Re: Richard A. Deal Books [7:62027]
GM, It depends :-). First, you typically get an advance. This varies, but can be between $5,000 and $15,000, depending on the subject (how hot it is) and the previous track record of the author. This money counts against any royalties that you make...which is why they call it an advance. You then get royalties. Royalties are based on net profit of the book. As an example, if a book says it costs $50 on the cover, this is considered gross profit. Net profit is what the publisher gets for the book. The publisher typically marks the book up by about 50%. This can vary depending on whether the book is hard or soft-bound, includes CDs, and its page length, as well as other things. So net profit on a $50 book is about $25. You get a percentage of the $25. Royalties can range anywhere from a very low 5% up to about %18 percent. Sometimes this is on a sliding scale. For instance, it might be that you get 8% for selling 5,000 copies and between 5,000 and 10,000 you get 10% and for anything above 10,000 copies, you get %12. As an example, if your percentage is 10% on a net profit of $25 a book, you only get $2.50 a book. Most technical writers don't get rich selling technical books. Most publishers are looking for average sales of 500 copies a month. So given $2.50 a book, you just make $1,250 for that month. Of course, if you had an advance of $10,000, this money goes to paying off the advance. So you might not see any real money until about 9 months later. A really hot topic typically sells more than 1,000 or 2,000 copies a month, but this doesn't happen too often. Of course, you might get really lucky, like Todd Lammle did when he came out with his first CCNA book. Rumor is that he sold over 250,000 copies in 18 months...talk about nice royalty checks :-). I got into the writing business by accident. In my first marriage, I was paying a lot of alimony and didn't have any spending money :-(. This is when Cisco's certifications were taking off. Since I taught these classes, and had a minor in English, I thought, hey, what the heck. It will at least give me some money to travel a bit. So my first contract was with the Coriolis Group to write a Cisco Switching book for Cisco's switching exam. Writing isn't for everyone. Constantly I get asked how easy is it, or how can even begin to write a book? Typically, I can get a first proof of the book done in 3-4 months, which is about 600-700 pages. It takes persistence. There are many a day when I don't feel like working at it. When I was writing my first book, I was under a lot of stress--working during the day and then writing 3-4 hours every night. And then writing every weekend. Today, my schedule is much more flexible Cheers! -- Richard A. Deal Visit my home page at http://home.cfl.rr.com/dealgroup/ Author of Cisco PIX Firewalls, CCNA Secrets Revealed!, CCNP Remote Access Exam Prep, CCNP Switching Exam Cram, and CCNP Cisco LAN Switch Configuration Exam Cram Cisco Test Prep author for QuizWare, providing the most comprehensive Cisco exams on the market. Mossburg, Geoff (MAN-Corporate) wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I know a lot of people on this group have been published, some multiple times, and I hope I'm not offending anyone by asking this question: How well does a book publisher pay for the books you write? I'm not expecting any specific figures, but a ballpark figure would be interesting. Thanks! GM -Original Message- From: Richard Deal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 7:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Richard A. Deal Books [7:62027] Mark, Thanks for the kudos. I worked really hard on the book and I know, after having written 6 books, that you can't please everyone. However, of all of the books that I've written, I'm proudest of this book. Yes, there are some errors that slipped in during my last review of the book and when it went to production, which does, unfortunately, happen. But as I discover these, I put them on my web site. As to my MCNS book, which is what the first poster asked, I had finished it, but before it went to print, the publisher (The Coriolis Group) went out of business. Since the MCNS has changed, I've decided not to create a new book. I'm getting a contract this week to write a CCNA book for McGraw-Hill and have been desparately trying to convince them to write a Cisco VPN book--one that covers ALL aspects of VPNS with Cisco products--PIX, router, concentrator, and their software clients. If you have any questions about my PIX book, please don't hesitate in shooting me an email. Thanks for your support! Cheers! Mark Smith wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I think his PIX book is very good. I've not found many errors in it but then maybe I've not looked at it in as much depth as you have. If I have a gripe about it it's for one thing. I use it as a desktop reference
RE: Richard A. Deal Books [7:62027]
