Re: You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . . .

2000-08-23 Thread Erik

A couple years ago I was investigating a problem with high CPU utilization
on a farm of 7500's at a very large wall street brokerage, (thank god it was
saturday), things were pointing to excessive UDP traffic. So it seemed like
a good idea to get a quick dump of the traffic details by logging the output
of debugging UDP. Believe it or not, I was not recovering from a major head
injury. Maybe a brain cloud...
It earned me the nickname "the debug kid". I still haven't heard the end of
it.

Erik Mintz

- Original Message -
From: Ben Lovegrove [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 3:19 AM
Subject: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . . ."


| (tongue firmly in cheek)
|
| I have this theory that you can call yourself and internetworking
| engineer when . . . .
|
| 1.  You have run a debug command on a customer router while
| investigating a performance problem, or perhaps a security issue, and
| you have caused the CPU to exceed 100% and the router has hung/crashed.
|
| 2.  You have edited an ACL remotely and reapplied it only to find you
| have blocked all traffic including telnet from your desk and you are
| now locked out.
|
| 3.  In both of the above scenarios you have made up some story for the
| Help Desk/1st Line Support and asked them to get the customer to reboot
| the router, claiming that "a reboot may help the performance problem .
| . blah . . blah"
|
| 4.  In each of points 1  2 the customer in question is a major account
| that has threatened legal action against your company for failing to
| maintain SLAs, or to close the account altogether.
|
| Does this sound familiar to anyone?  Have you every felt that cold
| feeling in the pit of your stomach when you entered a command and the
| screen froze?  Did you blame hardware/software/customer/gremlins i.e.
| anybody and anything but not yourself?
|
| ;-)
|
| Ben
|
|
|
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Re: You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . . .

2000-08-23 Thread Erik

A couple years ago I was investigating a problem with high CPU utilization
on a farm of 7500's at a very large wall street brokerage, (thank god it was
saturday), things were pointing to excessive UDP traffic. So it seemed like
a good idea to get a quick dump of the traffic details by logging the output
of debugging UDP. Believe it or not, I was not recovering from a major head
injury. Maybe a brain cloud...
It earned me the nickname "the debug kid". I still haven't heard the end of
it.

Erik Mintz


- Original Message -
From: Ben Lovegrove [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 3:19 AM
Subject: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . . ."


| (tongue firmly in cheek)
|
| I have this theory that you can call yourself and internetworking
| engineer when . . . .
|
| 1.  You have run a debug command on a customer router while
| investigating a performance problem, or perhaps a security issue, and
| you have caused the CPU to exceed 100% and the router has hung/crashed.
|
| 2.  You have edited an ACL remotely and reapplied it only to find you
| have blocked all traffic including telnet from your desk and you are
| now locked out.
|
| 3.  In both of the above scenarios you have made up some story for the
| Help Desk/1st Line Support and asked them to get the customer to reboot
| the router, claiming that "a reboot may help the performance problem .
| . blah . . blah"
|
| 4.  In each of points 1  2 the customer in question is a major account
| that has threatened legal action against your company for failing to
| maintain SLAs, or to close the account altogether.
|
| Does this sound familiar to anyone?  Have you every felt that cold
| feeling in the pit of your stomach when you entered a command and the
| screen froze?  Did you blame hardware/software/customer/gremlins i.e.
| anybody and anything but not yourself?
|
| ;-)
|
| Ben
|
|
|
| =
| Ben Lovegrove, CCNP
| Redspan Solutions Ltd
| http://www.redspan.com
| Cisco: Products, Training, Jobs, Study Guides, Resources.



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RE: You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . . .

2000-08-22 Thread Hitt, Jason

Has anyone ever added a static route only to find out that the route is not
in the route table nor is the customers routes? I usually blame it on bad
memory, reboot and it works. I know I did it right but you still feel like
an ass. 

Jason Hitt
MCSE+I, CNA, CCNA, CCDA, A+, Network + 

-Original Message-
From: McMasters, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 10:57 AM
To: 'Cohen, Michael'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when .
. . ."


