RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]

2002-04-04 Thread Andy Barkl

There is no SNA or Appletalk on the new CID exam. Cisco wouldn't lie to
you.


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STRAND Scott
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Subject: Re: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]

Thanks for all the book suggestions. (see my original post). I do
already
have TDND as well as the CID exam Cert book. Now for the
next question:
I noticed in the exam topics for CID that there is no longer a mention
of
SNA and appletalk. Anyone who has taken the test recently,
can you verify this?

Thanks,
Scott
CCNP, CCDA




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RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]

2002-04-04 Thread Bernard

Although SNA is said to have been removed, the feedbacks that I receive
daily, tell me otherwise.
There are indeed SNA questions in the new CID exam. I am sure these are
the questions that Cisco has failed to remove from the database
completely, but they show up in the real life exams anyway, and you
should be aware of that. 

You may certainly bypass AppleTalk, IPX and Stratacom questions when
practicing for the CID exam, but please do not discount SNA questions
yet.

Here is the URL to the new CID objectives:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_
exams/640-025.html

Please watch the wrap.


Bernard Omrani
Author of Boson CID#1




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 There is no SNA or Appletalk on the new CID exam. Cisco wouldn't lie
to
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RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]

2002-04-04 Thread Andy Barkl

I took the new exam about 6 weeks ago and didn't see any SNA questions
and it is not listed on the exam objectives page.


-Original Message-
From: Bernard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'Andy Barkl'
Subject: RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]

Although SNA is said to have been removed, the feedbacks that I receive
daily, tell me otherwise.
There are indeed SNA questions in the new CID exam. I am sure these are
the questions that Cisco has failed to remove from the database
completely, but they show up in the real life exams anyway, and you
should be aware of that. 

You may certainly bypass AppleTalk, IPX and Stratacom questions when
practicing for the CID exam, but please do not discount SNA questions
yet.

Here is the URL to the new CID objectives:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_
exams/640-025.html

Please watch the wrap.


Bernard Omrani
Author of Boson CID#1




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 Andy Barkl
 Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 5:52 AM
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 There is no SNA or Appletalk on the new CID exam. Cisco wouldn't lie
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Re: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]

2002-04-03 Thread STRAND Scott

Thanks for all the book suggestions. (see my original post). I do already
have TDND as well as the CID exam Cert book. Now for the
next question:
I noticed in the exam topics for CID that there is no longer a mention of
SNA and appletalk. Anyone who has taken the test recently,
can you verify this?

Thanks,
Scott
CCNP, CCDA

Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

 At 10:07 AM 4/2/02, Cebuano wrote:
 Priscilla,
 Maybe it's time to switch publishers like Howard's. Unless your upcoming
 book prevents Cisco from doing what they did to TDND's contract.
 BTW - when is the next book due for release?

 Hey, you guys keep giving me a chance to get in some free advertising! ;-)

 My next book is about troubleshooting. It is written (with Joseph
 Bardwell's help), but the publisher (Wiley) is still doing the production.
 Stay tuned. Thanks for asking. There's more info here:

 http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/

 Hopefully the date that Amazon is reporting (July) is worst case!

 By the way, I approve of Robert Padjen's book on CID also. I wrote a good
 review of it for Amazon. My review is sincere and I'm not at all
 compensated for it (in fact, sort of the opposite! ;-)

 Priscilla

 Elmer
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
 To:
 Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 2:12 AM
 Subject: RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]
 
 
   At 10:03 PM 4/1/02, Robert Padjen wrote:
   Top Down is a great book for DCN, but it's not really
   for the CID. I'll go out on a limb and suggest mine (
   ;) ). Sybex CID Study Guide.
  
   I'm sure you'll get flamed for advertising your own book, but I'm going
 to
   give you a hard time also for lack of accuracy. ;-)
  
   Top-Down Network Design is not a certification book, but it is based on
 the
   work I did on both the Designing Cisco Networks (DCN) and the Cisco
   Internetwork Design (CID) training classes when I worked for Cisco.
  
