RE: Routing Exam 503 [7:31275]
The BSCN book you recommend, is that from the Prep Kit? Yes, now that I read the reviews on the cert kit on Amazon, amost every post complains that the books are chock full of errors. Maybe that's why its 96$ for 4 books, ha ha. I am hesitant to get it, maybe I can just borrow a friends book for a while. I bought the CCNP Training kit for the questions, it never worked right though, there is a patch for it (CCNPTKUpdate1.exe) on ciscopress site, but it doesn't download. I guess Cisco is good with routers, maybe not servers or applications for that matter. I don't know if this download ever worked, but if anyone has it, could you send it to me? TIA, Brian -Original Message- From: s vermill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 7:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Routing Exam 503 [7:31275] The Cisco Press BSCN book is great. I highly recommend it. Do all of the labs if you can. The Cert Guide, on the other hand, is outrageously full of errata. And when I say errata, I don't just mean misprints (althought there are tons of those as well). LSAs and aggregate addresses often are described as going in the wrong direction. For example, if I understand the RFC correctly, OSPF type 4 LSAs are generated by ABRs, sent into non-backbone areas, and describe the ASBRS that are available in the AS. In the Cert Guide, type 4 LSAs are sent from the ABRs to ASBRs. That is done, according to the Cert Guide, so that the ASBR can send info on summary networks into other routing domains. So on and so on. Worst part of all is that the book is in its fourth printing and nothing has been done to fix it and there is no errata sheet on the Cisco Press web site. Having said all of that, the book is still borderline useful, but only if you already really know your stuff so you can see the many errors. I also read the Exam Cram book. It is a nice review but is very top-level, as you might expect. By the way, it is a myth that COLT exams are gone. I just tried one the other day. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=31381t=31275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Routing Exam 503 [7:31275]
I used the following to pass all my Cisco tests: Boson practice test #1 for Exam 640-5xx $39.95 CiscoPress Certification Guide for Exam 640-5xx (Comes with electronic practice test) $60.00 can find for $40.00 or less is used CiscoPress Course Guide for Exam 640-5xx (Great background knowledge) $60.00 can find for $40.00 or less is used ExamCram for Exam 640-5xx $29.95 can find $22..00 or less if used Cramsession for Exam 640-5xx FREE!! If you can get through all of the above you should be able to pass any Cisco test. Not the cheapest any, but it worked for me. Off Topic: Best place to find books. www.bestbookbuys.com Searches twenty or more book sites including Used Book Sites. Great deals on used books. I have bought several used books and all appeared to be brand new. Through Complexity there is Simplicity, Through Simplicity there is Complexity David L. Blair - CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, CBE, A+, 3Wizard Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=31383t=31275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing Exam 503 [7:31275]
Brian, Yes, the Prep Library has all of the course books such as BSCN. The Cert Library has all of the Cert Guides. The CDs appear to work quite well and I thought it was pretty good practice. Regards, Scott Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=31454t=31275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing Exam 503 [7:31275]
The reason everyone shouts just use Cisco for the 503 exam is because the Cisco Press book exactly follows the Routing 503 exam blueprint. Every chapter in the Cisco Press book is one of the sections covered in the actual exam. You can pass the exam by just using this book. Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Brian Zeitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Routing Exam 503 [7:31275] I am studying for the routing exam. I am using Sybex book, I have heard it has a lot of mistakes, but that is why you should use more then 1 book. I have heard arguments for both the Cert Library and the Prep Library, if you look at the different book sites, it seems cert library sells more copies and comes with a CD. Www.bookpool.com has the entire set for 96$ US. I have not bought it yet though. I think a lot of people shout just use cisco when they actually used other books but don't want to reveal what they really used. Yea, colt is gone, but if you go to http://ciscoguide.net there is like 100 questions for CCNP routing there. I made them into PDFs and keep them on my palm pilot. There is a free study guide on cramsession.com, its not that great, but its free. I am disappointed at there CCNP question of the day, because they are from the 400 exam series, so outdated. I wish they would hire someone to write new questions. They are pretty much useless. Anyway, my suggestion is just use more then one source, that is what I do to cross reference to make sure there is no mistakes. I am the type of person that once I do a question, I remember it. So when I see it somewhere else, and its wrong I notice it. Well hope this help :-) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=31282t=31275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Routing Exam 503 [7:31275]
