Re: Cisco Switches with Stonebeat [7:69505]
Thanks Ross/Richard, Some useful documents found with their search engine. I'll hopefully get to try the suggestions out this week. Regards, Bikespace ""Richard Botham"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Bikespace, > Just spent a day testing exactly this...spooky > > You're correct , Cisco's cannot put a multicast mac in its arp cache > dynamically - BUT - you CAN put STATIC ARP entries in a Cisco pointing to a > multicast mac.( Even if Layer3 is unicast) > > However there are some small perfomance points here ( only small !) > Turning CEF on does have some benefits but not huge amounts. > > I threw 100 * 512 byte UPD segments at the Cisco for 5 mins while using a > static multicast arp entry - It coped just fine. > > > HTH Rich Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=70292&t=69505 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Switches with Stonebeat [7:69505]
Bikespace, Just spent a day testing exactly this...spooky You're correct , Cisco's cannot put a multicast mac in its arp cache dynamically - BUT - you CAN put STATIC ARP entries in a Cisco pointing to a multicast mac.( Even if Layer3 is unicast) However there are some small perfomance points here ( only small !) Turning CEF on does have some benefits but not huge amounts. I threw 100 * 512 byte UPD segments at the Cisco for 5 mins while using a static multicast arp entry - It coped just fine. HTH Rich Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=69993&t=69505 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Switches with Stonebeat [7:69505]
Have you checked on Stonebeat's site? They have a number of articles relating to Cisco equipment and Stonebeat depending on the equipment involved. In particular, http://www.stonesoft.com/estone/support/knowledgebase/view.html?id=000475&q=cisco HTH Bikespace wrote: > > Hi All, > > Anybody got tales to tell about working with Stonebeat? > > I've been having some fun recently. Everything else seems to be > able to see > the firewall, but the Cisco is struggling, so devices on the > same VLAN > manage OK, because they ARP straight for the firewall. Devices > on other > VLAN's don't get through (the firewalls are connected to the > Cisco > directly). > > I've put static ARP entries in for the Firewall. The crunch is > the multicast > address used by the FIrewall (It's not VRRP which would be fine > - it's > definitely a Multicast 01005e) > > Cisco suggested enabling IP IGMP snooping. Yeah great - it's on > by default > on the 4500. > > I know Cisco's can not ARP for multicast addresses. I know you > can't add > static MAC entries for multicast, but this wouldn't help me too > much anyway > as the virtual address will obviously move. > > The switch must know where to forward the packets to as devices > on the same > VLAN are working, although it did not work until I put IP > redirects on. I > would have expected it to forward every packet individually > even without IP > redirect??? > > It's a bit of a sod as the customers switch is allowed about > half an hours > down time when organised a week ahead and its a couple of hours > away anyway. > Didn't give my brain time to churn before time was up. > > I may not get round this without actually setting up Stonebeat > in full to > test with, so I'm looking for "ANY" tips hints tricks before I > bite the > bullet. > > > I've prattled on enough for now. > > Cheers, > > Bikespace > > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=69672&t=69505 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco switches and laptops [7:56731]
Barry, not sure what you mean with 'it won't let go of their ip address from the last site they were at', but maybe this helps you: Troubleshooting Cisco Catalyst Switches to NIC Compatibility Issues http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/46.html Regards Reinhold On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 02:45:02PM +, Barry Warrick wrote: > I was wondering if anyone has experienced the same issues as we are having > at work. We have about 20 remote sites and are in the middle of a conversion > from 3com equipment to Cisco. Most of the sites we upgrade are getting a > Cisco Catalyst 2950 or 3550 switch. A pattern seems to be forming in that > after every site that is upgraded, a laptop user who bounces around from > site to site, cannot login because it won't let go of their ip address from > the last site they were at. No one has this problem at the remaining 3com > switch sites. At first I thought it was coincidence, but now its clear that > it happens at sites we change to cisco switches. I have enabled portfast on > all the switchports that are used for workstation access. This has > alleviated some of the problems with laptop users, but others still have > difficulty. Most users are using Dell laptops with Xircom network/modem > combo card. I thought for sure portfast would cure the issue, but it has > not. Anyone else have any experience, thoughts, or ideas? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=56744&t=56731 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco switches and laptops [7:56731]
Have you tried a different NIC? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nobody@;groupstudy.com] Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 8:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cisco switches and laptops [7:56731] I was wondering if anyone has experienced the same issues as we are having at work. We have about 20 remote sites and are in the middle of a conversion from 3com equipment to Cisco. Most of the sites we upgrade are getting a Cisco Catalyst 2950 or 3550 switch. A pattern seems to be forming in that after every site that is upgraded, a laptop user who bounces around from site to site, cannot login because it won't let go of their ip address from the last site they were at. No one has this problem at the remaining 3com switch sites. At first I thought it was coincidence, but now its clear that it happens at sites we change to cisco switches. I have enabled portfast on all the switchports that are used for workstation access. This has alleviated some of the problems with laptop users, but others still have difficulty. Most users are using Dell laptops with Xircom network/modem combo card. I thought for sure portfast would cure the issue, but it has not. Anyone else have any experience, thoughts, or ideas? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=56737&t=56731 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cisco switches (with MSFC) arp timer question [7:38635]
