Re: ccnp routing [7:54579]
is 603 already abolished ?? am planning to take 603 next week, i thought it'll be change on OCT 25? thanks! Kaminski, Shawn G wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... You need to know IS-IS, BGP, EIGRP, and OSPF equally well for the exam because each exam will be different. When I took my routing exam (the old one), I had almost all OSPF (I think it was OSPF. I know it was very one-sided on one of the routing protocols). Other people I talked with said their exams were very one-sided on different routing protocols (one said BGP, the other said EIGRP). I'm sure the new exam is the same way. You never know what you're going to get! Shawn K. -Original Message- From: John Brandis [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 11:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccnp routing [7:54579] Wow, I am the opposite. I use OSPF as much as possible here, mainly due to the fact I had used it whilst in my early stages of networking. I really like OSPF and love how it it scales nicely in my networks. I honestly thought that a large portion of the routing test would be focused on OSPF. Guess I am wrong (again). Good luck and conratulations on your score. Hope the NZ Warriors have similar luck on Sunday night. John -Original Message- From: Simon Dartford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 12:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccnp routing [7:54579] I sat this yesterday! It is a bit differnet, and in my opinion, better. Better because there is actual router simulation involved. I had to configure OSPF on one! I was caught out on IS-IS as I only started to study that at 6am the morning on the exam. My diligence was rewarded with %20 on IS-IS content. I fared better overall and go an excellent overall score (considering my performance on IS-IS). It focussed mainly on IS-IS (approx 10 questions), OSPF and BGP. Very little on EIGRP. I have only really ever configured EIGRP and BGP and I still did ok. Never seen OSPF before or since! I studied for one week beforehand. I used the old Ciscopress 503 exam guide. This was ok and went into more depth than the exam did. I borrowed the course notes for the IS-IS content, but did not retain anything much in the hour between 6am and 7am! IMHO, you will be fine with having done the course and a bit of revision. Some have said in cramsession it was way hard - only hard if you have not prepared well! I relied on my practical experience and just browsed the book. In the final 10 minutes, I was sure I had failed, as all the IS-IS questions were at the end. I was running through my head when I should resit, only to be surprised (really surprised...) that I had passed! Hope this info is helpful Simon Dartford Design Engineer Advanced Solutions Telecom New Zealand Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +64 4 382-5453 Fax: +64 4 385-1223 Mobile: 025 243 7989 Important: This electronic message and attachments (if any) are confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient do not copy, disclose or use the contents in any way. Please let us know by return email immediately and then destroy this message. -Original Message- From: Jesus Velazquez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2002 10:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ccnp routing [7:54579] i'm sitting in on the routing 901 bsci (new exam) next week...any good advice or look outs for the exam?? i took the global knowledge course 2 weeks ago and have the older version of the boson routing for exam 603. should this be suffice. i heard the cisco press routing book is not a very good book for this course. thanks - This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. -- -- - - [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of Simon Dartford (E-mail).vcf] ** visit http://www.solution6.com UK Customers - http://www.solution6.co.uk * This email message (and attachments) may contain information that is confidential to Solution 6. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or attachments. In such a case, please notify the sender by return email immediately and erase all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this
RE: ccnp routing [7:54579]
No, we were discussing the BSCI 640-901 exam. You're OK taking the 640-603 until 10/25 providing you registered for it by 9/13. Shawn K. -Original Message- From: sisco [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 9:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ccnp routing [7:54579] is 603 already abolished ?? am planning to take 603 next week, i thought it'll be change on OCT 25? thanks! Kaminski, Shawn G wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... You need to know IS-IS, BGP, EIGRP, and OSPF equally well for the exam because each exam will be different. When I took my routing exam (the old one), I had almost all OSPF (I think it was OSPF. I know it was very one-sided on one of the routing protocols). Other people I talked with said their exams were very one-sided on different routing protocols (one said BGP, the other said EIGRP). I'm sure the new exam is the same way. You never know what you're going to