That also falls in-line with when we wanted to see what "debug all" would do
on the core router.  After about a minute of continuous logging messages it
just stopped working.  Again we had to reboot the router and we were somehow
able to blame it on the server guys!  "Sir, the NT servers were generating
excessive broadcasts which filled the routers buffers and forced it to shut
down.  You know Sir you really should talk to those server guys about
configuring their equipment right."  Ah the good ole' days, huh Mike!!!

Eric L. McMasters, CCNP/CCDA
OSSN - Sr. Network Engineer

Phone:913.859.1986
PCS:913.485.9734
Fax: 913.859.1234


-Original Message-
From: Cohen, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 8:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when .
. . ."


Too funny.  I can think of one incident about 4 years back when I was in the
military and we didn't know anything about configuring cisco equipment.  A
friend of mine who lurks on this list like me (you know who you are Eric)
and myself were trying to play a prank on a fellow co-worker and block
traffic on his computer.  We thought of an ACL to block his IP address but
he was smart enough to change it if we did that.  So we settled on creating
a filter by mac address.  The problem was we couldn't apply it to the
interface so after a little reading we figured the interface needed to be in
a bridge group to apply this ACL.  Now, this interface was serving our
entire building which was the Communications Squadron for the base.
Needless to say when when everyone in the building started yelling we
rebooted it and blamed it on a software crash on the router (hey these
things happen:)...

Michael Cohen
CCDP, CCNP
CCIE #6080

-Original Message-
From: Ben Lovegrove [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 12:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . .
."


(tongue firmly in cheek)

I have this theory that you can call yourself and internetworking
engineer when . . . .

1.  You have run a debug command on a customer router while
investigating a performance problem, or perhaps a security issue, and
you have caused the CPU to exceed 100% and the router has hung/crashed.

2.  You have edited an ACL remotely and reapplied it only to find you
have blocked all traffic including telnet from your desk and you are
now locked out.  

3.  In both of the above scenarios you have made up some story for the
Help Desk/1st Line Support and asked them to get the customer to reboot
the router, claiming that "a reboot may help the performance problem .
. blah . . blah"

4.  In each of points 1  2 the customer in question is a major account
that has threatened legal action against your company for failing to
maintain SLAs, or to close the account altogether.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?  Have you every felt that cold
feeling in the pit of your stomach when you entered a command and the
screen froze?  Did you blame hardware/software/customer/gremlins i.e.
anybody and anything but not yourself?

;-)

Ben



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RE: You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . . .

2000-08-22 Thread Dave Hennen

or entered a static route for a gateway of last resort as

ip route 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 10.20.30.254

hmm, how come that didn't work.  it shows up in the routing table.  (fx:
scratches head and tries to look confident in front of the customer)  what's
this /32 at the end of the address? 

daveh

-Original Message-
From: Hitt, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 11:37 AM
To: 'McMasters, Eric'; 'Cohen, Michael'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when .
. . ."


Has anyone ever added a static route only to find out that the route is not
in the route table nor is the customers routes? I usually blame it on bad
memory, reboot and it works. I know I did it right but you still feel like
an ass. 

Jason Hitt
MCSE+I, CNA, CCNA, CCDA, A+, Network + 

-Original Message-
From: McMasters, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 10:57 AM
To: 'Cohen, Michael'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when .
. . ."


That also falls in-line with when we wanted to see what "debug all" would do
on the core router.  After about a minute of continuous logging messages it
just stopped working.  Again we had to reboot the router and we were somehow
able to blame it on the server guys!  "Sir, the NT servers were generating
excessive broadcasts which filled the routers buffers and forced it to shut
down.  You know Sir you really should talk to those server guys about
configuring their equipment right."  Ah the good ole' days, huh Mike!!!

Eric L. McMasters, CCNP/CCDA
OSSN - Sr. Network Engineer

Phone:913.859.1986
PCS:913.485.9734
Fax: 913.859.1234


-Original Message-
From: Cohen, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 8:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when .
. . ."


