Re: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]

2003-01-15 Thread Kim Graham
Agreed.  No use in letting it go stail.  It was hard work to obtain and not
as much hopefully to keep.

Kim / Zukee


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Re: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]

2003-01-15 Thread Kevin O'Gilvie
Go Oletu!!
- Original Message -
From: "Godswill Oletu" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]


> I completed the CSS1 last year and will be going for the SAFE before the
> expiration in September. I will want to take the SAFE exam as close as
> possible to the expiration.
>
> My advice is, since you have come so close, please go ahead and complete
> your S! then the SAFE exam. Agreed your current job does not require those
> skills. However, that give you more confidence for new openings in that
> field, moreso of what use will it be to you after going this far and for
> failure to move ahead, Cisco render your CSS1 null and void. It then
means,
> in time to come, if you pick up the interest in the Cisco Security track,
> you will have to start from beginning all over again.
>
> my 2 cents.
>
> Regards.
> Godswill
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Hanna, Keith"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 6:26 AM
> Subject: RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]
>
>
> > Thinking about it at the minute.
> > I completed CSS1 the same week Cisco announced the CCSP, so I only need
to
> > take the SAFE exam, but I'm not sure yet if I'll bother.
> > My current position doesn't deal as much with security as I'd like
> > (corporate team to do that), and if I changed positions/company, I
suppose
> > it would depend on what I was doing in the new one.
> >
> > I am tempted to 'just do it', but I tend not to be very motivated when
> > there's no reward
> >
> > KEith
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kim Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 14 January 2003 10:38
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]
> >
> >
> > Maybe I should have asked if anyone is studying for the CCSP?  What
exams
> > have you accomplished and what is your next step?  I may be amungst the
> > group of first participants in this set of exams (v3) and others are
> waiting
> > to get information concerning the exams before attempting.  *grins*
> >
> > Kim / Zukee




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Re: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]

2003-01-15 Thread Godswill Oletu
I completed the CSS1 last year and will be going for the SAFE before the
expiration in September. I will want to take the SAFE exam as close as
possible to the expiration.

My advice is, since you have come so close, please go ahead and complete
your S! then the SAFE exam. Agreed your current job does not require those
skills. However, that give you more confidence for new openings in that
field, moreso of what use will it be to you after going this far and for
failure to move ahead, Cisco render your CSS1 null and void. It then means,
in time to come, if you pick up the interest in the Cisco Security track,
you will have to start from beginning all over again.

my 2 cents.

Regards.
Godswill




- Original Message - 
From: "Hanna, Keith" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 6:26 AM
Subject: RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]


> Thinking about it at the minute.
> I completed CSS1 the same week Cisco announced the CCSP, so I only need to
> take the SAFE exam, but I'm not sure yet if I'll bother.
> My current position doesn't deal as much with security as I'd like
> (corporate team to do that), and if I changed positions/company, I suppose
> it would depend on what I was doing in the new one.
>
> I am tempted to 'just do it', but I tend not to be very motivated when
> there's no reward
>
> KEith
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kim Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 14 January 2003 10:38
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]
>
>
> Maybe I should have asked if anyone is studying for the CCSP?  What exams
> have you accomplished and what is your next step?  I may be amungst the
> group of first participants in this set of exams (v3) and others are
waiting
> to get information concerning the exams before attempting.  *grins*
>
> Kim / Zukee




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RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]

2003-01-14 Thread Andrew Larkins
Only reason for the earlier exam from my side was the book we had. And also
to get me off my butt - sometimes I can be a little lazy!!.
At least with a deadline, I have to write!!

-Original Message-
From: Kim Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 January 2003 19:36
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]


Great to know I am not alone.  I noticed you all were doing the earlier exam
and not the new one.  Any particular reason?  From my understanding you can
mix versions of tests to come to the same conclusion.

Andrew I follow your same thought patterns to a point.  It would not feel
right getting a cert without the hands on knowledge or the knowledge that 
you will use the cert once you obtain it. But there are many that enjoy the
challenge just to see if they can do it. Personally I cannot fault anyone
that enjoys those challenges in life.  But using what you learn is
satisfying.

