Re: VPN through NAT

2000-05-30 Thread Scott Benton

First of all, are you trying to use an IPSEC or a PPTP
tunnel? Are you terminating the tunnel on the PC or on
the router that is doing translation?
Scott
--- Greg Smythe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello --
> 
> Has anyone done this before? I'm trying to get a VPN
> connection to work over
> NAT. I see the translation happening, but my PC gets
> as far as "verifying
> username/pass" and then it errors out saying the
> server didn't respond
> (timeout).
> show ip nat tra:
> 
> tcp 3.3.3.3:1056  102.153.102.251:1056 1.1.1.1:1723
> 1.1.1.1:1723
> 
> 3.3.3.3 is the IP of my router's internet interface.
> 102.153.102.251 is my
> inside IP of my pc. 1.1.1.1 is my VPN server on the
> internet.
> 
> If I give my PC an internet IP then it works, so it
> has something to do with
> the NAT. No filters are in effect on the interfaces
> on my router.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> Greg
> 
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Re: VPN through NAT

2000-05-30 Thread Rodgers Moore

Greg,

Sure you can get an IPSEC tunnel to work through a router doing NAT.  The
problem that normally arises is with PAT.  ISAKMP uses UDP port 500 for the
source and destination.  PAT screws this up, by translating the source port
from 500 to something else and this is invalid.  You also have to configure
passing IPSEC, IP protocols 50 and 51, if you are using any access-lists to
restrict traffic or to define the interesting traffic to the NAT process.

I've done this many times in the past.  Through routers, PIX, Raptor
Firewalls, and Check Point Firewalls.  It's becoming more common that more
organizations are implementing firewalls and require a particular client and
do not allow server to server tunnels for security reasons.

Rodgers Moore

""Greg Smythe"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
001701bfca7b$d76398c0$020b010a@ei">news:001701bfca7b$d76398c0$020b010a@ei...
> So I can't make a VPN connection to my NT box over NAT.. Well that sucks.
> Thanks for the info!
>
> Greg
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ric Messier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:01 PM
> Subject: Re: VPN through NAT
>
>
> VPNs don't typically work through NAT. The reason is that the packet is
> altered by the router on the way through the network. As a result, the
> signature is altered and the packet is discarded as being corrupt. The
> originating IP is used as part of the authentication mechanism for the
> packets coming through. It's a security feature.
>
> Ric
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Balharek, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Greg Smythe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 4:31 PM
> Subject: RE: VPN through NAT
>
>
> > Try a crazy search on CCO.
> >
> > Type in "nat vpn".
> > Select to search in support.
> >
> > Ohhh.
> >
> > Rtfm
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Greg Smythe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 12:55 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: VPN through NAT
> >
> > Hello --
> >
> > Has anyone done this before? I'm trying to get a VPN
> > connection to work over
> > NAT. I see the translation happening, but my PC gets as far
> > as "verifying
> > username/pass" and then it errors out saying the server
> > didn't respond
> > (timeout).
> > show ip nat tra:
> >
> > tcp 3.3.3.3:1056  102.153.102.251:1056 1.1.1.1:1723
> > 1.1.1.1:1723
> >
> > 3.3.3.3 is the IP of my router's internet interface.
> > 102.153.102.251 is my
> > inside IP of my pc. 1.1.1.1 is my VPN server on the
> > internet.
> >
> > If I give my PC an internet IP then it works, so it has
> > something to do with
> > the NAT. No filters are in effect on the interfaces on my
> > router.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> > Greg
> >
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RE: VPN through NAT

2000-05-30 Thread Chuck Larrieu

I believe Cisco's preferred method for this is through specific products
designed for VPN router to router communication

700, 800, 1600 and 1700 series.

In theory, an IPSec compliant box on your side should be able to talk to an
IPSec compliant box on the Corporate side. These things are not necessarily
so at this time.

The idea being that if you had a Cisco router with the firewall and IPSec
feature set, you could configure the router such that your VPN traffic would
go to the designated tunnel device at corporate, and the rest of your
internet traffic would go as it pleased. I did a lab on this a ways back and
published the generic configs to show how the principal works.

Otherwise, the way I have seen most designs, someone with a DSL connection
installs client VPN software on their machine, using that means to create
the secure tunnels. This is actually one of the security concerns, in that
the presence of this shim software does nothing to ensure that the machine
itself is secure.

