Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]

2001-12-03 Thread Circusnuts

If you bought from Ebay, you have their slow complaint process to help
(sorta :o)  If you used PayPal, both you and the seller are verified, and
you used a credit card- you're covered.  Rule of thumb though, escrow any
purchase you cannot afford to lose.  I have purchased my entire lab off of
Ebay and have had very snags, but I know it can and does happen.  I know
Brad Ellis, www.Netfix.com, and host of others are willing to sell @ a
somewhat reasonable price and will take that uncertainty of whether it work
or will it arrive away.

Do tell- who was the seller ???  I've got a couple of Ebay surnames that
have goofed over some people I work with.

All the best !!!
Phil

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Subject: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]


> Sorry for off topic
> I recentley bcame the victim of the Auction fraud the guy took my $1000
for
> 2621 router and now not replying for my emails and also I came to know
that
> thi s guy is a fraud and  done similiar thing to at least 4 other people
,Now
> what are the options I have to get my money back from him
>
> Thanks for all your advise
> Kaamvi




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Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]

2001-12-03 Thread EA Louie

It pays to do research before you bid.  If it's the first time you've bought
on eBay, consider it a lesson.  I look at the seller's feedback before I bid
now, and also know of a few reputable folks that I *prefer* to do business
with when they're selling an item. and a few that I *avoid* when buying.
Names are withheld to protect the guilty.  ;-)

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Subject: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]


> Sorry for off topic
> I recentley bcame the victim of the Auction fraud the guy took my $1000
for
> 2621 router and now not replying for my emails and also I came to know
that
> thi s guy is a fraud and  done similiar thing to at least 4 other people
,Now
> what are the options I have to get my money back from him
>
> Thanks for all your advise
> Kaamvi
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RE: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]

2001-12-04 Thread Mike Sweeney

Why not start posting names of sellers that are good to work with? I would
imagine it would get away from the possible slander threats. I will toss out
three names that I deal with on a regular basis and have zero complaints.
All have gone a bit beyond the normal in several cases.

Quadrasource ( bigpeach) in Tustin CA.. they also do walk up sales.. Classic
store front with stuff spilling out of the back ;)

Comstar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I gave him a call to pay for a Cat5000 and
mentioned it was for my lab. The pic showed empty slots.. no covers except
for the filled slots. The cat showed up 2 days later with ALL covers in
place. Nice guy :)

Lassongdl I have bought three times from him and each has been trouble free.
And he is responsive to email even after the sale. I had a problem with a
card that ended up being a dirty connector but he was willing right away to
help or replace the card if needed.

Now- I have NO stake in any of these companies aside from the money I send
them for more cisco parts :) I've just had very good luck with them on MY
purchases.. no claims are made beyond that.

MikeS



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Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]

2001-12-04 Thread Michael J. Doherty

I agree with the response that Daniel Cotts sent, and wanted to add some
more to it.

Most auction sites provide an Escrow service, now, as a means of cutting
down on fraudulent actions.  You may want to consider using those services
if you purchase through an auction site again.

Mike

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Subject: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]


> Sorry for off topic
> I recentley bcame the victim of the Auction fraud the guy took my $1000
for
> 2621 router and now not replying for my emails and also I came to know
that
> thi s guy is a fraud and  done similiar thing to at least 4 other people
,Now
> what are the options I have to get my money back from him
>
> Thanks for all your advise
> Kaamvi
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Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]

2001-12-04 Thread Jason

I would toss out names but I believe that the groupstudy server filter any
messages with the seller name... They still owe me more than US$1000 and has
refuse to answer my calls cliaming that I slander them and that their
lawyers will contact me. I'm still waiting and I'm still going to continue
to "slander" them until their pay me back the money. It has been a good 8
months since they agree to return the money. I don't expect to see it soon
and I'm still waiting for the lawyers call and in fact, left my contact
number , etc a couple of times in case they don't have it...

Feel free to email me offline and I'll be glad to provide the details. I'm
just sooo busy at the moment, else I'll "slander" them further on all the
related usenet groups. Maybe I'll get around to doing it this Christmas as a
present. Oh yeah, they do sell under a lot of different names in eBay. I
got about a dozen of emails cliaming similar type of fraud, complaints to
BBB doesn't do anything except a promise from BBB to file up the complaints
on them for record. In case anybody is wondering , it is GStore or
www.iq.com .


