Re: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]

2002-02-04 Thread Scott

I can't resist adding my .02.

There are people who seriously believe that man has never been in space. 
There are also people who seriously believe that the earth is flat and that 
we can fall off the edge. There are also some morons who think that the 
Holocaust never happened. Remember the saying You can fool all of the
people
some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but not all the people 
all the time. The 2nd phrase is speaking to these people.

Mildly amusing story that came to mind: I used to work in a tool and die 
shop. We had a sweeper who was a nice guy, but had a few burnt out light 
bulbs. We got him talking about gun control one time. I was taking the side 
of pro gun control and a friend across the shop was anti-gun control. My 
friend would convince him that gun control was a bad thing. Then the sweeper 
would come to me, we would chat for awhile and I would convince him my side 
was better. The sweeper returned to my friend to chat with him and repeat
the
process. After about 4 hours, the sweeper figured out what we were doing
when
we switched sides.

Don't be the sweeper Phil. You have better things to do with your time.



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 Just a thought...

 If they did not land on the moon - who placed the american flag there?

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 -Original Message-
 From: Phil Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:15 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]


 Sorry for this waste of b/w but I have two discening
 friends who keep insisting that man never went to the
 moon, instead it was a big stage act. The shadows are
 in the wrong place blah, blah, blah. Unfortunately
 they cannot expand on the shadow theory since they
 don't understand it themselves. They just Want to
 believe in an American etc conspiracy. G.

 My initial defence that Man has landed on the moon was
 based on the fact that Russia didn't make any
 complaints which I'm sure they would have done. This
 has been unfortunately dismissed by the same argument
 i.e propaganda, America etc would not allow the
 reporting of such info-.

 Okay, now I need Physics to help.
 My hunch is that the radio signal of the famous speech
 by Neil Armstrong would be sent on a certain frequency
 which could only be picked up by a receiver set to the
 same frequency, and it would be possible to calculate
 the distance from Neil to Earth. Not done physics for
 20 years so I'm struggling here.

 OR could this be simulated in a LAB to make the
 distance of Neil to Stage appear to be the distance to
 the moon ?

 Any other possibilities more than welcome to shut
 these muppets up.

 Phil.

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RE: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]

2002-01-29 Thread Michael Williams

Here is enough science and reason to shut up those fools that believe the
Fox special about landing on the moon:

(watch for wrap)

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

Mike W.



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Re: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]

2002-01-28 Thread Steven A. Ridder

Wait till moon tourist season begins in a decade or so, then look at the
plaque, flag and tire tracks/foot prints left by our previous visit.

Til then, build a powerful telescope/camera to look at above items.  :)
Phil Barker  wrote in message
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 Sorry for this waste of b/w but I have two discening
 friends who keep insisting that man never went to the
 moon, instead it was a big stage act. The shadows are
 in the wrong place blah, blah, blah. Unfortunately
 they cannot expand on the shadow theory since they
 don't understand it themselves. They just Want to
 believe in an American etc conspiracy. G.

 My initial defence that Man has landed on the moon was
 based on the fact that Russia didn't make any
 complaints which I'm sure they would have done. This
 has been unfortunately dismissed by the same argument
 i.e propaganda, America etc would not allow the
 reporting of such info-.

 Okay, now I need Physics to help.
 My hunch is that the radio signal of the famous speech
 by Neil Armstrong would be sent on a certain frequency
 which could only be picked up by a receiver set to the
 same frequency, and it would be possible to calculate
 the distance from Neil to Earth. Not done physics for
 20 years so I'm struggling here.

 OR could this be simulated in a LAB to make the
 distance of Neil to Stage appear to be the distance to
 the moon ?

 Any other possibilities more than welcome to shut
 these muppets up.

 Phil.

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RE: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]

2002-01-28 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

42

hth,

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-Original Message-
From: Phil Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]


Sorry for this waste of b/w but I have two discening
friends who keep insisting that man never went to the
moon, instead it was a big stage act. The shadows are
in the wrong place blah, blah, blah. Unfortunately
they cannot expand on the shadow theory since they
don't understand it themselves. They just Want to
believe in an American etc conspiracy. G.