Mossburg, Geoff (MAN-Corporate) wrote: I know a lot of people on this group have been published, some multiple times, and I hope I'm not offending anyone by asking this question: How well does a book publisher pay for the books you write? I'm not expecting any specific figures, but a ballpark figure would be interesting. Thanks! They don't pay you to write the book, but they do pay you royalties on the sales. So, how much you make depends on how well the book sells. Regardless, though, it's only a few dollars per book. We don't do it for the money. We do it because we have a lot to say! :-) The publisher gets most of the money made on sales. They incur costs printing the book, of course. They also incur many other costs. Personally, I think that they incur a lot of costs that they shouldn't. They redraw our figures, with the end result looking exactly the same except with numerous errors; they edit the material, with the end result being incomprehensible sentences in some cases; they layout the book pages, wrecking the flow in many cases, and so on. Some publishers, rumor has it, are trying to streamline this and are letting authors work with a WYSIWYG template that requires less messing with by non-technical people. People often complain about the quality of books. Someone said it was because it's easy to get a book deal these days. That's not true. (Maybe it was true during the boom?) The quality problem is due to the processes currently in use for producing books. I think Web-based training materials are much better in many ways. Now, I have done some work for CertificationZone, so I'm a bit biased, but I loved what they said in a recent e-mail about the advantages they have over books (more up-to-date, more accurate because they can more easily fix any errors, more interactive with color graphics, etc.) Priscilla GM -Original Message- From: Richard Deal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 7:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Richard A. Deal Books [7:62027] Mark, Thanks for the kudos. I worked really hard on the book and I know, after having written 6 books, that you can't please everyone. However, of all of the books that I've written, I'm proudest of this book. Yes, there are some errors that slipped in during my last review of the book and when it went to production, which does, unfortunately, happen. But as I discover these, I put them on my web site. As to my MCNS book, which is what the first poster asked, I had finished it, but before it went to print, the publisher (The Coriolis Group) went out of business. Since the MCNS has changed, I've decided not to create a new book. I'm getting a contract this week to write a CCNA book for McGraw-Hill and have been desparately trying to convince them to write a Cisco VPN book--one that covers ALL aspects of VPNS with Cisco products--PIX, router, concentrator, and their software clients. If you have any questions about my PIX book, please don't hesitate in shooting me an email. Thanks for your support! Cheers! Mark Smith wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I think his PIX book is very good. I've not found many errors in it but then maybe I've not looked at it in as much depth as you have. If I have a gripe about it it's for one thing. I use it as a desktop reference. Sometimes I'm looking up how to accomplish X and find out that before I can do that I need to accomplish A, B and/or C. The instructions will simply say That process was covered earlier and won't be repeated here. Now to accomplish X. Earlier? WhereEXACTLY? I've spent more time looking for earlier sometimes than I do accomplishing the task at hand. Earlier in this chapter under the blah heading or this was covered in the chapter on blah blah would be helpful. As far as the info in the book goes I've found stuff in there that I can't find at CCO (it may be there but I can't find it) or anywhere other than maybe from tech in a TAC call. Either that or I've had to look for it in a dozen different places and now it's all together in one book. It's the best book I've found on using a PIX. Beats the Cisco Press book on the PIX by a long shot. Don't know about any others he's written. IMHO. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sam Sneed Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 9:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Richard A. Deal Books [7:62027] His PIX firewall book is OK. It does have a lot of errors in it though. Hope his other books have proofreaders. Joseph R. Taylor wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi Everyone, I'm interested in knowing how good Richard A. Deal's books are. Especially in reference to MCNS. Thank you in advance. Joseph R
Re: Richard A. Deal Books [7:62027]
I think one could say that Richard's books are really a great Deal! Guess you've heard that one before. :-) Anyway, we're glad you're writing them. Thanks. Priscilla Richard Deal wrote: GM, It depends :-). First, you typically get an advance. This varies, but can be between $5,000 and $15,000, depending on the subject (how hot it is) and the previous track record of the author. This money counts against any royalties that you make...which is why they call it an advance. You then get royalties. Royalties are based on net profit of the book. As an example, if a book says it costs $50 on the cover, this is considered gross profit. Net profit is what the publisher gets for the book. The publisher typically marks the book up by about 50%. This can vary depending on whether the book is hard or soft-bound, includes CDs, and its page length, as well as other things. So net profit on a $50 book is about $25. You get a percentage of the $25. Royalties can range anywhere from a very low 5% up to about %18 percent. Sometimes this is on a sliding scale. For instance, it might be that you get 8% for selling 5,000 copies and between 5,000 and 10,000 you get 10% and for anything above 10,000 copies, you get %12. As an example, if your percentage is 10% on a net profit of $25 a book, you only get $2.50 a book. Most technical writers don't get rich selling technical books. Most publishers are looking for average