RE: VLSM Problem

2000-10-24 Thread Byerly, Ted

I should have added more info.  All the clients are configured in our org
properly.  Some clients are on diff subnets with diff masks, others are on
the same vlsm with its appropriate subnet mask.  some stations ping the
clients while others cannot, however the clients can be ping'd from other
stations.

and I did search the archives, any help would be appreciated

Ted Byerly
System Support Analyst
San Bernardino County Sheriff
909-387-3749


-Original Message-
From: Irwin Lazar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 9:27 AM
To: 'Byerly, Ted'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: VLSM Problem


Most times that I've seen this type of thing, it ends being a mis-configured
subnet mask on the remote workstation.  Verify that the machine that you are
trying to ping is properly configured.

irwin

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 -Original Message-
 From: Byerly, Ted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 12:16 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: VLSM Problem
 
 
 Ok at the risk of being flamed I will post this question.  We have
 implemented a VLSM and also have some subnets left over from 
 our previous
 config.  We are having intermittent problems reaching hosts 
 both within and
 outside the vlsm.  During troubleshooting if I ping a client 
 by IP I get a
 time out error, if I try from another machine on the same or different
 subnet it also times out.  But going to a third client , they 
 are able to
 ping this machine.  This occurs to different machines at 
 different times and
 different subnets. The client is functioning properly for the user.
 
 My major question is are there known problems with vlsm and 
 connectivity
 issues or could our router be not configured properly.  I am the lowly
 server guy and the "network" guy refuses to believe the 
 problem is related
 to vlsm, however we have never experienced this before
 
 Ted 
 
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RE: VLSM Problem

2000-10-24 Thread Brant Stevens

You need to be more specific...  We would need to know what the masks are on
the various subnets, both working, and not working...  what are the
addresses and masks on the WS that are able to communicate...

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Byerly, Ted
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 12:49 PM
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Subject: RE: VLSM Problem


I should have added more info.  All the clients are configured in our org
properly.  Some clients are on diff subnets with diff masks, others are on
the same vlsm with its appropriate subnet mask.  some stations ping the
clients while others cannot, however the clients can be ping'd from other
stations.

and I did search the archives, any help would be appreciated

Ted Byerly
System Support Analyst
San Bernardino County Sheriff
909-387-3749


-Original Message-
From: Irwin Lazar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 9:27 AM
To: 'Byerly, Ted'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: VLSM Problem


Most times that I've seen this type of thing, it ends being a mis-configured
subnet mask on the remote workstation.  Verify that the machine that you are
trying to ping is properly configured.

irwin

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 -Original Message-
 From: Byerly, Ted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 12:16 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: VLSM Problem


 Ok at the risk of being flamed I will post this question.  We have
 implemented a VLSM and also have some subnets left over from
 our previous
 config.  We are having intermittent problems reaching hosts
 both within and
 outside the vlsm.  During troubleshooting if I ping a client
 by IP I get a
 time out error, if I try from another machine on the same or different
 subnet it also times out.  But going to a third client , they
 are able to
 ping this machine.  This occurs to different machines at
 different times and
 different subnets. The client is functioning properly for the user.

 My major question is are there known problems with vlsm and
 connectivity
 issues or could our router be not configured properly.  I am the lowly
 server guy and the "network" guy refuses to believe the
 problem is related
 to vlsm, however we have never experienced this before

 Ted

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Re: VLSM Problem

2000-10-24 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

Ted you cant troubleshoot vlsm without configs.
Some things to remember are subnets are different networks, and need a
router.
VLSM is just a way to effectively use available address space. But they are
still subnets and need to be routed.
1. Find out if you can ping local addresses.
2. Find out if you can ping remote addresses and which ones.
2a. Routes have to be coming and going.
3. Also which type of routes do you have. Static/Default/Dynamic
4. Which type of routing protocols are you using. Distance Vector won't
work.
5. What do you care! If you are just the "Server Guy" if your services are
running then your done. Let the "Networking Guy" figure it out.
You ain't getting paid to do it. We on the list are not getting paid to
trouble shoot major VLSM problems either. This is more a group study/help
site.
Duck
- Original Message -
From: Byerly, Ted [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 9:49 AM
Subject: RE: VLSM Problem


