Re: Zero CIR
I am pretty sure it means that the carrier is no guaranteeing any data rate. I know some gov agencies that got suckered into that agreement years ago. "John lay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Guys, > > Zero CIR means that the provider is comitted to provide nothing or there is > a mimimum ? > > Thanx > > > > > > ___ > Say Bye to Slow Internet! > http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Zero CIR
I agree "suckered" may not have been the best choice of wording to represent all who purchased a Zero CIR for the network. In some situations it my be appropriate. Lonnie - Original Message - From: "ElephantChild" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lonnie Paschall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 9:46 AM Subject: Re: Zero CIR > On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Lonnie Paschall wrote: > > > I am pretty sure it means that the carrier is no guaranteeing any data rate. > > I know some gov agencies that got suckered into that agreement years ago. > > Basically, that's what it means. But I would hesitate to use the word > "suckered". For one thing, it's dirt cheap. For another, it's basically > what you get from the Internet, so they should've known what they were > buying. "We'll do our best, but we can't guarantee that your data will > make it to the destination at all, let alone at any given rate" is what > "best effort" is all about. > > > "John lay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Guys, > > > > > > Zero CIR means that the provider is comitted to provide nothing or there > > is > > > a mimimum ? > > -- > Bungee jumping and skydiving are for wimps. If you want to experience > true gut-wrenching terror, have children. --Dusty Rhoades. > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Zero CIR
Yeah don't let them fool you with the old, if it is interlata that you don't need CIR. That is the minimal level of bandwidth that you substain with any packets getting marked DE. Having at least 25% CIR can make a noticible difference in performance. -Original Message- From: Lonnie Paschall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 7:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Zero CIR I am pretty sure it means that the carrier is no guaranteeing any data rate. I know some gov agencies that got suckered into that agreement years ago. "John lay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Guys, > > Zero CIR means that the provider is comitted to provide nothing or there is > a mimimum ? > > Thanx > > > > > > ___ > Say Bye to Slow Internet! > http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Zero CIR
- Original Message - From: "Lonnie Paschall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 8:50 AM Subject: Re: Zero CIR > I am pretty sure it means that the carrier is no guaranteeing any data rate. > I know some gov agencies that got suckered into that agreement years ago. > "John lay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Guys, > > > > Zero CIR means that the provider is comitted to provide nothing or there > is > > a mimimum ? > > > > Thanx > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Say Bye to Slow Internet! > > http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Zero CIR
Yes. The discard Eligibility bit is set for all of your frames. Depending on how oversubscribed the line is, this could be a okay, or bad. Also ask your provider about _C_ommited _B_urst _R_ate. Original Message Follows From: John lay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: John lay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Zero CIR Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 03:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Guys, Zero CIR means that the provider is comitted to provide nothing or there is a mimimum ? Thanx ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Zero CIR
However, with a zero CIR you also have to keep in mind that alot of carriers calculate the subscription load on their switch by the aggregate CIR of all of the customers on the switch. If they have alot of customers with a zero CIR on a given switch, then it is more likely to become over-subscribed (and bogged down). Fun huh? Not only do they promise diddly-squat, but you don't even count for anything (except money that is). Karen E Young Network Engineer ELF Technologies, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] ElephantChild fr> cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Subject: Re: Zero CIR nobody@groups tudy.com 09/07/2000 06:46 AM Please respond to ElephantChild On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Lonnie Paschall wrote: > I am pretty sure it means that the carrier is no guaranteeing any data rate. > I know some gov agencies that got suckered into that agreement years ago. Basically, that's what it means. But I would hesitate to use the word "suckered". For one thing, it's dirt cheap. For another, it's basically what you get from the Internet, so they should've known what they were buying. "We'll do our best, but we can't guarantee that your data will make it to the destination at all, let alone at any given rate" is what "best effort" is all about. > "John lay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Guys, > > > > Zero CIR means that the provider is comitted to provide nothing or there > is > > a mimimum ? -- Bungee jumping and skydiving are for wimps. If you want to experience true gut-wrenching terror, have children. --Dusty Rhoades. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associate-Announcement.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Zero CIR
Interesting thread. The company I work for is partnered with Sprint. When we sell frame service, 99% of the time we sell a 0 CIR unless there is voice involved. Have yet to have a problem with throughput. Scott Meyer CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, etc [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lonnie Paschall Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 9:46 AM To: ElephantChild Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Zero CIR I agree "suckered" may not have been the best choice of wording to represent all who purchased a Zero CIR for the network. In some situations it my be appropriate. Lonnie - Original Message - From: "ElephantChild" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lonnie Paschall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 9:46 AM Subject: Re: Zero CIR > On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Lonnie Paschall wrote: > > > I am pretty sure it means that the carrier is no guaranteeing any data rate. > > I know some gov agencies that got suckered into that agreement years ago. > > Basically, that's what it means. But I would hesitate to use the word > "suckered". For one thing, it's dirt cheap. For another, it's basically > what you get from the Internet, so they should've known what they were > buying. "We'll do our best, but we can't guarantee that your data will > make it to the destination at all, let alone at any given rate" is what > "best effort" is all about. > > > "John lay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Guys, > > > > > > Zero CIR means that the provider is comitted to provide nothing or there > > is > > > a mimimum ? > > -- > Bungee jumping and skydiving are for wimps. If you want to experience > true gut-wrenching terror, have children. --Dusty Rhoades. > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