For step 3, it depends whether the link between core 1 and core 2 is a routed link or a trunk (ISL or 802.1Q) link. If its a routed link (such as VLAN 3, with all VLANs running OSPF), core 1 will route the packet to core 2 and core 2 will route the packet to client 2. For step 4, client 2 will not ARP for client 1. Since client 1 and client 2 are on different VLANs, client 2 will ARP for its default gateway - core 2. When core 2 receives the packet it will send it via core 1. Again, depending on whether this is a routed or trunked link will dictate exactly how this packet is sent from core 2 to core 1. Anytime a router (MSFC) needs to forward a packet to a client, if it does not have an ARP entry, it will ARP for the client. If a switch ages a MAC address out from its CAM table, it will flood (to all ports on the VLAN) the very first frame that has a destination of the "unknown" MAC address. Due to the flooding, the frame will reach the correct destination. Once that station replies with the very first packet, the CAM table will be updated and no more flooding will occur. Hope that helps - Rob. CCIE 6922 ""z z"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi > > One interesting scenario here. Two core switches (with > MSFC) running HSRP. Core 1 is the master for vlan 1, > and core 2 is the master for vlan 2. Understand MSFC > arp timer is 4 hours, but switch CAM timer is 300 > seconds. So there will be one problem: > > > 1. Client 1 (vlan 1) wants to talk to client 2 > (vlan2). It will send one frame to client 2 using Core > 1s mac address as the destination mac, because Core 1 > is its gw. > 2. Core 1 will check its routing table and forward the > packet to client 2. Meantime, it will change the > frames source mac address to its own mac and the des > mac to client 2s mac address. > 3. Core 2 will just simply switch the frame to client > 2, because core 1 has done the routing. To core 2, its > arp table and aft table wont contains client 1s mac > address so far, since core 1 has translated the > frames source mac address. > 4. When client 2 wants to reply, it will send the > replying packets to core 2. Core 2 will arp for client > 1s mac address. When client 1 reply this arp request, > core 2 will add its mac address to both its arp table > and aft table. > 5. this is working fine so far. > 6. after 300 seconds, core 2s aft table time out. > However its arp table is still valid, so it wont do > any more arp request. When client 2 wants to talk to > client 1, core 2 will do the routing correctly, but > then flood the frames to all the switch ports. > > Is my theory correct? > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage > http://sports.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38701&t=38635 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cisco switches (with MSFC) arp timer question [7:38635]
Yes you are correct. In native this would not be an issue on the 6500. Dave Larry Letterman wrote: > > I am assuming the switch/msfc is not running native ios.. > > Larry Letterman > Cisco Systems > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > MADMAN > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 7:13 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: cisco switches (with MSFC) arp timer question [7:38635] > > Interesting that you brought the differance in the ARP timers up. I > have seen some weird problems in a couple of network, things were not > breaking but would see strange traffic, packets getting dropped etc. > Bumped up the CAM timers on the Cat to match the routers, 14400. > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/62.shtml#casestudy8 > > This probably doesn't answer your question but it reminded me of the > this issue!! > > Dave > > z z wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > One interesting scenario here. Two core switches (with > > MSFC) running HSRP. Core 1 is the master for vlan 1, > > and core 2 is the master for vlan 2. Understand MSFC > > arp timer is 4 hours, but switch CAM timer is 300 > > seconds. So there will be one problem: > > > > 1. Client 1 (vlan 1) wants to talk to client 2 > > (vlan2). It will send one frame to client 2 using Core > > 1s mac address as the destination mac, because Core 1 > > is its gw. > > 2. Core 1 will check its routing table and forward the > > packet to client 2. Meantime, it will change the > > frames source mac address to its own mac and the des > > mac to client 2s mac address. > > 3. Core 2 will just simply switch the frame to client > > 2, because core 1 has done the routing. To core 2, its > > arp table and aft table wont contains client 1s mac > > address so far, since core 1 has translated the > > frames source mac address. > > 4. When client 2 wants to reply, it will send the > > replying packets to core 2. Core 2 will arp for client > > 1s mac address. When client 1 reply this arp request, > > core 2 will add its mac address to both its arp table > > and aft table. > > 5. this is working fine so far. > > 6. after 300 seconds, core 2s aft table time out. > > However its arp table is still valid, so it wont do > > any more arp request. When client 2 wants to talk to > > client 1, core 2 will do the routing correctly, but > > then flood the frames to all the switch ports. > > > > Is my theory correct? > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage > > http://sports.yahoo.com/ > -- > David Madland > Sr. Network Engineer > CCIE# 2016 > Qwest Communications Int. Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 612-664-3367 > > "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it" Larry Letterman wrote: > > I am assuming the switch/msfc is not running native ios.. > > Larry Letterman > Cisco Systems > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > MADMAN > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 7:13 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: cisco switches (with MSFC) arp timer question [7:38635] > > Interesting that you brought the differance in the ARP timers up. I > have seen some weird problems in a couple of network, things were not > breaking but would see strange traffic, packets getting dropped etc. > Bumped up the CAM timers on the Cat to match the routers, 14400. > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/62.shtml#casestudy8 > > This probably doesn't answer your question but it reminded me of the > this issue!! > > Dave > > z z wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > One interesting scenario here. Two core switches (with > > MSFC) running HSRP. Core 1 is the master for vlan 1, > > and core 2 is the master for vlan 2. Understand MSFC > > arp timer is 4 hours, but switch CAM timer is 300 > > seconds. So there will be one problem: > > > > 1. Client 1 (vlan 1) wants to talk to client 2 > > (vlan2). It will send one frame to client 2 using Core > > 1s mac address as the destination mac, because Core 1 > > is its gw. > > 2. Core 1 will check its routing table and forward the > > packet to client 2. Meantime, it will change the > > frames source mac address to its own mac and the des > > mac to client 2s mac address. > > 3. Core 2 will just simply switch the frame to client > > 2, beca
