Re: Radware's linkproof and Fatpipe [7:8085]
If you have two ISPs then you'll have two sets of public addresses assigned to you already. Their solution is to internally map one address from each pool to each inside resource making them reachable through each ISP. Then you do DNS round robin to get "load balancing". I just don't like that solution because it's not as transparent to the end user, but it does have some benefits: No ASN needed, BGP is unnecessary, and it conserves addresses since you won't need an entire /24. Unless, of course, you really do need a /24, but you probably don't from the sounds of it. Regards, John >>> "Kenneth" 6/12/01 8:12:21 PM >>> Cool. I just thought it was too good to be true. I read, through a newsgroup search, that in order to do that, it has to act as the ns of the domain and that I need a separate set of public ip addresses for my network. Basically, it kinda works like Adapter teaming responding to ARP, sending MACaddresses,... except on the network layer, right? Either way, I think going with a BGP will be easier and I'm saving the internet another set of Class C addresses. Thanks, John ""John Neiberger"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > In that situation--where you need to be advertised from both > providers--these devices won't cut the mustard, at least as far as I can > tell. We have had reps from both companies here to explain to us the > benefits of their products and they still really don't have a good way > to do what you're trying to do. > > In our company we also host our own website and are multihomed. In > this scenario we use BGP. Entirely separate from that network we have > an ISP for outgoing internet access for our employees. We will be > adding a second T-1 and then installing the Radware Linkproof hardware. > In this case, we have no internal addresses that *have* to be advertised > from both ISPs so this will work quite well for us. > > HTH, > John > > >>> "Kenneth" 6/11/01 6:16:56 PM >>> > Has anyone deployed this? I'm going through their site and it doesn't > explain how it works without using BGP. We have a data center hosting > around > 20 web-based application and we have an entire class C address space. > I > don't see how the "backup" ISP will be able to advertise our network if > the > primary ISP connection fails without using BGP as these products claim > to > do any ideas? > > Thanks, guys! > > Kenneth Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=8339&t=8085 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Radware's linkproof and Fatpipe [7:8085]
Cool. I just thought it was too good to be true. I read, through a newsgroup search, that in order to do that, it has to act as the ns of the domain and that I need a separate set of public ip addresses for my network. Basically, it kinda works like Adapter teaming responding to ARP, sending MACaddresses,... except on the network layer, right? Either way, I think going with a BGP will be easier and I'm saving the internet another set of Class C addresses. Thanks, John ""John Neiberger"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > In that situation--where you need to be advertised from both > providers--these devices won't cut the mustard, at least as far as I can > tell. We have had reps from both companies here to explain to us the > benefits of their products and they still really don't have a good way > to do what you're trying to do. > > In our company we also host our own website and are multihomed. In > this scenario we use BGP. Entirely separate from that network we have > an ISP for outgoing internet access for our employees. We will be > adding a second T-1 and then installing the Radware Linkproof hardware. > In this case, we have no internal addresses that *have* to be advertised > from both ISPs so this will work quite well for us. > > HTH, > John > > >>> "Kenneth" 6/11/01 6:16:56 PM >>> > Has anyone deployed this? I'm going through their site and it doesn't > explain how it works without using BGP. We have a data center hosting > around > 20 web-based application and we have an entire class C address space. > I > don't see how the "backup" ISP will be able to advertise our network if > the > primary ISP connection fails without using BGP as these products claim > to > do any ideas? > > Thanks, guys! > > Kenneth Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=8287&t=8085 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Radware's linkproof and Fatpipe [7:8085]
sure it does but SMARTNAT is a proprietary technology that they named without a thorough explanation of how it works. Reading their white paper, it didn't explain the fact that you need to have 2 sets of IP Addresses from the 2 ISPs and that the device will have to act as your NS. ""Jackey Xie"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > it use SmartNAT > > -- > ""Kenneth"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > never mind guys, i read the radware whitepaper ang answered my own > question. > > Thnx > > > > ""Kenneth"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Has anyone deployed this? I'm going through their site and it doesn't > > > explain how it works without using BGP. We have a data center hosting > > around > > > 20 web-based application and we have an entire class C address space. I > > > don't see how the "backup" ISP will be able to advertise our network if > > the > > > primary ISP connection fails without using BGP as these products claim > to > > > do any ideas? > > > > > > Thanks, guys! > > > > > > Kenneth Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=8286&t=8085 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Radware's linkproof and Fatpipe [7:8085]
In that situation--where you need to be advertised from both providers--these devices won't cut the mustard, at least as far as I can tell. We have had reps from both companies here to explain to us the benefits of their products and they still really don't have a good way to do what you're trying to do. In our company we also host our own website and are multihomed. In this scenario we use BGP. Entirely separate from that network we have an ISP for outgoing internet access for our employees. We will be adding a second T-1 and then installing the Radware Linkproof hardware. In this case, we have no internal addresses that *have* to be advertised from both ISPs so this will work quite well for us. HTH, John >>> "Kenneth" 6/11/01 6:16:56 PM >>> Has anyone deployed this? I'm going through their site and it doesn't explain how it works without using BGP. We have a data center hosting around 20 web-based application and we have an entire class C address space. I don't see how the "backup" ISP will be able to advertise our network if the primary ISP connection fails without using BGP as these products claim to do any ideas? Thanks, guys! Kenneth Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=8160&t=8085 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Radware's linkproof and Fatpipe [7:8085]
it use SmartNAT -- ""Kenneth"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > never mind guys, i read the radware whitepaper ang answered my own question. > Thnx > > ""Kenneth"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Has anyone deployed this? I'm going through their site and it doesn't > > explain how it works without using BGP. We have a data center hosting > around > > 20 web-based application and we have an entire class C address space. I > > don't see how the "backup" ISP will be able to advertise our network if > the > > primary ISP connection fails without using BGP as these products claim to > > do any ideas? > > > > Thanks, guys! > > > > Kenneth Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=8123&t=8085 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Radware's linkproof and Fatpipe [7:8085]
never mind guys, i read the radware whitepaper ang answered my own question. Thnx ""Kenneth"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Has anyone deployed this? I'm going through their site and it doesn't > explain how it works without using BGP. We have a data center hosting around > 20 web-based application and we have an entire class C address space. I > don't see how the "backup" ISP will be able to advertise our network if the > primary ISP connection fails without using BGP as these products claim to > do any ideas? > > Thanks, guys! > > Kenneth Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=8094&t=8085 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