My initial defence that Man has landed on the moon was
based on the fact that Russia didn't make any
complaints which I'm sure they would have done. This
has been unfortunately dismissed by the same argument
i.e propaganda, America etc would not allow the
reporting of such info-.

Okay, now I need Physics to help.
My hunch is that the radio signal of the famous speech
by Neil Armstrong would be sent on a certain frequency
which could only be picked up by a receiver set to the
same frequency, and it would be possible to calculate
the distance from Neil to Earth. Not done physics for
20 years so I'm struggling here.

OR could this be simulated in a LAB to make the
distance of Neil to Stage appear to be the distance to
the moon ?

Any other possibilities more than welcome to shut
these muppets up. 

Phil.

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RE: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]

2002-01-28 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Just a thought...

If they did not land on the moon - who placed the american flag there?

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Phil Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]


Sorry for this waste of b/w but I have two discening
friends who keep insisting that man never went to the
moon, instead it was a big stage act. The shadows are
in the wrong place blah, blah, blah. Unfortunately
they cannot expand on the shadow theory since they
don't understand it themselves. They just Want to
believe in an American etc conspiracy. G.

My initial defence that Man has landed on the moon was
based on the fact that Russia didn't make any
complaints which I'm sure they would have done. This
has been unfortunately dismissed by the same argument
i.e propaganda, America etc would not allow the
reporting of such info-.

Okay, now I need Physics to help.
My hunch is that the radio signal of the famous speech
by Neil Armstrong would be sent on a certain frequency
which could only be picked up by a receiver set to the
same frequency, and it would be possible to calculate
the distance from Neil to Earth. Not done physics for
20 years so I'm struggling here.

OR could this be simulated in a LAB to make the
distance of Neil to Stage appear to be the distance to
the moon ?

Any other possibilities more than welcome to shut
these muppets up. 

Phil.

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RE: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]

2002-01-28 Thread Patrick Ramsey

Is the flag really there.

hhh Inquiring minds want to know!

 Ole Drews Jensen  01/28/02 01:45PM 
Just a thought...

If they did not land on the moon - who placed the american flag there?

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Phil Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]


Sorry for this waste of b/w but I have two discening
friends who keep insisting that man never went to the
moon, instead it was a big stage act. The shadows are
in the wrong place blah, blah, blah. Unfortunately
they cannot expand on the shadow theory since they
don't understand it themselves. They just Want to
believe in an American etc conspiracy. G.

My initial defence that Man has landed on the moon was
based on the fact that Russia didn't make any
complaints which I'm sure they would have done. This
has been unfortunately dismissed by the same argument
i.e propaganda, America etc would not allow the
reporting of such info-.

Okay, now I need Physics to help.
My hunch is that the radio signal of the famous speech
by Neil Armstrong would be sent on a certain frequency
which could only be picked up by a receiver set to the
same frequency, and it would be possible to calculate
the distance from Neil to Earth. Not done physics for
20 years so I'm struggling here.

OR could this be simulated in a LAB to make the
distance of Neil to Stage appear to be the distance to
the moon ?

Any other possibilities more than welcome to shut
these muppets up. 

Phil.

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Re: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]

2002-01-28 Thread sam sneed

Your friends must have seen that special documentary that aired on TLC or
Discovery channel. It was pretty good and had me convinced too until I
realized I would have to be a fool to let one documentary make me question
our government. That would be a huge conspiracy and huge cover up that would
definitely be exposed in the future. May be 30-75 years in the future since
they landed but neverless it would ruin our governments credibility in all
historical claims we have made in the past if a cover up had been exposed.

Phil Barker  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Sorry for this waste of b/w but I have two discening
 friends who keep insisting that man never went to the
 moon, instead it was a big stage act. The shadows are
 in the wrong place blah, blah, blah. Unfortunately
 they cannot expand on the shadow theory since they
 don't understand it themselves. They just Want to
 believe in an American etc conspiracy. G.

 My initial defence that Man has landed on the moon was
 based on the fact that Russia didn't make any
 complaints which I'm sure they would have done. This
 has been unfortunately dismissed by the same argument
 i.e propaganda, America etc would not allow the
 reporting of such info-.