Too funny.  I can think of one incident about 4 years back when I was in the
military and we didn't know anything about configuring cisco equipment.  A
friend of mine who lurks on this list like me (you know who you are Eric)
and myself were trying to play a prank on a fellow co-worker and block
traffic on his computer.  We thought of an ACL to block his IP address but
he was smart enough to change it if we did that.  So we settled on creating
a filter by mac address.  The problem was we couldn't apply it to the
interface so after a little reading we figured the interface needed to be in
a bridge group to apply this ACL.  Now, this interface was serving our
entire building which was the Communications Squadron for the base.
Needless to say when when everyone in the building started yelling we
rebooted it and blamed it on a software crash on the router (hey these
things happen:)...

Michael Cohen
CCDP, CCNP
CCIE #6080

-Original Message-
From: Ben Lovegrove [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 12:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . .
."


(tongue firmly in cheek)

I have this theory that you can call yourself and internetworking
engineer when . . . .

1.  You have run a debug command on a customer router while
investigating a performance problem, or perhaps a security issue, and
you have caused the CPU to exceed 100% and the router has hung/crashed.

2.  You have edited an ACL remotely and reapplied it only to find you
have blocked all traffic including telnet from your desk and you are
now locked out.  

3.  In both of the above scenarios you have made up some story for the
Help Desk/1st Line Support and asked them to get the customer to reboot
the router, claiming that "a reboot may help the performance problem .
. blah . . blah"

4.  In each of points 1  2 the customer in question is a major account
that has threatened legal action against your company for failing to
maintain SLAs, or to close the account altogether.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?  Have you every felt that cold
feeling in the pit of your stomach when you entered a command and the
screen froze?  Did you blame hardware/software/customer/gremlins i.e.
anybody and anything but not yourself?

;-)

Ben



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Re: You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . . .

2000-08-18 Thread keith wood

Been there, done that...  Reload is a marvelous 'cover your ass' command.  I
guess by Bens definition I am a truly great engineer (not - but hey we all
have to learn)

Havent monumentally messed up in along time (famous last words...)

L8r.  ;-)

"Sasa Milic" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

 There is great command 'reload in number of minutes'; should be used
 before
 any serious work :)


 Atif Awan wrote:
 
  lol :) hasnt happened to me yet but i cant help thinking abt the feeling
:o)
  ( guess i am not a complete internetworking engineer yet )
 
  2.  You have edited an ACL remotely and reapplied it only to find you
  have blocked all traffic including telnet from your desk and you are
  now locked out.

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RE: You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . . .

2000-08-09 Thread Ben Lovegrove

Yes!  I knew I was not the only one.

Internetworking - it's living life to the max.  Oh, the thrill of:

"Hit it, and see what happens"
"It's only a mild debug command"
"This is a certainty for improving throughput"
"Of course I know what 'implicit deny' means"


--- David Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Ooh Ben, been there done that
:)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Cbridgett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 6:46 PM
 To: Ben Lovegrove; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when
 .
 . . ."
 
 
 Got one even better.
 
 copy run testconfg
   Do you want to erase flash?
   Y
 
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 "...to hell with what other people think, I'm ridin' my own broom!"
 L. M.
 
 Cynthia Bridgett, raised in SE DC
and proud of it!
 CCNA, MCSE, CNE, CNA, MCP, A+

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
 Of
 Ben Lovegrove
 Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 3:20 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . .
 .
 ."
 
 
 (tongue firmly in cheek)
 
 I have this theory that you can call yourself and internetworking
 engineer when . . . .
 
 1.  You have run a debug command on a customer router while
 investigating a performance problem, or perhaps a security issue, and
 you have caused the CPU to exceed 100% and the router has
 hung/crashed.
 
 2.  You have edited an ACL remotely and reapplied it only to find you
 have blocked all traffic including telnet from your desk and you are
 now locked out.
 
 3.  In both of the above scenarios you have made up some story for
 the
 Help Desk/1st Line Support and asked them to get the customer to
 reboot
 the router, claiming that "a reboot may help the performance problem
 .
 . blah . . blah"
 
 4.  In each of points 1  2 the customer in question is a major
 account
 that has threatened legal action against your company for failing to
 maintain SLAs, or to close the account altogether.
 
 Does this sound familiar to anyone?  Have you every felt that cold
 feeling in the pit of your stomach when you entered a command and the
 screen froze?  Did you blame hardware/software/customer/gremlins i.e.
 anybody and anything but not yourself?
 