sales of 500 copies a month. So given $2.50 a book, you just make $1,250 for that month. Of course, if you had an advance of $10,000, this money goes to paying off the advance. So you might not see any real money until about 9 months later. A really hot topic typically sells more than 1,000 or 2,000 copies a month, but this doesn't happen too often. Of course, you might get really lucky, like Todd Lammle did when he came out with his first CCNA book. Rumor is that he sold over 250,000 copies in 18 months...talk about nice royalty checks :-). I got into the writing business by accident. In my first marriage, I was paying a lot of alimony and didn't have any spending money :-(. This is when Cisco's certifications were taking off. Since I taught these classes, and had a minor in English, I thought, hey, what the heck. It will at least give me some money to travel a bit. So my first contract was with the Coriolis Group to write a Cisco Switching book for Cisco's switching exam. Writing isn't for everyone. Constantly I get asked how easy is it, or how can even begin to write a book? Typically, I can get a first proof of the book done in 3-4 months, which is about 600-700 pages. It takes persistence. There are many a day when I don't feel like working at it. When I was writing my first book, I was under a lot of stress--working during the day and then writing 3-4 hours every night. And then writing every weekend. Today, my schedule is much more flexible Cheers! -- Richard A. Deal Visit my home page at http://home.cfl.rr.com/dealgroup/ Author of Cisco PIX Firewalls, CCNA Secrets Revealed!, CCNP Remote Access Exam Prep, CCNP Switching Exam Cram, and CCNP Cisco LAN Switch Configuration Exam Cram Cisco Test Prep author for QuizWare, providing the most comprehensive Cisco exams on the market. Mossburg, Geoff (MAN-Corporate) wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I know a lot of people on this group have been published, some multiple times, and I hope I'm not offending anyone by asking this question: How well does a book publisher pay for the books you write? I'm not expecting any specific figures, but a ballpark figure would be interesting. Thanks! GM -Original Message- From: Richard Deal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 7:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Richard A. Deal Books [7:62027] Mark, Thanks for the kudos. I worked really hard on the book and I know, after having written 6 books, that you can't please everyone. However, of all of the books that I've written, I'm proudest of this book. Yes, there are some errors that slipped in during my last review of the book and when it went to production, which does, unfortunately, happen. But as I discover these, I put them on my web site. As to my MCNS book, which is what the first poster asked, I had finished it, but before it went to print, the publisher (The Coriolis Group) went out of business. Since the MCNS has changed, I've decided not to create a new book. I'm getting a contract this week to write a CCNA book for McGraw-Hill and have been desparately trying to convince them to write a Cisco VPN book--one that covers ALL aspects of VPNS with Cisco products--PIX, router, concentrator, and their software clients. If you have any questions about my PIX book, please don't hesitate in shooting me
RE: Richard A. Deal Books [7:62027]
You know, Richard might want to think about writing a book on how to write and sell books! Thank you very much to everyone for your answers; I've always wondered what goes into this, behind the scenes! Geoff Mossburg -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Richard A. Deal Books [7:62027] I think one could say that Richard's books are really a great Deal! Guess you've heard that one before. :-) Anyway, we're glad you're writing them. Thanks. Priscilla Richard Deal wrote: GM, It depends :-). First, you typically get an advance. This varies, but can be between $5,000 and $15,000, depending on the subject (how hot it is) and the previous track record of the author. This money counts against any royalties that you make...which is why they call it an advance. You then get royalties. Royalties are based on net profit of the book. As an example, if a book says it costs $50 on the cover, this is considered gross profit. Net profit is what the publisher gets for the book. The publisher typically marks the book up by about 50%. This can vary depending on whether the book is hard or soft-bound, includes CDs, and its page length, as well as other things. So net profit on a $50 book is about $25. You get a percentage of the $25. Royalties can range anywhere from a very low 5% up to about %18 percent. Sometimes this is on a sliding scale. For instance, it might be that you get 8% for selling 5,000 copies and between 5,000 and 10,000 you get 10% and for anything above 10,000 copies, you get %12. As an example, if your percentage is 10% on a net profit of $25 a book, you only get $2.50 a book. Most technical writers don't get rich selling technical books. Most publishers are looking for average sales of 500 copies a month. So given $2.50 a book, you just make $1,250 for that month. Of course, if you had an advance of $10,000, this money goes to paying off the advance. So you might not see any real money until about 9 months later. A really hot topic typically sells more than 1,000 or 2,000 copies a month, but this doesn't happen too often. Of course, you might get really lucky, like Todd Lammle did when he came out with his first CCNA book. Rumor is that he sold over 250,000 