   I have heard that Cisco has made CID match my Top-Down Network Design
 book
   even more closely than before. I know for a fact that the description
of
   the CID course is taken from my Top-Down Network Design book. I did a
   double-take when I read the following text from the description of the
 CID
   class here:
  

http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/CELC/index.cgi?action=Cours
 eDescCOURSE_ID=321
  
   Good internetwork design recognizes a customer's requirements embody
 many
   business and technical goals, including requirements for availability,
   scalability, affordability, security, and manageability. Difficult
   internetwork design choices and tradeoffs must be made when designing
the
   internetwork before any physical devices or media are selected.
  
   CID covers typical internetwork design business and technical goals and
   constraints. CID details the top-down design process and the importance
 of
   using systematic methods for internetwork design. Using systematic
 methods
   helps you, the internetwork designer, to keep pace with changing
   technologies and customer requirements.
  
   I said to myself, Hey I wrote that. Oh yeah, I should have had a
lawyer
   look at my book contract. Cisco can use anything I wrote in the book.
   Bummer. or maybe not?? ;-]
  
   Priscilla
  
   To save a buck, if you
   feel comfortable with the material, you may want to
   forgo the big book and use the Exam Notes (used books
   are out there too). The new test might focus on
   multicast more than the books reflect, and they may
   have less StrataCom and ATM, but its close enough.
   640-025 (the exam the book was written to) is still
   the current version.
   
   Good luck.
   
   
   --- Andy Barkl  wrote:
 The book is not that great. It has many errors and
 omissions.
 I recommend the Cisco Press Top-Down Network Design
 book for the new CID
 exam.


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 STRAND Scott
 Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:32 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]

 Has anyone who has taken the CID exam used the Cisco
 CID Exam
 Certification
 Guide. (Michael Crane, Reggie Terell). I was wanting
 to
 get some opinions on this book, especially the
 practice test on the CD.
 I
 intend to use BOSON as well.

 Thanks,
 Scott
 CCNP, CCDA

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Re: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]

2002-04-03 Thread Natarajan Sankaran

Hi

I took exam on 04/01 (this Monday).  No questions were about SNA, AT.  But i
could find
some questions were from DeskTop protocol design and lots from WAN. I took
the same
exam on 01/02, that time lots of questions from SNA. Recently exam duration
is about 90
Minutes (last time 120 Minutes - 100 questions) 75 questions.

Hope above helps. All the best.

Sankaran

STRAND Scott wrote:

 Thanks for all the book suggestions. (see my original post). I do already
 have TDND as well as the CID exam Cert book. Now for the
 next question:
 I noticed in the exam topics for CID that there is no longer a mention of
 SNA and appletalk. Anyone who has taken the test recently,
 can you verify this?

 Thanks,
 Scott
 CCNP, CCDA

 Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

  At 10:07 AM 4/2/02, Cebuano wrote:
  Priscilla,
  Maybe it's time to switch publishers like Howard's. Unless your upcoming
  book prevents Cisco from doing what they did to TDND's contract.
  BTW - when is the next book due for release?
 
  Hey, you guys keep giving me a chance to get in some free advertising!
;-)
 
  My next book is about troubleshooting. It is written (with Joseph
  Bardwell's help), but the publisher (Wiley) is still doing the
production.
  Stay tuned. Thanks for asking. There's more info here:
 
  http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/
 
  Hopefully the date that Amazon is reporting (July) is worst case!
 
  By the way, I approve of Robert Padjen's book on CID also. I wrote a good
  review of it for Amazon. My review is sincere and I'm not at all
  compensated for it (in fact, sort of the opposite! ;-)
 
  Priscilla
 
  Elmer
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
  To:
  Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 2:12 AM
  Subject: RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]
  
  
At 10:03 PM 4/1/02, Robert Padjen wrote:
Top Down is a great book for DCN, but it's not really
for the CID. I'll go out on a limb and suggest mine (
;) ). Sybex CID Study Guide.
   