get! Shawn K. -Original Message- From: John Brandis [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 11:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccnp routing [7:54579] Wow, I am the opposite. I use OSPF as much as possible here, mainly due to the fact I had used it whilst in my early stages of networking. I really like OSPF and love how it it scales nicely in my networks. I honestly thought that a large portion of the routing test would be focused on OSPF. Guess I am wrong (again). Good luck and conratulations on your score. Hope the NZ Warriors have similar luck on Sunday night. John -Original Message- From: Simon Dartford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 12:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccnp routing [7:54579] I sat this yesterday! It is a bit differnet, and in my opinion, better. Better because there is actual router simulation involved. I had to configure OSPF on one! I was caught out on IS-IS as I only started to study that at 6am the morning on the exam. My diligence was rewarded with %20 on IS-IS content. I fared better overall and go an excellent overall score (considering my performance on IS-IS). It focussed mainly on IS-IS (approx 10 questions), OSPF and BGP. Very little on EIGRP. I have only really ever configured EIGRP and BGP and I still did ok. Never seen OSPF before or since! I studied for one week beforehand. I used the old Ciscopress 503 exam guide. This was ok and went into more depth than the exam did. I borrowed the course notes for the IS-IS content, but did not retain anything much in the hour between 6am and 7am! IMHO, you will be fine with having done the course and a bit of revision. Some have said in cramsession it was way hard - only hard if you have not prepared well! I relied on my practical experience and just browsed the book. In the final 10 minutes, I was sure I had failed, as all the IS-IS questions were at the end. I was running through my head when I should resit, only to be surprised (really surprised...) that I had passed! Hope this info is helpful Simon Dartford Design Engineer Advanced Solutions Telecom New Zealand Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +64 4 382-5453 Fax: +64 4 385-1223 Mobile: 025 243 7989 Important: This electronic message and attachments (if any) are confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient do not copy, disclose or use the contents in any way. Please let us know by return email immediately and then destroy this message. -Original Message- From: Jesus Velazquez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2002 10:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ccnp routing [7:54579] i'm sitting in on the routing 901 bsci (new exam) next week...any good advice or look outs for the exam?? i took the global knowledge course 2 weeks ago and have the older version of the boson routing for exam 603. should this be suffice. i heard the cisco press routing book is not a very good book for this course. thanks - This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. -- -- - - [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of Simon Dartford (E-mail).vcf] ** visit http://www.solution6.com UK Customers - http://www.solutio
RE: ccnp routing [7:54579]
I guess you never read the Cisco NDA which you agreed to before you started the exam? Tch tch! :-) -Original Message- From: Simon Dartford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 October 2002 04:24 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccnp routing [7:54579] I sat this yesterday! It is a bit differnet, and in my opinion, better. Better because there is actual router simulation involved. I had to configure OSPF on one! I was caught out on IS-IS as I only started to study that at 6am the morning on the exam. My diligence was rewarded with %20 on IS-IS content. I fared better overall and go an excellent overall score (considering my performance on IS-IS). It focussed mainly on IS-IS (approx 10 questions), OSPF and BGP. Very little on EIGRP. I have only really ever configured EIGRP and BGP and I still did ok. Never seen OSPF before or since! I studied for one week beforehand. I used the old Ciscopress 503 exam guide. This was ok and went into more depth than the exam did. I borrowed the course notes for the IS-IS content, but did not retain anything much in the hour between 6am and 7am! IMHO, you will be fine with having done the course and a bit of revision. Some have said in cramsession it was way hard - only hard if you have not prepared well! I relied on my practical experience and just browsed the book. In the final 10 minutes, I was sure I had failed, as all the IS-IS questions were at the end. I was running through my head when I should resit, only to be surprised (really surprised...) that I had passed! Hope this info is helpful Simon Dartford Design Engineer Advanced Solutions Telecom New Zealand Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +64 4 382-5453 Fax: +64 4 385-1223 Mobile: 025 243 7989 Important: This electronic message and attachments (if any) are confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient do not copy, disclose or use the contents in any