copies in 18 months...talk about nice royalty checks :-). I got into the writing business by accident. In my first marriage, I was paying a lot of alimony and didn't have any spending money :-(. This is when Cisco's certifications were taking off. Since I taught these classes, and had a minor in English, I thought, hey, what the heck. It will at least give me some money to travel a bit. So my first contract was with the Coriolis Group to write a Cisco Switching book for Cisco's switching exam. Writing isn't for everyone. Constantly I get asked how easy is it, or how can even begin to write a book? Typically, I can get a first proof of the book done in 3-4 months, which is about 600-700 pages. It takes persistence. There are many a day when I don't feel like working at it. When I was writing my first book, I was under a lot of stress--working during the day and then writing 3-4 hours every night. And then writing every weekend. Today, my schedule is much more flexible Cheers! -- Richard A. Deal Visit my home page at http://home.cfl.rr.com/dealgroup/ Author of Cisco PIX Firewalls, CCNA Secrets Revealed!, CCNP Remote Access Exam Prep, CCNP Switching Exam Cram, and CCNP Cisco LAN Switch Configuration Exam Cram Cisco Test Prep author for QuizWare, providing the most comprehensive Cisco exams on the market. Mossburg, Geoff (MAN-Corporate) wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I know a lot of people on this group have been published, some multiple times, and I hope I'm not offending anyone by asking this question: How well does a book publisher pay for the books you write? I'm not expecting any specific figures, but a ballpark figure would be interesting. Thanks! GM -Original Message- From: Richard Deal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 7:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Richard A. Deal Books [7:62027] Mark, Thanks for the kudos. I worked really hard on the book and I know, after having written 6 books, that you can't please everyone. However, of all of the books that I've written, I'm proudest of this book. Yes, there are some errors that slipped in during my last review of the book and when it went to production, which does, unfortunately, happen. But as I discover these, I put them on my web site. As to my MCNS book, which is what the first poster asked, I had finished it, but before it went to print, the publisher (The Coriolis Group) went out of business. Since the MCNS has
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Having written one book and a bunch of web content, I can tell you that (IMHO) it's great to be able to keep updating and tinkering around with what you've done. Once something is printed on the page, it can haunt you forever - electronic documents, on the otherhand, can evolve over time to become better and better... I don't know if this is univerally true, but the best thing about writting a book for me was to be able to say I wrote a book... Getting a pat on the back from your mom, being able to send copies to a few old friends, monitoring the comments on Amazon, and getting e-mail from people who said it was useful; those were are the highlights for me. The actual process of writting is always painful, and that big a project can seem to take forever. That said, I'd do it again if I found a topic that interested me enough to spend four or five months buried in it... Just my $0.02 --- Dennis - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:31 PM Subject: RE: Richard A. Deal Books [7:62027] Mossburg, Geoff (MAN-Corporate) wrote: I know a lot of people on this group have been published, some multiple times, and I hope I'm not offending anyone by asking this question: How well does a book publisher pay for the books you write? I'm not expecting any specific figures, but a ballpark figure would be interesting. Thanks! They don't pay you to write the book, but they do pay you royalties on the sales. So, how much you make depends on how well the book sells. Regardless, though, it's only a few dollars per book. We don't do it for the money. We do it because we have a lot to say! :-) The publisher gets most of the money made on sales. They incur costs printing the book, of course. They also incur many other costs. Personally, I think that they incur a lot of costs that they shouldn't. They redraw our figures, with the end result looking exactly the same except with numerous errors; they edit the material, with the end result being incomprehensible sentences in some cases; they layout the book pages, wrecking the flow in many cases, and so on. Some publishers, rumor has it, are trying to streamline this and are letting authors work with a WYSIWYG template that requires less messing with by non-technical people. People often complain about the quality of books. Someone said it was because it's easy to get a book deal these days. That's not true. (Maybe it was true during the boom?) The quality problem is due to the processes currently in use for producing books. I think Web-based training materials are much better in many ways. Now, I have done some work for CertificationZone, so I'm a bit biased, but I loved what they said in a recent e-mail about the advantages they have over books (more up-to-date, more accurate because they can more easily fix any errors, more interactive with color graphics, etc.) Priscilla GM -Original Message- From: Richard Deal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 7:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Richard A. Deal Books [7:62027] Mark, Thanks for the