RE: ACRC v. BSCN

2000-09-25 Thread Steve and Monica Brokaw

ACRC + BGP - Access Lists -(most) IPX stuff = BSCN.  They get more in depth
on the routing protocols.

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Subject: ACRC v. BSCN


For those who had the occasion to either take (or compare) the ACRC and BSCN
exams, did you feel they were very, somewhat or not similar?  I've been
reviewing the ACRC guide to keep that info fresh, awaiting the BSCN guide,
and wonder if this is a good idea or bad.  I also wonder that, if one knows
ACRC, will one have a good foundation for the BCSN (say a good 60% to 70% of
the knowledge) or are they too dissimilar of a guide/course to carry each
other?

Any thoughts would be appreciated...even off line!


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RE: ACRC v. BSCN

2000-09-25 Thread William E Gragido

Dude, I am in class this week(today was the first day), for the BCSN and its
way different than the ACRC.  More focus on Distanve Vector/Link State
Protocols, Address summarization and from the look of the text, BGP.

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 For those who had the occasion to either take (or compare) the
 ACRC and BSCN
 exams, did you feel they were very, somewhat or not similar?  I've been
 reviewing the ACRC guide to keep that info fresh, awaiting the BSCN guide,
 and wonder if this is a good idea or bad.  I also wonder that, if
 one knows
 ACRC, will one have a good foundation for the BCSN (say a good
 60% to 70% of
 the knowledge) or are they too dissimilar of a guide/course to carry each
 other?

 Any thoughts would be appreciated...even off line!


 Rob Montgomery CCNA MCP
 Information Security Engineer
 IA Systems Analyst
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Re: ACRC v. BSCN

2000-09-25 Thread michael champion


"Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 For those who had the occasion to either take (or compare) the ACRC and
BSCN
 exams, did you feel they were very, somewhat or not similar?  I've been
 reviewing the ACRC guide to keep that info fresh, awaiting the BSCN guide,
 and wonder if this is a good idea or bad.  I also wonder that, if one
knows
 ACRC, will one have a good foundation for the BCSN (say a good 60% to 70%
of
 the knowledge) or are they too dissimilar of a guide/course to carry each
 other?

 Any thoughts would be appreciated...even off line!

If you use just the old ACRC material for the exam you will probably fail
it. The new exam covers BGP in depth, OSPF in NBMA environments, and hardly
deals at all with IPX or Appletalk. If you use the ACRC materials you are
well-advised to read everything you can on BGP at Cisco's web-site. Also
know what a "regular expression" is in terms of Cisco lists.

MLC


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RE: ACRC Objective question.

2000-09-19 Thread Omar Baceski

i think  dest addr., dest mac, next hop addr.

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 Here's a question that was in a study guide I couldn't answer.
 
 What 3 things does a router need to know to be able to send packet to
 their 
 destination?
 
 I was thinking...
 
 Next-Hop address
 Next-Hop interface
 ???
 
 
 The answers weren't in the book, so I'm passing it on to the group.
 
 
 
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RE: ACRC and BSCN

2000-08-14 Thread Ledwidge, Feargal

Add some good BGP material and you should have it (and drop IPX  bridging).

Feargal

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Hi all:

   Is the ACRC training course and documents very helpful to BSCN exam?

   thanks




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Re: ACRC Vs. BSCN

2000-07-31 Thread Anil Panjwani

hi
that's the impression i get from exam outline. but cisco is notorious for
putting up Qs which are remotely connected to exam outlines

can anyone clarify if IPX, ISDN DDR, Bridges  access-lists are actually
removed?

thanks
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From: Trevor Corness [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: July 19, 2000 12:35 AM
Subject: RE: ACRC Vs. BSCN


 take a look at the objectives on Cisco's site.  In class, our instructor
 told us the major differences.  This is from memory, so I might miss
 something.

 More : BGP, EIGRP, OSPF, Redistribution
 Removed : IPX, ISDN DDR, Bridging, Spanning-Tree (all covered in ICND)

 Basically, it's more indepth routing, with all the switching/bridging
taken
 out, and concentrating on IP.