I'm sure you'll get flamed for advertising your own book, but I'm
going
  to
give you a hard time also for lack of accuracy. ;-)
   
Top-Down Network Design is not a certification book, but it is based
on
  the
work I did on both the Designing Cisco Networks (DCN) and the Cisco
Internetwork Design (CID) training classes when I worked for Cisco.
   
I have heard that Cisco has made CID match my Top-Down Network Design
  book
even more closely than before. I know for a fact that the description
 of
the CID course is taken from my Top-Down Network Design book. I did a
double-take when I read the following text from the description of
the
  CID
class here:
   
 

http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/CELC/index.cgi?action=Cours
  eDescCOURSE_ID=321
   
Good internetwork design recognizes a customer's requirements embody
  many
business and technical goals, including requirements for
availability,
scalability, affordability, security, and manageability. Difficult
internetwork design choices and tradeoffs must be made when designing
 the
internetwork before any physical devices or media are selected.
   
CID covers typical internetwork design business and technical goals
and
constraints. CID details the top-down design process and the
importance
  of
using systematic methods for internetwork design. Using systematic
  methods
helps you, the internetwork designer, to keep pace with changing
technologies and customer requirements.
   
I said to myself, Hey I wrote that. Oh yeah, I should have had a
 lawyer
look at my book contract. Cisco can use anything I wrote in the book.
Bummer. or maybe not?? ;-]
   
Priscilla
   
To save a buck, if you
feel comfortable with the material, you may want to
forgo the big book and use the Exam Notes (used books
are out there too). The new test might focus on
multicast more than the books reflect, and they may
have less StrataCom and ATM, but its close enough.
640-025 (the exam the book was written to) is still
the current version.

Good luck.


--- Andy Barkl  wrote:
  The book is not that great. It has many errors and
  omissions.
  I recommend the Cisco Press Top-Down Network Design
  book for the new CID
  exam.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
  STRAND Scott
  Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:32 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]
 
  Has anyone who has taken the CID exam used the Cisco
  CID Exam
  Certification
  Guide. (Michael Crane, Reggie Terell). I was wanting
  to
  get some opinions on this book, especially the
  practice test on the CD.
  I
  intend to use BOSON as well.
 
  Thanks,
  Scott
  CCNP, CCDA
 
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Re: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]

2002-04-02 Thread Cebuano

Priscilla,
Maybe it's time to switch publishers like Howard's. Unless your upcoming
book prevents Cisco from doing what they did to TDND's contract.
BTW - when is the next book due for release?

Elmer

- Original Message -
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 2:12 AM
Subject: RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]


 At 10:03 PM 4/1/02, Robert Padjen wrote:
 Top Down is a great book for DCN, but it's not really
 for the CID. I'll go out on a limb and suggest mine (
 ;) ). Sybex CID Study Guide.

 I'm sure you'll get flamed for advertising your own book, but I'm going to
 give you a hard time also for lack of accuracy. ;-)

 Top-Down Network Design is not a certification book, but it is based on
the
 work I did on both the Designing Cisco Networks (DCN) and the Cisco
 Internetwork Design (CID) training classes when I worked for Cisco.

 I have heard that Cisco has made CID match my Top-Down Network Design book
 even more closely than before. I know for a fact that the description of
 the CID course is taken from my Top-Down Network Design book. I did a
 double-take when I read the following text from the description of the CID
 class here:

http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/CELC/index.cgi?action=Cours
eDescCOURSE_ID=321

 Good internetwork design recognizes a customer's requirements embody many
 business and technical goals, including requirements for availability,
 scalability, affordability, security, and manageability. Difficult
 internetwork design choices and tradeoffs must be made when designing the
 internetwork before any physical devices or media are selected.

 CID covers typical internetwork design business and technical goals and
 constraints. CID details the top-down design process and the importance of
 using systematic methods for internetwork design. Using systematic methods
 helps you, the internetwork designer, to keep pace with changing
 technologies and customer requirements.