kudos. I worked really hard on the book and I know, after having written 6 books, that you can't please everyone. However, of all of the books that I've written, I'm proudest of this book. Yes, there are some errors that slipped in during my last review of the book and when it went to production, which does, unfortunately, happen. But as I discover these, I put them on my web site. As to my MCNS book, which is what the first poster asked, I had finished it, but before it went to print, the publisher (The Coriolis Group) went out of business. Since the MCNS has changed, I've decided not to create a new book. I'm getting a contract this week to write a CCNA book for McGraw-Hill and have been desparately trying to convince them to write a Cisco VPN book--one that covers ALL aspects of VPNS with Cisco products--PIX, router, concentrator, and their software clients. If you have any questions about my PIX book, please don't hesitate in shooting me an email. Thanks for your support! Cheers! Mark Smith wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I think his PIX book is very good. I've not found many errors in it but then maybe I've not looked at it in as much depth as you have. If I have a gripe about it it's for one thing. I use it as a desktop reference. Sometimes I'm looking up how to accomplish X and find out that before I can do that I need to accomplish A, B and/or C. The instructions will simply say That process was covered earlier and won't be repeated here. Now to accomplish X. Earlier? WhereEXACTLY? I've spent more time looking for earlier sometimes than I do accomplishing the task at hand. Earlier in this chapter under
Richard A. Deal Books [7:62027]
Hi Everyone, I'm interested in knowing how good Richard A. Deal's books are. Especially in reference to MCNS. Thank you in advance. Joseph R. Taylor MCSE, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62027t=62027 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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His PIX firewall book is OK. It does have a lot of errors in it though. Hope his other books have proofreaders. Joseph R. Taylor wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi Everyone, I'm interested in knowing how good Richard A. Deal's books are. Especially in reference to MCNS. Thank you in advance. Joseph R. Taylor MCSE, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62030t=62027 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ask him yourself, he contributes to this group ;-) Rich's books are quite good. He clearly expresses his points and doesn't get lost in non-relevant idioms. Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. Suite 325 Rosemont, Il 60018 www.ins.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joseph R. Taylor Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 9:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Richard A. Deal Books [7:62027] Hi Everyone, I'm interested in knowing how good Richard A. Deal's books are. Especially in reference to MCNS. Thank you in advance. Joseph R. Taylor MCSE, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62034t=62027 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think his PIX book is very good. I've not found many errors in it but then maybe I've not looked at it in as much depth as you have. If I have a gripe about it it's for one thing. I use it as a desktop reference. Sometimes I'm looking up how to accomplish X and find out that before I can do that I need to accomplish A, B and/or C. The instructions will simply say That process was covered earlier and won't be repeated here. Now to accomplish X. Earlier? WhereEXACTLY? I've spent more time looking for earlier sometimes than I do accomplishing the task at hand. Earlier in this chapter under the blah heading or this was covered in the chapter on blah blah would be helpful. As far as the info in the book goes I've found stuff in there that I can't find at CCO (it may be there but I can't find it) or anywhere other than maybe from tech in a TAC call. Either that or I've had to look for it in a dozen different places and now it's all together in one book. It's the best book I've found on using a PIX. Beats the Cisco Press book on the PIX by a long shot. Don't know about any others he's written. IMHO. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sam Sneed Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 9:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Richard A. Deal Books [7:62027] His PIX firewall book is OK. It does have a lot of errors in it though. Hope his other books have proofreaders. Joseph R. Taylor wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi Everyone, I'm interested in knowing how good Richard A. Deal's books are. Especially in reference to MCNS. Thank you in advance. Joseph R. Taylor MCSE, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62036t=62027 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Mark, Thanks for the kudos. I worked really hard on the book and I know, after having written 6 books, that you can't please everyone. However, of all of the books that I've written, I'm proudest of this book. Yes, there are some errors that slipped in during my last review of the book and when it went to production, which does, unfortunately, happen. But as I discover these, I put them on my web site. As to my MCNS book, which is what the first poster asked, I had finished it, but before it went to print, the publisher (The Coriolis Group) went out of business. Since the MCNS has changed, I've decided not to create