 Regards,
   Trevor Corness, CCNA


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 EEIEOL
 Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 10:27 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: ACRC Vs. BSCN


 A Chairde,
I have been studying for ACRC, but due to travel commitments
 will not be able to complete exam by 31 July deadline.I will study BSCN
 instead .I was wondering if anyone knows are these exams much different,
 or basically on the same lines, OSPF,EIGRP,ISDN etc


Thanks in advance,


Slan / Ed

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Re: ACRC Vs. BSCN

2000-07-31 Thread Edward Solomon

""Anil Panjwani"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

 hi
 that's the impression i get from exam outline. but cisco is notorious for
 putting up Qs which are remotely connected to exam outlines

 can anyone clarify if IPX, ISDN DDR, Bridges  access-lists are actually
 removed?

I teach BSCN and the IPX, ISDN, bridging and access-list topics have been
removed. You are still required to have an understanding of how to construct
access-lists as these are used for route filtering and route maps
(policy-based routing). The questions in the Routing 2.0 test map exactly to
the topic areas in the course and I found nothing untoward or unexpected
turning up in the test. This is a much better-constructed course than ACRC
and has brand new labs and case studies to supplement the course material.
The student/equipment ratio is also far better. Instead of having one router
between two students, there is now a whole student pod of three routers (in
our lab at IBM Canada, one 3640 and two 2522s) to be managed by two
students. There really isn't a single topic that hasn't been revised or
rewritten. To my mind, having attended ACRC and seen BSCN, there is only one
major area of difference between the two: ACRC touched on BGP in about 20
pages. BSCN has two very sizeable chapeters on BGP, replete with labs and
case studies. The last day of the course is pretty much one gigantic
superlab with everything learned in the course being configured.

--

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Networking Solutions
IBM Canada Ltd. - Learning Services
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Re: ACRC

2000-07-24 Thread Randy Witt

790 is the passing score for all.

 "Amit Lilani" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/24/00 03:12AM 
just wanted to know the passing marks for ccna ... i just gave it today got
727 out of 1000 --- 790 was passing ... all places told me 70 percent was
passing ... of all my acrc book also told 70 is passing... does it change
from person to person.. or is it 790 ... or was it a mistake done for me...

thanks...


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RE: acrc

2000-07-24 Thread Chris Larson

That would depend on your knowledge of the material. They change the
questions so if you get more questions on topics you do not know about then
yes the tests get harder the second time. If the second time you get more
questions on topics you know then they get easier.

Harder is a matter of perspective in the test. The material covered is
always the same, the questions are just different.


AUX0
CCNP +Security

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Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 2:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: acrc


hi to all,

i repeat
do the exams get more tougher on the second attempt.. ???

secondly i got a question on network congestion did not know what the ans
is...  i answered the client server application will run slowly... can u
help me with that question...

and also one questions  which router sends the external AS Lsa's is it
abr/asbr/backbone router have no clues... please help...

thanks
amit


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RE: acrc

2000-07-24 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Cisco doesn't use adaptive testing, which I think is what the person wanted 
to know. Information on which questions you missed is not saved, as far as 
I know. Information on which topics you appear to be bad is not saved either.

If you think about the complexities of a testing system that would present 
a harder test the second time you take it, I think you'll realize that it's 
doubtful Cisco's system has such complexities. They can barely handle the 
complexities of giving us valid tests, for heaven's sake! ;-)

Priscilla


At 04:15 PM 7/24/00, Chris Larson wrote:
That would depend on your knowledge of the material. They change the
questions so if you get more questions on topics you do not know about then
yes the tests get harder the second time. If the second time you get more
questions on topics you know then they get easier.

Harder is a matter of perspective in the test. The material covered is
always the same, the questions are just different.


AUX0
CCNP +Security

-Original Message-
From: Amit Lilani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 2:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: acrc


hi to all,

i repeat
do the exams get more tougher on the second attempt.. ???

secondly i got a question on network congestion did not know what the ans
is...  i answered the client server application will run slowly... can u
help me with that question...

and also one questions  which router sends the external AS Lsa's is it
abr/asbr/backbone router have no clues... please help...

thanks
amit


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RE: ACRC Vs. BSCN

2000-07-19 Thread cv . perez



I passed it also last WE. Add with it VLSM which takes 3/4 of the last one.