 I said to myself, Hey I wrote that. Oh yeah, I should have had a lawyer
 look at my book contract. Cisco can use anything I wrote in the book.
 Bummer. or maybe not?? ;-]

 Priscilla

 To save a buck, if you
 feel comfortable with the material, you may want to
 forgo the big book and use the Exam Notes (used books
 are out there too). The new test might focus on
 multicast more than the books reflect, and they may
 have less StrataCom and ATM, but its close enough.
 640-025 (the exam the book was written to) is still
 the current version.
 
 Good luck.
 
 
 --- Andy Barkl  wrote:
   The book is not that great. It has many errors and
   omissions.
   I recommend the Cisco Press Top-Down Network Design
   book for the new CID
   exam.
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
   STRAND Scott
   Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:32 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]
  
   Has anyone who has taken the CID exam used the Cisco
   CID Exam
   Certification
   Guide. (Michael Crane, Reggie Terell). I was wanting
   to
   get some opinions on this book, especially the
   practice test on the CD.
   I
   intend to use BOSON as well.
  
   Thanks,
   Scott
   CCNP, CCDA
  
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RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]

2002-04-02 Thread William Gragido

Here is my list for the CID:

DCN
Padjen book
Top Down


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Priscilla Oppenheimer
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]


At 10:03 PM 4/1/02, Robert Padjen wrote:
Top Down is a great book for DCN, but it's not really
for the CID. I'll go out on a limb and suggest mine (
;) ). Sybex CID Study Guide.

I'm sure you'll get flamed for advertising your own book, but I'm going to
give you a hard time also for lack of accuracy. ;-)

Top-Down Network Design is not a certification book, but it is based on the
work I did on both the Designing Cisco Networks (DCN) and the Cisco
Internetwork Design (CID) training classes when I worked for Cisco.

I have heard that Cisco has made CID match my Top-Down Network Design book
even more closely than before. I know for a fact that the description of
the CID course is taken from my Top-Down Network Design book. I did a
double-take when I read the following text from the description of the CID
class here:
http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/CELC/index.cgi?action=Cours
eDescCOURSE_ID=321

Good internetwork design recognizes a customer's requirements embody many
business and technical goals, including requirements for availability,
scalability, affordability, security, and manageability. Difficult
internetwork design choices and tradeoffs must be made when designing the
internetwork before any physical devices or media are selected.

CID covers typical internetwork design business and technical goals and
constraints. CID details the top-down design process and the importance of
using systematic methods for internetwork design. Using systematic methods
helps you, the internetwork designer, to keep pace with changing
technologies and customer requirements.

I said to myself, Hey I wrote that. Oh yeah, I should have had a lawyer
look at my book contract. Cisco can use anything I wrote in the book.
Bummer. or maybe not?? ;-]

Priscilla

To save a buck, if you
feel comfortable with the material, you may want to
forgo the big book and use the Exam Notes (used books
are out there too). The new test might focus on
multicast more than the books reflect, and they may
have less StrataCom and ATM, but its close enough.
640-025 (the exam the book was written to) is still
the current version.

Good luck.


--- Andy Barkl  wrote:
  The book is not that great. It has many errors and
  omissions.
  I recommend the Cisco Press Top-Down Network Design
  book for the new CID
  exam.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
  STRAND Scott
  Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:32 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]
 
  Has anyone who has taken the CID exam used the Cisco
  CID Exam
  Certification
  Guide. (Michael Crane, Reggie Terell). I was wanting
  to
  get some opinions on this book, especially the
  practice test on the CD.
  I
  intend to use BOSON as well.
 
  Thanks,
  Scott
  CCNP, CCDA
 
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RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]

2002-04-02 Thread William Gragido

I have that book, it is great!  Robert does an excellent job outlining the
intricacies of the CID.  I am taking soon, (probably in May after the
CISSP).  Thanks for the great book Robert!

Regards,

Will

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Robert Padjen
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 9:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]


Top Down is a great book for DCN, but it's not really
for the CID. I'll go out on a limb and suggest mine (
;) ). Sybex CID Study Guide. To save a buck, if you
feel comfortable with the material, you may want to
forgo the big book and use the Exam Notes (used books
are out there too). The new test might focus on
multicast more than the books reflect, and they may
have less StrataCom and ATM, but its close enough.
640-025 (the exam the book was written to) is still
the current version.