a new book. I'm getting a contract this week to write a CCNA book for McGraw-Hill and have been desparately trying to convince them to write a Cisco VPN book--one that covers ALL aspects of VPNS with Cisco products--PIX, router, concentrator, and their software clients. If you have any questions about my PIX book, please don't hesitate in shooting me an email. Thanks for your support! Cheers! Mark Smith wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I think his PIX book is very good. I've not found many errors in it but then maybe I've not looked at it in as much depth as you have. If I have a gripe about it it's for one thing. I use it as a desktop reference. Sometimes I'm looking up how to accomplish X and find out that before I can do that I need to accomplish A, B and/or C. The instructions will simply say That process was covered earlier and won't be repeated here. Now to accomplish X. Earlier? WhereEXACTLY? I've spent more time looking for earlier sometimes than I do accomplishing the task at hand. Earlier in this chapter under the blah heading or this was covered in the chapter on blah blah would be helpful. As far as the info in the book goes I've found stuff in there that I can't find at CCO (it may be there but I can't find it) or anywhere other than maybe from tech in a TAC call. Either that or I've had to look for it in a dozen different places and now it's all together in one book. It's the best book I've found on using a PIX. Beats the Cisco Press book on the PIX by a long shot. Don't know about any others he's written. IMHO. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sam Sneed Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 9:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Richard A. Deal Books [7:62027] His PIX firewall book is OK. It does have a lot of errors in it though. Hope his other books have proofreaders. Joseph R. Taylor wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi Everyone, I'm interested in knowing how good Richard A. Deal's books are. Especially in reference to MCNS. Thank you in advance. Joseph R. Taylor MCSE, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62072t=62027 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Richard A. Deal Books [7:62027]
I know a lot of people on this group have been published, some multiple times, and I hope I'm not offending anyone by asking this question: How well does a book publisher pay for the books you write? I'm not expecting any specific figures, but a ballpark figure would be interesting. Thanks! GM -Original Message- From: Richard Deal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 7:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Richard A. Deal Books [7:62027] Mark, Thanks for the kudos. I worked really hard on the book and I know, after having written 6 books, that you can't please everyone. However, of all of the books that I've written, I'm proudest of this book. Yes, there are some errors that slipped in during my last review of the book and when it went to production, which does, unfortunately, happen. But as I discover these, I put them on my web site. As to my MCNS book, which is what the first poster asked, I had finished it, but before it went to print, the publisher (The Coriolis Group) went out of business. Since the MCNS has changed, I've decided not to create a new book. I'm getting a contract this week to write a CCNA book for McGraw-Hill and have been desparately trying to convince them to write a Cisco VPN book--one that covers ALL aspects of VPNS with Cisco products--PIX, router, concentrator, and their software clients. If you have any questions about my PIX book, please don't hesitate in shooting me an email. Thanks for your support! Cheers! Mark Smith wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I think his PIX book is very good. I've not found many errors in it but then maybe I've not looked at it in as much depth as you have. If I have a gripe about it it's for one thing. I use it as a desktop reference. Sometimes I'm looking up how to accomplish X and find out that before I can do that I need to accomplish A, B and/or C. The instructions will simply say That process was covered earlier and won't be repeated here. Now to accomplish X. Earlier? WhereEXACTLY? I've spent more time looking for earlier sometimes than I do accomplishing the task at hand. Earlier in this chapter under the blah heading or this was covered in the chapter on blah blah would be helpful. As far as the info in the book goes I've found stuff in there that I can't find at CCO (it may be there but I can't find it) or anywhere other than maybe from tech in a TAC call. Either that or I've had to look for it in a dozen different places and now it's all together in one book. It's the best book I've found on using a PIX. Beats the Cisco Press book on the PIX by a long shot. Don't know about any others he's written. IMHO. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sam Sneed Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 9:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Richard A. Deal Books [7:62027] His PIX firewall book is OK. It does have a lot of errors in it though. Hope his other books have proofreaders. Joseph R. Taylor wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi Everyone, I'm interested in knowing how good Richard A. Deal's books are. Especially in reference to MCNS. Thank you in advance. Joseph R. Taylor MCSE, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62077t=62027 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