Keith if you do attempt the SAFE exam make sure you know the SAFE
whitepaper.  From what I have heard the blueprint and that document help you
get past the exam.   As for an award the extra signature could be one, or
the satisfaction that you passed?  How about taking yourself out to dinner
or enjoying a new "toy".No one ever said you could not reward yourself
for a job well done. *grins*

Good luck to everyone on their exams.
Congrats to Andrew are on the way for the new baby.  There are others that
have taken that same time to accomplish their CCIE.  Maybe check up with
them to see how they handled the 1 hour study sessions inbetween baby watch.

Kim / Zukee




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Re: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]

2003-01-14 Thread Marcin Strzyzewski
Andrew Larkins wrote:

>I currently only have IDS (9E0-572) to go and am booked for next week
>Thursday at 10am and then I am CSS1 - apparently still valid until end Feb
>2003. I will write the SAFE exam my early Feb 2003. Then I should be CCSP.
>  
>
just my 0.02 euro:
i completed CSS1 and passed some months ago ccie sec written
now in 2..maybe 3 weeks i will try CSI.
and in paraller  im studying for lab with ccbootcamp labs



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Institute of Telecommunication




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RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]

2003-01-14 Thread Kim Graham
Great to know I am not alone.  I noticed you all were doing the earlier exam
and not the new one.  Any particular reason?  From my understanding you can
mix versions of tests to come to the same conclusion.

Andrew I follow your same thought patterns to a point.  It would not feel
right getting a cert without the hands on knowledge or the knowledge that 
you will use the cert once you obtain it. But there are many that enjoy the
challenge just to see if they can do it. Personally I cannot fault anyone
that enjoys those challenges in life.  But using what you learn is satisfying.

Keith if you do attempt the SAFE exam make sure you know the SAFE
whitepaper.  From what I have heard the blueprint and that document help you
get past the exam.   As for an award the extra signature could be one, or
the satisfaction that you passed?  How about taking yourself out to dinner
or enjoying a new "toy".No one ever said you could not reward yourself
for a job well done. *grins*

Good luck to everyone on their exams.
Congrats to Andrew are on the way for the new baby.  There are others that
have taken that same time to accomplish their CCIE.  Maybe check up with
them to see how they handled the 1 hour study sessions inbetween baby watch.

Kim / Zukee




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RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]

2003-01-14 Thread Hanna, Keith
Pass mark for me was 800 (back in November)

There were no simulation questions on mine, but a combination of all others.
I was asked about signatures, but tended to be general type questions rather
than absolute specifics.

more info can be found at:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exams/9E0-572.html

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 January 2003 12:29
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]


Hi,

Me to appearing for CSIDS (9E0-572) .. do u know what sort of questions wud
appear. I mean wud there be Match the following, Fill in the blanks or is it
stimulation based one? I don't see much of commands (lots appeared in my
MCNS exam though). What all topics to be prepared on CSPM and IDS module for
sure I feel wud be tested a lot but other than that will there be any?

How much is the pass mark? 

Any info is apprecitated,
Thanks.
Murali

 -Original Message-
From:   Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Tuesday, January 14, 2003 4:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]

I currently only have IDS (9E0-572) to go and am booked for next week
Thursday at 10am and then I am CSS1 - apparently still valid until end Feb
2003. I will write the SAFE exam my early Feb 2003. Then I should be CCSP.

After that a short break and then onto CCIE - somehow I think with the kid
on the way in 2 months, I will have plenty of sleepless nights and thus,
time to study!!!

This should be interesting!

Andrew


-Original Message-
From: Hanna, Keith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 January 2003 13:26
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]


Thinking about it at the minute.
I completed CSS1 the same week Cisco announced the CCSP, so I only need to
take the SAFE exam, but I'm not sure yet if I'll bother.
My current position doesn't deal as much with security as I'd like
(corporate team to do that), and if I changed positions/company, I suppose
it would depend on what I was doing in the new one.