way. Please let us know by return email immediately and then destroy this message. -Original Message- From: Jesus Velazquez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2002 10:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ccnp routing [7:54579] i'm sitting in on the routing 901 bsci (new exam) next week...any good advice or look outs for the exam?? i took the global knowledge course 2 weeks ago and have the older version of the boson routing for exam 603. should this be suffice. i heard the cisco press routing book is not a very good book for this course. thanks - This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. - - [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of Simon Dartford (E-mail).vcf] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=54708t=54579 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ccnp routing [7:54579]
You need to know IS-IS, BGP, EIGRP, and OSPF equally well for the exam because each exam will be different. When I took my routing exam (the old one), I had almost all OSPF (I think it was OSPF. I know it was very one-sided on one of the routing protocols). Other people I talked with said their exams were very one-sided on different routing protocols (one said BGP, the other said EIGRP). I'm sure the new exam is the same way. You never know what you're going to get! Shawn K. -Original Message- From: John Brandis [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 11:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccnp routing [7:54579] Wow, I am the opposite. I use OSPF as much as possible here, mainly due to the fact I had used it whilst in my early stages of networking. I really like OSPF and love how it it scales nicely in my networks. I honestly thought that a large portion of the routing test would be focused on OSPF. Guess I am wrong (again). Good luck and conratulations on your score. Hope the NZ Warriors have similar luck on Sunday night. John -Original Message- From: Simon Dartford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 12:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccnp routing [7:54579] I sat this yesterday! It is a bit differnet, and in my opinion, better. Better because there is actual router simulation involved. I had to configure OSPF on one! I was caught out on IS-IS as I only started to study that at 6am the morning on the exam. My diligence was rewarded with %20 on IS-IS content. I fared better overall and go an excellent overall score (considering my performance on IS-IS). It focussed mainly on IS-IS (approx 10 questions), OSPF and BGP. Very little on EIGRP. I have only really ever configured EIGRP and BGP and I still did ok. Never seen OSPF before or since! I studied for one week beforehand. I used the old Ciscopress 503 exam guide. This was ok and went into more depth than the exam did. I borrowed the course notes for the IS-IS content, but did not retain anything much in the hour between 6am and 7am! IMHO, you will be fine with having done the course and a bit of revision. Some have said in cramsession it was way hard - only hard if you have not prepared well! I relied on my practical experience and just browsed the book. In the final 10 minutes, I was sure I had failed, as all the IS-IS questions were at the end. I was running through my head when I should resit, only to be surprised (really surprised...) that I had passed! Hope this info is helpful Simon Dartford Design Engineer Advanced Solutions Telecom New Zealand Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +64 4 382-5453 Fax: +64 4 385-1223 Mobile: 025 243 7989 Important: This electronic message and attachments (if any) are confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient do not copy, disclose or use the contents in any way. Please let us know by return email immediately and then destroy this message. -Original Message- From: Jesus Velazquez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2002 10:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ccnp routing [7:54579] i'm sitting in on the routing 901 bsci (new exam) next week...any good advice or look outs for the exam?? i took the global knowledge course 2 weeks ago and have the older version of the boson routing for exam 603. should this be suffice. i heard the cisco press routing book is not a very good book for this course. thanks - This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. -- -- - - [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of Simon Dartford (E-mail).vcf] ** visit http://www.solution6.com UK Customers - http://www.solution6.co.uk * This email message (and attachments) may contain information that is confidential to Solution 6. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or attachments. In such a case, please notify the sender by return email immediately and erase all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of Solution 6 are neither given nor endorsed by it. * Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=54735t=54579
RE: ccnp routing [7:54579]