 I should have added more info.  All the clients are configured in our org
 properly.  Some clients are on diff subnets with diff masks, others are on
 the same vlsm with its appropriate subnet mask.  some stations ping the
 clients while others cannot, however the clients can be ping'd from other
 stations.

 and I did search the archives, any help would be appreciated

 Ted Byerly
 System Support Analyst
 San Bernardino County Sheriff
 909-387-3749


 -Original Message-
 From: Irwin Lazar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 9:27 AM
 To: 'Byerly, Ted'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: VLSM Problem


 Most times that I've seen this type of thing, it ends being a
mis-configured
 subnet mask on the remote workstation.  Verify that the machine that you
are
 trying to ping is properly configured.

 irwin

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 The Burton Group - http://www.tbg.com/
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 phone: 703-742-9659

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  -Original Message-
  From: Byerly, Ted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 12:16 PM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: VLSM Problem
 
 
  Ok at the risk of being flamed I will post this question.  We have
  implemented a VLSM and also have some subnets left over from
  our previous
  config.  We are having intermittent problems reaching hosts
  both within and
  outside the vlsm.  During troubleshooting if I ping a client
  by IP I get a
  time out error, if I try from another machine on the same or different
  subnet it also times out.  But going to a third client , they
  are able to
  ping this machine.  This occurs to different machines at
  different times and
  different subnets. The client is functioning properly for the user.
 
  My major question is are there known problems with vlsm and
  connectivity
  issues or could our router be not configured properly.  I am the lowly
  server guy and the "network" guy refuses to believe the
  problem is related
  to vlsm, however we have never experienced this before
 
  Ted
 
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RE: VLSM Problem

2000-10-24 Thread Irwin Lazar

Most times that I've seen this type of thing, it ends being a mis-configured
subnet mask on the remote workstation.  Verify that the machine that you are
trying to ping is properly configured.

irwin

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phone: 703-742-9659
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Byerly, Ted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 12:16 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: VLSM Problem
 
 
 Ok at the risk of being flamed I will post this question.  We have
 implemented a VLSM and also have some subnets left over from 
 our previous
 config.  We are having intermittent problems reaching hosts 
 both within and
 outside the vlsm.  During troubleshooting if I ping a client 
 by IP I get a
 time out error, if I try from another machine on the same or different
 subnet it also times out.  But going to a third client , they 
 are able to
 ping this machine.  This occurs to different machines at 
 different times and
 different subnets. The client is functioning properly for the user.
 
 My major question is are there known problems with vlsm and 
 connectivity
 issues or could our router be not configured properly.  I am the lowly
 server guy and the "network" guy refuses to believe the 
 problem is related
 to vlsm, however we have never experienced this before
 
 Ted 
 
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Re: VLSM Problem

2000-10-24 Thread Frank Wells

If you ping the clients by hostname are the name-servers responding with the 
correct ip addresses, even though they are timing out finding them?

Sounds like a name resolution or browser related issue based on what little 
info you have posted.

More info like whether you are using switches or hubs, what client OS is 
running, are there multiple VLANS and your name resolution methods would be 
helpful.

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Subject: VLSM Problem
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:16:23 -0700

Ok at the risk of being flamed I will post this question.  We have
implemented a VLSM and also have some subnets left over from our previous
config.  We are having intermittent problems reaching hosts both within and
outside the vlsm.  During troubleshooting if I ping a client by IP I get a
time out error, if I try from another machine on the same or different
subnet it also times out.  But going to a third client , they are able to
ping this machine.  This occurs to different machines at different times 
and
different subnets. The client is functioning properly for the user.

My major question is are there known problems with vlsm and connectivity
issues or could our router be not configured properly.  I am the lowly
server guy and the "network" guy refuses to believe the problem is related
to vlsm, however we have never experienced this before

Ted

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