I am tempted to 'just do it', but I tend not to be very motivated when
there's no reward

KEith

-Original Message-
From: Kim Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 January 2003 10:38
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]


Maybe I should have asked if anyone is studying for the CCSP?  What exams
have you accomplished and what is your next step?  I may be amungst the
group of first participants in this set of exams (v3) and others are waiting
to get information concerning the exams before attempting.  *grins*

Kim / Zukee




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RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]

2003-01-14 Thread Hanna, Keith
Good luck!!
(for the exam and the kid )

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 January 2003 12:13
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]


I currently only have IDS (9E0-572) to go and am booked for next week
Thursday at 10am and then I am CSS1 - apparently still valid until end Feb
2003. I will write the SAFE exam my early Feb 2003. Then I should be CCSP.

After that a short break and then onto CCIE - somehow I think with the kid
on the way in 2 months, I will have plenty of sleepless nights and thus,
time to study!!!

This should be interesting!

Andrew


-Original Message-
From: Hanna, Keith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 January 2003 13:26
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]


Thinking about it at the minute.
I completed CSS1 the same week Cisco announced the CCSP, so I only need to
take the SAFE exam, but I'm not sure yet if I'll bother.
My current position doesn't deal as much with security as I'd like
(corporate team to do that), and if I changed positions/company, I suppose
it would depend on what I was doing in the new one.

I am tempted to 'just do it', but I tend not to be very motivated when
there's no reward

KEith

-Original Message-
From: Kim Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 January 2003 10:38
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]


Maybe I should have asked if anyone is studying for the CCSP?  What exams
have you accomplished and what is your next step?  I may be amungst the
group of first participants in this set of exams (v3) and others are waiting
to get information concerning the exams before attempting.  *grins*

Kim / Zukee




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RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]

2003-01-14 Thread Andrew Larkins
I have no idea what sort of questions -  I am not really a fan of these
total outlines that say what exactly you need to know - step by step. I feel
that you must understand the concepts and be able to work it out - then you
are OK.
I am using the Cisco Press book at the moment and all is great EXCEPT for
chapter 10 - IDS signatures. Who in their right mind knows ALL the IDS
signatures by ID - sure we need to know the basic classes etc (1000 -
1), but not 156 pages of specifics!! Anyway I hope not.

So far there is nothing that is too complicated, just lots to remember. It
is at times like this I wish I had a CSPM box to play on - I have no real
ambition to be a qualified person who has never touched the goods - defeats
the object.  

My 2 cents worth!!

Andrew

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 January 2003 14:30
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]


Hi,

Me to appearing for CSIDS (9E0-572) .. do u know what sort of questions wud
appear. I mean wud there be Match the following, Fill in the blanks or is it
stimulation based one? I don't see much of commands (lots appeared in my
MCNS exam though). What all topics to be prepared on CSPM and IDS module for
sure I feel wud be tested a lot but other than that will there be any?

How much is the pass mark? 

Any info is apprecitated,
Thanks.
Murali

 -Original Message-
From:   Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Tuesday, January 14, 2003 4:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]

I currently only have IDS (9E0-572) to go and am booked for next week
Thursday at 10am and then I am CSS1 - apparently still valid until end Feb
2003. I will write the SAFE exam my early Feb 2003. Then I should be CCSP.

After that a short break and then onto CCIE - somehow I think with the kid
on the way in 2 months, I will have plenty of sleepless nights and thus,
time to study!!!

This should be interesting!

Andrew


-Original Message-
From: Hanna, Keith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 January 2003 13:26
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]


Thinking about it at the minute.
I completed CSS1 the same week Cisco announced the CCSP, so I only need to
take the SAFE exam, but I'm not sure yet if I'll bother.
My current position doesn't deal as much with security as I'd like
(corporate team to do that), and if I changed positions/company, I suppose
it would depend on what I was doing in the new one.

I am tempted to 'just do it', but I tend not to be very motivated when
there's no reward

KEith

-Original Message-
From: Kim Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 January 2003 10:38
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]


Maybe I should have asked if anyone is studying for the CCSP?  What exams
have you accomplished and what is your next step?  I may be amungst the
group of first participants in this set of exams (v3) and others are waiting
to get information concerning the exams before attempting.  *grins*

Kim / Zukee




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RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]

2003-01-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,

Me to appearing for CSIDS (9E0-572) .. do u know what sort of questions wud
appear. I mean wud there be Match the following, Fill in the blanks or is it
stimulation based one? I don't see much of commands (lots appeared in my
MCNS exam though). What all topics to be prepared on CSPM and IDS module for
sure I feel wud be tested a lot but other than that will there be any?

