RE: CCIE Lab Candidate???? [Formerly no subject]
Perhaps I'm missing something (but I am in a bad mood this AM -- and this is my first Flame) -- or maybe you are?? But did you somehow get a waiver from John Chambers personally so you don't have to sit for and pass the CCIE written??? As for being a CCNP, CCDP, it would seem that by this time you would have at least some of the answers to your questions!! Normally, these questions are asked by newbies like CCNA Candidates, or those working towards the CCNP. But by the time one reaches the NP/DP level one would expect at least some familiarization with the process. Have you ever heard of the CCIE Blueprint?? But then again, this is just MY opinion Greg Macaulay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Ravert Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Gentlemen: I am a CCDP,CCNP ready to begin study for the R&S lab. Can anyone give us some practical direction as to : 1.) recommendations for formal study ( for ex. CCIE bootcamp) 2.) Is it advisable to have a home lab ? URL to an equipment list ? Insights as to ballpark costs? 3.) Advise from some veterans ? Thanks Brian Ravert _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab Candidate???? [Formerly no subject]
Greg Macaulay wrote: > > Perhaps I'm missing something (but I am in a bad mood this AM -- and this > is my first Flame) -- or maybe you are?? But did you somehow get a waiver > from John Chambers personally so you don't have to sit for and pass the CCIE > written??? I didn't see anywhere where the OP implied that he was exempt from the written exam. I would imagine that study for the lab would also be good preparation for the written exam, wouldn't you? > As for being a CCNP, CCDP, it would seem that by this time you would have at > least some of the answers to your questions!! He only asked 3 questions, and one was a plea for sage advice. I don't think that having a CCNP/DP gives someone insight about the quality of formal lab preparation programs, nor does having such certifications imply knowlege of the benefit of a home lab. On this list it seems to be common knowlege, but this poster seems to be new to the list. Lets put on our friendly faces. >Normally, these questions are > asked by newbies like CCNA Candidates, or those working towards the CCNP. > But by the time one reaches the NP/DP level one would expect at least some > familiarization with the process. > > Have you ever heard of the CCIE Blueprint?? What implies that he hasn't seen the blueprint? His questions aren't answered on the blueprint. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Lab Candidate???? [Formerly no subject]
Like I said -- I'm having a bad morning--apologies to all!! GM -Original Message- From: Drew Simonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 9:34 AM To: Greg Macaulay Cc: Brian Ravert; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Candidate???? [Formerly no subject] Greg Macaulay wrote: > > Perhaps I'm missing something (but I am in a bad mood this AM -- and this > is my first Flame) -- or maybe you are?? But did you somehow get a waiver > from John Chambers personally so you don't have to sit for and pass the CCIE > written??? I didn't see anywhere where the OP implied that he was exempt from the written exam. I would imagine that study for the lab would also be good preparation for the written exam, wouldn't you? > As for being a CCNP, CCDP, it would seem that by this time you would have at > least some of the answers to your questions!! He only asked 3 questions, and one was a plea for sage advice. I don't think that having a CCNP/DP gives someone insight about the quality of formal lab preparation programs, nor does having such certifications imply knowlege of the benefit of a home lab. On this list it seems to be common knowlege, but this poster seems to be new to the list. Lets put on our friendly faces. >Normally, these questions are > asked by newbies like CCNA Candidates, or those working towards the CCNP. > But by the time one reaches the NP/DP level one would expect at least some > familiarization with the process. > > Have you ever heard of the CCIE Blueprint?? What implies that he hasn't seen the blueprint? His questions aren't answered on the blueprint. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Lab Candidate???? [Formerly no subject]
Hmmm.someone woke up in a pissy mood today! I won't flame you back because I had a Monday just like that last week and lots of people mentioned it to me. Studying for the lab and studying for the written aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, using lab equipment helps to solidify understanding of certain concepts that will be on the written. It's *always* better to have done something than to have read something. Also, perhaps the original poster is like me: limited budget and wants to get the most bang for the buck. If a large number of respondents said 'Forget a home lab, go with Joe Shmoe's Labs', then he could budget accordingly. In my opinion, if you've got about $10,000-12,000 I'd suggest getting your own stuff to play with at home. It's tough to beat the experience you get when you can play around without worrying about breaking a production network! :-) I haven't had any coffee yet so I'll cut this short and let some others make more specific suggestions. Good luck! John >>> "Greg Macaulay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4/5/01 6:34:35 AM >>> Perhaps I'm missing something (but I am in a bad mood this AM -- and this is my first Flame) -- or maybe you are?? But did you somehow get a waiver from John Chambers personally so you don't have to sit for and pass the CCIE written??? As for being a CCNP, CCDP, it would seem that by this time you would have at least some of the answers to your questions!! Normally, these questions are asked by newbies like CCNA Candidates, or those working towards the CCNP. But by the time one reaches the NP/DP level one would expect at least some familiarization with the process. Have you ever heard of the CCIE Blueprint?? But then again, this is just MY opinion Greg Macaulay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Ravert Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Gentlemen: I am a CCDP,CCNP ready to begin study for the R&S lab. Can anyone give us some practical direction as to : 1.) recommendations for formal study ( for ex. CCIE bootcamp) 2.) Is it advisable to have a home lab ? URL to an equipment list ? Insights as to ballpark costs? 3.) Advise from some veterans ? Thanks Brian Ravert _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Lab Candidate???? [Formerly no subject]
John, I got both your emails, sorry that I did not respond to you right away. Listen, when you are ready, let me know. Like I said before, we are always looking for talent. Later, Will -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Neiberger Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 9:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE Lab Candidate [Formerly no subject] Hmmm.someone woke up in a pissy mood today! I won't flame you back because I had a Monday just like that last week and lots of people mentioned it to me. Studying for the lab and studying for the written aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, using lab equipment helps to solidify understanding of certain concepts that will be on the written. It's *always* better to have done something than to have read something. Also, perhaps the original poster is like me: limited budget and wants to get the most bang for the buck. If a large number of respondents said 'Forget a home lab, go with Joe Shmoe's Labs', then he could budget accordingly. In my opinion, if you've got about $10,000-12,000 I'd suggest getting your own stuff to play with at home. It's tough to beat the experience you get when you can play around without worrying about breaking a production network! :-) I haven't had any coffee yet so I'll cut this short and let some others make more specific suggestions. Good luck! John >>> "Greg Macaulay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4/5/01 6:34:35 AM >>> Perhaps I'm missing something (but I am in a bad mood this AM -- and this is my first Flame) -- or maybe you are?? But did you somehow get a waiver from John Chambers personally so you don't have to sit for and pass the CCIE written??? As for being a CCNP, CCDP, it would seem that by this time you would have at least some of the answers to your questions!! Normally, these questions are asked by newbies like CCNA Candidates, or those working towards the CCNP. But by the time one reaches the NP/DP level one would expect at least some familiarization with the process. Have you ever heard of the CCIE Blueprint?? But then again, this is just MY opinion Greg Macaulay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Ravert Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Gentlemen: I am a CCDP,CCNP ready to begin study for the R&S lab. Can anyone give us some practical direction as to : 1.) recommendations for formal study ( for ex. CCIE bootcamp) 2.) Is it advisable to have a home lab ? URL to an equipment list ? Insights as to ballpark costs? 3.) Advise from some veterans ? Thanks Brian Ravert _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