 ;-)
 
 Ben



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Re: You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . . .

2000-08-09 Thread David R. Lease

Ben:

I do neither.  I smile and act like that I expected that result.
THEN I reboot.

David

(tongue placed back in cheek after wagging furiously)

Besides, the secret to being a consultant is to know *at least* 2%
more than your client.  Mind you, the requirement rarely exceeds
2%!
- Original Message -
From: "Ben Lovegrove" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 3:19 AM
Subject: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when
. . . ."


 (tongue firmly in cheek)

 I have this theory that you can call yourself and
internetworking
 engineer when . . . .

 1.  You have run a debug command on a customer router while
 investigating a performance problem, or perhaps a security
issue, and
 you have caused the CPU to exceed 100% and the router has
hung/crashed.

 2.  You have edited an ACL remotely and reapplied it only to
find you
 have blocked all traffic including telnet from your desk and you
are
 now locked out.

 3.  In both of the above scenarios you have made up some story
for the
 Help Desk/1st Line Support and asked them to get the customer to
reboot
 the router, claiming that "a reboot may help the performance
problem .
 . blah . . blah"

 4.  In each of points 1  2 the customer in question is a major
account
 that has threatened legal action against your company for
failing to
 maintain SLAs, or to close the account altogether.

 Does this sound familiar to anyone?  Have you every felt that
cold
 feeling in the pit of your stomach when you entered a command
and the
 screen froze?  Did you blame hardware/software/customer/gremlins
i.e.
 anybody and anything but not yourself?

 ;-)

 Ben



 =
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RE: You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . . .

2000-08-08 Thread Atif Awan



lol :) hasnt happened to me yet but i cant help thinking abt the feeling :o)
( guess i am not a complete internetworking engineer yet )

Atif

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Ben Lovegrove
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 12:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . .
."


(tongue firmly in cheek)

I have this theory that you can call yourself and internetworking
engineer when . . . .

1.  You have run a debug command on a customer router while
investigating a performance problem, or perhaps a security issue, and
you have caused the CPU to exceed 100% and the router has hung/crashed.

2.  You have edited an ACL remotely and reapplied it only to find you
have blocked all traffic including telnet from your desk and you are
now locked out.

3.  In both of the above scenarios you have made up some story for the
Help Desk/1st Line Support and asked them to get the customer to reboot
the router, claiming that "a reboot may help the performance problem .
. blah . . blah"

4.  In each of points 1  2 the customer in question is a major account
that has threatened legal action against your company for failing to
maintain SLAs, or to close the account altogether.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?  Have you every felt that cold
feeling in the pit of your stomach when you entered a command and the
screen froze?  Did you blame hardware/software/customer/gremlins i.e.
anybody and anything but not yourself?

;-)

Ben



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Re: You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . . .

2000-08-08 Thread Saša Milic


There is great command 'reload in number of minutes'; should be used
before
any serious work :)


Atif Awan wrote:
 
 lol :) hasnt happened to me yet but i cant help thinking abt the feeling :o)
 ( guess i am not a complete internetworking engineer yet )
 
 2.  You have edited an ACL remotely and reapplied it only to find you
 have blocked all traffic including telnet from your desk and you are
 now locked out.

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RE: You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . . .

2000-08-08 Thread HILVING, JAMES (SBIS)

I have to say that I was surprised when I found a show command that will
crash a router in the first releases of 12.0. 
The first time I played in a customers 8500 Series running 12.0 I did a
bunch if show commands until I found out Cisco added "show diag ? ". I
decided it would be interesting to try every option possible behind it and
see what was shown. Then, the router completely quit responding. Of course
this happened around 2 AM 800 miles away from my building. So I contacted
the customer to go in and reboot the box. The customer said that all the
lights on the entire chassis were bright red. After the reboot the box
recovered saying possible write erase preformed and of course went right to
the setup dialog. The config was not in the router anyway and the customer
failed to back it up. So of course I spent the next three hours helping the
customer figure out how to restore the configuration by tracing cable and
looking at IP addresses assigned on each machine.   

Now I can't tell my new employees that show commands will never cause a
problem...But if it does you blame it on that Cisco IOS.