RE: cisco switches (with MSFC) arp timer question [7:38635]
I am assuming the switch/msfc is not running native ios.. Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of MADMAN Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 7:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: cisco switches (with MSFC) arp timer question [7:38635] Interesting that you brought the differance in the ARP timers up. I have seen some weird problems in a couple of network, things were not breaking but would see strange traffic, packets getting dropped etc. Bumped up the CAM timers on the Cat to match the routers, 14400. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/62.shtml#casestudy8 This probably doesn't answer your question but it reminded me of the this issue!! Dave z z wrote: > > Hi > > One interesting scenario here. Two core switches (with > MSFC) running HSRP. Core 1 is the master for vlan 1, > and core 2 is the master for vlan 2. Understand MSFC > arp timer is 4 hours, but switch CAM timer is 300 > seconds. So there will be one problem: > > 1. Client 1 (vlan 1) wants to talk to client 2 > (vlan2). It will send one frame to client 2 using Core > 1s mac address as the destination mac, because Core 1 > is its gw. > 2. Core 1 will check its routing table and forward the > packet to client 2. Meantime, it will change the > frames source mac address to its own mac and the des > mac to client 2s mac address. > 3. Core 2 will just simply switch the frame to client > 2, because core 1 has done the routing. To core 2, its > arp table and aft table wont contains client 1s mac > address so far, since core 1 has translated the > frames source mac address. > 4. When client 2 wants to reply, it will send the > replying packets to core 2. Core 2 will arp for client > 1s mac address. When client 1 reply this arp request, > core 2 will add its mac address to both its arp table > and aft table. > 5. this is working fine so far. > 6. after 300 seconds, core 2s aft table time out. > However its arp table is still valid, so it wont do > any more arp request. When client 2 wants to talk to > client 1, core 2 will do the routing correctly, but > then flood the frames to all the switch ports. > > Is my theory correct? > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage > http://sports.yahoo.com/ -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it" Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38664&t=38635 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cisco switches (with MSFC) arp timer question [7:38635]
Interesting that you brought the differance in the ARP timers up. I have seen some weird problems in a couple of network, things were not breaking but would see strange traffic, packets getting dropped etc. Bumped up the CAM timers on the Cat to match the routers, 14400. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/62.shtml#casestudy8 This probably doesn't answer your question but it reminded me of the this issue!! Dave z z wrote: > > Hi > > One interesting scenario here. Two core switches (with > MSFC) running HSRP. Core 1 is the master for vlan 1, > and core 2 is the master for vlan 2. Understand MSFC > arp timer is 4 hours, but switch CAM timer is 300 > seconds. So there will be one problem: > > 1. Client 1 (vlan 1) wants to talk to client 2 > (vlan2). It will send one frame to client 2 using Core > 1s mac address as the destination mac, because Core 1 > is its gw. > 2. Core 1 will check its routing table and forward the > packet to client 2. Meantime, it will change the > frames source mac address to its own mac and the des > mac to client 2s mac address. > 3. Core 2 will just simply switch the frame to client > 2, because core 1 has done the routing. To core 2, its > arp table and aft table wont contains client 1s mac > address so far, since core 1 has translated the > frames source mac address. > 4. When client 2 wants to reply, it will send the > replying packets to core 2. Core 2 will arp for client > 1s mac address. When client 1 reply this arp request, > core 2 will add its mac address to both its arp table > and aft table. > 5. this is working fine so far. > 6. after 300 seconds, core 2s aft table time out. > However its arp table is still valid, so it wont do > any more arp request. When client 2 wants to talk to > client 1, core 2 will do the routing correctly, but > then flood the frames to all the switch ports. > > Is my theory correct? > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage > http://sports.yahoo.com/ -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it" Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38655&t=38635 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco switches or HP switches? Which to buy?
It really depends on your envioronment and applications. If you need just closet switch, HP will do it. I have worked with Procurves, no problems with them at all. You can save good money on HP switches and they have lifetime warranty. Inamul ""Bruce Seelinger"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 94ss9h$dfa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:94ss9h$dfa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Remember - you may not be saving money by buying less expensive hardware > with the same functionality. You need to factor in the support available, > the reliability of the hardware, the uprgadeability, managability, etc., > etc. You may save several hundred dollars on a switch but that does not add > up to much if your network is down for several hours because of reliability > issues. > > I do not have firsthand experience with the HP line if switches so I am NOT > implying that their hardware is unreliable. All I am saying is that you > have to consider the big picture. > > fartcatcher wrote in message <94sjci$9uv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > >Hello, we're planning on upgrading our unmanageable switches to manageable > >ones. I've been looking at the 2924 XL models and they look like they'll do > >for us, but somone told me that hp switches are cheaper and faster than > >cisco's. Is this true? Does anyone have an opinion/experience with this? I > am > >leaning toward Cisco (mainly because I could use the switches for the > >switching exam). > > > >Thanks, > >FC > > > >_ > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco switches or HP switches? Which to buy?