 Okay, now I need Physics to help.
 My hunch is that the radio signal of the famous speech
 by Neil Armstrong would be sent on a certain frequency
 which could only be picked up by a receiver set to the
 same frequency, and it would be possible to calculate
 the distance from Neil to Earth. Not done physics for
 20 years so I'm struggling here.

 OR could this be simulated in a LAB to make the
 distance of Neil to Stage appear to be the distance to
 the moon ?

 Any other possibilities more than welcome to shut
 these muppets up.

 Phil.

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RE: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]

2002-01-28 Thread Phil Barker

What magnification of telescope would I need though to
prove it. For as far as they are concerned its in a
studio etc, blah.

Phil.

 --- Ole Drews Jensen  wrote: 
Just a thought...
 
 If they did not land on the moon - who placed the
 american flag there?
 
 Ole
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Phil Barker
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:15 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ?
 [7:33465]
 
 
 Sorry for this waste of b/w but I have two discening
 friends who keep insisting that man never went to
 the
 moon, instead it was a big stage act. The shadows
 are
 in the wrong place blah, blah, blah. Unfortunately
 they cannot expand on the shadow theory since they
 don't understand it themselves. They just Want to
 believe in an American etc conspiracy. G.
 
 My initial defence that Man has landed on the moon
 was
 based on the fact that Russia didn't make any
 complaints which I'm sure they would have done. This
 has been unfortunately dismissed by the same
 argument
 i.e propaganda, America etc would not allow the
 reporting of such info-.
 
 Okay, now I need Physics to help.
 My hunch is that the radio signal of the famous
 speech
 by Neil Armstrong would be sent on a certain
 frequency
 which could only be picked up by a receiver set to
 the
 same frequency, and it would be possible to
 calculate
 the distance from Neil to Earth. Not done physics
 for
 20 years so I'm struggling here.
 
 OR could this be simulated in a LAB to make the
 distance of Neil to Stage appear to be the distance
 to
 the moon ?
 
 Any other possibilities more than welcome to shut
 these muppets up. 
 
 Phil.
 
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RE: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]

2002-01-28 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Is the moon really there, or is it an optical illusion created by former
pyramid residents now living on the planet Fryslak waiting to transmogrify
our world into a big bowl of risepudding?

Am I really here, or am I a lonely router misconfigured with an A.I. image?

Ole

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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]


Is the flag really there.

hhh Inquiring minds want to know!

 Ole Drews Jensen  01/28/02 01:45PM 
Just a thought...

If they did not land on the moon - who placed the american flag there?

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Phil Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]


Sorry for this waste of b/w but I have two discening
friends who keep insisting that man never went to the
moon, instead it was a big stage act. The shadows are
in the wrong place blah, blah, blah. Unfortunately
they cannot expand on the shadow theory since they
don't understand it themselves. They just Want to
believe in an American etc conspiracy. G.

My initial defence that Man has landed on the moon was
based on the fact that Russia didn't make any
complaints which I'm sure they would have done. This
has been unfortunately dismissed by the same argument
i.e propaganda, America etc would not allow the
reporting of such info-.

Okay, now I need Physics to help.
My hunch is that the radio signal of the famous speech
by Neil Armstrong would be sent on a certain frequency
which could only be picked up by a receiver set to the
same frequency, and it would be possible to calculate
the distance from Neil to Earth. Not done physics for
20 years so I'm struggling here.

OR could this be simulated in a LAB to make the
distance of Neil to Stage appear to be the distance to
the moon ?

Any other possibilities more than welcome to shut
these muppets up. 

Phil.

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Re: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]

2002-01-28 Thread sam sneed

Or are you really someone that didn't believe the hippy down the steet when
he told you not to mix acid with the mushrooms he sold you

Ole Drews Jensen  wrote in message
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 Is the moon really there, or is it an optical illusion created by former
 pyramid residents now living on the planet Fryslak waiting to transmogrify
 our world into a big bowl of risepudding?

 Am I really here, or am I a lonely router misconfigured with an A.I.
image?

 Ole

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 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:09 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]


 Is the flag really there.

 hhh Inquiring minds want to know!

  Ole Drews Jensen  01/28/02 01:45PM 
 Just a thought...

 If they did not land on the moon - who placed the american flag there?