Any feedbacks about the Switching 2.0 exam?

cvp




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Bridging, IPX, Appletalk, remote access and ISDN have been dropped.  Focus
on BGP, OSPF, EIGRP for three quarters of the test.  I passed it last week,
so I know you can do it.  :-)
 - Dennis

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Subject: ACRC Vs. BSCN


A Chairde,
  Are there big differences in these exams , or are based on
same lines I.E OSPF,EIGRP,ISDN Etc.


  Slan / Ed

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RE: ACRC Vs. BSCN

2000-07-18 Thread Trevor Corness

take a look at the objectives on Cisco's site.  In class, our instructor
told us the major differences.  This is from memory, so I might miss
something.

More : BGP, EIGRP, OSPF, Redistribution
Removed : IPX, ISDN DDR, Bridging, Spanning-Tree (all covered in ICND)

Basically, it's more indepth routing, with all the switching/bridging taken
out, and concentrating on IP.

Regards,
  Trevor Corness, CCNA


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EEIEOL
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 10:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ACRC Vs. BSCN


A Chairde,
   I have been studying for ACRC, but due to travel commitments
will not be able to complete exam by 31 July deadline.I will study BSCN
instead .I was wondering if anyone knows are these exams much different,
or basically on the same lines, OSPF,EIGRP,ISDN etc


   Thanks in advance,


   Slan / Ed

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Re: ACRC Vs. BSCN

2000-07-18 Thread Brian



I will tell you that just from Cisco's site, what they list in the
outlines, they are definitly different.  One obvious note is that ACRC
does not include BGP in the outline, BCSN does..that right
there is enough to tell me not to use exclusivly ACRC materials for the
BCSN test.

On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, EEIEOL wrote:

 A Chairde,
I have been studying for ACRC, but due to travel commitments
 will not be able to complete exam by 31 July deadline.I will study BSCN
 instead .I was wondering if anyone knows are these exams much different,
 or basically on the same lines, OSPF,EIGRP,ISDN etc
 
 
Thanks in advance,
 
 
Slan / Ed

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RE: ACRC Vs. BSCN

2000-07-18 Thread Brian


Dennis, 

What did you primarily use for study materials for BCSN? (books)

On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Dennis Laganiere wrote:

 Bridging, IPX, Appletalk, remote access and ISDN have been dropped.  Focus
 on BGP, OSPF, EIGRP for three quarters of the test.  I passed it last week,
 so I know you can do it.  :-)
   - Dennis
 
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 From: Eddie O Leary (EEI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 10:53 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: ACRC Vs. BSCN
 
 
 A Chairde,
   Are there big differences in these exams , or are based on
 same lines I.E OSPF,EIGRP,ISDN Etc.
 
 
   Slan / Ed
 
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Re: ACRC Vs. BSCN

2000-07-18 Thread A Ward

I used Large Scale ip Networking solutions from Cisco.  There are 5 chapters
in the book that really make up the BCSN.



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 Dennis,

 What did you primarily use for study materials for BCSN? (books)

 On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Dennis Laganiere wrote:

  Bridging, IPX, Appletalk, remote access and ISDN have been dropped.
Focus
  on BGP, OSPF, EIGRP for three quarters of the test.  I passed it last
week,
  so I know you can do it.  :-)
  - Dennis
 
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  From: Eddie O Leary (EEI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 10:53 AM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: ACRC Vs. BSCN
 
 
  A Chairde,
Are there big differences in these exams , or are based on
  same lines I.E OSPF,EIGRP,ISDN Etc.
 
 
Slan / Ed
 
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Re: ACRC Vs. BSCN

2000-07-18 Thread Roman

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/pdf/bscn.pdf


At 06:27 PM 7/18/00 +0100, you wrote:
A Chairde,
I have been studying for ACRC, but due to travel commitments
will not be able to complete exam by 31 July deadline.I will study BSCN
instead .I was wondering if anyone knows are these exams much different,
or basically on the same lines, OSPF,EIGRP,ISDN etc


Thanks in advance,


Slan / Ed


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RE: ACRC Vs. BSCN

2000-07-18 Thread Dennis Laganiere

Bridging, IPX, Appletalk, remote access and ISDN have been dropped.  Focus
on BGP, OSPF, EIGRP for three quarters of the test.  I passed it last week,
so I know you can do it.  :-)
- Dennis

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From: Eddie O Leary (EEI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 10:53 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: ACRC Vs. BSCN


A Chairde,
  Are there big differences in these exams , or are based on
same lines I.E OSPF,EIGRP,ISDN Etc.


