answer. :D Arthur From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: O/T One question CID test Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:28:35 -0800 I saw something like this in Parade magazine in the Ask Marilyn article today. I thought it was funny (and thought-provoking). In a campus network design, you should recommend ATM LANE if your customer has A. All of the below B. None of the below C. All of the above D. One of the above E. None of the above F. None of the above Doesn't this sound like a CID test question? ;-) There is a right answer! Can you deduce what it is? Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to
Re: O/T One question CID test
My answer is F. None of the above. Reason: pure guess. It is better to guess than no answer. :D Arthur From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: O/T One question CID test Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:28:35 -0800 I saw something like this in Parade magazine in the Ask Marilyn article today. I thought it was funny (and thought-provoking). In a campus network design, you should recommend ATM LANE if your customer has A. All of the below B. None of the below C. All of the above D. One of the above E. None of the above F. None of the above Doesn't this sound like a CID test question? ;-) There is a right answer! Can you deduce what it is? Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: O/T One question CID test
Well, hmmm, if you want me to deduce it I believe the answer would be "D" because in choosing that answer you give the question 3 possible statements to choose from. Hmmm, not sure if I even follow myself =o) Oh well, that's my answer... This has been an Eyez Only streaming e-mail broadcast...We are watching. NetEyez ~ CCNP, CCDA - Original Message - From: "Arthur Simplina" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 11:02 PM Subject: Re: O/T One question CID test My answer is F. None of the above. Reason: pure guess. It is better to guess than no answer. :D Arthur From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: O/T One question CID test Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:28:35 -0800 I saw something like this in Parade magazine in the Ask Marilyn article today. I thought it was funny (and thought-provoking). In a campus network design, you should recommend ATM LANE if your customer has A. All of the below B. None of the below C. All of the above D. One of the above E. None of the above F. None of the above Doesn't this sound like a CID test question? ;-) There is a right answer! Can you deduce what it is? Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: O/T One question CID test
Yes! That is a LOT like the CID questions! Wow My guess is E, but I'm not saying why just yet. I don't want to corrupt anyone else's thought processes. John I saw something like this in Parade magazine in the Ask Marilyn article today. I thought it was funny (and thought-provoking). In a campus network design, you should recommend ATM LANE if your customer has A. All of the below B. None of the below C. All of the above D. One of the above E. None of the above F. None of the above Doesn't this sound like a CID test question? ;-) There is a right answer! Can you deduce what it is? Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