In your configuration, the preferred manner would be to run the VPN tunnel
from edge to edge, and leave the PC client untouched. There are any number
of known issues with PC shims anyway.

I look forward to hearing what TAC says. Secure VPN client to a Pix?

Chuck

-Original Message-
From:   Greg Smythe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, May 30, 2000 3:12 PM
To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        Re: VPN through NAT

I'm trying to VPN from my Home, through a NAT router, over the internet, and
into a VPN server on the corporate network:

This is what I have:

PC ---| 
|
  nat rtr
| 
 internet
|
 VPN server
|
| 

If that's not readable: PC  --NAT
Router--Internet--VPN Server (NT)--Corp LAN

On my NAT router I see it trying to connect but something not passing over
the router correctly.

As a last resort I have just opened a case with the TAC (I decided to try on
here first to see if I could get a fast response ). I'll let the list
know what they say. My case was just dispatched to a tech.

Greg

- Original Message -
From: "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Greg Smythe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ric Messier"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: VPN through NAT


To bring this back into the realm of education and enlightenment, let's look
at the design issue.

You are going VPN, ie secure tunnel from where to where?

Homeinternet-firewall-inside_network is the "standard"
configuration, with you the user wanting to work from home for some perverse
reason. ;->

But in the case you state, it would appear that you the user are in the
office, and want to VPN to some other place?

Corp_net-internet-some_other_place

Now as a matter of security policy, does corp_net want to allow people on
the inside to connect snug and secure and private to some unknown place on
the outside... say a competitor's network, where you will then transfer
company secrets?

As a matter of policy, companies might not want traffic whose contents
cannot be inspected to be passing through their firewalls.

Yes there are all in one products, such as the Checkpoint VPN firewall,
which operate in such a manner.

Insidecheckpoint-(VPN/NATtunnel/non-tunnel)-internet-someplace_e
lse

But as a matter of design, NAT not withstanding, it is in my opinion at
least, not a good idea to permit unrestricted VPNs from inside to outside.
If there are extranets to be considered, then one should design a routing
situation in which those who need to connect to particular VPN devices would
be routed to particular pieces of equipment, from which the extranet VPN
would be established.

Inside-firewall---internet
 |-VPN/extranetbusiness_partner

Hey, guys, have I muddied this up enough?  :->

Chuck


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Greg
Smythe
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:13 PM
To: Ric Messier; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: VPN through NAT

So I can't make a VPN connection to my NT box over NAT.. Well that sucks.
Thanks for the info!

Greg
- Original Message -
From: "Ric Messier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: VPN through NAT


VPNs don't typically work through NAT. The reason is that the packet is
altered by the router on the way through the network. As a result, the
signature is altered and the packet is discarded as being corrupt. The
originating IP is used as part of the authentication mechanism for the
packets coming through. It's a security feature.

Ric

- Original Message -
From: "Balharek, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Greg Smythe" <[

RE: VPN through NAT

2000-05-30 Thread Kevin S. Mahler

This is not always the case.  Many Cable Modem providers are running
NAT for some reason.  This can cause grief when trying to work from home
with the office.

I posted a response earlier but don't see it.  I must have used the wrong email
address.

The only VPN client I know of that will work through NAT is the Altiga (Cisco)
VPN Client.  It does a raindance around NAT using UDP packets.