  Slan / Ed

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RE: Acrc to be done

2000-07-13 Thread Dennis Laganiere

Why don't you take a look at the new track?  The ACRC is about to disappear,
and if you're studying from scratch anyway, the focus of the BSCN is
tighter.  You need to really know and understand BGP, EIGRP, and OSPF; and
these are great things to learn anyway.

I'd offer you the stuff I've compiled to prep for the BSCN, but I put them
up on ebay a few days ago and there have been several bids, so I'm committed
to dispose of them through that channel.  

One of the neat things about the BSCN is that instead if being required to
type out full text statements you can select them from a pull down box with
a huge selection.  If you know your commands for the three routing
protocols, you should do fine.  

- Dennis


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Subject: Acrc to be done


Hi,

I am impress by the mails I read on this group. Kudos to everyone out there.
Pls , I need ACRC materials- books,sites, questions,practise test, etc . I
plan to take it this month. And as anybody out there taken the new exams i.e
2.0 track .I want a comparsion on the exam format and exam objectives.

I am also considering doing the FRS 2.0 at once, any advise/help will be
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Re: ACRC (809/1000 = Passed!)

2000-06-29 Thread Gopal Krishnan

The ACRC exams expires only on July31 not June

As i know





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Hey GroupStudy  -

24 hours before they retire 640-403 I squeaked by with a passing grade.
Huzzah.
Thanks for the assists from both SITAMOHT, TODD LAEMMLE, MENTOR LABS
(!),
and Cisco Channel Partner Program .  Where do I go next down the 
winding
path
 towards CCNP (or CCDP)?   Cheers.

Tim Weil - CCNA/CCDA, (ACRC)
Network Consultant
EB Networks, Inc.
Columbia, MD.
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Re: ACRC (809/1000 = Passed!)

2000-06-29 Thread Kevin Wigle

congrats on passing but you had more time than you thought.

the exams expire on 31 JULY not 30 June

The CIT builds on everything so that should be last, go for the CLSC or
CMTD.

Unless of course you're going to do the ver 2.0 stuff now

Kevin Wigle
CCNP, CCDA..

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24 hours before they retire 640-403 I squeaked by with a passing grade.
 Huzzah.
Thanks for the assists from both SITAMOHT, TODD LAEMMLE, MENTOR LABS
 (!),
and Cisco Channel Partner Program .  Where do I go next down the
winding
 path
 towards CCNP (or CCDP)?   Cheers.

 Tim Weil - CCNA/CCDA, (ACRC)
 Network Consultant
 EB Networks, Inc.
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RE: ACRC-BSCN-TEST

2000-06-26 Thread John Wu
It's already started. Where have you been?
 William E Gragido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: 
isn't going to begin in August of this year? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shoaib Waqar Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 3:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ACRC-BSCN-TEST   Dear All, Can anyone tell me that when the testing of Routing 2.0 regarding  CCNP track 4.0 will be started? is it 30th June 2000?  Shoaib  Thanks and regards,  Shoaib Waqar Network Engineer Bachelors of Engineering in Computer Systems(B.E.CS), MCP+I,MCSE,CCNA Sysnet Pakistan Pvt. Ltd.   Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1  __!
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Re: ACRC Survey

2000-06-21 Thread praveen walia

hi group,
hope it is not true because i skipped the survey and went straight to the
exam!
maybe thats why i failed . i was reallywell prepared got 768!  studied 4 mos
for this exam. have 1.5 yrs cisco exp also.

Ques:  when answering fill-in command q's,can you assume to be in correct
config mode?

praveen
Equant
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 exam.  It said that this info will be used to factor(grade) the exam.
 What
 is up with this?

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Re: ACRC Survey

2000-06-21 Thread praveen walia

hi group,
hope it is not true because i skipped the survey and went straight to the
exam!
maybe thats why i failed . i was reallywell prepared got 768!  studied 4 mos
for this exam. have 1.5 yrs cisco exp also.

Ques:  when answering fill-in command q's,can you assume to be in correct
config mode?

praveen
Equant
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 What
 is up with this?

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Re: ACRC and BSCN Exam

2000-06-15 Thread Kevin L. Kultgen

From what I can tell it's too much and not enough.  Too much more material
(Bridging, Queueing, etc) and not enough on the Routing protocols (OSPF,
EIGRP, BGP)...