Remember - you may not be saving money by buying less expensive hardware with the same functionality. You need to factor in the support available, the reliability of the hardware, the uprgadeability, managability, etc., etc. You may save several hundred dollars on a switch but that does not add up to much if your network is down for several hours because of reliability issues. I do not have firsthand experience with the HP line if switches so I am NOT implying that their hardware is unreliable. All I am saying is that you have to consider the big picture. fartcatcher wrote in message <94sjci$9uv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... >Hello, we're planning on upgrading our unmanageable switches to manageable >ones. I've been looking at the 2924 XL models and they look like they'll do >for us, but somone told me that hp switches are cheaper and faster than >cisco's. Is this true? Does anyone have an opinion/experience with this? I am >leaning toward Cisco (mainly because I could use the switches for the >switching exam). > >Thanks, >FC > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cisco switches
Well last time I checked this was a study group. And Cisco might care for their tests. So, it might be a good idea to know the difference. Its not that hard. I believe 4000 and up run switch IOS and everything below that is router type IOS. John - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 10:55 AM Subject: Re: cisco switches > Yes, but in the real world, I like Duck's attitude. Basically he's saying > that he doesn't need to memorize which switch has IOS. He is not > intimidated by any switch because they all basically do the same thing, and > he has learned enough configuration commands in both command sets to feel > comfortable. I could see hiring such a person even if he did flunk the > test! Just a thought > > Priscilla > > At 12:25 PM 9/13/00, Neil Schneider wrote: > >Possibly your "who cares!" attitute and your 347 score are related? Just a > >thought. > > > > > >Neil > > > > > >""Donald B Johnson Jr"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > >030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > who cares!!! when you console, or telnet, or tenlet in you will find out > > > which command set you are using. > > > If you know what a switch can do you should be allright. > > > I just took the switching test and scored a 347 after six weeks of study > >'m > > > not too depressed but I got to get back to reading. > > > Duck > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: Re: cisco switches > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > << hi all, > > > > > > > > > > Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about > > > > > the others? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer > http://www.priscilla.com > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cisco switches
Test taking skills and real-world skills sometimes overlap and are related but not always. I've met scores of people who are excellent at taking and passing tests of any kind, but have spent most of their lives in a classroom and have little high-pressure real-world experience. In that light, I tend to regard someone who has passed a computer-based test as someone who has the basics of a subject memorized, which is often the first step in an apprenticeship. However, there are many people who have lots of hands-on experience who can't ace a CCNP/CCDP test because they aren't good at tests or haven't studied the test material (very little of which you really need to have memorized in the real-world to do your job). I passed all those CCNP and CCDP tests a couple of years ago and remain somewhat disgusted about how much useless nonsense I had to memorize. On a daily basis I would say I use less than 10% of the test material in my job as a network engineer. Jonathan Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > Yes, but in the real world, I like Duck's attitude. Basically he's saying > that he doesn't need to memorize which switch has IOS. He is not > intimidated by any switch because they all basically do the same thing, and > he has learned enough configuration commands in both command sets to feel > comfortable. I could see hiring such a person even if he did flunk the > test! Just a thought > > Priscilla > > At 12:25 PM 9/13/00, Neil Schneider wrote: > >Possibly your "who cares!" attitute and your 347 score are related? Just a > >thought. > > > > > >Neil > > > > > >""Donald B Johnson Jr"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > >030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > who cares!!! when you console, or telnet, or tenlet in you will find out > > > which command set you are using. > > > If you know what a switch can do you should be allright. > > > I just took the switching test and scored a 347 after six weeks of study > >'m > > > not too depressed but I got to get back to reading. > > > Duck > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: Re: cisco switches > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > << hi all, > > > > > > > > > > Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about > > > > > the others? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer > http://www.priscilla.com > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: cisco switches
hi brian Thanks for the explanation to the group and I hope you guys understand. Anyway thanks for all your help in one way or another Jason -Original Message- From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 10:24 AM To: Bellanca Smythe Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Yee, Jason; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: cisco switches thats not really the vibe I get. He is studying for CCNP and half way there. I feel he is probably a little impatient, and asks here instead of referencing, no matter how simple the question..that seems to piss some off. I feel his employer has tasked him with "make this work" as an excecise, probably not production equipment, and then he comes here when he has trouble. He is lucky to have a job to play with this stuff that alot of you don't have..hell that in itself should be inspiration. I don't dislike paper network engineers so long as they don't front. If you study hard, pass some tests, and no doubt learn a hell of alot...then you have done goodputting that to acutal use will be challenging but you have completed step one at least. Brian On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Bellanca Smythe wrote: > I'm surprised Jason is getting so many people on this list helping him > troubleshoot his day to day job. Jason appears to be what the group > dislikes most - a paper network engineer. > > He's using the group to do all his consulting for him, for free. If > you're into supporting that, by all means, keep helping him. > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: cisco switches > > > > > > In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > << hi all, > > > > Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about > > the others? > > > > > > > > Jason > > >> > > > > Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past > > couple months > > that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM" ;) > > > > To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820 and > > 2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based > > commands start at > > the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000 > > and up...I may > > be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM" ;) > > > > Hope I helped... > > > > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > "Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; > > it is not a > > thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved." > > > > > > ~William Jennings Bryan~ > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > _ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- Brian Feeny, CCNA, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cisco switches
