Re: Would this break the NDA [7:55799]

2002-10-18 Thread Steven A. Ridder
NO.


Thomas Crowe  wrote in message
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 I remember a while back I had the question of which terminal emulator is
 being used for the CCIE lab.  Well after taking the Lab (and yes I was
 honored with an invitation to come back and try again one day soon :-o ) I
 now definitively know the answer to this question.  As I recall others
also
 had this question, in trying to avoid a flaming war, what is the group's
 consensus on this.  Do you feel that it would violate the NDA to disclose
 this information, it doesn't address any of the technical content of the
lab
 (and NO I will not disclose any of those, so please do not ask) so I don't
 feel that it would.  This is simply an effort to help out some people with
 their studying efforts so that they are not wasting time getting
accustomed
 to a new and totally different terminal emulator.

 __

 Thomas Crowe
 Senior Systems Engineer / Senior Architect
 EMC Proven Master Architect
 EMC Proven Master Operator
 CTS Professional Services - Atlanta
 __

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RE: Would this break the NDA [7:55799]

2002-10-18 Thread Daren Presbitero
It's HYPERTERMINAL!!!

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No, I don't believe it breaks the NDA. It's not any different than knowing
what equipment is in the lab, which is spelled out for everyone right on
Cisco's website. I've heard it was Reflections or Hyperterminal. I don't
know because I haven't taken the lab yet, but I would like to know just out
of curiosity. If you feel comfortable telling us, please do!

Shawn K.

 -Original Message-
 From: quot;B.J. Wilsonquot; [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 11:41 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: Would this break the NDA [7:55799]

 I haven't taken the lab yet, but I look at it this way: would answering
 someone else's question about the lab environment be worth the price of
 never
 being allowed to take the lab again? :-)

 BJ



 On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:09:43 GMT Thomas Crowe  wrote:

  I remember a while back I had the question of
  which terminal emulator is
  being used for the CCIE lab.  Well after taking
  the Lab (and yes I was
  honored with an invitation to come back and try
  again one day soon :-o ) I
  now definitively know the answer to this
  question.  As I recall others also
  had this question, in trying to avoid a flaming
  war, what is the group's
  consensus on this.  Do you feel that it would
  violate the NDA to disclose
  this information, it doesn't address any of the
  technical content of the lab
  (and NO I will not disclose any of those, so
  please do not ask) so I don't
  feel that it would.  This is simply an effort
  to help out some people with
  their studying efforts so that they are not
  wasting time getting accustomed
  to a new and totally different terminal
  emulator.
 
  __
 
  Thomas Crowe
  Senior Systems Engineer / Senior Architect
  EMC Proven Master Architect
  EMC Proven Master Operator
  CTS Professional Services - Atlanta
  __
 
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  text/x-vcard which had a name
  of Thomas Crowe.vcf]
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Re: Would this break the NDA [7:55799]

2002-10-17 Thread quot;B.J. Wilsonquot;
I haven't taken the lab yet, but I look at it this way: would answering
someone else's question about the lab environment be worth the price of never
being allowed to take the lab again? :-)

BJ



On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:09:43 GMT Thomas Crowe  wrote:

 I remember a while back I had the question of
 which terminal emulator is
 being used for the CCIE lab.  Well after taking
 the Lab (and yes I was
 honored with an invitation to come back and try
 again one day soon :-o ) I
 now definitively know the answer to this
 question.  As I recall others also
 had this question, in trying to avoid a flaming
 war, what is the group's
 consensus on this.  Do you feel that it would
 violate the NDA to disclose
 this information, it doesn't address any of the
 technical content of the lab
 (and NO I will not disclose any of those, so
 please do not ask) so I don't
 feel that it would.  This is simply an effort
 to help out some people with
 their studying efforts so that they are not
 wasting time getting accustomed
 to a new and totally different terminal
 emulator.
 
 __
 
 Thomas Crowe
 Senior Systems Engineer / Senior Architect
 EMC Proven Master Architect
 EMC Proven Master Operator
 CTS Professional Services - Atlanta
 __
 
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 text/x-vcard which had a name
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Re: Would this break the NDA [7:55799]

2002-10-17 Thread Paul Jin
If you guys have any specific questions, you can write the CCIE team
at Cisco and they will provide you the answers.  This way, you know for sure
it is not breaking the NDA.

- Paul


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RE: Would this break the NDA [7:55799]

2002-10-17 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G
No, I don't believe it breaks the NDA. It's not any different than knowing
what equipment is in the lab, which is spelled out for everyone right on
Cisco's website. I've heard it was Reflections or Hyperterminal. I don't
know because I haven't taken the lab yet, but I would like to know just out
of curiosity. If you feel comfortable telling us, please do!