HTH

--
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IRIS Systems Inc,  MCSP
Calgary, Alberta
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Re: ACRC V1 vs Routing V2 (BSCN)

2000-06-15 Thread John Wu

You are ready for ACRC, but not for the new Routing 2.0 exam.
If you attempt to write the Routing 2.0 exam using ACRC material, you're
going to be disappointed.

my .02
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 Are there major differences between ACRC and the Version 2 "Routing"
 curriculum?  I took an ACRC class and have been studying the Cisco ACRC
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RE: ACRC-BSCN-TEST

2000-06-14 Thread William E Gragido

isn't going to begin in August of this year?

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 Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 3:08 PM
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 Subject: ACRC-BSCN-TEST
 
 
 Dear All,
 Can anyone tell me that when the testing of Routing 2.0 regarding 
 CCNP track
 4.0 will be started? is it 30th June 2000?
 
 Shoaib
 
 Thanks and regards,
 
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 Network Engineer
 Bachelors of Engineering in Computer Systems(B.E.CS),
 MCP+I,MCSE,CCNA
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Re: ACRC-BSCN-TEST

2000-06-14 Thread C D

Routing 2.0 Exam 640-503 is currently live.

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 Can anyone tell me that when the testing of Routing 2.0 regarding CCNP
track
 4.0 will be started? is it 30th June 2000?

 Shoaib

 Thanks and regards,

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RE: ACRC-BSCN-TEST

2000-06-14 Thread John Wu
ACRC and BSCN exam outlines are very different.
BSCN (640-503) does not cover ISDN/DDR, Bridging, Appletalk
but does contain more OSPF, EIGRP, BGP
 William E Gragido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: 
isn't going to begin in August of this year? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shoaib Waqar Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 3:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ACRC-BSCN-TEST   Dear All, Can anyone tell me that when the testing of Routing 2.0 regarding  CCNP track 4.0 will be started? is it 30th June 2000?  Shoaib  Thanks and regards,  Shoaib Waqar Network Engineer Bachelors of Engineering in Computer Systems(B.E.CS), MCP+I,MCSE,CCNA Sysnet Pakistan Pvt. Ltd.   Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1  __!
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RE: ACRC

2000-06-08 Thread Francisco Muniz

Well, the CCDA is easy enough, and the 2.0 test are available now, so you
could (depending on your experience) shoot for some 2.0 as well.

Francisco Muniz.

"Babashola Madariola" [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió en el
mensaje de noticias [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Hi all
 Passed my ACRC this morning (first time) 834.
 Wasn't as bad as people said, but  had to read extra.
 All the same my thanks goes to every member of this group for every little
 contribution to knowledge.
 Keep it up!
 Thinking of going for CCDA and then start the new exams after 31st of
July; any
 suggestions?

 -- Forwarded by Babashola
Madariola/C/Africa/Mobil-Notes on
 06/07/2000 04:51 PM ---


 "Jacques Lee" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 06/07/2000 07:04:25 AM

 Please respond to "Jacques Lee" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 Finally passed the ACRC, the most difficult part of this exam is
 to have a true understand of the question. Have to duel with those
 poor wordings Most of the time were spend on figuring out
 what the question is talking about.

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Re: ACRC

2000-06-07 Thread Rah Sta

What study materials did you use to help pass the ACRC exam ? Thank You


   Raheem


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Hi all
Passed my ACRC this morning (first time) 834.
Wasn't as bad as people said, but  had to read extra.
All the same my thanks goes to every member of this group for every little
contribution to knowledge.
Keep it up!
Thinking of going for CCDA and then start the new exams after 31st of July; 
any
suggestions?

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Madariola/C/Africa/Mobil-Notes on
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Subject:  ACRC





Finally passed the ACRC, the most difficult part of this exam is
to have a true understand of the question. Have to duel with those
poor wordings Most of the time were spend on figuring out
what the question is talking about.

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Re: ACRC

2000-06-07 Thread Brad Ellis

a co-worker of mine took the test and just used boson...
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 Hi Acrc-ians,

 I am planning to take ACRC this month end and I am using the Cisco Course
 book for the same.

 Could anyone give me some tips as what to read and what to omit for the
exam
 point of view?.