James Hilving

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Ben Lovegrove
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 2:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . .
."


(tongue firmly in cheek)

I have this theory that you can call yourself and internetworking
engineer when . . . .

1.  You have run a debug command on a customer router while
investigating a performance problem, or perhaps a security issue, and
you have caused the CPU to exceed 100% and the router has hung/crashed.

2.  You have edited an ACL remotely and reapplied it only to find you
have blocked all traffic including telnet from your desk and you are
now locked out.  

3.  In both of the above scenarios you have made up some story for the
Help Desk/1st Line Support and asked them to get the customer to reboot
the router, claiming that "a reboot may help the performance problem .
. blah . . blah"

4.  In each of points 1  2 the customer in question is a major account
that has threatened legal action against your company for failing to
maintain SLAs, or to close the account altogether.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?  Have you every felt that cold
feeling in the pit of your stomach when you entered a command and the
screen froze?  Did you blame hardware/software/customer/gremlins i.e.
anybody and anything but not yourself?

;-)

Ben



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RE: You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . . .

2000-08-08 Thread McMasters, Eric

That also falls in-line with when we wanted to see what "debug all" would do
on the core router.  After about a minute of continuous logging messages it
just stopped working.  Again we had to reboot the router and we were somehow
able to blame it on the server guys!  "Sir, the NT servers were generating
excessive broadcasts which filled the routers buffers and forced it to shut
down.  You know Sir you really should talk to those server guys about
configuring their equipment right."  Ah the good ole' days, huh Mike!!!

Eric L. McMasters, CCNP/CCDA
OSSN - Sr. Network Engineer

Phone:913.859.1986
PCS:913.485.9734
Fax: 913.859.1234


-Original Message-
From: Cohen, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 8:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when .
. . ."


Too funny.  I can think of one incident about 4 years back when I was in the
military and we didn't know anything about configuring cisco equipment.  A
friend of mine who lurks on this list like me (you know who you are Eric)
and myself were trying to play a prank on a fellow co-worker and block
traffic on his computer.  We thought of an ACL to block his IP address but
he was smart enough to change it if we did that.  So we settled on creating
a filter by mac address.  The problem was we couldn't apply it to the
interface so after a little reading we figured the interface needed to be in
a bridge group to apply this ACL.  Now, this interface was serving our
entire building which was the Communications Squadron for the base.
Needless to say when when everyone in the building started yelling we
rebooted it and blamed it on a software crash on the router (hey these
things happen:)...

Michael Cohen
CCDP, CCNP
CCIE #6080

-Original Message-
From: Ben Lovegrove [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 12:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . .
."


(tongue firmly in cheek)

I have this theory that you can call yourself and internetworking
engineer when . . . .

1.  You have run a debug command on a customer router while
investigating a performance problem, or perhaps a security issue, and
you have caused the CPU to exceed 100% and the router has hung/crashed.

2.  You have edited an ACL remotely and reapplied it only to find you
have blocked all traffic including telnet from your desk and you are
now locked out.  

3.  In both of the above scenarios you have made up some story for the
Help Desk/1st Line Support and asked them to get the customer to reboot
the router, claiming that "a reboot may help the performance problem .
. blah . . blah"

4.  In each of points 1  2 the customer in question is a major account
that has threatened legal action against your company for failing to
maintain SLAs, or to close the account altogether.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?  Have you every felt that cold
feeling in the pit of your stomach when you entered a command and the
screen froze?  Did you blame hardware/software/customer/gremlins i.e.
anybody and anything but not yourself?

;-)

Ben



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RE: You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . . .

2000-08-08 Thread Cbridgett

Got one even better.

copy run testconfg
  Do you want to erase flash?
  Y

...ohhssh



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"...to hell with what other people think, I'm ridin' my own broom!" L. M.

Cynthia Bridgett, raised in SE DC
   and proud of it!
CCNA, MCSE, CNE, CNA, MCP, A+

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Ben Lovegrove
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 3:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . .
."


(tongue firmly in cheek)

I have this theory that you can call yourself and internetworking
engineer when . . . .

1.  You have run a debug command on a customer router while
investigating a performance problem, or perhaps a security issue, and
you have caused the CPU to exceed 100% and the router has hung/crashed.