 Ole

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 -Original Message-
 From: Phil Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:15 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]


 Sorry for this waste of b/w but I have two discening
 friends who keep insisting that man never went to the
 moon, instead it was a big stage act. The shadows are
 in the wrong place blah, blah, blah. Unfortunately
 they cannot expand on the shadow theory since they
 don't understand it themselves. They just Want to
 believe in an American etc conspiracy. G.

 My initial defence that Man has landed on the moon was
 based on the fact that Russia didn't make any
 complaints which I'm sure they would have done. This
 has been unfortunately dismissed by the same argument
 i.e propaganda, America etc would not allow the
 reporting of such info-.

 Okay, now I need Physics to help.
 My hunch is that the radio signal of the famous speech
 by Neil Armstrong would be sent on a certain frequency
 which could only be picked up by a receiver set to the
 same frequency, and it would be possible to calculate
 the distance from Neil to Earth. Not done physics for
 20 years so I'm struggling here.

 OR could this be simulated in a LAB to make the
 distance of Neil to Stage appear to be the distance to
 the moon ?

 Any other possibilities more than welcome to shut
 these muppets up.

 Phil.

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Re: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]

2002-01-28 Thread Steven A. Ridder

Tell your friends it called faith.  It's a belief in something without being
able to prove or disprove it.  And if they don't believe it, then that's
their prerogative.  (Although, with the correct amount of cash, you can get
there and see for yourself, unlike proving the existence of a greater
being/deity).  Ole Drews Jensen is right, why do they even believe the moon
exists.  Or that the earth is round or that we revolve around the sun and
not vice-versa.

The best bet in getting a telescope to see the stuff on the moon is to get a
satellite to orbit the moon, like the ones we have in orbit in earth that
can take 1 m pictures.  It's do-able and reasonably cheap in term of space
exploration.

sam sneed  wrote in message
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 Or are you really someone that didn't believe the hippy down the steet
when
 he told you not to mix acid with the mushrooms he sold you

 Ole Drews Jensen  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Is the moon really there, or is it an optical illusion created by former
  pyramid residents now living on the planet Fryslak waiting to
transmogrify
  our world into a big bowl of risepudding?
 
  Am I really here, or am I a lonely router misconfigured with an A.I.
 image?
 
  Ole
 
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  From: Patrick Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:09 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]
 
 
  Is the flag really there.
 
  hhh Inquiring minds want to know!
 
   Ole Drews Jensen  01/28/02 01:45PM 
  Just a thought...
 
  If they did not land on the moon - who placed the american flag there?
 
  Ole
 
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  -Original Message-
  From: Phil Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:15 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]
 
 
  Sorry for this waste of b/w but I have two discening
  friends who keep insisting that man never went to the
  moon, instead it was a big stage act. The shadows are
  in the wrong place blah, blah, blah. Unfortunately
  they cannot expand on the shadow theory since they
  don't understand it themselves. They just Want to
  believe in an American etc conspiracy. G.
 
  My initial defence that Man has landed on the moon was
  based on the fact that Russia didn't make any
  complaints which I'm sure they would have done. This
  has been unfortunately dismissed by the same argument
  i.e propaganda, America etc would not allow the
  reporting of such info-.
 
  Okay, now I need Physics to help.
  My hunch is that the radio signal of the famous speech
  by Neil Armstrong would be sent on a certain frequency
  which could only be picked up by a receiver set to the
  same frequency, and it would be possible to calculate
  the distance from Neil to Earth. Not done physics for
  20 years so I'm struggling here.
 
  OR could this be simulated in a LAB to make the
  distance of Neil to Stage appear to be the distance to
  the moon ?
 
  Any other possibilities more than welcome to shut
  these muppets up.
 
  Phil.
 
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RE: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]

2002-01-28 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

How about this one:

My theory is that there is no gravity. Everything is growing with the same
speed. You can't see it or meassure it, because everything, even your ruler,
is growing with the same speed. The light speed is also growing, so the
speed of light is actually getting faster, but you don't know it.

When you drop a ball and it hits the floor and bounces back up, it's
actually keeping its position, but the earth and everything on it and around
it are growing, so the floor is actually hitting the ball and not the other
way around.