Yes, the scale on the cisco exams is 300-1000, a 700 point range. Neil ""Donald B Johnson Jr"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 039001c01de7$aab4cb40$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:039001c01de7$aab4cb40$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > See what I'm talking about. You don't get 300 points. That attitude is not > the good attitude Neil. I was joking you guys are serious you think you get > 300 points. No. That is just a scale in the adaptive testing format. You > mean to tell me if you answer 1 question right get a 333 you are 1/3 of the > way to a 1000. Novell pioneered the adaptive testing technique, you people > should read that to get a clear understanding on adaptive testing. > Duck > - Original Message - > From: Ejay Hire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 11:28 AM > Subject: Re: cisco switches > > > > No. > > > > (only 300) > > > > > > Original Message Follows > > From: "J K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: "J K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: cisco switches > > Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:48:31 GMT > > > > > > dont you get 400 for typing your ssn in correcly and sitting in the right > > sylvan seat . Ah Who Cares ! > > > > > > > > >From: "Neil Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: "Neil Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: Re: cisco switches > > >Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:25:54 -0400 > > > > > >Possibly your "who cares!" attitute and your 347 score are related? Just > a > > >thought. > > > > > > > > >Neil > > > > > > > > >""Donald B Johnson Jr"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > >030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > who cares!!! when you console, or telnet, or tenlet in you will find > > >out > > > > which command set you are using. > > > > If you know what a switch can do you should be allright. > > > > I just took the switching test and scored a 347 after six weeks of > study > > >'m > > > > not too depressed but I got to get back to reading. > > > > Duck > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: Bellanca Smythe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 7:34 AM > > > > Subject: RE: cisco switches > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm surprised Jason is getting so many people on this list helping > him > > > > troubleshoot his day to day job. Jason appears to be what the group > > >dislikes > > > > most - a paper network engineer. > > > > > > > > > > He's using the group to do all his consulting for him, for free. If > > > > you're into supporting that, by all means, keep helping him. > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf > > >Of > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Subject: Re: cisco switches > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > << hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about > > > > > > the others? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past > > > > > > couple months > > > > > > that could be answered extremely simply by a simple > phrase"RTFM" > > > > ;) > > > > > > > >
Re: cisco switches
See what I'm talking about. You don't get 300 points. That attitude is not the good attitude Neil. I was joking you guys are serious you think you get 300 points. No. That is just a scale in the adaptive testing format. You mean to tell me if you answer 1 question right get a 333 you are 1/3 of the way to a 1000. Novell pioneered the adaptive testing technique, you people should read that to get a clear understanding on adaptive testing. Duck - Original Message - From: Ejay Hire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 11:28 AM Subject: Re: cisco switches > No. > > (only 300) > > > Original Message Follows > From: "J K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "J K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: cisco switches > Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:48:31 GMT > > > dont you get 400 for typing your ssn in correcly and sitting in the right > sylvan seat . Ah Who Cares ! > > > > >From: "Neil Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "Neil Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: cisco switches > >Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:25:54 -0400 > > > >Possibly your "who cares!" attitute and your 347 score are related? Just a > >thought. > > > > > >Neil > > > > > >""Donald B Johnson Jr"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > >030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > who cares!!! when you console, or telnet, or tenlet in you will find > >out > > > which command set you are using. > > > If you know what a switch can do you should be allright. > > > I just took the switching test and scored a 347 after six weeks of study > >'m > > > not too depressed but I got to get back to reading. > > > Duck > > > - Original Message - > > > From: Bellanca Smythe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 7:34 AM > > > Subject: RE: cisco switches > > > > > > > > > > I'm surprised Jason is getting so many people on this list helping him > > > troubleshoot his day to day job. Jason appears to be what the group > >dislikes > > > most - a paper network engineer. > > > > > > > > He's using the group to do all his consulting for him, for free. If > > > you're into supporting that, by all means, keep helping him. > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf > >Of > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: Re: cisco switches > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > << hi all, > > > > > > > > > > Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about > > > > > the others? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past > > > > > couple months > > > > > that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM" > > > ;) > > > > > > > > > > To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820 > >and > > > > > 2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based > > > > > commands start at > > > > > the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000 > > > > > and up...I may > > > > > be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM" > >;) > > > > > > > > > > Hope I helped... > > > > > > > > > > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > "Destiny is not a ma
Re: cisco switches
Oh yeah I just remebered I got a 934 on that switching test my finger got stuck. I'll scan it and post if anyone doubts it. I know there was a chuckle there, bordered on belly roll. Bingo priscilla if you know what vlans are and multicasting is a STP is HSRP is My mother says: Donald time for dinner My brother says: yo duck lets eat My father says: Buddy-Boy don't make me call you again!! either way i get my belly full cause I understand that concept of dinner. all those commands work. what do you think i,m brain dead i wouldn't tell anybody if I got a 347. I'm not going in there with a Jedi send in a droid. Pricsilla thanks for coming to the defense of all those that turn it on and make it work. Looking forward to reading your work, it is on my reading list and about fourth in the queue. Working on Doyle right now. I'd shoot you a resume but I got a good ride right now. I apoligize to the group but I don't think cisco even cares which runs on which, that's just extraneous stuff that you read in study guides. If the test is truly adaptive I'd give a question like that a one, and a question about routing between VLANS or configuring a router for a dense-mode network a tad higher in the score count. Duck - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 10:55 AM Subject: Re: cisco switches > Yes, but in the real world, I like Duck's attitude. Basically he's saying > that he doesn't need to memorize which switch has IOS. He is not > intimidated by any switch because they all basically do the same thing, and > he has learned enough configuration commands in both command sets to feel > comfortable. I could see hiring such a person even if he did flunk the > test! Just a thought > > Priscilla > > At 12:25 PM 9/13/00, Neil Schneider wrote: > >Possibly your "who cares!" attitute and your 347 score are related? Just a > >thought. > > > > > >Neil > > > > > >""Donald B Johnson Jr"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > >030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > who cares!!! when you console, or telnet, or tenlet in you will find out > > > which command set you are using. > > > If you know what a switch can do you should be allright. > > > I just took the switching test and scored a 347 after six weeks of study > >'m > > > not too depressed but I got to get back to reading. > > > Duck > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: Re: cisco switches > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > << hi all, > > > > > > > > > > Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about > > > > > the others? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer > http://www.priscilla.com > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cisco switches
I had the test admin help me with the sign-on process. Duck - Original Message - From: J K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 10:48 AM Subject: Re: cisco switches > > dont you get 400 for typing your ssn in correcly and sitting in the right > sylvan seat . Ah Who Cares ! > > > > >From: "Neil Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "Neil Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: cisco switches > >Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:25:54 -0400 > > > >Possibly your "who cares!" attitute and your 347 score are related? Just a > >thought. > > > > > >Neil > > > > > >""Donald B Johnson Jr"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > >030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > who cares!!! when you console, or telnet, or tenlet in you will find > >out > > > which command set you are using. > > > If you know what a switch can do you should be allright. > > > I just took the switching test and scored a 347 after six weeks of study > >'m > > > not too depressed but I got to get back to reading. > > > Duck > > > - Original Message - > > > From: Bellanca Smythe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 7:34 AM > > > Subject: RE: cisco switches > > > > > > > > > > I'm surprised Jason is getting so many people on this list helping him > > > troubleshoot his day to day job. Jason appears to be what the group > >dislikes > > > most - a paper network engineer. > > > > > > > > He's using the group to do all his consulting for him, for free. If > > > you're into supporting that, by all means, keep helping him. > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf > >Of > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: Re: cisco switches > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > << hi all, > > > > > > > > > > Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about > > > > > the others? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past > > > > > couple months > > > > > that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM" > > > ;) > > > > > > > > > > To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820 > >and > > > > > 2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based > > > > > commands start at > > > > > the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000 > > > > > and up...I may > > > > > be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM" > >;) > > > > > > > > > > Hope I helped... > > > > > > > > > > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > "Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; > > > > > it is not a > > > > > thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~William Jennings Bryan~ > > > > > > > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go > >to > > > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > > > > _ > > > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >
Re: cisco switches
And the other 47 was for completing the survey , hahaha Mark Z...stuff certified... **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cisco switches
No. (only 300) Original Message Follows From: "J K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "J K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: cisco switches Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:48:31 GMT dont you get 400 for typing your ssn in correcly and sitting in the right sylvan seat . Ah Who Cares ! >From: "Neil Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Neil Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: cisco switches >Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:25:54 -0400 > >Possibly your "who cares!" attitute and your 347 score are related? Just a >thought. > > >Neil > > >""Donald B Johnson Jr"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > who cares!!! when you console, or telnet, or tenlet in you will find >out > > which command set you are using. > > If you know what a switch can do you should be allright. > > I just took the switching test and scored a 347 after six weeks of study >'m > > not too depressed but I got to get back to reading. > > Duck > > ----- Original Message - > > From: Bellanca Smythe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 7:34 AM > > Subject: RE: cisco switches > > > > > > > I'm surprised Jason is getting so many people on this list helping him > > troubleshoot his day to day job. Jason appears to be what the group >dislikes > > most - a paper network engineer. > > > > > > He's using the group to do all his consulting for him, for free. If > > you're into supporting that, by all means, keep helping him. > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf >Of > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: cisco switches > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > << hi all, > > > > > > > > Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about > > > > the others? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past > > > > couple months > > > > that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM" > > ;) > > > > > > > > To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820 >and > > > > 2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based > > > > commands start at > > > > the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000 > > > > and up...I may > > > > be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM" >;) > > > > > > > > Hope I helped... > > > > > > > > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > "Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; > > > > it is not a > > > > thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved." > > > > > > > > > > > > ~William Jennings Bryan~ > > > > > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go >to > > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > > > _ > > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > > _ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report misc
Re: cisco switches
True Percilla, but I would rather hire someone who could actually make the switches do what he knows they can. Also, the BCMSN had around 5 or 6 command questions, so it wasn't just the CLI that got him... ;) P.S. Love your book ;) Mark Z ~ CCNA/DA 1/4-NP **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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True, assuming that attitude did not carry over into other areas of his work. Neil "Priscilla Oppenheimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Yes, but in the real world, I like Duck's attitude. Basically he's saying > that he doesn't need to memorize which switch has IOS. He is not > intimidated by any switch because they all basically do the same thing, and > he has learned enough configuration commands in both command sets to feel > comfortable. I could see hiring such a person even if he did flunk the > test! Just a thought > > Priscilla > > At 12:25 PM 9/13/00, Neil Schneider wrote: > >Possibly your "who cares!" attitute and your 347 score are related? Just a > >thought. > > > > > >Neil > > > > > >""Donald B Johnson Jr"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > >030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > who cares!!! when you console, or telnet, or tenlet in you will find out > > > which command set you are using. > > > If you know what a switch can do you should be allright. > > > I just took the switching test and scored a 347 after six weeks of study > >'m > > > not too depressed but I got to get back to reading. > > > Duck > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: Re: cisco switches > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > << hi all, > > > > > > > > > > Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about > > > > > the others? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer > http://www.priscilla.com > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cisco switches
No, only 300! Neil ""J K"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > dont you get 400 for typing your ssn in correcly and sitting in the right > sylvan seat . Ah Who Cares ! > > > > >From: "Neil Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "Neil Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: cisco switches > >Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:25:54 -0400 > > > >Possibly your "who cares!" attitute and your 347 score are related? Just a > >thought. > > > > > >Neil > > > > > >""Donald B Johnson Jr"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > >030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > who cares!!! when you console, or telnet, or tenlet in you will find > >out > > > which command set you are using. > > > If you know what a switch can do you should be allright. > > > I just took the switching test and scored a 347 after six weeks of study > >'m > > > not too depressed but I got to get back to reading. > > > Duck > > > - Original Message - > > > From: Bellanca Smythe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 7:34 AM > > > Subject: RE: cisco switches > > > > > > > > > > I'm surprised Jason is getting so many people on this list helping him > > > troubleshoot his day to day job. Jason appears to be what the group > >dislikes > > > most - a paper network engineer. > > > > > > > > He's using the group to do all his consulting for him, for free. If > > > you're into supporting that, by all means, keep helping him. > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf > >Of > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: Re: cisco switches > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > << hi all, > > > > > > > > > > Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about > > > > > the others? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past > > > > > couple months > > > > > that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM" > > > ;) > > > > > > > > > > To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820 > >and > > > > > 2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based > > > > > commands start at > > > > > the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000 > > > > > and up...I may > > > > > be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM" > >;) > > > > > > > > > > Hope I helped... > > > > > > > > > > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > "Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; > > > > > it is not a > > > > > thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~William Jennings Bryan~ > > > > > > > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go > >to > > > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > > > > _ > > > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > &g
Re: cisco switches