2.  You have edited an ACL remotely and reapplied it only to find you
have blocked all traffic including telnet from your desk and you are
now locked out.

3.  In both of the above scenarios you have made up some story for the
Help Desk/1st Line Support and asked them to get the customer to reboot
the router, claiming that "a reboot may help the performance problem .
. blah . . blah"

4.  In each of points 1  2 the customer in question is a major account
that has threatened legal action against your company for failing to
maintain SLAs, or to close the account altogether.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?  Have you every felt that cold
feeling in the pit of your stomach when you entered a command and the
screen froze?  Did you blame hardware/software/customer/gremlins i.e.
anybody and anything but not yourself?

;-)

Ben



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RE: You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . . .

2000-08-08 Thread David Jones

Ooh Ben, been there done that :)

-Original Message-
From: Cbridgett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 6:46 PM
To: Ben Lovegrove; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when .
. . ."


Got one even better.

copy run testconfg
  Do you want to erase flash?
  Y

...ohhssh


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oeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoe
oe
"...to hell with what other people think, I'm ridin' my own broom!" L. M.

Cynthia Bridgett, raised in SE DC
   and proud of it!
CCNA, MCSE, CNE, CNA, MCP, A+
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Ben Lovegrove
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 3:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . .
."


(tongue firmly in cheek)

I have this theory that you can call yourself and internetworking
engineer when . . . .

1.  You have run a debug command on a customer router while
investigating a performance problem, or perhaps a security issue, and
you have caused the CPU to exceed 100% and the router has hung/crashed.

2.  You have edited an ACL remotely and reapplied it only to find you
have blocked all traffic including telnet from your desk and you are
now locked out.

3.  In both of the above scenarios you have made up some story for the
Help Desk/1st Line Support and asked them to get the customer to reboot
the router, claiming that "a reboot may help the performance problem .
. blah . . blah"

4.  In each of points 1  2 the customer in question is a major account
that has threatened legal action against your company for failing to
maintain SLAs, or to close the account altogether.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?  Have you every felt that cold
feeling in the pit of your stomach when you entered a command and the
screen froze?  Did you blame hardware/software/customer/gremlins i.e.
anybody and anything but not yourself?

;-)

Ben



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RE: You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . . .

2000-08-08 Thread Cohen, Michael

Too funny.  I can think of one incident about 4 years back when I was in the
military and we didn't know anything about configuring cisco equipment.  A
friend of mine who lurks on this list like me (you know who you are Eric)
and myself were trying to play a prank on a fellow co-worker and block
traffic on his computer.  We thought of an ACL to block his IP address but
he was smart enough to change it if we did that.  So we settled on creating
a filter by mac address.  The problem was we couldn't apply it to the
interface so after a little reading we figured the interface needed to be in
a bridge group to apply this ACL.  Now, this interface was serving our
entire building which was the Communications Squadron for the base.
Needless to say when when everyone in the building started yelling we
rebooted it and blamed it on a software crash on the router (hey these
things happen:)...

Michael Cohen
CCDP, CCNP
CCIE #6080

-Original Message-
From: Ben Lovegrove [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 12:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . .
."


(tongue firmly in cheek)

I have this theory that you can call yourself and internetworking
engineer when . . . .

1.  You have run a debug command on a customer router while
investigating a performance problem, or perhaps a security issue, and
you have caused the CPU to exceed 100% and the router has hung/crashed.

2.  You have edited an ACL remotely and reapplied it only to find you
have blocked all traffic including telnet from your desk and you are
now locked out.  

3.  In both of the above scenarios you have made up some story for the
Help Desk/1st Line Support and asked them to get the customer to reboot
the router, claiming that "a reboot may help the performance problem .
. blah . . blah"

4.  In each of points 1  2 the customer in question is a major account
that has threatened legal action against your company for failing to
maintain SLAs, or to close the account altogether.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?  Have you every felt that cold
feeling in the pit of your stomach when you entered a command and the
screen froze?  Did you blame hardware/software/customer/gremlins i.e.
anybody and anything but not yourself?

;-)

Ben



=
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Redspan Solutions Ltd
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