Which Cisco Press book or books do you recommend? Ko Haag Kaminski, Shawn G wrote: The reason everyone shouts just use Cisco for the 503 exam is because the Cisco Press book exactly follows the Routing 503 exam blueprint. Every chapter in the Cisco Press book is one of the sections covered in the actual exam. You can pass the exam by just using this book. Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Brian Zeitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Routing Exam 503 [7:31275] I am studying for the routing exam. I am using Sybex book, I have heard it has a lot of mistakes, but that is why you should use more then 1 book. I have heard arguments for both the Cert Library and the Prep Library, if you look at the different book sites, it seems cert library sells more copies and comes with a CD. Www.bookpool.com has the entire set for 96$ US. I have not bought it yet though. I think a lot of people shout just use cisco when they actually used other books but don't want to reveal what they really used. Yea, colt is gone, but if you go to http://ciscoguide.net there is like 100 questions for CCNP routing there. I made them into PDFs and keep them on my palm pilot. There is a free study guide on cramsession.com, its not that great, but its free. I am disappointed at there CCNP question of the day, because they are from the 400 exam series, so outdated. I wish they would hire someone to write new questions. They are pretty much useless. Anyway, my suggestion is just use more then one source, that is what I do to cross reference to make sure there is no mistakes. I am the type of person that once I do a question, I remember it. So when I see it somewhere else, and its wrong I notice it. Well hope this help :-) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=31290t=31275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing Exam 503 [7:31275]
Use the cisco books as the main reference and use Sybex and examcram few weeks before the exam to fresh up. That is what I did. Regards Jon Gudmundsson -Original Message- From: Brian Zeitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 8. janzar 2002 14:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Routing Exam 503 [7:31275] I am studying for the routing exam. I am using Sybex book, I have heard it has a lot of mistakes, but that is why you should use more then 1 book. I have heard arguments for both the Cert Library and the Prep Library, if you look at the different book sites, it seems cert library sells more copies and comes with a CD. Www.bookpool.com has the entire set for 96$ US. I have not bought it yet though. I think a lot of people shout just use cisco when they actually used other books but don't want to reveal what they really used. Yea, colt is gone, but if you go to http://ciscoguide.net there is like 100 questions for CCNP routing there. I made them into PDFs and keep them on my palm pilot. There is a free study guide on cramsession.com, its not that great, but its free. I am disappointed at there CCNP question of the day, because they are from the 400 exam series, so outdated. I wish they would hire someone to write new questions. They are pretty much useless. Anyway, my suggestion is just use more then one source, that is what I do to cross reference to make sure there is no mistakes. I am the type of person that once I do a question, I remember it. So when I see it somewhere else, and its wrong I notice it. Well hope this help :-) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=31292t=31275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing Exam 503 [7:31275]
For the Routing 503 exam, Building Scalable Cisco Networks by Catherine Paquet and Diane Teare. It's ISBN # 1578702283. For other Cisco Press books, go to www.ciscopress.com Shawn K. -Original Message- From: ko haag [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Routing Exam 503 [7:31275] Which Cisco Press book or books do you recommend? Ko Haag Kaminski, Shawn G wrote: The reason everyone shouts just use Cisco for the 503 exam is because the Cisco Press book exactly follows the Routing 503 exam blueprint. Every chapter in the Cisco Press book is one of the sections covered in the actual exam. You can pass the exam by just using this book. Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Brian Zeitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Routing Exam 503 [7:31275] I am studying for the routing exam. I am using Sybex book, I have heard it has a lot of mistakes, but that is why you should use more then 1 book. I have heard arguments for both the Cert Library and the Prep Library, if you look at the different book sites, it seems cert library sells more copies and comes with a CD. Www.bookpool.com has the entire set for 96$ US. I have not bought it yet though. I think a lot of people shout just use cisco when they actually used other books but don't want to reveal what they really used. Yea, colt is gone, but if you go to http://ciscoguide.net there is like 100 questions for CCNP routing there. I made them into PDFs and keep them on my palm pilot. There is a free study guide on cramsession.com, its not that great, but its free. I am disappointed at there CCNP question of the day, because they are from the 400 exam series, so outdated. I wish they would hire someone to write new questions. They are pretty much useless. Anyway, my suggestion is just use more then one source, that is what I do to cross reference to make sure there is no mistakes. I am the type of person that once I do a question, I remember it. So when I see it somewhere else, and its wrong I notice it. Well hope this help :-) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=31304t=31275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing Exam 503 [7:31275]
The Cisco Press BSCN book is great. I highly recommend it. Do all of the labs if you can. The Cert Guide, on the other hand, is outrageously full of errata. And when I say errata, I don't just mean misprints (althought there are tons of those as well). LSAs and aggregate addresses often are described as going in the wrong direction. For example, if I understand the RFC correctly, OSPF type 4 LSAs are generated by ABRs, sent into non-backbone areas, and describe the ASBRS that are available in the AS. In the Cert Guide, type 4 LSAs are sent from the ABRs to ASBRs. That is done, according to the Cert Guide, so that the ASBR can send info on summary networks into other routing domains. So on and so on. Worst part of all is that the book is in its fourth printing and nothing has been done to fix it and there is no errata sheet on the Cisco Press web site. Having said all of that, the book is still borderline useful, but only if you already really know your stuff so you can see the many errors. I also read the Exam Cram book. It is a nice review but is very top-level, as you might expect. By the way, it is a myth that COLT exams are gone. I just tried one the other day. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=31334t=31275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
