RE: token ring to eth [7:26828]

2001-11-21 Thread NP-BASS LEON

Gentleman MAGDE has a switch capable of handling this type conversion.

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Right! Which is what I was saying in my last post... The original poster
would either have to plug the TR interface on the Router into a TR interface
on a Switch that also has Ethernet Capabilities, and configure SRB, SRT,
etc., or connect the TR Router to another TR/Ethernet router and let that
router do the translation/media conversion.

Mark Odette II

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Darren Crawford wrote:

Good point didn't even think about that.  Same argument still applies.
It seems that he's got an ethernet network/connection that he wants to hook
to the TR interface on the router.  Either way, a simple connector/adapter
isn't going to work, as they are totally difference methods of media access.

Mike W.


 What exactly are you trying to accomplish here?  The 2502 only
 has one
 token ring and two serial interfaces.   If you had a 2513, the
 router
 itself would be your 'media converter' between TR and Ethernet
 segments.
 To my knowledge, there is no such animal to change your token
 ring
 interface into an ethernet interface.

 Darren




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RE: token ring to eth [7:26828]

2001-11-21 Thread NP-BASS LEON

The MADGE switch will allow it to take place on the LAN side so you don't
have to worry about using your router to filter the traffic.

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Right! Which is what I was saying in my last post... The original poster
would either have to plug the TR interface on the Router into a TR interface
on a Switch that also has Ethernet Capabilities, and configure SRB, SRT,
etc., or connect the TR Router to another TR/Ethernet router and let that
router do the translation/media conversion.

Mark Odette II

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Darren Crawford wrote:

Good point didn't even think about that.  Same argument still applies.
It seems that he's got an ethernet network/connection that he wants to hook
to the TR interface on the router.  Either way, a simple connector/adapter
isn't going to work, as they are totally difference methods of media access.

Mike W.


 What exactly are you trying to accomplish here?  The 2502 only
 has one
 token ring and two serial interfaces.   If you had a 2513, the
 router
 itself would be your 'media converter' between TR and Ethernet
 segments.
 To my knowledge, there is no such animal to change your token
 ring
 interface into an ethernet interface.

 Darren




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Re: token ring to eth [7:26828]

2001-11-21 Thread nrf

So can a Cat switch with a token-ring module.

But somehow I don't think that is what the poster wanted to know.



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 The MADGE switch will allow it to take place on the LAN side so you don't
 have to worry about using your router to filter the traffic.

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 From: Mark Odette II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 5:53 PM
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 Subject: RE: token ring to eth [7:26828]


 Right! Which is what I was saying in my last post... The original poster
 would either have to plug the TR interface on the Router into a TR
interface
 on a Switch that also has Ethernet Capabilities, and configure SRB, SRT,
 etc., or connect the TR Router to another TR/Ethernet router and let that
 router do the translation/media conversion.

 Mark Odette II

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 Michael Williams
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 Darren Crawford wrote:

 Good point didn't even think about that.  Same argument still applies.
 It seems that he's got an ethernet network/connection that he wants to
hook
 to the TR interface on the router.  Either way, a simple connector/adapter
 isn't going to work, as they are totally difference methods of media
access.

 Mike W.

 
  What exactly are you trying to accomplish here?  The 2502 only
  has one
  token ring and two serial interfaces.   If you had a 2513, the
  router
  itself would be your 'media converter' between TR and Ethernet
  segments.
  To my knowledge, there is no such animal to change your token
  ring
  interface into an ethernet interface.
 
  Darren




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RE: token ring to eth [7:26828]

2001-11-20 Thread Michael Williams

Is this even possible?


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Re: token ring to eth [7:26828]

2001-11-20 Thread MADMAN

of coarse, routing just works, bridging is a little more complicated.

  Dave

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RE: token ring to eth [7:26828]

2001-11-20 Thread Mark Odette II

As far as I know, you can't just put a gender-changer device on a TR
interface and the other end of it be a Ethernet directly into a Ethernet
Concentrator.

What you would have to do is have a TR Blade in a Modular switch primarily
working with Ethernet, or vise-versa.
Then you have to have the correct OS on the Switch, and configure Bridging
between the TR and Ethernet networks within the OS Configuration.
Do-able, but much more complicated.

Mark Odette II
StellarConnection Services

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Is this even possible?




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Re: token ring to eth [7:26828]

2001-11-20 Thread Michael Williams

Huh?  How is the ethernet interface on a router going to deal with token
ring frames?  Would it pass the token correctly?  I don't think using a
converter on a token ring connector and plugging into an ethernet
interface on a router will work at all.

Mike W.


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Re: token ring to eth [7:26828]

2001-11-20 Thread Darren Crawford

What exactly are you trying to accomplish here?  The 2502 only has one
token ring and two serial interfaces.   If you had a 2513, the router
itself would be your 'media converter' between TR and Ethernet segments.
To my knowledge, there is no such animal to change your token ring
interface into an ethernet interface.  

Darren

At 05:23 AM 11/20/2001 -0500, Atakan OZDEMIR wrote:
Hi all,

Where can I find the converter token ring to ethernet for 2502 ? any idea

thanks
Darren


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Re: token ring to eth [7:26828]

2001-11-20 Thread Michael Williams

Darren Crawford wrote:

Good point didn't even think about that.  Same argument still applies. 
It seems that he's got an ethernet network/connection that he wants to hook
to the TR interface on the router.  Either way, a simple connector/adapter
isn't going to work, as they are totally difference methods of media access.

Mike W.

 
 What exactly are you trying to accomplish here?  The 2502 only
 has one
 token ring and two serial interfaces.   If you had a 2513, the
 router
 itself would be your 'media converter' between TR and Ethernet
 segments.
 To my knowledge, there is no such animal to change your token
 ring
 interface into an ethernet interface.  
 
 Darren



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RE: token ring to eth [7:26828]

2001-11-20 Thread Mcfadden, Chuck

There is no media converter for Token Ring to Ethernet.  A media converter
changes the media (i.e. copper to fiber), not the framing type.  As Darren
eluded below, you need a bridge to change from Token Ring to Ethernet (or a
2513 is a good solution, also).
ccie1ab

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What exactly are you trying to accomplish here?  The 2502 only has one
token ring and two serial interfaces.   If you had a 2513, the router
itself would be your 'media converter' between TR and Ethernet segments.
To my knowledge, there is no such animal to change your token ring
interface into an ethernet interface.  

Darren

At 05:23 AM 11/20/2001 -0500, Atakan OZDEMIR wrote:
Hi all,

Where can I find the converter token ring to ethernet for 2502 ? any idea

thanks
Darren


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RE: token ring to eth [7:26828]

2001-11-20 Thread Mark Odette II

Right! Which is what I was saying in my last post... The original poster
would either have to plug the TR interface on the Router into a TR interface
on a Switch that also has Ethernet Capabilities, and configure SRB, SRT,
etc., or connect the TR Router to another TR/Ethernet router and let that
router do the translation/media conversion.

Mark Odette II

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Subject: Re: token ring to eth [7:26828]


Darren Crawford wrote:

Good point didn't even think about that.  Same argument still applies.
It seems that he's got an ethernet network/connection that he wants to hook
to the TR interface on the router.  Either way, a simple connector/adapter
isn't going to work, as they are totally difference methods of media access.

Mike W.


 What exactly are you trying to accomplish here?  The 2502 only
 has one
 token ring and two serial interfaces.   If you had a 2513, the
 router
 itself would be your 'media converter' between TR and Ethernet
 segments.
 To my knowledge, there is no such animal to change your token
 ring
 interface into an ethernet interface.

 Darren




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