Prove me wrong :-)

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]


Tell your friends it called faith.  It's a belief in something without being
able to prove or disprove it.  And if they don't believe it, then that's
their prerogative.  (Although, with the correct amount of cash, you can get
there and see for yourself, unlike proving the existence of a greater
being/deity).  Ole Drews Jensen is right, why do they even believe the moon
exists.  Or that the earth is round or that we revolve around the sun and
not vice-versa.

The best bet in getting a telescope to see the stuff on the moon is to get a
satellite to orbit the moon, like the ones we have in orbit in earth that
can take 1 m pictures.  It's do-able and reasonably cheap in term of space
exploration.

sam sneed  wrote in message
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 Or are you really someone that didn't believe the hippy down the steet
when
 he told you not to mix acid with the mushrooms he sold you

 Ole Drews Jensen  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Is the moon really there, or is it an optical illusion created by former
  pyramid residents now living on the planet Fryslak waiting to
transmogrify
  our world into a big bowl of risepudding?
 
  Am I really here, or am I a lonely router misconfigured with an A.I.
 image?
 
  Ole
 
  ~~~
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   CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
   RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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  -Original Message-
  From: Patrick Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:09 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]
 
 
  Is the flag really there.
 
  hhh Inquiring minds want to know!
 
   Ole Drews Jensen  01/28/02 01:45PM 
  Just a thought...
 
  If they did not land on the moon - who placed the american flag there?
 
  Ole
 
  ~~~
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   Systems Network Manager
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   RWR Enterprises, Inc.
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  -Original Message-
  From: Phil Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:15 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]
 
 
  Sorry for this waste of b/w but I have two discening
  friends who keep insisting that man never went to the
  moon, instead it was a big stage act. The shadows are
  in the wrong place blah, blah, blah. Unfortunately
  they cannot expand on the shadow theory since they
  don't understand it themselves. They just Want to
  believe in an American etc conspiracy. G.
 
  My initial defence that Man has landed on the moon was
  based on the fact that Russia didn't make any
  complaints which I'm sure they would have done. This
  has been unfortunately dismissed by the same argument
  i.e propaganda, America etc would not allow the
  reporting of such info-.
 
  Okay, now I need Physics to help.
  My hunch is that the radio signal of the famous speech
  by Neil Armstrong would be sent on a certain frequency
  which could only be picked up by a receiver set to the
  same frequency, and it would be possible to calculate
  the distance from Neil to Earth. Not done physics for
  20 years so I'm struggling here.
 
  OR could this be simulated in a LAB to make the
  distance of Neil to Stage appear to be the distance to
  the moon ?
 
  Any other possibilities more than welcome to shut
  these muppets up.
 
  Phil.
 
  

RE: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]

2002-01-28 Thread Hartnell, George

The flag is there.  The last great president said we'd put it there.

And we did.

Best, G.
VP OGC




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Re: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]

2002-01-28 Thread Gaz

There are those that say that Faith is just Brainwashing.

At least that's what my parents drummed in to me from an early age :-)

Gaz

Steven A. Ridder  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Tell your friends it called faith.  It's a belief in something without
being
 able to prove or disprove it.  And if they don't believe it, then that's
 their prerogative.  (Although, with the correct amount of cash, you can
get
 there and see for yourself, unlike proving the existence of a greater
 being/deity).  Ole Drews Jensen is right, why do they even believe the
moon
 exists.  Or that the earth is round or that we revolve around the sun and
 not vice-versa.

 The best bet in getting a telescope to see the stuff on the moon is to get
a
 satellite to orbit the moon, like the ones we have in orbit in earth that
 can take 1 m pictures.  It's do-able and reasonably cheap in term of space
 exploration.

 sam sneed  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Or are you really someone that didn't believe the hippy down the steet
 when
  he told you not to mix acid with the mushrooms he sold you
 
  Ole Drews Jensen  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Is the moon really there, or is it an optical illusion created by
former
   pyramid residents now living on the planet Fryslak waiting to
 transmogrify
   our world into a big bowl of risepudding?
  
   Am I really here, or am I a lonely router misconfigured with an A.I.
  image?
  