 Any help is appreciated


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RE: ACRC completed, CLSC????

2000-06-06 Thread Bartlett, DS1

Cisco LAN Switching by Kenneth Clark and Kevin Hamilton

They write the book so it is actually enjoyable to read.  It covers a grunch
of topics which should come up in the test.  I have personally not taken the
exam, however I did attend the BCMSN course, and there were many
similiarities.

Good luck, and good score on ACRC.

Daryn P. Bartlett

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Hi all,

Can any one give me the details of CCDP2.0 exams. I have completed
CCNA1.0.  Do I
need to give CCNA 2.0??

Any other suggestions.

rgds,
Maqsood

Shoaib Waqar wrote:

 Hello dear fellows,

 This is my first mail to this nice mailing list. I am on CCNP 1.0
track, and i
 will try to complete it before 31st july, 2000. This list really
helped me to
 pass my ACRC 11.3 exam today with 863 marks, the passing score was
790. If
 anyone has any sort of help in giving the exam , he may contact me
through my
 email. Offcourse without a nice text book like Laura Chappel's
ACRC 11.3 and
 official ACRC cisco text book, i might not have completed this
certification.

 Well, my next target is CLSC, can anyone help me out on this, some
tips?? any
 study guides?? as it has no text book at all?.

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RE: ACRC passing marks

2000-06-01 Thread Louie Belt

Passsing score 790, # of questions 72.

Louie

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Could anybody pls tell me the passing marks for ACRC and how many questions
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Re: ACRC Boson Tests - Opinion

2000-05-31 Thread Rah Sta

Great insight. Does the Boson ACRC Test1 cover the 640 - 403 exam. How much 
does it cost. Thanks



 RahSta


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Subject: ACRC  Boson Tests - Opinion
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 10:06:30 -0500

The ACRC Test1 (318 Questions) from Boson was right on the money.  It's
syntax and devious nature may have actually exceeded that of Cisco.  It is 
a
good prep, especially helpful in teaching you to use clues from the
questions (and answers) to detect the wrong choices.

The ACRC Test2 (306 Questions) from Boson missed the mark.  It included a
number of questions that would be great for the CCNA test, but not
appropriate for the ACRC.  It also included a number of more obscure fill 
in
the blank commands that you will not face on the test (having to memorize
the exact syntax on some of these questions to prep for the "fill in the
blank" ACRC questions was a waste of time).  It was of little use in the
ACRC prep.


Final result using Laura Chappel, Exam Cram and Boson: 875 (790 required)

Any other opinions out there?

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Re: ACRC

2000-05-31 Thread Shaq Patel

This is something id surely like to know, i'll be taking this on Tuesday!!!

jeongwoo park wrote:

 Could anybody who had taken ACRC test tell me how hard it is, and what area
 I should prepare harder.
 I was told that there will be lots of "Fill in the blank" Qs.
 Any comments about ACRC would be appreciated.
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Re: ACRC Boson Tests - Opinion

2000-05-31 Thread info

I second this opinion.

"Belt, Louie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 The ACRC Test1 (318 Questions) from Boson was right on the money.  It's
 syntax and devious nature may have actually exceeded that of Cisco.  It is
a
 good prep, especially helpful in teaching you to use clues from the
 questions (and answers) to detect the wrong choices.

 The ACRC Test2 (306 Questions) from Boson missed the mark.  It included a
 number of questions that would be great for the CCNA test, but not
 appropriate for the ACRC.  It also included a number of more obscure fill
in
 the blank commands that you will not face on the test (having to memorize
 the exact syntax on some of these questions to prep for the "fill in the
 blank" ACRC questions was a waste of time).  It was of little use in the
 ACRC prep.


 Final result using Laura Chappel, Exam Cram and Boson: 875 (790 required)

 Any other opinions out there?

 labjr

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RE: ACRC Boson Tests - Opinion

2000-05-31 Thread Dave Hennen

some boson trivia.  I was checking out the cramsession message boards for
CIT this morning and one of the responses I read (it was an intelligent one,
too) was from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  He had the ccie letters in his .sig along
with some other stuff like mcse+i

so I guess they have a reasonable technical foundation for producing their
products, assuming he's not the only techie contributor.

dave "gotta pass cit real soon" h

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I second this opinion.