Yes, but in the real world, I like Duck's attitude. Basically he's saying that he doesn't need to memorize which switch has IOS. He is not intimidated by any switch because they all basically do the same thing, and he has learned enough configuration commands in both command sets to feel comfortable. I could see hiring such a person even if he did flunk the test! Just a thought Priscilla At 12:25 PM 9/13/00, Neil Schneider wrote: >Possibly your "who cares!" attitute and your 347 score are related? Just a >thought. > > >Neil > > >""Donald B Johnson Jr"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > who cares!!! when you console, or telnet, or tenlet in you will find out > > which command set you are using. > > If you know what a switch can do you should be allright. > > I just took the switching test and scored a 347 after six weeks of study >'m > > not too depressed but I got to get back to reading. > > Duck > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: cisco switches > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > << hi all, > > > > > > > > Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about > > > > the others? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cisco switches
dont you get 400 for typing your ssn in correcly and sitting in the right sylvan seat . Ah Who Cares ! >From: "Neil Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Neil Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: cisco switches >Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:25:54 -0400 > >Possibly your "who cares!" attitute and your 347 score are related? Just a >thought. > > >Neil > > >""Donald B Johnson Jr"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > who cares!!! when you console, or telnet, or tenlet in you will find >out > > which command set you are using. > > If you know what a switch can do you should be allright. > > I just took the switching test and scored a 347 after six weeks of study >'m > > not too depressed but I got to get back to reading. > > Duck > > - Original Message - > > From: Bellanca Smythe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 7:34 AM > > Subject: RE: cisco switches > > > > > > > I'm surprised Jason is getting so many people on this list helping him > > troubleshoot his day to day job. Jason appears to be what the group >dislikes > > most - a paper network engineer. > > > > > > He's using the group to do all his consulting for him, for free. If > > you're into supporting that, by all means, keep helping him. > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf >Of > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: cisco switches > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > << hi all, > > > > > > > > Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about > > > > the others? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past > > > > couple months > > > > that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM" > > ;) > > > > > > > > To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820 >and > > > > 2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based > > > > commands start at > > > > the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000 > > > > and up...I may > > > > be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM" >;) > > > > > > > > Hope I helped... > > > > > > > > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > "Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; > > > > it is not a > > > > thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved." > > > > > > > > > > > > ~William Jennings Bryan~ > > > > > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go >to > > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > > > _ > > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > > _ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > >
Re: cisco switches
Paraphrasing Blazing Saddles: "Dunno. Somethin' about where switch-switch go. Jason only pawn in game of life. " LOL, Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > / > Jason is no average dummy. He's got a real live database providing support to > him. I'll bet his boss thinks he's a guru. He'll probably get his H-1B > renewed. > \ > > > > Quoting Bellanca Smythe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I'm surprised Jason is getting so many people on this list helping him > > troubleshoot his day to day job. Jason appears to be what the group > > dislikes most - a paper network engineer. > > > > He's using the group to do all his consulting for him, for free. If you're > > into supporting that, by all means, keep helping him. > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: cisco switches > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > > > << hi all, > > > > > > Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about > > > the others? > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > >> > > > > > > Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past > > > couple months > > > that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM" ;) > > > > > > To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820 and > > > 2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based > > > commands start at > > > the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000 > > > and up...I may > > > be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM" ;) > > > > > > Hope I helped... > > > > > > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > "Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; > > > it is not a > > > thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved." > > > > > > > > > ~William Jennings Bryan~ > > > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > > _ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > _ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > - > This mail sent through Atlantic.Net Webmail: http://webmail.atlantic.net/ > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thank you for saying that for me!!! ;) I almost forgot about him. I studied a week less than him and got an OK 803 on Monday... Attitude counts!!! **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thank you for saying that for me!!! ;) I almost forgot about him. I studied a week less than him and got an OK 803 on Monday... Attitude counts!!! **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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/ Jason is no average dummy. He's got a real live database providing support to him. I'll bet his boss thinks he's a guru. He'll probably get his H-1B renewed. \ Quoting Bellanca Smythe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm surprised Jason is getting so many people on this list helping him > troubleshoot his day to day job. Jason appears to be what the group > dislikes most - a paper network engineer. > > He's using the group to do all his consulting for him, for free. If you're > into supporting that, by all means, keep helping him. > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: cisco switches > > > > > > In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > << hi all, > > > > Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about > > the others? > > > > > > > > Jason > > >> > > > > Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past > > couple months > > that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM" ;) > > > > To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820 and > > 2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based > > commands start at > > the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000 > > and up...I may > > be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM" ;) > > > > Hope I helped... > > > > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > "Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; > > it is not a > > thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved." > > > > > > ~William Jennings Bryan~ > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > _ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - This mail sent through Atlantic.Net Webmail: http://webmail.atlantic.net/ **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cisco switches
Possibly your "who cares!" attitute and your 347 score are related? Just a thought. Neil ""Donald B Johnson Jr"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > who cares!!! when you console, or telnet, or tenlet in you will find out > which command set you are using. > If you know what a switch can do you should be allright. > I just took the switching test and scored a 347 after six weeks of study 'm > not too depressed but I got to get back to reading. > Duck > - Original Message - > From: Bellanca Smythe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 7:34 AM > Subject: RE: cisco switches > > > > I'm surprised Jason is getting so many people on this list helping him > troubleshoot his day to day job. Jason appears to be what the group dislikes > most - a paper network engineer. > > > > He's using the group to do all his consulting for him, for free. If > you're into supporting that, by all means, keep helping him. > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: cisco switches > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > > > << hi all, > > > > > > Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about > > > the others? > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > >> > > > > > > Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past > > > couple months > > > that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM" > ;) > > > > > > To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820 and > > > 2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based > > > commands start at > > > the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000 > > > and up...I may > > > be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM" ;) > > > > > > Hope I helped... > > > > > > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > "Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; > > > it is not a > > > thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved." > > > > > > > > > ~William Jennings Bryan~ > > > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > > _ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > _ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cisco switches