How much is the pass mark? 

Any info is apprecitated,
Thanks.
Murali

 -Original Message-
From:   Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Tuesday, January 14, 2003 4:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]

I currently only have IDS (9E0-572) to go and am booked for next week
Thursday at 10am and then I am CSS1 - apparently still valid until end Feb
2003. I will write the SAFE exam my early Feb 2003. Then I should be CCSP.

After that a short break and then onto CCIE - somehow I think with the kid
on the way in 2 months, I will have plenty of sleepless nights and thus,
time to study!!!

This should be interesting!

Andrew


-Original Message-
From: Hanna, Keith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 January 2003 13:26
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]


Thinking about it at the minute.
I completed CSS1 the same week Cisco announced the CCSP, so I only need to
take the SAFE exam, but I'm not sure yet if I'll bother.
My current position doesn't deal as much with security as I'd like
(corporate team to do that), and if I changed positions/company, I suppose
it would depend on what I was doing in the new one.

I am tempted to 'just do it', but I tend not to be very motivated when
there's no reward

KEith

-Original Message-
From: Kim Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 January 2003 10:38
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]


Maybe I should have asked if anyone is studying for the CCSP?  What exams
have you accomplished and what is your next step?  I may be amungst the
group of first participants in this set of exams (v3) and others are waiting
to get information concerning the exams before attempting.  *grins*

Kim / Zukee




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RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]

2003-01-14 Thread Andrew Larkins
I currently only have IDS (9E0-572) to go and am booked for next week
Thursday at 10am and then I am CSS1 - apparently still valid until end Feb
2003. I will write the SAFE exam my early Feb 2003. Then I should be CCSP.

After that a short break and then onto CCIE - somehow I think with the kid
on the way in 2 months, I will have plenty of sleepless nights and thus,
time to study!!!

This should be interesting!

Andrew


-Original Message-
From: Hanna, Keith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 January 2003 13:26
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]


Thinking about it at the minute.
I completed CSS1 the same week Cisco announced the CCSP, so I only need to
take the SAFE exam, but I'm not sure yet if I'll bother.
My current position doesn't deal as much with security as I'd like
(corporate team to do that), and if I changed positions/company, I suppose
it would depend on what I was doing in the new one.

I am tempted to 'just do it', but I tend not to be very motivated when
there's no reward

KEith

-Original Message-
From: Kim Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 January 2003 10:38
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]


Maybe I should have asked if anyone is studying for the CCSP?  What exams
have you accomplished and what is your next step?  I may be amungst the
group of first participants in this set of exams (v3) and others are waiting
to get information concerning the exams before attempting.  *grins*

Kim / Zukee




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RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]

2003-01-14 Thread Hanna, Keith
Thinking about it at the minute.
I completed CSS1 the same week Cisco announced the CCSP, so I only need to
take the SAFE exam, but I'm not sure yet if I'll bother.
My current position doesn't deal as much with security as I'd like
(corporate team to do that), and if I changed positions/company, I suppose
it would depend on what I was doing in the new one.

I am tempted to 'just do it', but I tend not to be very motivated when
there's no reward

KEith

-Original Message-
From: Kim Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 January 2003 10:38
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]


Maybe I should have asked if anyone is studying for the CCSP?  What exams
have you accomplished and what is your next step?  I may be amungst the
group of first participants in this set of exams (v3) and others are waiting
to get information concerning the exams before attempting.  *grins*

Kim / Zukee




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RE: CSIDS - 9E0-100 [7:60920]

2003-01-14 Thread Kim Graham
Maybe I should have asked if anyone is studying for the CCSP?  What exams
have you accomplished and what is your next step?  I may be amungst the
group of first participants in this set of exams (v3) and others are waiting
to get information concerning the exams before attempting.  *grins*

Kim / Zukee


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