I wish I had more hands on with OSPF, but as we are mainly a Cisco shop, there has not been much call for it. Whoops, you may have misunderstood my email - the exam (in my case) focussed mainly on IS-IS, OSPF and BGP. Even as I said IS-IS was approx 10 questions, the same would have been for OSPF and BGP. I guess I focussed on the IS-IS as it is a recent component and was my weakness. Thanks for the congratualtions. It has been nice to take a breather and do some study for a change. My last job of almost 4 years was INTENSIVE hands on as a Network Specialist. It was so gruelling I just had no energy left to study (or do much else). It really killed my hairline but gave me a hands on opportunity to the extent that I may not see again. Warriors underdog indeed! cheers Simon Dartford Design Engineer Advanced Solutions Telecom New Zealand Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +64 4 382-5453 Fax: +64 4 385-1223 Mobile: 025 243 7989 Important: This electronic message and attachments (if any) are confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient do not copy, disclose or use the contents in any way. Please let us know by return email immediately and then destroy this message. -Original Message- From: John Brandis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2002 14:44 To: Simon Dartford; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccnp routing [7:54579] Wow, I am the opposite. I use OSPF as much as possible here, mainly due to the fact I had used it whilst in my early stages of networking. I really like OSPF and love how it it scales nicely in my networks. I honestly thought that a large portion of the routing test would be focused on OSPF. Guess I am wrong (again). Good luck and conratulations on your score. Hope the NZ Warriors have similar luck on Sunday night. John -Original Message- From: Simon Dartford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 12:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccnp routing [7:54579] I sat this yesterday! It is a bit differnet, and in my opinion, better. Better because there is actual router simulation involved. I had to configure OSPF on one! I was caught out on IS-IS as I only started to study that at 6am the morning on the exam. My diligence was rewarded with %20 on IS-IS content. I fared better overall and go an excellent overall score (considering my performance on IS-IS). It focussed mainly on IS-IS (approx 10 questions), OSPF and BGP. Very little on EIGRP. I have only really ever configured EIGRP and BGP and I still did ok. Never seen OSPF before or since! I studied for one week beforehand. I used the old Ciscopress 503 exam guide. This was ok and went into more depth than the exam did. I borrowed the course notes for the IS-IS content, but did not retain anything much in the hour between 6am and 7am! IMHO, you will be fine with having done the course and a bit of revision. Some have said in cramsession it was way hard - only hard if you have not prepared well! I relied on my practical experience and just browsed the book. In the final 10 minutes, I was sure I had failed, as all the IS-IS questions were at the end. I was running through my head when I should resit, only to be surprised (really surprised...) that I had passed! Hope this info is helpful Simon Dartford Design Engineer Advanced Solutions Telecom New Zealand Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +64 4 382-5453 Fax: +64 4 385-1223 Mobile: 025 243 7989 Important: This electronic message and attachments (if any) are confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient do not copy, disclose or use the contents in any way. Please let us know by return email immediately and then destroy this message. -Original Message- From: Jesus Velazquez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2002 10:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ccnp routing [7:54579] i'm sitting in on the routing 901 bsci (new exam) next week...any good advice or look outs for the exam?? i took the global knowledge course 2 weeks ago and have the older version of the boson routing for exam 603. should this be suffice. i heard the cisco press routing book is not a very good book for this course. thanks - This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. - - [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of Simon Dartford (E-mail).vcf] ** visit http://www.solution6.com UK Customers - http://www.solution6.co.uk * This email message (and attachments) may
RE: ccnp routing [7:54579]
I sat this yesterday! It is a bit differnet, and in my opinion, better. Better because there is actual router simulation involved. I had to configure OSPF on one! I was caught out on IS-IS as I only started to study that at 6am the morning on the exam. My diligence was rewarded with %20 on IS-IS content. I fared better overall and go an excellent overall score (considering my performance on IS-IS). It focussed mainly on IS-IS (approx 10 questions), OSPF and BGP. Very little on EIGRP. I have only really ever configured EIGRP and BGP and I still did ok. Never seen OSPF before or since! I studied for one week beforehand. I used the old Ciscopress 503 exam guide. This was ok and went into more depth than the exam did. I borrowed the course notes for the IS-IS content, but did not retain anything much in the hour between 6am and 7am! IMHO, you