Good luck.


--- Andy Barkl  wrote:
 The book is not that great. It has many errors and
 omissions.
 I recommend the Cisco Press Top-Down Network Design
 book for the new CID
 exam.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
 STRAND Scott
 Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:32 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]

 Has anyone who has taken the CID exam used the Cisco
 CID Exam
 Certification
 Guide. (Michael Crane, Reggie Terell). I was wanting
 to
 get some opinions on this book, especially the
 practice test on the CD.
 I
 intend to use BOSON as well.

 Thanks,
 Scott
 CCNP, CCDA

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Re: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]

2002-04-02 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 10:07 AM 4/2/02, Cebuano wrote:
Priscilla,
Maybe it's time to switch publishers like Howard's. Unless your upcoming
book prevents Cisco from doing what they did to TDND's contract.
BTW - when is the next book due for release?

Hey, you guys keep giving me a chance to get in some free advertising! ;-)

My next book is about troubleshooting. It is written (with Joseph 
Bardwell's help), but the publisher (Wiley) is still doing the production. 
Stay tuned. Thanks for asking. There's more info here:

http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/

Hopefully the date that Amazon is reporting (July) is worst case!

By the way, I approve of Robert Padjen's book on CID also. I wrote a good 
review of it for Amazon. My review is sincere and I'm not at all 
compensated for it (in fact, sort of the opposite! ;-)

Priscilla



Elmer

- Original Message -
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
To:
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 2:12 AM
Subject: RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]


  At 10:03 PM 4/1/02, Robert Padjen wrote:
  Top Down is a great book for DCN, but it's not really
  for the CID. I'll go out on a limb and suggest mine (
  ;) ). Sybex CID Study Guide.
 
  I'm sure you'll get flamed for advertising your own book, but I'm going
to
  give you a hard time also for lack of accuracy. ;-)
 
  Top-Down Network Design is not a certification book, but it is based on
the
  work I did on both the Designing Cisco Networks (DCN) and the Cisco
  Internetwork Design (CID) training classes when I worked for Cisco.
 
  I have heard that Cisco has made CID match my Top-Down Network Design
book
  even more closely than before. I know for a fact that the description of
  the CID course is taken from my Top-Down Network Design book. I did a
  double-take when I read the following text from the description of the
CID
  class here:
 
http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/CELC/index.cgi?action=Cours
eDescCOURSE_ID=321
 
  Good internetwork design recognizes a customer's requirements embody
many
  business and technical goals, including requirements for availability,
  scalability, affordability, security, and manageability. Difficult
  internetwork design choices and tradeoffs must be made when designing the
  internetwork before any physical devices or media are selected.
 
  CID covers typical internetwork design business and technical goals and
  constraints. CID details the top-down design process and the importance
of
  using systematic methods for internetwork design. Using systematic
methods
  helps you, the internetwork designer, to keep pace with changing
  technologies and customer requirements.
 
  I said to myself, Hey I wrote that. Oh yeah, I should have had a lawyer
  look at my book contract. Cisco can use anything I wrote in the book.
  Bummer. or maybe not?? ;-]
 
  Priscilla
 
  To save a buck, if you
  feel comfortable with the material, you may want to
  forgo the big book and use the Exam Notes (used books
  are out there too). The new test might focus on
  multicast more than the books reflect, and they may
  have less StrataCom and ATM, but its close enough.
  640-025 (the exam the book was written to) is still
  the current version.
  
  Good luck.
  
  
  --- Andy Barkl  wrote:
The book is not that great. It has many errors and
omissions.
I recommend the Cisco Press Top-Down Network Design
book for the new CID
exam.
   
   
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Has anyone who has taken the CID exam used the Cisco
CID Exam
Certification
Guide. (Michael Crane, Reggie Terell). I was wanting
to
get some opinions on this book, especially the
practice test on the CD.
I
intend to use BOSON as well.
   