""Mike Sweeney""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Why not start posting names of sellers that are good to work with? I would
> imagine it would get away from the possible slander threats. I will toss
out
> three names that I deal with on a regular basis and have zero complaints.
> All have gone a bit beyond the normal in several cases.
>
> Quadrasource ( bigpeach) in Tustin CA.. they also do walk up sales..
Classic
> store front with stuff spilling out of the back ;)
>
> Comstar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I gave him a call to pay for a Cat5000 and
> mentioned it was for my lab. The pic showed empty slots.. no covers except
> for the filled slots. The cat showed up 2 days later with ALL covers in
> place. Nice guy :)
>
> Lassongdl I have bought three times from him and each has been trouble
free.
> And he is responsive to email even after the sale. I had a problem with a
> card that ended up being a dirty connector but he was willing right away
to
> help or replace the card if needed.
>
> Now- I have NO stake in any of these companies aside from the money I send
> them for more cisco parts :) I've just had very good luck with them on MY
> purchases.. no claims are made beyond that.
>
> MikeS




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Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]

2001-12-05 Thread Brian

You use a credit card, if so charge back time??

Bri

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Subject: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]


> Sorry for off topic
> I recentley bcame the victim of the Auction fraud the guy took my $1000
for
> 2621 router and now not replying for my emails and also I came to know
that
> thi s guy is a fraud and  done similiar thing to at least 4 other people
,Now
> what are the options I have to get my money back from him
>
> Thanks for all your advise
> Kaamvi




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Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]

2001-12-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Insured by Smith & Wesson works for me :)




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Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]

2001-12-05 Thread PacketEXPERTS

What's up and what is the DEAL?
  Jason  wrote: I would toss out names but I believe that the groupstudy
server filter any
messages with the seller name... They still owe me more than US$1000 and has
refuse to answer my calls cliaming that I slander them and that their
lawyers will contact me. I'm still waiting and I'm still going to continue
to "slander" them until their pay me back the money. It has been a good 8
months since they agree to return the money. I don't expect to see it soon
and I'm still waiting for the lawyers call and in fact, left my contact
number , etc a couple of times in case they don't have it...

Feel free to email me offline and I'll be glad to provide the details. I'm
just sooo busy at the moment, else I'll "slander" them further on all the
related usenet groups. Maybe I'll get around to doing it this Christmas as a
present. Oh yeah, they do sell under a lot of different names in eBay. I
got about a dozen of emails cliaming similar type of fraud, complaints to
BBB doesn't do anything except a promise from BBB to file up the complaints
on them for record. In case anybody is wondering , it is GStore or
www.iq.com .


""Mike Sweeney"" wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Why not start posting names of sellers that are good to work with? I would
> imagine it would get away from the possible slander threats. I will toss
out
> three names that I deal with on a regular basis and have zero complaints.
> All have gone a bit beyond the normal in several cases.
>
> Quadrasource ( bigpeach) in Tustin CA.. they also do walk up sales..
Classic
> store front with stuff spilling out of the back ;)
>
> Comstar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I gave him a call to pay for a Cat5000 and
> mentioned it was for my lab. The pic showed empty slots.. no covers except
> for the filled slots. The cat showed up 2 days later with ALL covers in
> place. Nice guy :)
>
> Lassongdl I have bought three times from him and each has been trouble
free.
> And he is responsive to email even after the sale. I had a problem with a
> card that ended up being a dirty connector but he was willing right away
to
> help or replace the card if needed.
>
> Now- I have NO stake in any of these companies aside from the money I send
> them for more cisco parts :) I've just had very good luck with them on MY
> purchases.. no claims are made beyond that.
>
> MikeS
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Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]

2001-12-05 Thread PacketEXPERTS

What's up and what is the DEAL?
  Jason  wrote: I would toss out names but I believe that the groupstudy
server filter any
messages with the seller name... They still owe me more than US$1000 and has
refuse to answer my calls cliaming that I slander them and that their
lawyers will contact me. I'm still waiting and I'm still going to continue
to "slander" them until their pay me back the money. It has been a good 8
months since they agree to return the money. I don't expect to see it soon
and I'm still waiting for the lawyers call and in fact, left my contact
number , etc a couple of times in case they don't have it...

Feel free to email me offline and I'll be glad to provide the details. I'm
just sooo busy at the moment, else I'll "slander" them further on all the
related usenet groups. Maybe I'll get around to doing it this Christmas as a
present. Oh yeah, they do sell under a lot of different names in eBay. I
got about a dozen of emails cliaming similar type of fraud, complaints to
BBB doesn't do anything except a promise from BBB to file up the complaints
on them for record. In case anybody is wondering , it is GStore or
www.iq.com .


