Re: Sniffer Recommendation [7:72372]

2003-07-16 Thread Nate
I actually want to see broadcast traffic.
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> span port is not a sniffer requirement, but one of the switch. switches
send
> unicast/multicast traffic out only the ports that it is destined to. so,
if
> you want to see anything other than straight broadcast traffic, span is
> required.
>
> charles
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> I need a sniffer that doesn't require spanning a port.  Any suggestions?




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Re: Sniffer Recommendation [7:72372]

2003-07-16 Thread M.C. van den Bovenkamp
Nate wrote:

> I actually want to see broadcast traffic.

In that case any analyzer will do. Just connect it to a port in the VLAN 
you want the broadcast traffic of.

Regards,

Marco.




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Re: Sniffer Recommendation [7:72372]

2003-07-16 Thread Kent Hundley
There are various tools to do this, as far as I know they all work based
on the ability to spoof arp replies.  Here are a few links:

http://monkey.org/~dugsong/dsniff/
(a host of tools for sniffing through various spoofing attacks)

http://www.phenoelit.de/fr/tools.html
(specifically just for arp spoofing although they have some other
interesting tools)

Be aware that if you have a busy network, some of these tools could
potentially be disruptive depending on how they are used.  Be also aware
that if you don't have authority to use these tools on the network in
question, using them is probably a good reason for termination of
employment.  

I don't recommend you use these tools unless you know what you are doing
_and_ you have explicit authorization from the network owner to use
them.  It's far better to just span the port or use VACL's. In other
words, use these tools at your own risk.

HTH,
Kent


On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 00:32, Nathan wrote:
> I need a sniffer that doesn't require spanning a port.  Any suggestions?




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RE: Sniffer Recommendation [7:72372]

2003-07-16 Thread Charles D Hammonds
span port is not a sniffer requirement, but one of the switch. switches send
unicast/multicast traffic out only the ports that it is destined to. so, if
you want to see anything other than straight broadcast traffic, span is
required.

charles

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I need a sniffer that doesn't require spanning a port.  Any suggestions?




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RE: Sniffer Recommendation [7:72372]

2003-07-16 Thread Joseph Brunner
Then You need a network without switches. Without the span
port, all unicast frames will only be forwarded to their correct
destination ports. 

Your sniffer will not "see" the traffic.

Using RMON/SNMP, its possible to poll some data directly from the switch,
such as statistics, etc. I don't know a way to use
snmp to tell the switch to "give me all frames for X flow".

A way around this is to put a hub between the switch and the
device being monitored (host, fw, router). Then plug your
"sniffer" into that hub. The hub is a repeater and will get all frames
to the sniffer.


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