"Belt, Louie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 The ACRC Test1 (318 Questions) from Boson was right on the money.  It's
 syntax and devious nature may have actually exceeded that of Cisco.  It is
a
 good prep, especially helpful in teaching you to use clues from the
 questions (and answers) to detect the wrong choices.

 The ACRC Test2 (306 Questions) from Boson missed the mark.  It included a
 number of questions that would be great for the CCNA test, but not
 appropriate for the ACRC.  It also included a number of more obscure fill
in
 the blank commands that you will not face on the test (having to memorize
 the exact syntax on some of these questions to prep for the "fill in the
 blank" ACRC questions was a waste of time).  It was of little use in the
 ACRC prep.


 Final result using Laura Chappel, Exam Cram and Boson: 875 (790 required)

 Any other opinions out there?

 labjr

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RE: ACRC Boson Tests - Opinion

2000-05-31 Thread Louie Belt

It costs $29.00 and cover 640-403.

labjr

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Rah Sta
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Great insight. Does the Boson ACRC Test1 cover the 640 - 403 exam. How much
does it cost. Thanks



 RahSta


From: "Belt, Louie" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "Belt, Louie" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ACRC  Boson Tests - Opinion
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 10:06:30 -0500

The ACRC Test1 (318 Questions) from Boson was right on the money.  It's
syntax and devious nature may have actually exceeded that of Cisco.  It is
a
good prep, especially helpful in teaching you to use clues from the
questions (and answers) to detect the wrong choices.

The ACRC Test2 (306 Questions) from Boson missed the mark.  It included a
number of questions that would be great for the CCNA test, but not
appropriate for the ACRC.  It also included a number of more obscure fill
in
the blank commands that you will not face on the test (having to memorize
the exact syntax on some of these questions to prep for the "fill in the
blank" ACRC questions was a waste of time).  It was of little use in the
ACRC prep.


Final result using Laura Chappel, Exam Cram and Boson: 875 (790 required)

Any other opinions out there?

labjr

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RE: ACRC Boson Tests - Opinion

2000-05-31 Thread Rah Sta

Thank you for the feedback. I love groupstudy. PEACE


  RahSta


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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 15:27:44 -0500

It costs $29.00 and cover 640-403.

labjr

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Rah Sta
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Great insight. Does the Boson ACRC Test1 cover the 640 - 403 exam. How much
does it cost. Thanks



  RahSta


 From: "Belt, Louie" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: "Belt, Louie" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: ACRC  Boson Tests - Opinion
 Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 10:06:30 -0500
 
 The ACRC Test1 (318 Questions) from Boson was right on the money.  It's
 syntax and devious nature may have actually exceeded that of Cisco.  It 
is
 a
 good prep, especially helpful in teaching you to use clues from the
 questions (and answers) to detect the wrong choices.
 
 The ACRC Test2 (306 Questions) from Boson missed the mark.  It included a
 number of questions that would be great for the CCNA test, but not
 appropriate for the ACRC.  It also included a number of more obscure fill
 in
 the blank commands that you will not face on the test (having to memorize
 the exact syntax on some of these questions to prep for the "fill in the
 blank" ACRC questions was a waste of time).  It was of little use in the
 ACRC prep.
 
 
 Final result using Laura Chappel, Exam Cram and Boson: 875 (790 required)
 
 Any other opinions out there?
 
 labjr
 
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Re: ACRC

2000-05-31 Thread The Raven

ACRC is quite hard. 72 questions, 90 min, 790 to pass.
There're about 12 'fill in the blank' questions. The
area to concentrate on would be OSPF, EIGRP. Nothing
on AppleTalk. Barely passed last week with 805. I did
not use any book or attended any class. Only used some
notes found on the net and some demo mock exam from
Boson and Syngress.

Good luck in your endevour to better yourself and your
careeer. (Despite some recent negative comments about
paper CCNP vesus experience). 


--- Shaq Patel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is something id surely like to know, i'll be
 taking this on Tuesday!!!
 
 jeongwoo park wrote:
 
  Could anybody who had taken ACRC test tell me how
 hard it is, and what area
  I should prepare harder.
  I was told that there will be lots of "Fill in the
 blank" Qs.
  Any comments about ACRC would be appreciated.
  Thanks.
 