will be fine with having done the course and a bit of revision. Some have said in cramsession it was way hard - only hard if you have not prepared well! I relied on my practical experience and just browsed the book. In the final 10 minutes, I was sure I had failed, as all the IS-IS questions were at the end. I was running through my head when I should resit, only to be surprised (really surprised...) that I had passed! Hope this info is helpful Simon Dartford Design Engineer Advanced Solutions Telecom New Zealand Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +64 4 382-5453 Fax: +64 4 385-1223 Mobile: 025 243 7989 Important: This electronic message and attachments (if any) are confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient do not copy, disclose or use the contents in any way. Please let us know by return email immediately and then destroy this message. -Original Message- From: Jesus Velazquez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2002 10:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ccnp routing [7:54579] i'm sitting in on the routing 901 bsci (new exam) next week...any good advice or look outs for the exam?? i took the global knowledge course 2 weeks ago and have the older version of the boson routing for exam 603. should this be suffice. i heard the cisco press routing book is not a very good book for this course. thanks - This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. - - [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of Simon Dartford (E-mail).vcf] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=54589t=54579 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ccnp routing [7:54579]
Wow, I am the opposite. I use OSPF as much as possible here, mainly due to the fact I had used it whilst in my early stages of networking. I really like OSPF and love how it it scales nicely in my networks. I honestly thought that a large portion of the routing test would be focused on OSPF. Guess I am wrong (again). Good luck and conratulations on your score. Hope the NZ Warriors have similar luck on Sunday night. John -Original Message- From: Simon Dartford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 12:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccnp routing [7:54579] I sat this yesterday! It is a bit differnet, and in my opinion, better. Better because there is actual router simulation involved. I had to configure OSPF on one! I was caught out on IS-IS as I only started to study that at 6am the morning on the exam. My diligence was rewarded with %20 on IS-IS content. I fared better overall and go an excellent overall score (considering my performance on IS-IS). It focussed mainly on IS-IS (approx 10 questions), OSPF and BGP. Very little on EIGRP. I have only really ever configured EIGRP and BGP and I still did ok. Never seen OSPF before or since! I studied for one week beforehand. I used the old Ciscopress 503 exam guide. This was ok and went into more depth than the exam did. I borrowed the course notes for the IS-IS content, but did not retain anything much in the hour between 6am and 7am! IMHO, you will be fine with having done the course and a bit of revision. Some have said in cramsession it was way hard - only hard if you have not prepared well! I relied on my practical experience and just browsed the book. In the final 10 minutes, I was sure I had failed, as all the IS-IS questions were at the end. I was running through my head when I should resit, only to be surprised (really surprised...) that I had passed! Hope this info is helpful Simon Dartford Design Engineer Advanced Solutions Telecom New Zealand Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +64 4 382-5453 Fax: +64 4 385-1223 Mobile: 025 243 7989 Important: This electronic message and attachments (if any) are confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient do not copy, disclose or use the contents in any way. Please let us know by return email immediately and then destroy this message. -Original Message- From: Jesus Velazquez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2002 10:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ccnp routing [7:54579] i'm sitting in on the routing 901 bsci (new exam) next week...any good advice or look outs for the exam?? i took the global knowledge course 2 weeks ago and have the older version of the boson routing for exam 603. should this be suffice. i heard the cisco press routing book is not a very good book for this course. thanks - This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. - - [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of Simon Dartford (E-mail).vcf] ** visit http://www.solution6.com UK Customers - http://www.solution6.co.uk * This email message (and attachments) may contain information that is confidential to Solution 6. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or attachments. In such a case, please notify the sender by return email immediately and erase all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of Solution 6 are neither given nor endorsed by it. * Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=54605t=54579 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]