   Ole
  
   ~~~
Ole Drews Jensen
Systems Network Manager
CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
RWR Enterprises, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   -Original Message-
   From: Patrick Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:09 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]
  
  
   Is the flag really there.
  
   hhh Inquiring minds want to know!
  
Ole Drews Jensen  01/28/02 01:45PM 
   Just a thought...
  
   If they did not land on the moon - who placed the american flag there?
  
   Ole
  
   ~~~
Ole Drews Jensen
Systems Network Manager
CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
RWR Enterprises, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   -Original Message-
   From: Phil Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:15 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]
  
  
   Sorry for this waste of b/w but I have two discening
   friends who keep insisting that man never went to the
   moon, instead it was a big stage act. The shadows are
   in the wrong place blah, blah, blah. Unfortunately
   they cannot expand on the shadow theory since they
   don't understand it themselves. They just Want to
   believe in an American etc conspiracy. G.
  
   My initial defence that Man has landed on the moon was
   based on the fact that Russia didn't make any
   complaints which I'm sure they would have done. This
   has been unfortunately dismissed by the same argument
   i.e propaganda, America etc would not allow the
   reporting of such info-.
  
   Okay, now I need Physics to help.
   My hunch is that the radio signal of the famous speech
   by Neil Armstrong would be sent on a certain frequency
   which could only be picked up by a receiver set to the
   same frequency, and it would be possible to calculate
   the distance from Neil to Earth. Not done physics for
   20 years so I'm struggling here.
  
   OR could this be simulated in a LAB to make the
   distance of Neil to Stage appear to be the distance to
   the moon ?
  
   Any other possibilities more than welcome to shut
   these muppets up.
  
   Phil.
  
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Re: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]

2002-01-28 Thread David L. Blair

Well, I am old enough, forty next month, to remember the Live broadcast
from the moon or least alleged Live broadcast.

When I was in first grade my school turned on the TV during lunch and we
were allowed to watch the Moon broadcast.  This is very flimsy evidence, but
I have to this date seen a broadcast of that quality, effects, or nature
since.

This concept was made into a movie Capricorn Down starring James Brolin.


Through Complexity there is Simplicity,
   Through Simplicity there is Complexity

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Phil Barker  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Sorry for this waste of b/w but I have two discening
 friends who keep insisting that man never went to the
 moon, instead it was a big stage act. The shadows are
 in the wrong place blah, blah, blah. Unfortunately
 they cannot expand on the shadow theory since they
 don't understand it themselves. They just Want to
 believe in an American etc conspiracy. G.

 My initial defence that Man has landed on the moon was
 based on the fact that Russia didn't make any
 complaints which I'm sure they would have done. This
 has been unfortunately dismissed by the same argument
 i.e propaganda, America etc would not allow the
 reporting of such info-.

 Okay, now I need Physics to help.
 My hunch is that the radio signal of the famous speech
 by Neil Armstrong would be sent on a certain frequency
 which could only be picked up by a receiver set to the
 same frequency, and it would be possible to calculate
 the distance from Neil to Earth. Not done physics for
 20 years so I'm struggling here.

 OR could this be simulated in a LAB to make the
 distance of Neil to Stage appear to be the distance to
 the moon ?

 Any other possibilities more than welcome to shut
 these muppets up.

 Phil.

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RE: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]

2002-01-28 Thread Baety Wayne A1C 18 CS/SCBX

Because there aren't any stories of balls hitting airplanes in China.

WAYNE BAETY, MCSE, A1C, USAF
Network Systems Trainer


 -Original Message-
 From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 5:21 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]
 
 How about this one:
 
 My theory is that there is no gravity. Everything is growing with the same
 speed. You can't see it or meassure it, because everything, even your
 ruler,
 is growing with the same speed. The light speed is also growing, so the
 speed of light is actually getting faster, but you don't know it.
 
 When you drop a ball and it hits the floor and bounces back up, it's
 actually keeping its position, but the earth and everything on it and
 around
 it are growing, so the floor is actually hitting the ball and not the
 other
 way around.
 
