Re: In defence of Brad

2000-07-31 Thread Ronald James

Although I never purchased anything from Brad, I would say if he can offer
equipments to the list at a fair price(which he did), why not?  Concerning
he do business in this list, well, frankly speaking, he did contribute to
this list, and some of the tech people within the list.  Most importantly,
he can help us to get the low-priced equipments, plus he is able to make
money out of that.  Then, we are in 'WIN-WIN' scenario, why not?


"ian gomeche" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:24:52 -0400
 "Chuck Church" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


 'In Brad's defense, he's helped me with a couple problems.  A lot of
CCIE's
 don't bother helping other people after they cross over to CCIE land.
He's
 still on the list helping others, in addition to selling stuff.  If I had
a
 way to help other people learn Cisco and also make money, I'd do it.'

 -

 I would agree with Chuck. Nothing wrong with a little self promotion from
a
 list regular (as opposed to unsolicited spam from an outsider). I think by
 helping others, Brad is deserving of a little 'slack' from some of you.

 It takes a microsecond (or so) to skip over a discreete 'advert' as
opposed
 to much longer to skip over HTML junk and repeated large chunks of
previous
 postings.

 Point made perhaps?

 ian





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Re: Re:In defence of Brad

2000-07-31 Thread bellis

You guys are too sweet!  :)  Thx!

I'll be posting another kit here in a few days.  Im still trying to put
together a nice package for you CCIE goers. Ive got a few extra 2520's if
anyone needs a frame switch.

Marc Russell's Rack #3 should have ATM in about 10-12 days.  I'll post
something here when it happens, and Im sure Marc will let his current
customers know.  He also just added a new lab to his package of labs,
Lab#15.  It's got some VoIP and IPSec on there.

Thanks again to everyone who's already purchased kits from me!  If anyone
else out there in groupstudy land needs some gear, you know where to go:
www.optsys.net

ciao,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
""Kane"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 Yeah well I have,

 The gear I ordered arrived within 5 days of placing the order , all
 beautifully packaged etc. I would also like to point out that I live in
New
 Zealand , and if it wasn't for people like Brad Ellis, gaining any Cisco
 Certs would be an extremely expensive exercise given that there isn't
 exactly a plethora of used Cisco equipment available here.
 Anyone that creates a more level playing field is OK by me.

 Rgrds



 Although I never purchased anything from Brad, I would say if he can offer
 equipments to the list at a fair price(which he did), why not?  Concerning
 he do business in this list, well, frankly speaking, he did contribute to
 this list, and some of the tech people within the list.  Most importantly,
 he can help us to get the low-priced equipments, plus he is able to make
 money out of that.  Then, we are in 'WIN-WIN' scenario, why not?


 "ian gomeche" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 015d01bffa16$cccbdc40$f6bc49c2@oemcomputer">news:015d01bffa16$cccbdc40$f6bc49c2@oemcomputer...
  On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:24:52 -0400
  "Chuck Church" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
 
  'In Brad's defense, he's helped me with a couple problems.  A lot of
 CCIE's
  don't bother helping other people after they cross over to CCIE land.
 He's
  still on the list helping others, in addition to selling stuff.  If I
had
 a
  way to help other people learn Cisco and also make money, I'd do it.'


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Re: In defence of Brad

2000-07-31 Thread Darren Ward

I'd like to add a couple of points that possibly have been overlooked.

The first one is that I don't believe I've seen Brad 'spam' the list for sales.

He only ever seems to reply to people who have posted looking for equipment to
study on.

Secondly, isn't that the point of this list as well?
To be able to get any and all assistance from a peer group studying for the
CCxx's?
This surely includes equipment and I know I wouldn't give my routers away for
free either.

I know I've got enough on my plate studying for my written soon instead of
debating a non-existant list ethics issue.

Darren Ward - PGradCS, CCNP, CCDP, MCP


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Re: In defence of Brad

2000-07-30 Thread Dick Silva

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I second the motion supporting Brad.
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-Original Message-
From: ian gomeche [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: cisco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, July 30, 2000 7:52 AM
Subject: In defence of Brad


On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:24:52 -0400
"Chuck Church" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


'In Brad's defense, he's helped me with a couple problems.  A lot of CCIE's
don't bother helping other people after they cross over to CCIE land.  He's
still on the list helping others, in addition to selling stuff.  If I had a
way to help other people learn Cisco and also make money, I'd do it.'

-

I would agree with Chuck. Nothing wrong with a little self promotion from a
list regular (as opposed to unsolicited spam from an outsider). I think by
helping others, Brad is deserving of a little 'slack' from some of you.

It takes a microsecond (or so) to skip over a discreete 'advert' as opposed
to much longer to skip over HTML junk and repeated large chunks of previous
postings.

Point made perhaps?

ian





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