Kevin


At 02:56 PM 5/30/00 -0700, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
>To bring this back into the realm of education and enlightenment, let's look
>at the design issue.
>
>You are going VPN, ie secure tunnel from where to where?
>
>Homeinternet-firewall-inside_network is the "standard"
>configuration, with you the user wanting to work from home for some perverse
>reason. ;->
>
>But in the case you state, it would appear that you the user are in the
>office, and want to VPN to some other place?
>
>Corp_net-internet-some_other_place
>
>Now as a matter of security policy, does corp_net want to allow people on
>the inside to connect snug and secure and private to some unknown place on
>the outside... say a competitor's network, where you will then transfer
>company secrets?
>
>As a matter of policy, companies might not want traffic whose contents
>cannot be inspected to be passing through their firewalls.
>
>Yes there are all in one products, such as the Checkpoint VPN firewall,
>which operate in such a manner.
>
>Insidecheckpoint-(VPN/NATtunnel/non-tunnel)-internet-someplace_e
>lse
>
>But as a matter of design, NAT not withstanding, it is in my opinion at
>least, not a good idea to permit unrestricted VPNs from inside to outside.
>If there are extranets to be considered, then one should design a routing
>situation in which those who need to connect to particular VPN devices would
>be routed to particular pieces of equipment, from which the extranet VPN
>would be established.
>
>Inside-firewall---internet
>  |-VPN/extranetbusiness_partner
>
>Hey, guys, have I muddied this up enough?  :->
>
>Chuck
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Greg
>Smythe
>Sent:   Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:13 PM
>To: Ric Messier; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject:Re: VPN through NAT
>
>So I can't make a VPN connection to my NT box over NAT.. Well that sucks.
>Thanks for the info!
>
>Greg
>- Original Message -
>From: "Ric Messier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:01 PM
>Subject: Re: VPN through NAT
>
>
>VPNs don't typically work through NAT. The reason is that the packet is
>altered by the router on the way through the network. As a result, the
>signature is altered and the packet is discarded as being corrupt. The
>originating IP is used as part of the authentication mechanism for the
>packets coming through. It's a security feature.
>
>Ric
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Balharek, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Greg Smythe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 4:31 PM
>Subject: RE: VPN through NAT
>
>
> > Try a crazy search on CCO.
> >
> > Type in "nat vpn".
> > Select to search in support.
> >
> > Ohhh.
> >
> > Rtfm
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Greg Smythe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 12:55 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: VPN through NAT
> >
> > Hello --
> >
> > Has anyone done this before? I'm trying to get a VPN
> > connection to work over
> > NAT. I see the translation happening, but my PC gets as far
> > as "verifying
> > username/pass" and then it errors out saying the server
> > didn't respond
> > (timeout).
> > show ip nat tra:
> >
> > tcp 3.3.3.3:1056  102.153.102.251:1056 1.1.1.1:1723
> > 1.1.1.1:1723
> >
> > 3.3.3.3 is the IP of my router's internet interface.
> > 102.153.102.251 is my
> > inside IP of my pc. 1.1.1.1 is my VPN server on the
> > internet.
> >
> > If I give my PC an internet IP then it works, so it has
> > something to do with
> > the NAT. No filters are in effect on the interfaces on my
> > router.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> > Greg
> >
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Re: VPN through NAT

2000-05-30 Thread Greg Smythe

I'm trying to VPN from my Home, through a NAT router, over the internet, and
into a VPN server on the corporate network:

This is what I have:

PC ---| 
|
  nat rtr
| 
 internet
|
 VPN server
|
| 

If that's not readable: PC  --NAT
Router--Internet--VPN Server (NT)--Corp LAN

On my NAT router I see it trying to connect but something not passing over
the router correctly.

As a last resort I have just opened a case with the TAC (I decided to try on
here first to see if I could get a fast response ). I'll let the list
know what they say. My case was just dispatched to a tech.

Greg

- Original Message -
From: "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Greg Smythe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ric Messier"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: VPN through NAT


To bring this back into the realm of education and enlightenment, let's look
at the design issue.

You are going VPN, ie secure tunnel from where to where?

Homeinternet-firewall-inside_network is the "standard"
configuration, with you the user wanting to work from home for some perverse
reason. ;->

But in the case you state, it would appear that you the user are in the
office, and want to VPN to some other place?

Corp_net-internet-some_other_place

Now as a matter of security policy, does corp_net want to allow people on
the inside to connect snug and secure and private to some unknown place on
the outside... say a competitor's network, where you will then transfer
company secrets?

As a matter of policy, companies might not want traffic whose contents
cannot be inspected to be passing through their firewalls.

Yes there are all in one products, such as the Checkpoint VPN firewall,
which operate in such a manner.

Insidecheckpoint-(VPN/NATtunnel/non-tunnel)-internet-someplace_e
lse

But as a matter of design, NAT not withstanding, it is in my opinion at
least, not a good idea to permit unrestricted VPNs from inside to outside.
If there are extranets to be considered, then one should design a routing
situation in which those who need to connect to particular VPN devices would
be routed to particular pieces of equipment, from which the extranet VPN
would be established.

Inside-firewall---internet
 |-VPN/extranetbusiness_partner

Hey, guys, have I muddied this up enough?  :->

Chuck


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Greg
Smythe
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:13 PM
To: Ric Messier; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: VPN through NAT

So I can't make a VPN connection to my NT box over NAT.. Well that sucks.
Thanks for the info!

Greg
- Original Message -
From: "Ric Messier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: VPN through NAT


VPNs don't typically work through NAT. The reason is that the packet is
altered by the router on the way through the network. As a result, the
signature is altered and the packet is discarded as being corrupt. The
originating IP is used as part of the authentication mechanism for the
packets coming through. It's a security feature.