 Prove me wrong :-)
 
 Ole
 
 ~~~
  Ole Drews Jensen
  Systems Network Manager
  CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ~~~
  http://www.RouterChief.com
 ~~~
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 -Original Message-
 From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:45 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]
 
 
 Tell your friends it called faith.  It's a belief in something without
 being
 able to prove or disprove it.  And if they don't believe it, then that's
 their prerogative.  (Although, with the correct amount of cash, you can
 get
 there and see for yourself, unlike proving the existence of a greater
 being/deity).  Ole Drews Jensen is right, why do they even believe the
 moon
 exists.  Or that the earth is round or that we revolve around the sun and
 not vice-versa.
 
 The best bet in getting a telescope to see the stuff on the moon is to get
 a
 satellite to orbit the moon, like the ones we have in orbit in earth that
 can take 1 m pictures.  It's do-able and reasonably cheap in term of space
 exploration.
 
 sam sneed  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Or are you really someone that didn't believe the hippy down the steet
 when
  he told you not to mix acid with the mushrooms he sold you
 
  Ole Drews Jensen  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Is the moon really there, or is it an optical illusion created by
 former
   pyramid residents now living on the planet Fryslak waiting to
 transmogrify
   our world into a big bowl of risepudding?
  
   Am I really here, or am I a lonely router misconfigured with an A.I.
  image?
  
   Ole
  
   ~~~
Ole Drews Jensen
Systems Network Manager
CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
RWR Enterprises, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   ~~~
http://www.RouterChief.com
   ~~~
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   -Original Message-
   From: Patrick Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:09 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]
  
  
   Is the flag really there.
  
   hhh Inquiring minds want to know!
  
Ole Drews Jensen  01/28/02 01:45PM 
   Just a thought...
  
   If they did not land on the moon - who placed the american flag there?
  
   Ole
  
   ~~~
Ole Drews Jensen
Systems Network Manager
CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
RWR Enterprises, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   -Original Message-
   From: Phil Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:15 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]
  
  
   Sorry for this waste of b/w but I have two discening
   friends who keep insisting that man never went to the
   moon, instead it was a big stage act. The shadows are
   in the wrong place blah, blah, blah. Unfortunately
   they cannot expand on the shadow theory since they
   don't understand it themselves. They just Want to
   believe in an American etc conspiracy. G.
  
   My initial defence that Man has landed on the moon was
   based on the fact that Russia didn't make any
   complaints which I'm sure they would have done. This
   has been unfortunately dismissed by the same argument
   i.e propaganda, America etc would not allow the
   reporting of such info-.
  
   Okay, now I need Physics to help.
   My hunch is that the radio signal of the 

Re: Totally OT : Was there a man on the moon ? [7:33465]

2002-01-28 Thread nettable_walker

1/28/2002   8:55pm  Monday

The theory has been around for a while that men did not really go to the
moon.

The sad thing is the taxpayers sure got stuck with a huge bill for nothing !
(even if men did go to the moon the bill was still for nothing).
What became of all the overpriced equipment that was used to fake us in to
believing men went to the moon?
Dumped in the ocean ?

$500 million per space shuttle mission.
I wish they would just lye about that  bill us $250 million six times a
year.  That would save us 1.5 billion $ per year.

Keep working !!!  Your government is spending your $$$ much faster than you
earn it.


Richard

//



Phil Barker  wrote in message
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 Sorry for this waste of b/w but I have two discening
 friends who keep insisting that man never went to the
 moon, instead it was a big stage act. The shadows are
 in the wrong place blah, blah, blah. Unfortunately
 they cannot expand on the shadow theory since they
 don't understand it themselves. They just Want to
 believe in an American etc conspiracy. G.

 My initial defence that Man has landed on the moon was
 based on the fact that Russia didn't make any
 complaints which I'm sure they would have done. This
 has been unfortunately dismissed by the same argument
 i.e propaganda, America etc would not allow the
 reporting of such info-.

 Okay, now I need Physics to help.
 My hunch is that the radio signal of the famous speech
 by Neil Armstrong would be sent on a certain frequency
 which could only be picked up by a receiver set to the
 same frequency, and it would be possible to calculate
 the distance from Neil to Earth. Not done physics for
 20 years so I'm struggling here.

 OR could this be simulated in a LAB to make the
 distance of Neil to Stage appear to be the distance to
 the moon ?

 Any other possibilities more than welcome to shut
 these muppets up.

 Phil.

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