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Scott
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RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]

2002-04-01 Thread Robert Padjen

Top Down is a great book for DCN, but it's not really
for the CID. I'll go out on a limb and suggest mine (
;) ). Sybex CID Study Guide. To save a buck, if you
feel comfortable with the material, you may want to
forgo the big book and use the Exam Notes (used books
are out there too). The new test might focus on
multicast more than the books reflect, and they may
have less StrataCom and ATM, but its close enough.
640-025 (the exam the book was written to) is still
the current version.

Good luck.


--- Andy Barkl  wrote:
 The book is not that great. It has many errors and
 omissions. 
 I recommend the Cisco Press Top-Down Network Design
 book for the new CID
 exam.
 
 
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 Has anyone who has taken the CID exam used the Cisco
 CID Exam
 Certification
 Guide. (Michael Crane, Reggie Terell). I was wanting
 to
 get some opinions on this book, especially the
 practice test on the CD.
 I
 intend to use BOSON as well.
 
 Thanks,
 Scott
 CCNP, CCDA
 
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RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]

2002-04-01 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 10:03 PM 4/1/02, Robert Padjen wrote:
Top Down is a great book for DCN, but it's not really
for the CID. I'll go out on a limb and suggest mine (
;) ). Sybex CID Study Guide.

I'm sure you'll get flamed for advertising your own book, but I'm going to 
give you a hard time also for lack of accuracy. ;-)

Top-Down Network Design is not a certification book, but it is based on the 
work I did on both the Designing Cisco Networks (DCN) and the Cisco 
Internetwork Design (CID) training classes when I worked for Cisco.

I have heard that Cisco has made CID match my Top-Down Network Design book 
even more closely than before. I know for a fact that the description of 
the CID course is taken from my Top-Down Network Design book. I did a 
double-take when I read the following text from the description of the CID 
class here:
http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/CELC/index.cgi?action=CourseDescCOURSE_ID=321

Good internetwork design recognizes a customer's requirements embody many 
business and technical goals, including requirements for availability, 
scalability, affordability, security, and manageability. Difficult 
internetwork design choices and tradeoffs must be made when designing the 
internetwork before any physical devices or media are selected.

CID covers typical internetwork design business and technical goals and 
constraints. CID details the top-down design process and the importance of 
using systematic methods for internetwork design. Using systematic methods 
helps you, the internetwork designer, to keep pace with changing 
technologies and customer requirements.

I said to myself, Hey I wrote that. Oh yeah, I should have had a lawyer 
look at my book contract. Cisco can use anything I wrote in the book. 
Bummer. or maybe not?? ;-]

Priscilla

To save a buck, if you
feel comfortable with the material, you may want to
forgo the big book and use the Exam Notes (used books
are out there too). The new test might focus on
multicast more than the books reflect, and they may
have less StrataCom and ATM, but its close enough.
640-025 (the exam the book was written to) is still
the current version.

Good luck.


--- Andy Barkl  wrote:
  The book is not that great. It has many errors and
  omissions.
  I recommend the Cisco Press Top-Down Network Design
  book for the new CID
  exam.
 
 
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  Subject: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]
 
  Has anyone who has taken the CID exam used the Cisco
  CID Exam
  Certification
  Guide. (Michael Crane, Reggie Terell). I was wanting
  to
  get some opinions on this book, especially the
  practice test on the CD.
  I
  intend to use BOSON as well.
 
  Thanks,
  Scott
  CCNP, CCDA
 
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RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]

2002-03-27 Thread Andy Barkl

The book is not that great. It has many errors and omissions. 
I recommend the Cisco Press Top-Down Network Design book for the new CID
exam.


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Has anyone who has taken the CID exam used the Cisco CID Exam
Certification
Guide. (Michael Crane, Reggie Terell). I was wanting to
get some opinions on this book, especially the practice test on the CD.
I
intend to use BOSON as well.

Thanks,
Scott
CCNP, CCDA

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