Ric

- Original Message -
From: "Balharek, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Greg Smythe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: VPN through NAT


> Try a crazy search on CCO.
>
> Type in "nat vpn".
> Select to search in support.
>
> Ohhh.
>
> Rtfm
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Greg Smythe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 12:55 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: VPN through NAT
>
> Hello --
>
> Has anyone done this before? I'm trying to get a VPN
> connection to work over
> NAT. I see the translation happening, but my PC gets as far
> as "verifying
> username/pass" and then it errors out saying the server
> didn't respond
> (timeout).
> show ip nat tra:
>
> tcp 3.3.3.3:1056  102.153.102.251:1056 1.1.1.1:1723
> 1.1.1.1:1723
>
> 3.3.3.3 is the IP of my router's internet interface.
> 102.153.102.251 is my
> inside IP of my pc. 1.1.1.1 is my VPN server on the
> internet.
>
> If I give my PC an internet IP then it works, so it has
> something to do with
> the NAT. No filters are in effect on the interfaces on my
> router.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Greg
>
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RE: VPN through NAT

2000-05-30 Thread Chuck Larrieu

To bring this back into the realm of education and enlightenment, let's look
at the design issue.

You are going VPN, ie secure tunnel from where to where?

Homeinternet-firewall-inside_network is the "standard"
configuration, with you the user wanting to work from home for some perverse
reason. ;->

But in the case you state, it would appear that you the user are in the
office, and want to VPN to some other place?

Corp_net-internet-some_other_place

Now as a matter of security policy, does corp_net want to allow people on
the inside to connect snug and secure and private to some unknown place on
the outside... say a competitor's network, where you will then transfer
company secrets?

As a matter of policy, companies might not want traffic whose contents
cannot be inspected to be passing through their firewalls.

Yes there are all in one products, such as the Checkpoint VPN firewall,
which operate in such a manner.

Insidecheckpoint-(VPN/NATtunnel/non-tunnel)-internet-someplace_e
lse

But as a matter of design, NAT not withstanding, it is in my opinion at
least, not a good idea to permit unrestricted VPNs from inside to outside.
If there are extranets to be considered, then one should design a routing
situation in which those who need to connect to particular VPN devices would
be routed to particular pieces of equipment, from which the extranet VPN
would be established.

Inside-firewall---internet
 |-VPN/extranetbusiness_partner

Hey, guys, have I muddied this up enough?  :->

Chuck


-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Greg
Smythe
Sent:   Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:13 PM
To: Ric Messier; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:    Re: VPN through NAT

So I can't make a VPN connection to my NT box over NAT.. Well that sucks.
Thanks for the info!

Greg
- Original Message -
From: "Ric Messier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: VPN through NAT


VPNs don't typically work through NAT. The reason is that the packet is
altered by the router on the way through the network. As a result, the
signature is altered and the packet is discarded as being corrupt. The
originating IP is used as part of the authentication mechanism for the
packets coming through. It's a security feature.

Ric

- Original Message -
From: "Balharek, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Greg Smythe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: VPN through NAT


> Try a crazy search on CCO.
>
> Type in "nat vpn".
> Select to search in support.
>
> Ohhh.
>
> Rtfm
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Greg Smythe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 12:55 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: VPN through NAT
>
> Hello --
>
> Has anyone done this before? I'm trying to get a VPN
> connection to work over
> NAT. I see the translation happening, but my PC gets as far
> as "verifying
> username/pass" and then it errors out saying the server
> didn't respond
> (timeout).
> show ip nat tra:
>
> tcp 3.3.3.3:1056  102.153.102.251:1056 1.1.1.1:1723
> 1.1.1.1:1723
>
> 3.3.3.3 is the IP of my router's internet interface.
> 102.153.102.251 is my
> inside IP of my pc. 1.1.1.1 is my VPN server on the
> internet.
>
> If I give my PC an internet IP then it works, so it has
> something to do with
> the NAT. No filters are in effect on the interfaces on my
> router.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Greg
>
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RE: VPN through NAT

2000-05-30 Thread Balharek, Peter

Try a crazy search on CCO.

Type in "nat vpn".
Select to search in support.

Ohhh.