who cares!!! when you console, or telnet, or tenlet in you will find out which command set you are using. If you know what a switch can do you should be allright. I just took the switching test and scored a 347 after six weeks of study 'm not too depressed but I got to get back to reading. Duck - Original Message - From: Bellanca Smythe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 7:34 AM Subject: RE: cisco switches > I'm surprised Jason is getting so many people on this list helping him troubleshoot his day to day job. Jason appears to be what the group dislikes most - a paper network engineer. > > He's using the group to do all his consulting for him, for free. If you're into supporting that, by all means, keep helping him. > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: cisco switches > > > > > > In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > << hi all, > > > > Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about > > the others? > > > > > > > > Jason > > >> > > > > Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past > > couple months > > that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM" ;) > > > > To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820 and > > 2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based > > commands start at > > the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000 > > and up...I may > > be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM" ;) > > > > Hope I helped... > > > > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > "Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; > > it is not a > > thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved." > > > > > > ~William Jennings Bryan~ > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > _ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: cisco switches
I disagree. From what I have seen Jason is 'learning the ropes' in an organized and focused manner. IMO, he asks good questions and typically only after researching and reaching an impasse, this time being an exception. He is also one of the more active posters on the list in the time I have been subscribed. I have benefited from many of these threads. That said, the question you are responding to could be answered with a polite link to www.cisco.com . Casey >From: "Bellanca Smythe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Bellanca Smythe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: cisco switches >Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 08:34:51 -0600 > >I'm surprised Jason is getting so many people on this list helping him >troubleshoot his day to day job. Jason appears to be what the group >dislikes most - a paper network engineer. > >He's using the group to do all his consulting for him, for free. If you're >into supporting that, by all means, keep helping him. > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: cisco switches > > > > > > In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > << hi all, > > > > Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about > > the others? > > > > > > > > Jason > > >> > > > > Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past > > couple months > > that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM" >;) > > > > To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820 and > > 2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based > > commands start at > > the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000 > > and up...I may > > be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM" ;) > > > > Hope I helped... > > > > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > "Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; > > it is not a > > thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved." > > > > > > ~William Jennings Bryan~ > > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > > _ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >**NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html >_ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: cisco switches
I'm surprised Jason is getting so many people on this list helping him troubleshoot his day to day job. Jason appears to be what the group dislikes most - a paper network engineer. He's using the group to do all his consulting for him, for free. If you're into supporting that, by all means, keep helping him. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: cisco switches > > > In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > << hi all, > > Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about > the others? > > > > Jason > >> > > Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past > couple months > that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM" ;) > > To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820 and > 2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based > commands start at > the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000 > and up...I may > be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM" ;) > > Hope I helped... > > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; > it is not a > thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved." > > > ~William Jennings Bryan~ > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cisco switches
RTFM = Read The F#cking Manuals? LOL This is a new one to me. John - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 8:34 PM Subject: Re: cisco switches > In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > << hi all, > > Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about the others? > > > > Jason > >> > > Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past couple months > that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM" ;) > > To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820 and > 2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based commands start at > the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000 and up...I may > be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM" ;) > > Hope I helped... > > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a > thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved." > > ~William Jennings Bryan~ > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cisco switches
4000 series switches use 'set commands' as opposed to router IOS. Otherwise, you are correct in what you said Mark. John - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 8:34 PM Subject: Re: cisco switches > In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > << hi all, > > Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about the others? > > > > Jason > >> > > Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past couple months > that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM" ;) > > To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820 and > 2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based commands start at > the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000 and up...I may > be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM" ;) > > Hope I helped... > > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a > thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved." > > ~William Jennings Bryan~ > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cisco switches
In a message dated 9/12/00 11:08:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << cat 1900 does not run IOS... a RSM is needed for all Cat switchs to run IOS, i think >> Incorrect...the 1900 does in fact have a IOS CLI...and RSM is used for multilayer switching in a switch... Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved." ~William Jennings Bryan~ **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cisco switches
In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << hi all, Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about the others? Jason >> Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past couple months that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM" ;) To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820 and 2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based commands start at the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000 and up...I may be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM" ;) Hope I helped... Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved." ~William Jennings Bryan~ **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cisco switches
cat 1900 does not run IOS... a RSM is needed for all Cat switchs to run IOS, i think "Yee, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 859B90209E2FD311BE5600902751445D35EFBC@LYNX">news:859B90209E2FD311BE5600902751445D35EFBC@LYNX... > hi all, > > Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about the others? > > > > Jason > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