""Mike Sweeney"" wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Why not start posting names of sellers that are good to work with? I would
> imagine it would get away from the possible slander threats. I will toss
out
> three names that I deal with on a regular basis and have zero complaints.
> All have gone a bit beyond the normal in several cases.
>
> Quadrasource ( bigpeach) in Tustin CA.. they also do walk up sales..
Classic
> store front with stuff spilling out of the back ;)
>
> Comstar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I gave him a call to pay for a Cat5000 and
> mentioned it was for my lab. The pic showed empty slots.. no covers except
> for the filled slots. The cat showed up 2 days later with ALL covers in
> place. Nice guy :)
>
> Lassongdl I have bought three times from him and each has been trouble
free.
> And he is responsive to email even after the sale. I had a problem with a
> card that ended up being a dirty connector but he was willing right away
to
> help or replace the card if needed.
>
> Now- I have NO stake in any of these companies aside from the money I send
> them for more cisco parts :) I've just had very good luck with them on MY
> purchases.. no claims are made beyond that.
>
> MikeS
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Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]

2001-12-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Subject: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]


> Sorry for off topic
> I recentley bcame the victim of the Auction fraud the guy took my $1000
for
> 2621 router and now not replying for my emails and also I came to know
that
> thi s guy is a fraud and  done similiar thing to at least 4 other people
,Now
> what are the options I have to get my money back from him
>
> Thanks for all your advise
> Kaamvi
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Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]

2001-12-10 Thread Patrick Ramsey

great postvery thought provoking and completely overwhelming with a
plethera of knowledge.

>>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"  12/10/01 07:14AM >>>
hehehehhehehehehehehehehehehehe
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Subject: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]


> Sorry for off topic
> I recentley bcame the victim of the Auction fraud the guy took my $1000
for
> 2621 router and now not replying for my emails and also I came to know
that
> thi s guy is a fraud and  done similiar thing to at least 4 other people
,Now
> what are the options I have to get my money back from him
>
> Thanks for all your advise
> Kaamvi
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Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]

2001-12-10 Thread Cisco Nuts

"Stories" about iq.com were posted a couple of months back..and I were 
one of the people who had a bad experience with them. Luckily, I did not 
purchase anything from them.  Suprisingly, there are still in business and I 
wonder why there is no one in that company to straighten out this mess


>From: "PacketEXPERTS" 
>Reply-To: "PacketEXPERTS" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]
>Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 23:50:31 -0500
>
>What's up and what is the DEAL?
>   Jason  wrote: I would toss out names but I believe that the groupstudy
>server filter any
>messages with the seller name... They still owe me more than US$1000 and 
>has
>refuse to answer my calls cliaming that I slander them and that their
>lawyers will contact me. I'm still waiting and I'm still going to continue
>to "slander" them until their pay me back the money. It has been a good 8
>months since they agree to return the money. I don't expect to see it soon
>and I'm still waiting for the lawyers call and in fact, left my contact
>number , etc a couple of times in case they don't have it...
>
>Feel free to email me offline and I'll be glad to provide the details. I'm
>just sooo busy at the moment, else I'll "slander" them further on all the
>related usenet groups. Maybe I'll get around to doing it this Christmas as 
>a
>present. Oh yeah, they do sell under a lot of different names in eBay. 
>I
>got about a dozen of emails cliaming similar type of fraud, complaints to
>BBB doesn't do anything except a promise from BBB to file up the complaints
>on them for record. In case anybody is wondering , it is GStore or
>www.iq.com .
>
>
>""Mike Sweeney"" wrote in message
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Why not start posting names of sellers that are good to work with? I 
>would
> > imagine it would get away from the possible slander threats. I will toss
>out
> > three names that I deal with on a regular basis and have zero 
>complaints.
> > All have gone a bit beyond the normal in several cases.
> >
> > Quadrasource ( bigpeach) in Tustin CA.. they also do walk up sales..
>Classic
> > store front with stuff spilling out of the back ;)
> >
> > Comstar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I gave him a call to pay for a Cat5000 and
> > mentioned it was for my lab. The pic showed empty slots.. no covers 
>except
> > for the filled slots. The cat showed up 2 days later with ALL covers in
> > place. Nice guy :)
> >
> > Lassongdl I have bought three times from him and each has been trouble
>free.
> > And he is responsive to email even after the sale. I had a problem with 
>a
> > card that ended up being a dirty connector but he was willing right away
>to
> > help or replace the card if needed.
> >
> > Now- I have NO stake in any of these companies aside from the money I 
>send
> > them for more cisco parts :) I've just had very good luck with them on 
>MY
> > purchases.. no claims are made beyond that.
> >
> > MikeS
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Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]

2001-12-10 Thread Circusnuts

Not sure the where this thread is going, but the Better Business Bureau is a
thing of the past.  You can only hang their sticker on your door if you pay
a membership (as a business owner).  Business owners have wizened up over
the past 10 or 15 years.  The BBB has been defused by a lack of
participation.  You must use your credit card company (who surely doesn't
mind taking your side) and state or local agencies that control the business
licenses.