Rtfm



-Original Message-
From:   Greg Smythe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, May 30, 2000 12:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:VPN through NAT

Hello --

Has anyone done this before? I'm trying to get a VPN
connection to work over
NAT. I see the translation happening, but my PC gets as far
as "verifying
username/pass" and then it errors out saying the server
didn't respond
(timeout).
show ip nat tra:

tcp 3.3.3.3:1056  102.153.102.251:1056 1.1.1.1:1723
1.1.1.1:1723

3.3.3.3 is the IP of my router's internet interface.
102.153.102.251 is my
inside IP of my pc. 1.1.1.1 is my VPN server on the
internet.

If I give my PC an internet IP then it works, so it has
something to do with
the NAT. No filters are in effect on the interfaces on my
router.

Thanks!


Greg

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Re: VPN through NAT

2000-05-30 Thread Greg Smythe

So I can't make a VPN connection to my NT box over NAT.. Well that sucks.
Thanks for the info!

Greg
- Original Message -
From: "Ric Messier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: VPN through NAT


VPNs don't typically work through NAT. The reason is that the packet is
altered by the router on the way through the network. As a result, the
signature is altered and the packet is discarded as being corrupt. The
originating IP is used as part of the authentication mechanism for the
packets coming through. It's a security feature.

Ric

- Original Message -
From: "Balharek, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Greg Smythe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: VPN through NAT


> Try a crazy search on CCO.
>
> Type in "nat vpn".
> Select to search in support.
>
> Ohhh.
>
> Rtfm
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Greg Smythe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 12:55 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: VPN through NAT
>
> Hello --
>
> Has anyone done this before? I'm trying to get a VPN
> connection to work over
> NAT. I see the translation happening, but my PC gets as far
> as "verifying
> username/pass" and then it errors out saying the server
> didn't respond
> (timeout).
> show ip nat tra:
>
> tcp 3.3.3.3:1056  102.153.102.251:1056 1.1.1.1:1723
> 1.1.1.1:1723
>
> 3.3.3.3 is the IP of my router's internet interface.
> 102.153.102.251 is my
> inside IP of my pc. 1.1.1.1 is my VPN server on the
> internet.
>
> If I give my PC an internet IP then it works, so it has
> something to do with
> the NAT. No filters are in effect on the interfaces on my
> router.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Greg
>
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Re: VPN through NAT

2000-05-30 Thread Greg Smythe

Tried that already. Only info I found on there is configuring a PIX firewall
VPN tunnel. Searching the CCO is a major pain; you get soo many unrelated
hits..


Greg

- Original Message -
From: "Balharek, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Greg Smythe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 1:31 PM
Subject: RE: VPN through NAT


Try a crazy search on CCO.

Type in "nat vpn".
Select to search in support.

Ohhh.

Rtfm



-Original Message-
From: Greg Smythe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 12:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: VPN through NAT

Hello --

Has anyone done this before? I'm trying to get a VPN
connection to work over
NAT. I see the translation happening, but my PC gets as far
as "verifying
username/pass" and then it errors out saying the server
didn't respond
(timeout).
show ip nat tra:

tcp 3.3.3.3:1056  102.153.102.251:1056 1.1.1.1:1723
1.1.1.1:1723

3.3.3.3 is the IP of my router's internet interface.
102.153.102.251 is my
inside IP of my pc. 1.1.1.1 is my VPN server on the
internet.

If I give my PC an internet IP then it works, so it has
something to do with
the NAT. No filters are in effect on the interfaces on my
router.

Thanks!


Greg

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Re: VPN through NAT

2000-05-30 Thread Rodgers Moore

NAT or PAT.  You can't do a VPN tunnel with PAT.

Rodgers Moore, CCDP, CCNP-Security


""Greg Smythe"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
000501bfca70$edb82740$020b010a@ei">news:000501bfca70$edb82740$020b010a@ei...
> Hello --
>
> Has anyone done this before? I'm trying to get a VPN connection to work
over
> NAT. I see the translation happening, but my PC gets as far as "verifying
> username/pass" and then it errors out saying the server didn't respond
> (timeout).
> show ip nat tra:
>
> tcp 3.3.3.3:1056  102.153.102.251:1056 1.1.1.1:1723 1.1.1.1:1723
>
> 3.3.3.3 is the IP of my router's internet interface. 102.153.102.251 is my
> inside IP of my pc. 1.1.1.1 is my VPN server on the internet.
>
> If I give my PC an internet IP then it works, so it has something to do
with
> the NAT. No filters are in effect on the interfaces on my router.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Greg
>
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