Shawn K.

 -Original Message-
 From: quot;B.J. Wilsonquot; [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 11:41 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: Would this break the NDA [7:55799]
 
 I haven't taken the lab yet, but I look at it this way: would answering
 someone else's question about the lab environment be worth the price of
 never
 being allowed to take the lab again? :-)
 
 BJ
 
 
 
 On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:09:43 GMT Thomas Crowe  wrote:
 
  I remember a while back I had the question of
  which terminal emulator is
  being used for the CCIE lab.  Well after taking
  the Lab (and yes I was
  honored with an invitation to come back and try
  again one day soon :-o ) I
  now definitively know the answer to this
  question.  As I recall others also
  had this question, in trying to avoid a flaming
  war, what is the group's
  consensus on this.  Do you feel that it would
  violate the NDA to disclose
  this information, it doesn't address any of the
  technical content of the lab
  (and NO I will not disclose any of those, so
  please do not ask) so I don't
  feel that it would.  This is simply an effort
  to help out some people with
  their studying efforts so that they are not
  wasting time getting accustomed
  to a new and totally different terminal
  emulator.
  
  __
  
  Thomas Crowe
  Senior Systems Engineer / Senior Architect
  EMC Proven Master Architect
  EMC Proven Master Operator
  CTS Professional Services - Atlanta
  __
  
  [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type
  text/x-vcard which had a name
  of Thomas Crowe.vcf]
  to [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Re: Would this break the NDA [7:55799]

2002-10-17 Thread Thomas Larus
Your policy is definitely the safest.  The stakes are pretty high, and if
you ask, and Cisco refuses to answer, then you will know that it is not
something to discuss on this list.  Some may disagree with the policy, but
Cisco is in the driver's seat on its  NDA policy, and it is not worth
risking losing so much just to tilt at windmills.


Tom Larus, CCIE #10,014

Paul Jin  wrote in message
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 If you guys have any specific questions, you can write the CCIE team
 at Cisco and they will provide you the answers.  This way, you know for
sure
 it is not breaking the NDA.

 - Paul




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RE: Would this break the NDA [7:55799]

2002-10-17 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G
While I agree that it's probably the safest way to go about it, we're
talking about a terminal emulator here, not the actual content of the lab. I
guess there's a fine line between the NDA and paranoia! :-) I'll write Cisco
and get an answer. 

Shawn K.

 -Original Message-
 From: Thomas Larus [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 4:20 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: Would this break the NDA [7:55799]
 
 Your policy is definitely the safest.  The stakes are pretty high, and if
 you ask, and Cisco refuses to answer, then you will know that it is not
 something to discuss on this list.  Some may disagree with the policy, but
 Cisco is in the driver's seat on its  NDA policy, and it is not worth
 risking losing so much just to tilt at windmills.
 
 
 Tom Larus, CCIE #10,014
 
 Paul Jin  wrote in message
 news:200210171808.SAA07127;groupstudy.com...
  If you guys have any specific questions, you can write the CCIE team
  at Cisco and they will provide you the answers.  This way, you know for
 sure
  it is not breaking the NDA.
 
  - Paul




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RE: Would this break the NDA [7:55799]

2002-10-17 Thread Paul Jin
The issue here is beyond just the NDA, but also getting the right
info from Cisco as what is the current setup.  

If you guys are curious check this link.  It discusses what
was at the labs in the spring of this year.

http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200207/msg02557.html

Kaminski, Shawn G wrote:
 
 While I agree that it's probably the safest way to go about it,
 we're
 talking about a terminal emulator here, not the actual content
 of the lab. I
 guess there's a fine line between the NDA and paranoia! :-)
 I'll write Cisco
 and get an answer. 
 
 Shawn K.
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Thomas Larus [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Thursday, October 17, 2002 4:20 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:Re: Would this break the NDA [7:55799]
  
  Your policy is definitely the safest.  The stakes are pretty
 high, and if
  you ask, and Cisco refuses to answer, then you will know that
 it is not
  something to discuss on this list.  Some may disagree with
 the policy, but
  Cisco is in the driver's seat on its  NDA policy, and it is
 not worth
  risking losing so much just to tilt at windmills.
  
  
  Tom Larus, CCIE #10,014
  
  Paul Jin  wrote in message
  news:200210171808.SAA07127;groupstudy.com...
   If you guys have any specific questions, you can write the
 CCIE team
   at Cisco and they will provide you the answers.  This way,
 you know for
  sure
   it is not breaking the NDA.
  
   - Paul
 
 




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