.02
Phil

- Original Message -
From: "PacketEXPERTS" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]


> What's up and what is the DEAL?
>   Jason  wrote: I would toss out names but I believe that the groupstudy
> server filter any
> messages with the seller name... They still owe me more than US$1000 and
has
> refuse to answer my calls cliaming that I slander them and that their
> lawyers will contact me. I'm still waiting and I'm still going to continue
> to "slander" them until their pay me back the money. It has been a good 8
> months since they agree to return the money. I don't expect to see it soon
> and I'm still waiting for the lawyers call and in fact, left my contact
> number , etc a couple of times in case they don't have it...
>
> Feel free to email me offline and I'll be glad to provide the details. I'm
> just sooo busy at the moment, else I'll "slander" them further on all the
> related usenet groups. Maybe I'll get around to doing it this Christmas as
a
> present. Oh yeah, they do sell under a lot of different names in eBay.
I
> got about a dozen of emails cliaming similar type of fraud, complaints to
> BBB doesn't do anything except a promise from BBB to file up the
complaints
> on them for record. In case anybody is wondering , it is GStore or
> www.iq.com .
>
>
> ""Mike Sweeney"" wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Why not start posting names of sellers that are good to work with? I
would
> > imagine it would get away from the possible slander threats. I will toss
> out
> > three names that I deal with on a regular basis and have zero
complaints.
> > All have gone a bit beyond the normal in several cases.
> >
> > Quadrasource ( bigpeach) in Tustin CA.. they also do walk up sales..
> Classic
> > store front with stuff spilling out of the back ;)
> >
> > Comstar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I gave him a call to pay for a Cat5000 and
> > mentioned it was for my lab. The pic showed empty slots.. no covers
except
> > for the filled slots. The cat showed up 2 days later with ALL covers in
> > place. Nice guy :)
> >
> > Lassongdl I have bought three times from him and each has been trouble
> free.
> > And he is responsive to email even after the sale. I had a problem with
a
> > card that ended up being a dirty connector but he was willing right away
> to
> > help or replace the card if needed.
> >
> > Now- I have NO stake in any of these companies aside from the money I
send
> > them for more cisco parts :) I've just had very good luck with them on
MY
> > purchases.. no claims are made beyond that.
> >
> > MikeS
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]

2001-12-10 Thread Circusnuts

Not sure the where this thread is going, but the Better Business Bureau is a
thing of the past.  You can only hang their sticker on your door if you pay
a membership (as a business owner).  Business owners have wizened up over
the past 10 or 15 years.  The BBB has been defused by a lack of
participation.  You must use your credit card company (who surely doesn't
mind taking your side) and state or local agencies that control the business
licenses.

.02
Phil

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From: "PacketEXPERTS" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]


> What's up and what is the DEAL?
>   Jason  wrote: I would toss out names but I believe that the groupstudy
> server filter any
> messages with the seller name... They still owe me more than US$1000 and
has
> refuse to answer my calls cliaming that I slander them and that their
> lawyers will contact me. I'm still waiting and I'm still going to continue
> to "slander" them until their pay me back the money. It has been a good 8
> months since they agree to return the money. I don't expect to see it soon
> and I'm still waiting for the lawyers call and in fact, left my contact
> number , etc a couple of times in case they don't have it...
>
> Feel free to email me offline and I'll be glad to provide the details. I'm
> just sooo busy at the moment, else I'll "slander" them further on all the
> related usenet groups. Maybe I'll get around to doing it this Christmas as
a
> present. Oh yeah, they do sell under a lot of different names in eBay.
I
> got about a dozen of emails cliaming similar type of fraud, complaints to
> BBB doesn't do anything except a promise from BBB to file up the
complaints
> on them for record. In case anybody is wondering , it is GStore or
> www.iq.com .
>
>
> ""Mike Sweeney"" wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Why not start posting names of sellers that are good to work with? I
would
> > imagine it would get away from the possible slander threats. I will toss
> out
> > three names that I deal with on a regular basis and have zero
complaints.
> > All have gone a bit beyond the normal in several cases.
> >
> > Quadrasource ( bigpeach) in Tustin CA.. they also do walk up sales..
> Classic
> > store front with stuff spilling out of the back ;)
> >
> > Comstar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I gave him a call to pay for a Cat5000 and
> > mentioned it was for my lab. The pic showed empty slots.. no covers
except
> > for the filled slots. The cat showed up 2 days later with ALL covers in
> > place. Nice guy :)
> >
> > Lassongdl I have bought three times from him and each has been trouble
> free.
> > And he is responsive to email even after the sale. I had a problem with
a
> > card that ended up being a dirty connector but he was willing right away
> to
> > help or replace the card if needed.
> >
> > Now- I have NO stake in any of these companies aside from the money I
send
> > them for more cisco parts :) I've just had very good luck with them on
MY
> > purchases.. no claims are made beyond that.
> >
> > MikeS
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