 


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RE: ACRC or BCMSN followup of ICND/CCNA 1.0 Exam

2000-05-31 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

If you're limited in the number of official courses you can take, my recommendation 
would be to self-study for the core CCxP exams (ACRC/BSCN, CLSC/BCMSN, CMTD/BCRAN) and 
take the CIT course--especially if you're limited in terms of hands-on equipment 
availability.  CIT gives you hands on on routers, the CAT 5000, and ISDN... AND its a 
great review of all three core courses.

Another (and less expensive) option that I rather like the Cisco Interactive Mentor 
(CIM) products.  Like all other training material out there, it has errors in the 
course material and is limited in terms of product simulation capabilities--but 
overall it's a good product.  I used the LAN switching CIM and found no difficulty 
working with the CAT 5000 when on CIT.


  -- Leigh Anne

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Trevor Corness
 Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 12:38 AM
 To: Cisco Groupstudy
 Subject: ACRC or BCMSN followup of ICND/CCNA 1.0 Exam
 
 
 Hello!
 
 Just an opinion question.  I have just completed my CCNA 1.0, by studying
 several sources for the CCNA 1.0 exam, as well as sitting the ICND course.
 I wrote the CCNA 1.0 exam a week ago today, and passed with a 
 score of 897.
 My dilemma now, is that I have a $2500 training credit with my 
 school (they
 cancelled my ASE training, and gave me $2500 credit), and I am trying to
 decide how to best spend it.  I want to take further Cisco 
 training, but am
 not sure whether to take the ACRC course, and write the exam.. to pass it,
 and continue for CCNP 1.0, or if I am properly prepared to take the BCMSN
 course, for CCNP 2.0.
 
 I am trying my best, to give this institute the smallest amount 
 of money as
 possible, and do my other training directly through GeoTrain/GKN. 
  ACRC will
 cost me $2495CDN, BCMSN is $2895CDN, so it would be an addition 
 $400 out of
 my pocket, which I don't particularly have, but it can be dealt 
 with if the
 course is really that much better.  For people that have done 
 these courses,
 which is the next logical step? Continue with my Router training, or jump
 into Switch config?
 
 If it helps, here is my score breakdown for the CCNA exam :
 
 OSI Reference: 85%
 WAN Protocols: 78%
 Cisco IOS: 92%
 Network Protocols: 86%
 Routing  : 83%
 Network Security : 60% (access-lists I'd imagine, I know i need to
 brush up on this)
 LAN Switching:100%
 
 Overall : 897 / 1000
 
 Whichever I decide to take, I will be preparing for both with 
 time, doing my
 best to pass the CCNP exams before retirement July 31.. BCMSN is in town
 June 19-23, ACRC would be July 10-14.. in which case I would be 
 spending the
 time studying CLSC, and CMTD.
 
 Any suggestions/comments would be greatly appreciated, both here in the
 list, and/or my private inbox.
 
  Regards,
   Trevor Corness, MCP+Internet MCSE CCNA
   Still looking for work in the Vancouver Area.. resume available 
 on request
 :)
 
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Re: ACRC Test question

2000-05-19 Thread J Springer

I heard Appletalk was on it.
JS

CCNA

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RE: ACRC Test question

2000-05-19 Thread Ledwidge, Feargal

All 3 are covered.

Feargal

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Could anyone tell me if the AppleTalk, ISDN and NLSP are covered in ACRC
test? I'm kind of wondering about that because those three sections are
Appendix in Laura Chapell's ACRC book . I'm gonna take the ACRC test in a
week, so it's really important to know if I need to study those.
Thanks in advance!
Daniel. CCNA



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Re: ACRC Test question

2000-05-19 Thread admin

Are you really CCNA certified?

Where would would you find anything related to Cisco Career Certification
Exams?

Whether or not the material covered in the Appendix is on this particular
exam, you should study the material, regardless. Are you studying just for
the exam or are you thirsting for knowledge?

ISDN is going to appear in either CMTD or BCRAN, you may as well learn it
now.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 1:44 PM
Subject: ACRC Test question


 Could anyone tell me if the AppleTalk, ISDN and NLSP are covered in ACRC
 test? I'm kind of wondering about that because those three sections are
 Appendix in Laura Chapell's ACRC book . I'm gonna take the ACRC test in a
 week, so it's really important to know if I need to study those.
 Thanks in advance!
 Daniel. CCNA



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